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Did Ayn Rand have a Borderline Personality Disorder?   Message List  
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Re: [nathaniel_branden] Re: Did Ayn Rand have a Borderline Personality Disorder?

Stephanie,
You can't understand if a problem is a "disorder" without reference to a
person's total personality. In Rand's case this is doubly important. She has
been labeled a Fascist by folks who disagree with or do not understand her
ideas. In any case, borderline personalities have a cauldron of anger at bottom,
which has nothing to do with Rand.
I'm experimenting with not being polite with folks who I think are trolls. If
that doesn't meet with your approval, tough luck.
best,
Mike Rael

stephanie_m_silberstein <stephanie_m_silberstein@...> wrote:
Mike R. -

I didn't see any "ignoring Rand's achievements in favor of name
calling". I only saw someone asking if Rand's problem behaviors could
be indicative of Borderline Personality Disorder. Please explain what
I am missing.

Even if your interpretation is correct, that does not justify the tone
of your response. Abusive behavior only fans flames--it very rarely,
if ever, causes anyone to change his/her behavior.

Stephanie

--- In nathaniel_branden@yahoogroups.com, Mike Rael <mikesrael3@...>
wrote:
> Davey is looking right at Rand's achievements and ignoring them
in favor of name-calling. Rand had her problems alright, but that is
not innocent intellectual inquiry.






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Did Ayn Rand have a Borderiner Personality Disorder - on the alternative, strong borderline traits? Why might she have had this: *Some of her actions show a...
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If Ayn Rand is considered borderline based on the characteristics below, then I think a large percentage of the population is borderline. If traits become as...
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Hi:) I think you're just another sicko who is trolling this list. Of course I don't know enough to give an informed opinion about this. I'm just raising this...
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... I am not saying I know enough about you to come to a diagnosis, but something tells me that you don't know enough about this condition to be diagnosis...
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Daveywavey who has a really gayvey nom de guerre asks oh-so-innocently if AR ... I consider myself an expert, or at least a veteran, on this subject, having ...
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Thank you for your answer Mike Lee. I was actually genuinely asking and found your answer informative, especially as you've had a first hand experience with a...
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... I'm something of a bitch. I love to stir the pot. So I'm still personally granting you non-troll status for sentimental reasons. The reason people were...
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"People" weren't abusive - Mike R was. And now you are being. Like a typical abuser, you try to blame the person you are abusing for it. You also admit you are...
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Two other comments: a) Of course you can have a borderline borderlne. To be a BPD under DSMIV required at least 5 out of 9 characteristics. Someone that has 4...
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Hi Davey, I think your response illustrates a problem with diagnostic labels. The DSM-IV is useful in terms of describing a range of behaviors, but there is...
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Stephanie, Davey is looking right at Rand's achievements and ignoring them in favor of name-calling. Rand had her problems alright, but that is not innocent...
Mike Rael
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Mike R. - I didn't see any "ignoring Rand's achievements in favor of name calling". I only saw someone asking if Rand's problem behaviors could be indicative...
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Stephanie, You can't understand if a problem is a "disorder" without reference to a person's total personality. In Rand's case this is doubly important. She...
Mike Rael
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Mike R - I still haven't seen any evidence that Davey is a troll. How Rand has been misaligned in the past is irrelevant to whether his post was sincere or...
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Is there reason to suspect that Daveywavy was raised under a bridge? Let's let him speak for himself. *** (very first message) Borderlines are often attracted...
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I enjoy that post, Mike Lee, same as I do all your other posts:) Actually, amigo, I had you in mind when I decided to give up being calm, collected, and...
Mike Rael
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... I meditate, I flagellate, I masturbate and I cogitate. But despite all my best efforts, I love abusing those I deem abuse-worthy. These days, everyone at...
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I'm not a victim, Mike:) I'm here on the list as one way to grow. I admire the way that you express truths sarcastically. I've repressed my anger for way too...
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... has nothing to do with Rand. how can you maintain this in light of her writing, her videotaped public appearances, and the memoirs by NB and BB? ( please...
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... Whaaa? You're as likely to find borderline borderlines as to find North and South Koreans having a picnic and holding hands in the DMZ. Real borderlines...
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Davey, Of course people with low self-esteem hang out on a site dedicated to that goal. Do you think people hang around the court once the game is won? We are...
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