My voice has been going quiet for sometime.  I have been stuck in a "I dont know

what to say" mode in group conversations for a long time.I went to a weekend

course this weekend and found I could hardly get a word out.  I literally was

silent but it wasnt comfortable silence.  I desparately wanted to fill the

silence but simply couldnt.  I'm still not sure what was going on there or what

archetype may have had control of me that weekend.  Gradually as the weekend

progressed this part of me did find the courage to speak without script or story

and since I have come back I have felt more confident and safer within myself.



I read a wonderful poem by Kim Rosen yesterday and she talks about the abuser

and the abused and it made me realise I have been both the abused and...  AND

the abuser to myself and that I need a voice within me to stop that abuser of me

for I have been doing to myself in my head what was done to me.  I can remember

saying I would never do to anyone else what was done to me but it is a

reaslisation to learn that here I am doing it to myself...makes me feel a deeper

understanding of the person whose behaviour was abusive to wards me.



Katherine

Katherine:

Your voice is always welcome here. The voice is my way to listen to my

heart, as well as the heart of others. in my early years I always wanted

to be the wise one that waited until the end with the sage advice, but

it was not my way, and I must be true to my way and learn within the

model I was given. There is lots of literature to keep us silent, "those

that know don't speak, and those that speak don't know. Is it that we

are to give the grace of our knowing to Creator and only speak when we

have learning to do? I like this place because even when we share the

answers that have worked for us we are asking again, does this still

work for me. Did it ever work for me? The answers come from others

sharing their experience, and co creating our learning and the teachings

that arise from within. For me the answers come as I am guided by my

heart, and I see the words on the page, I become instinctively aware

what is right, as my heart and soul speak to me of the answers that

Creator is giving me. The Lord helps those that help them self. We are

the self for each other, we are the ones that take each other out of our

heads and into our hearts; into our castle.



When the student is ready the teacher will come. We are the teacher and

the student. The answers are in us, because Creator is speaking to and

through us every moment of every day. It is up to us to listen, not to

our brain, but to our heart , soul and feelings.

In Peace and Healing

Glenn

iveeatenatoe wrote:

>

>

> My voice has been going quiet for sometime. I have been stuck in a "I

> dont know what to say" mode in group conversations for a long time.I

> went to a weekend course this weekend and found I could hardly get a

> word out. I literally was silent but it wasnt comfortable silence. I

> desparately wanted to fill the silence but simply couldnt. I'm still

> not sure what was going on there or what archetype may have had

> control of me that weekend. Gradually as the weekend progressed this

> part of me did find the courage to speak without script or story and

> since I have come back I have felt more confident and safer within

> myself.

>

> I read a wonderful poem by Kim Rosen yesterday and she talks about the

> abuser and the abused and it made me realise I have been both the

> abused and... AND the abuser to myself and that I need a voice within

> me to stop that abuser of me for I have been doing to myself in my

> head what was done to me. I can remember saying I would never do to

> anyone else what was done to me but it is a reaslisation to learn that

> here I am doing it to myself...makes me feel a deeper understanding of

> the person whose behaviour was abusive to wards me.

>

> Katherine

>

>

Dear Katherine,



Perhaps that quiet part of yourself is what St. Teresa would call the

cocooning phase?  I'm hardly ever quiet but have been much, much quieter

this last 1.5 yrs.  Now with my children in Spain, I'm quieter than

ever!!!!



My exception was today. I had coffee with Mary, a woman who is new to the

area. We melded, fused and flowed like long lost sisters.  It is the very

first COMMUNITY I've felt since moving here!   Well, besides Scot and his

gigantic family, 10 siblings. YIPPEE, it is a beginning!!!!!



We are thinking about starting a group in the area. One idea that came up

was a group around Forgiveness, Lord knows I need it.  Has anyone got any

good ideas as to how it could be structured??  It would be VERY IMPORTANT

not to go into Woundology!!



BLESSINGS of GRACE,

Gina







On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:04 AM, iveeatenatoe <toveclan@...>wrote:



>

>

> My voice has been going quiet for sometime. I have been stuck in a "I dont

> know what to say" mode in group conversations for a long time.I went to a

> weekend course this weekend and found I could hardly get a word out. I

> literally was silent but it wasnt comfortable silence. I desparately wanted

> to fill the silence but simply couldnt. I'm still not sure what was going on

> there or what archetype may have had control of me that weekend. Gradually

> as the weekend progressed this part of me did find the courage to speak

> without script or story and since I have come back I have felt more

> confident and safer within myself.

