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Re: NB quote

Michael,

To me, "being at war with myself" means not being self-accepting. I
fight what I don't want to see or feel. I disown it. From what I
can understand, "being at war with others" also implies a lack of
acceptance. It means that I reject those characteristics in others
that I reject within myself. It also means that I resent any
dependency I have on others.

Many low self-esteem people are locked into the need to gain the
approval of others. The frame of reference for guiding their actions
in not their own understanding of things; it is rather the
preferences of others. This dependency on others, however, comes
with a price: hate. You hate others for the control they have over
you. This hate simmers within you. You are in a constant state of
resentment and this resentment is not always manageable. It crops up
unexpectedly in the shape of bursts of anger, sarcastic remarks and
cynical pronouncements about the nature of relationships. In some
cases, it can even lead to violence. I think this is some of what
Branden means about being at war with others.

What do you think?

blackbellringer






Sat Oct 5, 2002 1:56 pm

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One of the most significant characteristics of self-esteem is that it is a state of one who is at war neither with self nor others. — Nathaniel Branden I...
michael_grierson
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Oct 3, 2002
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Hi Michael - I believe the quote is from _Six Pillars of Self-Esteem_, in the chapter on self-acceptance, but I am not sure. In any case, I think the last two...
Jeffrey Geiger
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Oct 3, 2002
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Hi Jeffrey, I appreciate your comments. I too come from a background of guarding against loneliness, and still find it difficult to accept my need for ...
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Oct 3, 2002
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Hi Michael - ... I used to do this as well--I thought that my loneliness made me "noble"--i.e. I was too good for this world. I feel much more at peace, though...
Jeffrey Geiger
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Oct 4, 2002
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Very perceptive to have notice those two words. I am wondering if NB was pointing the finger towards parents when he said "others" since they are the primary...
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Oct 3, 2002
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Michael. Try this. No "war" is necessary because stopping harm to oneself from without is only being self responsible, thus enhancing further self esteem,...
Kendall A Elsom, Jr.
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Oct 5, 2002
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Michael, To me, "being at war with myself" means not being self-accepting. I fight what I don't want to see or feel. I disown it. From what I can...
blackbellringer
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Oct 5, 2002
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Hi Blackbellringer, I very much agree that everything you've mentioned greatly impedes the achievement of self-esteem. I also agree with you that refusing to...
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Oct 7, 2002
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I would have to agree with that. However, when we stop becoming victims and take control of our own lives it can be amazing how we stop attracting controlling...
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Oct 5, 2002
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It is possible for others to be at war with you, while you are not at war with them. It is a common theme in Rand's books that, when attacked by the...
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Oct 6, 2002
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I have another "NB quote" type of question: Somewhere in his writings he talks about how to best evaluate what a person's level of self-esteem might be and he...
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