RE: [nathaniel_branden] Re: Response to NB's Essay
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> From: Free Capitalist [mailto:hash113@...]
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> safe to say that there's a "libertarian front" out there, a foggy
> conglomeration that consists of LP, Cato, IHS, and many more. It
> seems that TOC endorses and is friends with this front, and makes
> the same mistake that Cato and IHS make - not distinguishing the
> small l from big L.
What's the mistake here, and what's wrong with a "foggy conglomeration"? All
the groups you mention do more good than harm, and share a fundamental
respect for human freedom and the right to be left alone. It really does
make the Objectivists look nutty when they anathematize those closest to
them in sympathy and ideology. Reminds me of the scene in Monty Python's
Life of Brian where the People's Front of Judea is condemning all the other
Jewish liberation groups: "The only people we hate more than the Romans are
the Popular Front. Splitters!"
(And, yes, I am making a lot of Monty Python references lately--my daughter
sent me the entire MP record collection. I don't know if Leonard Peikoff's
head would explode if he were forced to repeatedly listen to the Trondheim
Hammer Dance, but it's worth a try.)
From: <n6666b@...> ... and ... on ... I just did, in my response to Peter Smitt, but perhaps with all these postings, it got lost, so here is my response,...
Monica, That many people are confused about Objectivism and about libertarianism hardly needs to be argued. That is why, in my own books, I define precisely ...
... confusion ... One could cut ... Dr. Branden, I don't believe Schwartz was attacking libertarianism with small l, just like he wouldn't attack liberalism....
... To the best of my knowledge, TOC is friendly with small-l libertarian think tanks like Cato, but has never been anything like "buddies" with the LP. Where...
Frankly I always thought Cato was, if not exclusively an LP think tank, at least not condemning of the Party. Same with IHS (Institute of Humane Studies). They...
... Cato abhors the LP. I know; I interned there for 6 months while in college. Ed Crane, in fact, founded Cato because he was completely fed up with the LP....
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... drawing ... well ... a ... You said that this was circa 1963-64, before the LP had been established. In her essay of a much later date (the 70s), "What Can...
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Hash, though I can't (and wouldn't dare presume) to speak for the classical liberal think tanks, I would suspect that they don't "disassociate themselves" from...
... What's the mistake here, and what's wrong with a "foggy conglomeration"? All the groups you mention do more good than harm, and share a fundamental respect...
... In fact, Peter Schwartz was indeed attacking LibertarianISM, not just the L.P. His essay was titled "LibertarianISM: The Perversion of Liberty". He makes...
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... Hi Monica, Shouldn't the common understanding of the term today matter more than its origin? (Most people, after all, have no idea of its origin. And...
... My experience differs greatly, especially when discussing the subject with people who have more than minimal knowledge of politics. When people say that...
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Michael Moeller <moeller_log@...> wrote: [I've snipped many very excellent points he very eloquently made, to get to this one very important conclusion...
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... Since the question was asked, I'd like to affirm this postion, as well. I've been a Libertarian since 1977, and believe it's worth defending. I even ran ...
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