>

> I read a wonderful poem by Kim Rosen yesterday and she talks about the

> abuser and the abused and it made me realise I have been both the abused

> and... AND the abuser to myself and that I need a voice within me to stop

> that abuser of me for I have been doing to myself in my head what was done

> to me. I can remember saying I would never do to anyone else what was done

> to me but it is a reaslisation to learn that here I am doing it to

> myself...makes me feel a deeper understanding of the person whose behaviour

> was abusive to wards me.

>

> Katherine

>

>

>







--

Gina

I've clicked for peace! Have you?

www.tenmillionclicksforpeace.org/?sid=42952c450WJu5466kW8095556&s=1





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hello Gina:

I have been taught the native way of the healing circle We are taught to

use a pouch of tobacco or an eagle feather as the talking stick, but a

rock or a flower or anything organic will do just fine. One person

starts with a prayer and a thought around forgiveness and passes the

feather to the left in a clockwise direction. The starting space could

be the oldest person (elder) the person in the east direction or anyone

that wants to start, but the only one who talks is the one with the

feather. Many time I have known exactly what I will say until the

feather touches my hand then all bets are off because my brain closes

down and my heart opens up as if given some truth serum . there should

be a bit of an alter with a candle and some water and any object that

holds great meaning for you. The group might want to write forgiveness

letters and bring them with them to place on the alter. At the end of

the circle the letters might be burned. We always have a small feast,

and say grace to bring the spirit of the circle into our bodies and

close the ceremony with proper respect and thanks to Creator and the

helpers. I hope this helps



In Peace and Healing

Glenn



Gina wrote:

>

>

> Dear Katherine,

>

> Perhaps that quiet part of yourself is what St. Teresa would call the

> cocooning phase? I'm hardly ever quiet but have been much, much quieter

> this last 1.5 yrs. Now with my children in Spain, I'm quieter than

> ever!!!!

>

> My exception was today. I had coffee with Mary, a woman who is new to the

> area. We melded, fused and flowed like long lost sisters. It is the very

> first COMMUNITY I've felt since moving here! Well, besides Scot and his

> gigantic family, 10 siblings. YIPPEE, it is a beginning!!! !!

>

> We are thinking about starting a group in the area. One idea that came up

> was a group around Forgiveness, Lord knows I need it. Has anyone got any

> good ideas as to how it could be structured?? It would be VERY IMPORTANT

> not to go into Woundology!!

>

> BLESSINGS of GRACE,

> Gina

>

> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:04 AM, iveeatenatoe <toveclan@nildram. co.uk

> <mailto:toveclan%40nildram.co.uk>>wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > My voice has been going quiet for sometime. I have been stuck in a

> "I dont

> > know what to say" mode in group conversations for a long time.I went

> to a

> > weekend course this weekend and found I could hardly get a word out. I

> > literally was silent but it wasnt comfortable silence. I desparately

> wanted

> > to fill the silence but simply couldnt. I'm still not sure what was

> going on

> > there or what archetype may have had control of me that weekend.

> Gradually

> > as the weekend progressed this part of me did find the courage to speak

> > without script or story and since I have come back I have felt more

> > confident and safer within myself.

> >

> > I read a wonderful poem by Kim Rosen yesterday and she talks about the

> > abuser and the abused and it made me realise I have been both the abused

> > and... AND the abuser to myself and that I need a voice within me to

> stop

> > that abuser of me for I have been doing to myself in my head what

> was done

> > to me. I can remember saying I would never do to anyone else what

> was done

> > to me but it is a reaslisation to learn that here I am doing it to

> > myself...makes me feel a deeper understanding of the person whose

> behaviour

> > was abusive to wards me.

> >

> > Katherine

> >

> >

> >

>

> --

> Gina

> I've clicked for peace! Have you?

