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Re: [nathanfaustmantrials] Re: Does anyone know what this drug is?

I never said it was a bad thing..so you are right. For me, I'm only focused and interested in research testing a treatment that may beable to reverse and cure the disease for my 14 year old daughter, who has been living with the disease for over 11 years now. Forgive me but, I would not be ecstatic if a declared "cure" for type I diabetes was available for only those who were early diagnosed with the disease.
Just to clarify alittle more, I do not believe that  research being done to prevent the disease in those at high risk or to halt the progression of it in people who are early diagnosed should be stopped or is worthless. I am just not interested in it.
Hope that clears things up.
 

rn_hyatt <rn_hyatt@...> wrote:
Sue, that is not a bad thing, right? If there cannot be a cure for
all, a prevention or early intervention would be welcomed for those
who could benefit. After having lived with this monster for almost
17 years, I have doubts of there ever being a cure for those who are
currently afflicted with the disease. But, I would be ecstatic
going to my grave knowing that others would not have to suffer.

--- In nathanfaustmantrials@yahoogroups.com, Sue root
<susan_root@...> wrote:
>
> Don't know the substance but, as with most other studies, it is a
treatment being tested for those early diagnosed.
>
>
> Ellen <ecrain1@...> wrote:
> I pulled the following article from the Children with
Diabetes
> website. I never heard of this study before and was wondering if
> anyone knew what the drug is that they are going to test. It
sounds
> a lot like Dr. Faustman's work in that big pharma is not involved.
I
> thought it was interesting. Any thoughts or information would be
> appreciated.
> Ellen Crain
>
> Brookline diabetes researcher makes FDA history with clinical trial
> By Jessica Scarpati/Staff writer
> Wed Feb 13, 2008, 05:01 PM EST
> Brookline -
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> Brookline - When that 2-foot-thick stack of paperwork from the FDA
> arrived on Dr. Tihamer Orban's desk, he took one look at it and
made
> his decision about developing a drug on his own and leading the
> clinical trial.
>
> "I said, `There's no way I can do this,'" sighed Orban, an
Aspinwall
> Avenue resident and Hungary native.
>
> Luckily for Type 1 diabetes patients around the world, Orban is
not a
> man of his word — at least in this respect.
>
> The 15-year researcher at Boston's Joslin Diabetes Center has
become
> the second person in the history of the federal Food and Drug
> Administration to get approval to test a drug he developed without
> the help, politics or funding of a big pharmaceutical company.
>
> And if the early successes of his maverick vaccine continue, Orban
> said it could pave the way for finding a cure.
>
> "If this drug will do what I hope it would, then we can make a
major
> impact in Type 1 diabetes," said Orban, a pediatrician by training
> who also is an instructor at Harvard Medical School.
>
> Want to get in on it?
> Take learn more about the B-chain insulin study, go to the Joslin
Web
> site or e-mail Dr. Tihamer Orban.
>
> Representatives from the FDA and the American Diabetes Association
> could not be reached for comment.
>
> Type 1 diabetes is an autoimmune disease — meaning the body
> mistakenly attacks its own mechanisms — that gradually kills off
> insulin-producing beta cells in the pancreas. The body needs
insulin
> to regulate blood sugar to survive.
>
> The disease is also known for having strong genetic ties, though
no
> genetic test has been found yet. It is often found in children,
but
> can present itself later in life as well.
>
> "You have a large prediabetic time," Orban said, explaining that
> patients can still have 30 to 40 percent of their insulin-
producing
> cells intact at this time. "You have the disease process, but you
> don't have the clinical disease."
>
> As a result, Orban's work focuses as much on prevention as it does
> intervention.
>
> "The only thing is to do is to stop the auto-aggressive process,"
he
> said. "This sounds very simple, but is very difficult to do."
>
> Often putting in 10- to 12-hour days, Orban said he still finds
the
> work rewarding, even though a cure has eluded him and thousands of
> others before him.
>
> "I'd rather fail 10 times than not try," he said. "If you think
it's
> meaningful, then the time passes by, and you go home and
> think, `Bloody hell, I haven't done half.'"
>
> Trial of few errors, so far
> In his "investigator initiated" drug trial, Orban said he bucked
the
> usual trends of focusing on immunosuppressive drugs that try to
stop
> Type 1 patients' bodies from destroying insulin.
>
> "This is actually conceptually different," Orban said. "This is
> actually a stimulatory agent."
>
> Here's how it works.
> "I came up with the concept that autoimmune Type 1 diabetes is the
> loss of self-tolerance," Orban said. "So, what I thought would be
> most adequate was to remind the immune system of the antigen — of
> what it forgot about."
>
> Orban said the immune system learns to tolerate "self material"
early
> in life, through T cells in the thymus, a lymphatic organ in the
> chest. He called it "thymic education."
>
> "You go to school, you have to learn, `This is mine — don't
bother,
> don't kill,'" he said. "In autoimmunity, this memory is not lost
> completely, but it is mostly forgotten."
>
> How could he remind the immune system to recognize
> insulin? "Vigorous" doses of insulin might work, except that a
> patient would become hypoglycemic and die.
>
> That is, until Orban started to break up insulin's structure —
which
> appears as a ladder, an "A chain" and a "B chain," glued together
by
> chemical bonds.
>
> Orban said he isolated the B chain, which is not metabolized the
same
> way as the whole insulin structure.
>
> "I can give an unlimited amount," he said, which for his trial,
> translated into a one-time shot of 2 milligrams of B-insulin — an
> amount the average adult produces over two years.
>
> Orban said he alone did most of the toxicology studies for his
> nameless injection before presenting it to the FDA. He hired an
> independent toxicology lab to verify the results.
>
> The FDA signed on, and Orban got funding for the human trial from
the
> National Institutes of Health, the federal government's research
> agency.
>
> Having just completed the first phase of a two-year clinical trial
> for the new drug on 12 patients — half of whom received a placebo —

