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Re: [nathaniel_branden] Re: Free Will


In a message dated 11/2/2004 10:10:50 AM Eastern Standard Time,
philosopherknight@... writes:

MLerner,

I can't follow the thread of this post to know to which post this is
a follow-up to, but I would say that you support the non-free will
position. Clearly you are right, there is no evidence of "free" will
at work in a situation such as the one to which you refer.

Who would imagine that the players involved did anything other than
that which they felt compelled to do? (Well, FWists I guess would
imagine such, but that just shows how absurd the FW position is.)

So you agree that NB, and his partners could not have done other than
they did?




Steve,

I believe in free will therefore I think they acted like fools.


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Tue Nov 2, 2004 11:18 pm

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ML, I thought you said you believe in "free" will. This post must have been misworded. Steve ... least 2 ... most rational...
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In a message dated 11/2/2004 10:10:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, philosopherknight@... writes: MLerner, I can't follow the thread of this post to know to...
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... You've denied this, Mike, although apparently without realizing you'd done so (likewise that "intelligent system" has any meaning.) Maybe start with this...
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Nov 3, 2004
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"Tossed-off by-product" sounds so weighted to me, but yes, mental processes are by-products of processes in the brain. I do not believe the mind exists...
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... It's just as much a "tossed-off by-product" as the music on a gramophone record or a cd. -- Peter Smitt psmitt@... http://www.xs4all.nl/~psmitt...
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