> www.tenmillionclick sforpeace. org/?sid= 42952c450WJu5466 kW8095556& s=1

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

>

Glenn,



I am honored to receive your words.  Since I'm not supposed to have eagle

feathers, we could use something else.  Funny, the woman with whom I might

do this ceremony & I met for the first time today on the same street my

Elders used to live on!!  Spirit Speaks.  ; )





Mitakuye oyasin,

Gina



On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Glenn Wainman <gbwainman@...> wrote:



>

>

> Hello Gina:

> I have been taught the native way of the healing circle We are taught to

> use a pouch of tobacco or an eagle feather as the talking stick, but a

> rock or a flower or anything organic will do just fine. One person

> starts with a prayer and a thought around forgiveness and passes the

> feather to the left in a clockwise direction. The starting space could

> be the oldest person (elder) the person in the east direction or anyone

> that wants to start, but the only one who talks is the one with the

> feather. Many time I have known exactly what I will say until the

> feather touches my hand then all bets are off because my brain closes

> down and my heart opens up as if given some truth serum . there should

> be a bit of an alter with a candle and some water and any object that

> holds great meaning for you. The group might want to write forgiveness

> letters and bring them with them to place on the alter. At the end of

> the circle the letters might be burned. We always have a small feast,

> and say grace to bring the spirit of the circle into our bodies and

> close the ceremony with proper respect and thanks to Creator and the

> helpers. I hope this helps

>

>

> In Peace and Healing

> Glenn

>

> Gina wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Katherine,

> >

> > Perhaps that quiet part of yourself is what St. Teresa would call the

> > cocooning phase? I'm hardly ever quiet but have been much, much quieter

> > this last 1.5 yrs. Now with my children in Spain, I'm quieter than

> > ever!!!!

> >

> > My exception was today. I had coffee with Mary, a woman who is new to the

> > area. We melded, fused and flowed like long lost sisters. It is the very

> > first COMMUNITY I've felt since moving here! Well, besides Scot and his

> > gigantic family, 10 siblings. YIPPEE, it is a beginning!!! !!

> >

> > We are thinking about starting a group in the area. One idea that came up

> > was a group around Forgiveness, Lord knows I need it. Has anyone got any

> > good ideas as to how it could be structured?? It would be VERY IMPORTANT

> > not to go into Woundology!!

> >

> > BLESSINGS of GRACE,

> > Gina

> >

> > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:04 AM, iveeatenatoe <toveclan@nildram. co.uk

> > <mailto:toveclan%40nildram.co.uk <toveclan%2540nildram.co.uk>>>wrote:

>

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > My voice has been going quiet for sometime. I have been stuck in a

> > "I dont

> > > know what to say" mode in group conversations for a long time.I went

> > to a

> > > weekend course this weekend and found I could hardly get a word out. I

> > > literally was silent but it wasnt comfortable silence. I desparately

> > wanted

> > > to fill the silence but simply couldnt. I'm still not sure what was

> > going on

> > > there or what archetype may have had control of me that weekend.

> > Gradually

> > > as the weekend progressed this part of me did find the courage to speak

> > > without script or story and since I have come back I have felt more

> > > confident and safer within myself.

> > >

> > > I read a wonderful poem by Kim Rosen yesterday and she talks about the

> > > abuser and the abused and it made me realise I have been both the

> abused

> > > and... AND the abuser to myself and that I need a voice within me to

> > stop

> > > that abuser of me for I have been doing to myself in my head what

> > was done

> > > to me. I can remember saying I would never do to anyone else what

> > was done

> > > to me but it is a reaslisation to learn that here I am doing it to

> > > myself...makes me feel a deeper understanding of the person whose

> > behaviour

> > > was abusive to wards me.

> > >

> > > Katherine

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> > --

> > Gina

> > I've clicked for peace! Have you?

> > www.tenmillionclick sforpeace. org/?sid= 42952c450WJu5466 kW8095556& s=1

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

> >

>

>







--

Gina

I've clicked for peace! Have you?

www.tenmillionclicksforpeace.org/?sid=42952c450WJu5466kW8095556&s=1





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Gina



I seemed to have got the quietest quiet a could get that weekend and it was

enough I think to push my heart voice to come forward.  I spoke words which

arose in the heart instead of speaking my script or stories and it was a new

experience for me.  Since doing that I feel more confidence within myself and

feel more centred in my heart.  Its a good feeling.  Sometimes the tensions of

discomfort needs to get to its worst with me before I break through the wall.



I cant find my book to check what the cocoon stage is...



Katherine



--- In mysslist@yahoogroups.com, Gina <eternallyoptimystic@...> wrote:

>

> Dear Katherine,

>

> Perhaps that quiet part of yourself is what St. Teresa would call the

> cocooning phase?  I'm hardly ever quiet but have been much, much quieter

> this last 1.5 yrs.  Now with my children in Spain, I'm quieter than

> ever!!!!

>

> My exception was today. I had coffee with Mary, a woman who is new to the

> area. We melded, fused and flowed like long lost sisters.  It is the very

> first COMMUNITY I've felt since moving here!   Well, besides Scot and his

> gigantic family, 10 siblings. YIPPEE, it is a beginning!!!!!