> Orban is beginning to gather 100 to 120 people for the second
phase
> of trials to support his results.
>
> "We looked for … whether we can wake up the immune system," he
> said. "I can tell you we did."
>
> That first group showed no side effects, which was another big
win —
> especially for a drug that could be used among infants and
children.
>
> Though in addition to securing patients, Orban must also find
public
> and private funding. A trial such as this, he said, costs "several
> millions" of dollars.
>
> "We got a clear immune response that I don't think anybody has
really
> achieved," Orban said. "But these are very early, so I wouldn't
> overstate that. We need to study this more."
>
> What do you think? Add your comments at
www.wickedlocal.com/brookline.
>
> Jessica Scarpati can be reached at jscarpat@...
>
>
inthehttp://www.wickedlocal.com/brookline/news/lifestyle/health/x2303
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> 0968
>




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I pulled the following article from the Children with Diabetes website. I never heard of this study before and was wondering if anyone knew what the drug is...
Ellen
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Feb 18, 2008
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Don't know the substance but, as with most other studies, it is a treatment being tested for those early diagnosed. Ellen <ecrain1@...> wrote: I...
Sue root
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Feb 19, 2008
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Sue, that is not a bad thing, right? If there cannot be a cure for all, a prevention or early intervention would be welcomed for those who could benefit....
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Feb 22, 2008
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I never said it was a bad thing..so you are right. For me, I'm only focused and interested in research testing a treatment that may beable to reverse and cure...
Sue root
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Feb 23, 2008
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Following are some questions and answers from the previously posted article. The reply from Paul's note indicates that this drug does halt the immunity...
Ellen
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Feb 22, 2008
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rn_hyatt, Please don't give up hope for curing this disease. I have two children with it, and God willing one day they will be cured of it. Now is the time to...
Ellen
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... If this is the trial, I think it is, then it is described here: http://www.clinicaltrial.gov/ct2/show/NCT00057499 The drug is called "IBC-VSO1" and is...
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