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Re: This is a joke, right?

Bernard, what would happen if the trials began without the
equipment, and say 10 people were successfully treated? Then the
$$$$$ would rush to MGH. The theory would have been proven.
Again, I think the cart is before the horse on this.
Prove that BCG can successfully "cure" type I diabetes, then work
on "automating the process".
What happens if the automation process is completed, and the
treatment(s) are unsuccessful? Millions or dollars and more
importantly the efforts of thousands will have been wasted.












--- In nathanfaustmantrials@yahoogroups.com, "Bernard Farrell"
<bernard.farrell@...> wrote:
>
> I know I'd love it all to be available now. But I also know some of
> what it takes to work with the FDA and others on new stuff. So I'm
> accepting this will be a long process. And I'll also bet there are
> obstacles coming we can't even see right now, so I expect some
future
> frustrations as well.
>
> I figure the biggest way I can make a difference is by raising
funds
> to support the research. What would happen if the MGH group
received
> $100 million in support money? I bet they'd start to make HUGE
progress.
>
> So...why not just pull out those credit cards and donate to the
> Iacocca Foundation (http://www.iacoccafoundation.org)? Last
weekend we
> shook some cans at the transfer station for a few hours and raised
> nearly $100, it all adds to the forward momentum!
>
> Bernard
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Help me to cure Type 1 diabetes
> http://bernardfarrell.com/ride.html
>










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I know I'd love it all to be available now. But I also know some of what it takes to work with the FDA and others on new stuff. So I'm accepting this will be a...
Bernard Farrell
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Aug 15, 2006
7:56 pm

Bernard, what would happen if the trials began without the equipment, and say 10 people were successfully treated? Then the $$$$$ would rush to MGH. The...
stilltypeone
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Aug 17, 2006
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I, for one, couldn't disagree more. The human trial, even on just TEN people would still require multiple blood tests, perhaps even several a day while they...
stacy_lavery
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Aug 17, 2006
3:35 pm

Stacy, did the manual blood testing for the mice take a day-and- half? How many mice were involved in the initial tests? Just wondering. Thanks in advance....
kinners1
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Aug 21, 2006
12:20 pm

Agree with you 100%. Makes no sense why a very limited trial of human subjects would not be conducted first. Lara stilltypeone <stilltypeone@...> wrote: ...
Lara
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Aug 18, 2006
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I completely agree with your statement. Today people want to know exactly what they are getting for their philanthropic donations. I think waiting for the...
imcimc1
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Aug 18, 2006
1:54 pm

Just a thought here- but without the automation process, and those same 10 people WERE NOT cured, then not only would the money not roll in, but the whole...
Paul Mullens
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Aug 17, 2006
6:30 pm

The equipment is neccessary to automate the process, NOT to verify the process. Again, I am asking can this process be done by hand, similar to what Dr....
R Hyatt
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Aug 19, 2006
12:22 am

I truly believe that Dr. Faustman's research IS going to lead to, if not, BE the cure we are all so desperately waiting for. But anything worthwhile is worth...
deanne kacmar
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Aug 19, 2006
2:47 pm

Deanne, I take offense to your statements "stop all the negativity already" and "Instead of complaining, how about spending that time in serious prayer" 1. My...
stilltypeone
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Aug 21, 2006
12:21 pm

It's not negativity to question the process, the project plan, and where the money is going. It's smart business, particularly if some of us are contributing a...
Lara
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Aug 21, 2006
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OK, so maybe this is a cheesy analogy, but this debate seems to be equivalent to some one saying, "I have a problem, I need to move 10,000 people every day...
Nancy Parr
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Aug 18, 2006
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That's not the analogy. What if we did not know if LA existed? Wouldn't it make sense to send a couple people on foot first before building the plane? I...
kinners1
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THANK YOU LARA!!!!!!!!!!!! ... before ... be ... Did ... before ... move ... next ... just ... even ... I ... take ... thorough, ... been ... defect ... have ...
stilltypeone
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Aug 21, 2006
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The project timeline has not been extended...it has always been estimated at 3 years costing approximately $11 million. The Iacocca Foundation and MGH publicly...
Sue root
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Aug 21, 2006
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Thanks, Sue. I believe different dates were mentioned early in the fundraising process. I realize nothing can start until the researchers receive the grants. ...
Lara
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Aug 21, 2006
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I understand everybody is upset with the 2008 start date. Yes, it stinks and when I think about it I do get depressed. I have type 1 for 19 years and am just...
imcimc1
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Aug 22, 2006
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Well said, I agree 100%.Thank you. From: "imcimc1" <imcimc1@...> Reply-To: nathanfaustmantrials@yahoogroups.com To: nathanfaustmantrials@yahoogroups.com...
deanne kacmar
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To be honest, I am 31 years old, have had Type I since the age of 1 and I do not believe there would be a cure in my life time. Ever since I could remember,...
Blain Getachew
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Aug 24, 2006
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In reading several postings in this group, it has become clear to me that many people here know a lot about Faustman's research, there are many gaps in the...
Joshua Levy
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Aug 22, 2006
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Reposting a message: This message was originally posted by Sue Root yesterday, and approved last night, but somehow was lost. Here it is again: Joshua, Here...
stacy_lavery
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Aug 23, 2006
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Joshua, Here is some additional information for you: Most people at this forum are aware that the NOD mouse is the animal model scientists routinely use to...
susan_root
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Aug 23, 2006
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I have a good friend who works in cancer research and feels Dr. Faustman is the only one "on target." She feels that Dr. Trucco's work with dendritic cells is...
imcimc1
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Aug 23, 2006
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Joshua, I just received several emails from Dr. Trucco and Dr. Giannoukakis. They have yet to begin Phase I trials. Best estimate is safety trials will not...
stilltypeone
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Aug 24, 2006
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This displays an important point about the use of BCG in the Nathan/Faustman trial - there won't need to be any safety trials since it's been around forever,...
stacy_lavery
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Aug 24, 2006
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Stacy, by definition Dr. Faustman's work will need to go through "Phase I" trials. Here are the definitions. Phase I: Researchers test a new drug or treatment...
stilltypeone
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Aug 27, 2006
9:08 pm

... How right you are. I remember reading about several studies involving BCG and type-1 diabetes. Some looked at type-1 diabetes rates amoung people who had...
Joshua Levy
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Aug 27, 2006
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... Dr. Faustman showed regeneration of islet cells with and without using spleen cell transplants. The significance of her research demonstrated that those...
susan_root
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Aug 28, 2006
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Sue, any idea what Dr. Faustman proposes to use as the second compound to make the "cure" permanent? ... using ... demonstrated ... times ... to no ... using ...
stilltypeone
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Aug 30, 2006
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From what I understand, they know what to target and the effect they need to produce. I believe they plan to investigate and use a generic readily available...
Sue root
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