>

> We are thinking about starting a group in the area. One idea that came up

> was a group around Forgiveness, Lord knows I need it.  Has anyone got any

> good ideas as to how it could be structured??  It would be VERY IMPORTANT

> not to go into Woundology!!

>

> BLESSINGS of GRACE,

> Gina

>

>

>

> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:04 AM, iveeatenatoe <toveclan@...>wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > My voice has been going quiet for sometime. I have been stuck in a "I dont

> > know what to say" mode in group conversations for a long time.I went to a

> > weekend course this weekend and found I could hardly get a word out. I

> > literally was silent but it wasnt comfortable silence. I desparately wanted

> > to fill the silence but simply couldnt. I'm still not sure what was going on

> > there or what archetype may have had control of me that weekend. Gradually

> > as the weekend progressed this part of me did find the courage to speak

> > without script or story and since I have come back I have felt more

> > confident and safer within myself.

> >

> > I read a wonderful poem by Kim Rosen yesterday and she talks about the

> > abuser and the abused and it made me realise I have been both the abused

> > and... AND the abuser to myself and that I need a voice within me to stop

> > that abuser of me for I have been doing to myself in my head what was done

> > to me. I can remember saying I would never do to anyone else what was done

> > to me but it is a reaslisation to learn that here I am doing it to

> > myself...makes me feel a deeper understanding of the person whose behaviour

> > was abusive to wards me.

> >

> > Katherine

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Gina

> I've clicked for peace! Have you?

> www.tenmillionclicksforpeace.org/?sid=42952c450WJu5466kW8095556&s=1

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

Katherine,



At this moment my book is in my room and my BF is sleeping having worked a

12 hr. shift last night but... basically the cocoon phase is a VERY INTENSE

going deep within phase which is accompanied by a deep external silence.

I've been there for nearly 2 years.  I come out and get chatty for a few

days and then go back.

Just know, on the other side, is the BUTTERFLY......she cries with

longing!!!!!!!!!!!!



BLESSINGS of GRACE for u ALL,

Gina



On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 7:14 AM, iveeatenatoe <toveclan@...> wrote:



>

>

> Gina

>

> I seemed to have got the quietest quiet a could get that weekend and it was

> enough I think to push my heart voice to come forward. I spoke words which

> arose in the heart instead of speaking my script or stories and it was a new

> experience for me. Since doing that I feel more confidence within myself and

> feel more centred in my heart. Its a good feeling. Sometimes the tensions of

> discomfort needs to get to its worst with me before I break through the

> wall.

>

> I cant find my book to check what the cocoon stage is...

>

> Katherine

>

>

> --- In mysslist@yahoogroups.com <mysslist%40yahoogroups.com>, Gina

> <eternallyoptimystic@...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Katherine,

> >

> > Perhaps that quiet part of yourself is what St. Teresa would call the

> > cocooning phase? I'm hardly ever quiet but have been much, much quieter

> > this last 1.5 yrs. Now with my children in Spain, I'm quieter than

> > ever!!!!

> >

> > My exception was today. I had coffee with Mary, a woman who is new to the

> > area. We melded, fused and flowed like long lost sisters. It is the very

> > first COMMUNITY I've felt since moving here! Well, besides Scot and his

> > gigantic family, 10 siblings. YIPPEE, it is a beginning!!!!!

> >

> > We are thinking about starting a group in the area. One idea that came up

> > was a group around Forgiveness, Lord knows I need it. Has anyone got any

> > good ideas as to how it could be structured?? It would be VERY IMPORTANT

> > not to go into Woundology!!

> >

> > BLESSINGS of GRACE,

> > Gina

> >

> >

> >

> > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:04 AM, iveeatenatoe <toveclan@...>wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > My voice has been going quiet for sometime. I have been stuck in a "I

> dont

> > > know what to say" mode in group conversations for a long time.I went to

> a

> > > weekend course this weekend and found I could hardly get a word out. I

> > > literally was silent but it wasnt comfortable silence. I desparately

> wanted

> > > to fill the silence but simply couldnt. I'm still not sure what was

> going on

> > > there or what archetype may have had control of me that weekend.

> Gradually

> > > as the weekend progressed this part of me did find the courage to speak

> > > without script or story and since I have come back I have felt more

> > > confident and safer within myself.

