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Did Ayn Rand have a Borderline Personality Disorder?   Message List  
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RE: [nathaniel_branden] Re: Did Ayn Rand have a Borderline Personality Disorder?

Daveywavey is slicing and dicing:

> a) Of course you can have a borderline borderlne. To be a BPD under
> DSMIV required at least 5 out of 9 characteristics. Someone that has
> 4 isn't BPD, but could be said to have strong borderline traits - as
> opposed to someone that has only 1 or 2.
>
> Everyone has borderline traits. This is a matter of degree. When
> these traits dominate the personality in an inflexible and all
> pervasive manner then that person is likely to be BPD.

Whaaa?

You're as likely to find borderline borderlines as to find North and South
Koreans having a picnic and holding hands in the DMZ. Real borderlines are
as to political systems as North Koreans are to the rest of us. The notion
of borderline borderlines is just one of the many sillinesses that DMS4
inflicts on insurance companies and therefore on the rest of us.

> b) You mention that AR was a DSMIV kaleidoscope. You clearly know
> quite a bit about about psychology - do you think AR had any of the
> Cluster B Personality Disorders? The reason I choose them is that she
> seemed quite an unempathetic person, and Cluster B Personality
> Disorders tend to be "bad people".

Ayn Rand was a really good person. Not one person she ever harmed was locked
in a basement with a ball gag and named "The Gimp." She was no criminal.

I don't remember what Cluster B is. Is that having herpes despite being a
virgin?

Rand was renowned for personal generosity. She was an extremely powerful
personality, and managed to get lots of people to dance to her tune. Her
empathy was legendary, if not her sympathy.

Anyhow, if you were half the man she was, you'd be less worried about what
was wrong with her and more appreciative of what was right.

Mike Lee
Jefferson had slaves. Big effing deal.




Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:49 am

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Did Ayn Rand have a Borderiner Personality Disorder - on the alternative, strong borderline traits? Why might she have had this: *Some of her actions show a...
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If Ayn Rand is considered borderline based on the characteristics below, then I think a large percentage of the population is borderline. If traits become as...
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Jul 10, 2007
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Hi:) I think you're just another sicko who is trolling this list. Of course I don't know enough to give an informed opinion about this. I'm just raising this...
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... I am not saying I know enough about you to come to a diagnosis, but something tells me that you don't know enough about this condition to be diagnosis...
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Daveywavey who has a really gayvey nom de guerre asks oh-so-innocently if AR ... I consider myself an expert, or at least a veteran, on this subject, having ...
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Thank you for your answer Mike Lee. I was actually genuinely asking and found your answer informative, especially as you've had a first hand experience with a...
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... I'm something of a bitch. I love to stir the pot. So I'm still personally granting you non-troll status for sentimental reasons. The reason people were...
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"People" weren't abusive - Mike R was. And now you are being. Like a typical abuser, you try to blame the person you are abusing for it. You also admit you are...
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Two other comments: a) Of course you can have a borderline borderlne. To be a BPD under DSMIV required at least 5 out of 9 characteristics. Someone that has 4...
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Hi Davey, I think your response illustrates a problem with diagnostic labels. The DSM-IV is useful in terms of describing a range of behaviors, but there is...
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Stephanie, Davey is looking right at Rand's achievements and ignoring them in favor of name-calling. Rand had her problems alright, but that is not innocent...
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Mike R. - I didn't see any "ignoring Rand's achievements in favor of name calling". I only saw someone asking if Rand's problem behaviors could be indicative...
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Stephanie, You can't understand if a problem is a "disorder" without reference to a person's total personality. In Rand's case this is doubly important. She...
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Mike R - I still haven't seen any evidence that Davey is a troll. How Rand has been misaligned in the past is irrelevant to whether his post was sincere or...
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Is there reason to suspect that Daveywavy was raised under a bridge? Let's let him speak for himself. *** (very first message) Borderlines are often attracted...
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I enjoy that post, Mike Lee, same as I do all your other posts:) Actually, amigo, I had you in mind when I decided to give up being calm, collected, and...
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... I meditate, I flagellate, I masturbate and I cogitate. But despite all my best efforts, I love abusing those I deem abuse-worthy. These days, everyone at...
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I'm not a victim, Mike:) I'm here on the list as one way to grow. I admire the way that you express truths sarcastically. I've repressed my anger for way too...
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... has nothing to do with Rand. how can you maintain this in light of her writing, her videotaped public appearances, and the memoirs by NB and BB? ( please...
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... Whaaa? You're as likely to find borderline borderlines as to find North and South Koreans having a picnic and holding hands in the DMZ. Real borderlines...
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Davey, Of course people with low self-esteem hang out on a site dedicated to that goal. Do you think people hang around the court once the game is won? We are...
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