Just a thought here- but without the automation process, and those same 10 people WERE NOT cured, then not only would the money not roll in, but the whole process would be stopped. So I say DO it, but do it with care and get it right! If only one of those ten people were cured, AND it could be shown that the process was different for that one, then there is an avenue for changing the process. but without an automated process, how can you be certain that the tests are being done exactly the same for all?
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To: nathanfaustmantrials@yahoogroups.com
From: stacy_lavery@...
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:22:54 +0000
Subject: [nathanfaustmantrials] Re: This is a joke, right?
I, for one, couldn't disagree more. The human trial, even on just
TEN people would still require multiple blood tests, perhaps even
several a day while they are figuring out dosage and frequency. I
double-checked my data, and doing the blood tests by hand, just ONE
test, takes a day and a half! The automation process makes it take
minutes. We don't want a half-*&#ed job here. We want it thorough,
and right. The money won't roll in, because this is a phase 1
trial. We don't want pharmaceutical money, because they have been
known to squelch cure work because it's more profitable for them and
their stockholders to maintain sick people instead of cure them.
Dr. Faustman HAS been doing work, validating that the same defect
that exists in the NOD mice does also exist in humans. There's also
other labs out there that continue to produce supporting data. Check
out the Bike the Miles for Human Trials website for some more details
about the research. They really have a great site, putting it in
layman's terms, and demonstrate why we are where we are, very well.
They talk about some possible reasons other cures in mice have failed
in human trials (and how THIS one is different), and other labs with
supporting data. Specifically, I found these links very helpful:
http://www.bikethemilesforhumantria ls.com/pointstok now.html
http://www.bikethemilesforhumantria ls.com/research. html
http://www.bikethemilesforhumantria ls.com/research. html
Seriously, we ALL understand feeling frustrated. Every time I have
to calculate and inject a shot into my daughter's tender skin, every
clinic visit I have to attend, every carb I have to count, every sick
day I have to worry, I PRAY for the cure to come, and to come now.
However, I want the REAL and PERMANENT cure to come, not a false
hope. I want them to do this right, and if that requires some
patience on my part, then I will do that.
There are never any guarantees with discovery work such as this. We
all just have to have trust in the process they are doing to get us
to the cure. Having met Dr. Faustman, and discussed all of this at
length with her, I completely trust her. Let's channel all our
frustrated energy into helping this move forward.
Stacy Lavery
Team Maryland Captain, Join Lee Now Campaign
Moderator, Nathan/Faustman Trials Yahoo Group
--- In nathanfaustmantrials@yahoogroups. , "stilltypeone"com
<stilltypeone@...> wrote:
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> Bernard, what would happen if the trials began without the
> equipment, and say 10 people were successfully treated? Then the
> $$$$$ would rush to MGH. The theory would have been proven.
> Again, I think the cart is before the horse on this.
> Prove that BCG can successfully "cure" type I diabetes, then work
> on "automating the process".
> What happens if the automation process is completed, and the
> treatment(s) are unsuccessful? Millions or dollars and more
> importantly the efforts of thousands will have been wasted.
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> --- In nathanfaustmantrials@yahoogroups. , "Bernard Farrell"com
> <bernard.farrell@> wrote:
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> > I know I'd love it all to be available now. But I also know some
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> > what it takes to work with the FDA and others on new stuff. So I'm
> > accepting this will be a long process. And I'll also bet there are
> > obstacles coming we can't even see right now, so I expect some
> future
> > frustrations as well.
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> > I figure the biggest way I can make a difference is by raising
> funds
> > to support the research. What would happen if the MGH group
> received
> > $100 million in support money? I bet they'd start to make HUGE
> progress.
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> > So...why not just pull out those credit cards and donate to the
> > Iacocca Foundation (http://www.iacoccafoundation. )? Lastorg
> weekend we
> > shook some cans at the transfer station for a few hours and raised
> > nearly $100, it all adds to the forward momentum!
> >
> > Bernard
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> > Help me to cure Type 1 diabetes
> > http://bernardfarrell.com/ride. html
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