> > >

> > > I read a wonderful poem by Kim Rosen yesterday and she talks about the

> > > abuser and the abused and it made me realise I have been both the

> abused

> > > and... AND the abuser to myself and that I need a voice within me to

> stop

> > > that abuser of me for I have been doing to myself in my head what was

> done

> > > to me. I can remember saying I would never do to anyone else what was

> done

> > > to me but it is a reaslisation to learn that here I am doing it to

> > > myself...makes me feel a deeper understanding of the person whose

> behaviour

> > > was abusive to wards me.

> > >

> > > Katherine

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> > Gina

> > I've clicked for peace! Have you?

> > www.tenmillionclicksforpeace.org/?sid=42952c450WJu5466kW8095556&s=1

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

>

>

>







--

Gina

I've clicked for peace! Have you?

www.tenmillionclicksforpeace.org/?sid=42952c450WJu5466kW8095556&s=1





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I like the thought that to become a butterfly you have to stop being a

caterpiller to become the cocoon and emerge when you are ready, on a bright

sunny day so that your wings will dry and unfold in their own time. I think it

is about letting Creator take the time to make us our most perfect self in

transformation.



In Peace and Healing

Glenn



----- Original Message -----

From: Gina <eternallyoptimystic@...>

Date: Friday, July 3, 2009 12:09 pm

Subject: Re: CM The quiet one

To: mysslist@yahoogroups.com



> Katherine,

>

> At this moment my book is in my room and my BF is sleeping

> having worked a

> 12 hr. shift last night but... basically the cocoon phase is a

> VERY INTENSE

> going deep within phase which is accompanied by a deep external

> silence.I've been there for nearly 2 years.  I come out and

> get chatty for a few

> days and then go back.

> Just know, on the other side, is the BUTTERFLY......she cries with

> longing!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> BLESSINGS of GRACE for u ALL,

> Gina

>

> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 7:14 AM, iveeatenatoe

> <toveclan@...> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Gina

> >

> > I seemed to have got the quietest quiet a could get that

> weekend and it was

> > enough I think to push my heart voice to come forward. I spoke

> words which

> > arose in the heart instead of speaking my script or stories

> and it was a new

> > experience for me. Since doing that I feel more confidence

> within myself and

> > feel more centred in my heart. Its a good feeling. Sometimes

> the tensions of

> > discomfort needs to get to its worst with me before I break

> through the

> > wall.

> >

> > I cant find my book to check what the cocoon stage is...

> >

> > Katherine

> >

> >

> > --- In mysslist@yahoogroups.com

> <mysslist%40yahoogroups.com>, Gina

> > <eternallyoptimystic@...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Katherine,

> > >

> > > Perhaps that quiet part of yourself is what St. Teresa would

> call the

> > > cocooning phase? I'm hardly ever quiet but have been much,

> much quieter

> > > this last 1.5 yrs. Now with my children in Spain, I'm

> quieter than

> > > ever!!!!

> > >

> > > My exception was today. I had coffee with Mary, a woman who

> is new to the

> > > area. We melded, fused and flowed like long lost sisters. It

> is the very

> > > first COMMUNITY I've felt since moving here! Well, besides

> Scot and his

> > > gigantic family, 10 siblings. YIPPEE, it is a beginning!!!!!

> > >

> > > We are thinking about starting a group in the area. One idea

> that came up

> > > was a group around Forgiveness, Lord knows I need it. Has

> anyone got any

> > > good ideas as to how it could be structured?? It would be

> VERY IMPORTANT

> > > not to go into Woundology!!

> > >

> > > BLESSINGS of GRACE,

> > > Gina

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:04 AM, iveeatenatoe

> <toveclan@...>wrote:> >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > My voice has been going quiet for sometime. I have been

> stuck in a "I

> > dont

> > > > know what to say" mode in group conversations for a long

> time.I went to

> > a

> > > > weekend course this weekend and found I could hardly get a

> word out. I

> > > > literally was silent but it wasnt comfortable silence. I

> desparately> wanted

> > > > to fill the silence but simply couldnt. I'm still not sure

> what was

> > going on

> > > > there or what archetype may have had control of me that weekend.

> > Gradually

> > > > as the weekend progressed this part of me did find the

> courage to speak

> > > > without script or story and since I have come back I have

> felt more

> > > > confident and safer within myself.

> > > >

> > > > I read a wonderful poem by Kim Rosen yesterday and she

> talks about the

> > > > abuser and the abused and it made me realise I have been

> both the

> > abused

> > > > and... AND the abuser to myself and that I need a voice

> within me to

> > stop

> > > > that abuser of me for I have been doing to myself in my

> head what was

> > done

> > > > to me. I can remember saying I would never do to anyone

> else what was

> > done

> > > > to me but it is a reaslisation to learn that here I am

> doing it to

> > > > myself...makes me feel a deeper understanding of the

> person whose

> > behaviour

> > > > was abusive to wards me.

> > > >

> > > > Katherine

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > Gina

> > > I've clicked for peace! Have you?

> > >

> www.tenmillionclicksforpeace.org/?sid=42952c450WJu5466kW8095556&s=1> >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Gina

> I've clicked for peace! Have you?

> www.tenmillionclicksforpeace.org/?sid=42952c450WJu5466kW8095556&s=1

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Thanks Glenn.  Ican use your anaology.  This is what is going on in me at the

moment. I am "sorting" between which is authentic me and what needs to be let go

of.  ie what is caterpiller and what is butterfly.  so when a thought comes up I

am conscoiusly deciding if it is authentic me or old false me or as i like from

your analogy is it caterpillar or butterfly.  This butterfly desparately wanbts

to fly and am stuggling out of my crysailis and filling up my wings with my own

life blood.



Katherine







--- In mysslist@yahoogroups.com, GLENN WAINMAN <gbwainman@...> wrote:

>

> I like the thought that to become a butterfly you have to stop being a

caterpiller to become the cocoon and emerge when you are ready, on a bright

sunny day so that your wings will dry and unfold in their own time. I think it

is about letting Creator take the time to make us our most perfect self in

transformation.

>

> In Peace and Healing

> Glenn

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Gina <eternallyoptimystic@...>

> Date: Friday, July 3, 2009 12:09 pm

> Subject: Re: CM The quiet one

> To: mysslist@yahoogroups.com

>

> > Katherine,

> >

> > At this moment my book is in my room and my BF is sleeping

> > having worked a

> > 12 hr. shift last night but... basically the cocoon phase is a

> > VERY INTENSE

> > going deep within phase which is accompanied by a deep external

> > silence.I've been there for nearly 2 years.  I come out and

> > get chatty for a few

> > days and then go back.

> > Just know, on the other side, is the BUTTERFLY......she cries with

> > longing!!!!!!!!!!!!

> >

> > BLESSINGS of GRACE for u ALL,

> > Gina

> >

> > On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 7:14 AM, iveeatenatoe

> > <toveclan@...> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Gina

> > >

> > > I seemed to have got the quietest quiet a could get that

> > weekend and it was

> > > enough I think to push my heart voice to come forward. I spoke

> > words which

> > > arose in the heart instead of speaking my script or stories

> > and it was a new

> > > experience for me. Since doing that I feel more confidence

> > within myself and

> > > feel more centred in my heart. Its a good feeling. Sometimes

> > the tensions of

> > > discomfort needs to get to its worst with me before I break

> > through the

> > > wall.

> > >

> > > I cant find my book to check what the cocoon stage is...

> > >

> > > Katherine

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In mysslist@yahoogroups.com

> > <mysslist%40yahoogroups.com>, Gina

> > > <eternallyoptimystic@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Katherine,

> > > >

> > > > Perhaps that quiet part of yourself is what St. Teresa would

> > call the

> > > > cocooning phase? I'm hardly ever quiet but have been much,

> > much quieter

> > > > this last 1.5 yrs. Now with my children in Spain, I'm

> > quieter than

> > > > ever!!!!

> > > >

> > > > My exception was today. I had coffee with Mary, a woman who

> > is new to the

> > > > area. We melded, fused and flowed like long lost sisters. It

> > is the very

> > > > first COMMUNITY I've felt since moving here! Well, besides

> > Scot and his

> > > > gigantic family, 10 siblings. YIPPEE, it is a beginning!!!!!

> > > >

> > > > We are thinking about starting a group in the area. One idea

> > that came up

> > > > was a group around Forgiveness, Lord knows I need it. Has

> > anyone got any

> > > > good ideas as to how it could be structured?? It would be

> > VERY IMPORTANT

> > > > not to go into Woundology!!

> > > >

> > > > BLESSINGS of GRACE,

> > > > Gina

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:04 AM, iveeatenatoe

> > <toveclan@>wrote:> >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > My voice has been going quiet for sometime. I have been

> > stuck in a "I

> > > dont

> > > > > know what to say" mode in group conversations for a long

> > time.I went to

> > > a

> > > > > weekend course this weekend and found I could hardly get a

> > word out. I

> > > > > literally was silent but it wasnt comfortable silence. I

> > desparately> wanted

> > > > > to fill the silence but simply couldnt. I'm still not sure

> > what was

> > > going on

> > > > > there or what archetype may have had control of me that weekend.

> > > Gradually

> > > > > as the weekend progressed this part of me did find the

> > courage to speak

> > > > > without script or story and since I have come back I have

> > felt more

> > > > > confident and safer within myself.

> > > > >

> > > > > I read a wonderful poem by Kim Rosen yesterday and she

> > talks about the

> > > > > abuser and the abused and it made me realise I have been

> > both the

> > > abused

> > > > > and... AND the abuser to myself and that I need a voice

> > within me to

> > > stop

> > > > > that abuser of me for I have been doing to myself in my

> > head what was

> > > done

> > > > > to me. I can remember saying I would never do to anyone

> > else what was

> > > done

> > > > > to me but it is a reaslisation to learn that here I am

> > doing it to

> > > > > myself...makes me feel a deeper understanding of the

> > person whose

> > > behaviour

> > > > > was abusive to wards me.

> > > > >

> > > > > Katherine

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --

> > > > Gina

> > > > I've clicked for peace! Have you?

> > > >

> > www.tenmillionclicksforpeace.org/?sid=42952c450WJu5466kW8095556&s=1> >

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> > Gina

> > I've clicked for peace! Have you?

> > www.tenmillionclicksforpeace.org/?sid=42952c450WJu5466kW8095556&s=1

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

> >

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

Some of you might know that I recently moved and am delighting in high speed

Internet for the first time.  Addressing this ? of who we are, I can not

recommend highly enough the Jill Bolte Taylor youtube at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyyjU8fzEYU

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyyjU8fzEYU>Seriously, I cry tears of bliss

every time I see it!!  Talk about cry-sail-is Interesting misspelling

Katherine! <giggle>  Perhaps all thoughts are old stuff.  I especially like

the part where she says "there was total silence..."



In Joy,

Gina



On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 11:34 AM, iveeatenatoe <toveclan@...>wrote:



>

>

> Thanks Glenn. Ican use your anaology. This is what is going on in me at the

> moment. I am "sorting" between which is authentic me and what needs to be

> let go of. ie what is caterpiller and what is butterfly. so when a thought

> comes up I am conscoiusly deciding if it is authentic me or old false me or

> as i like from your analogy is it caterpillar or butterfly. This butterfly

> desparately wanbts to fly and am stuggling out of my crysailis and filling

> up my wings with my own life blood.

>

> Katherine

>

>

> --- In mysslist@yahoogroups.com <mysslist%40yahoogroups.com>, GLENN

> WAINMAN <gbwainman@...> wrote:

> >

> > I like the thought that to become a butterfly you have to stop being a

> caterpiller to become the cocoon and emerge when you are ready, on a bright

> sunny day so that your wings will dry and unfold in their own time. I think

> it is about letting Creator take the time to make us our most perfect self

> in transformation.

> >

> > In Peace and Healing

> > Glenn

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: Gina <eternallyoptimystic@...>

> > Date: Friday, July 3, 2009 12:09 pm

> > Subject: Re: CM The quiet one

> > To: mysslist@yahoogroups.com <mysslist%40yahoogroups.com>

> >

> > > Katherine,

> > >

> > > At this moment my book is in my room and my BF is sleeping

> > > having worked a

> > > 12 hr. shift last night but... basically the cocoon phase is a

> > > VERY INTENSE

> > > going deep within phase which is accompanied by a deep external

> > > silence.I've been there for nearly 2 years. I come out and

> > > get chatty for a few

> > > days and then go back.

> > > Just know, on the other side, is the BUTTERFLY......she cries with

> > > longing!!!!!!!!!!!!

> > >

> > > BLESSINGS of GRACE for u ALL,

> > > Gina

> > >

> > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 7:14 AM, iveeatenatoe

> > > <toveclan@...> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Gina

> > > >

> > > > I seemed to have got the quietest quiet a could get that

> > > weekend and it was

> > > > enough I think to push my heart voice to come forward. I spoke

> > > words which

> > > > arose in the heart instead of speaking my script or stories

> > > and it was a new

> > > > experience for me. Since doing that I feel more confidence

> > > within myself and

> > > > feel more centred in my heart. Its a good feeling. Sometimes

> > > the tensions of

> > > > discomfort needs to get to its worst with me before I break

> > > through the

> > > > wall.

> > > >

> > > > I cant find my book to check what the cocoon stage is...

> > > >

> > > > Katherine

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In mysslist@yahoogroups.com <mysslist%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > <mysslist%40yahoogroups.com>, Gina

> > > > <eternallyoptimystic@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Katherine,

> > > > >

> > > > > Perhaps that quiet part of yourself is what St. Teresa would

> > > call the

> > > > > cocooning phase? I'm hardly ever quiet but have been much,

> > > much quieter

> > > > > this last 1.5 yrs. Now with my children in Spain, I'm

> > > quieter than

> > > > > ever!!!!

> > > > >

> > > > > My exception was today. I had coffee with Mary, a woman who

> > > is new to the

> > > > > area. We melded, fused and flowed like long lost sisters. It

> > > is the very

> > > > > first COMMUNITY I've felt since moving here! Well, besides

> > > Scot and his

> > > > > gigantic family, 10 siblings. YIPPEE, it is a beginning!!!!!

> > > > >

> > > > > We are thinking about starting a group in the area. One idea

> > > that came up

> > > > > was a group around Forgiveness, Lord knows I need it. Has

> > > anyone got any

> > > > > good ideas as to how it could be structured?? It would be

> > > VERY IMPORTANT

> > > > > not to go into Woundology!!

> > > > >

> > > > > BLESSINGS of GRACE,

> > > > > Gina

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:04 AM, iveeatenatoe

> > > <toveclan@>wrote:> >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My voice has been going quiet for sometime. I have been

> > > stuck in a "I

> > > > dont

> > > > > > know what to say" mode in group conversations for a long

> > > time.I went to

> > > > a

> > > > > > weekend course this weekend and found I could hardly get a

> > > word out. I

> > > > > > literally was silent but it wasnt comfortable silence. I

> > > desparately> wanted

> > > > > > to fill the silence but simply couldnt. I'm still not sure

> > > what was

> > > > going on

> > > > > > there or what archetype may have had control of me that weekend.

> > > > Gradually

> > > > > > as the weekend progressed this part of me did find the

> > > courage to speak

> > > > > > without script or story and since I have come back I have

> > > felt more

> > > > > > confident and safer within myself.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I read a wonderful poem by Kim Rosen yesterday and she

> > > talks about the

> > > > > > abuser and the abused and it made me realise I have been

> > > both the

> > > > abused

> > > > > > and... AND the abuser to myself and that I need a voice

> > > within me to

> > > > stop

> > > > > > that abuser of me for I have been doing to myself in my

> > > head what was

> > > > done

> > > > > > to me. I can remember saying I would never do to anyone

> > > else what was

> > > > done

> > > > > > to me but it is a reaslisation to learn that here I am

> > > doing it to

> > > > > > myself...makes me feel a deeper understanding of the

> > > person whose

> > > > behaviour

> > > > > > was abusive to wards me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Katherine

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --

> > > > > Gina

> > > > > I've clicked for peace! Have you?

> > > > >

> > > www.tenmillionclicksforpeace.org/?sid=42952c450WJu5466kW8095556&s=1> >

> > > > >

> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > Gina

> > > I've clicked for peace! Have you?

> > > www.tenmillionclicksforpeace.org/?sid=42952c450WJu5466kW8095556&s=1

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

>

>

>







--

Gina

I've clicked for peace! Have you?

www.tenmillionclicksforpeace.org/?sid=42952c450WJu5466kW8095556&s=1





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi, I am new to the group....and live in sunny South Africa! I have just

reread Carolinešs books and loved them all over again. Her message resonates

with me so much more now that I have been through the cocoon stage, I now

truly understand...I received a channeling the other day which used the

analogy of a cup of coffee, only when it is empty can you really refill the

cup with superb coffee, a much better, richer flavored coffee which will

make the enjoyment so much better.... So very often we try to fill a half

empty cup with new tasting coffee, which will only dilute what you already

have and not give you the opportunity to savor the new.



Much love

Lesley.





On 2009/07/05 8:39 PM, "Gina" <eternallyoptimystic@...> wrote:



>

>

>

>

>

> Some of you might know that I recently moved and am delighting in high speed

> Internet for the first time.  Addressing this ? of who we are, I can not

> recommend highly enough the Jill Bolte Taylor youtube at

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyyjU8fzEYU

> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyyjU8fzEYU>Seriously, I cry tears of bliss

> every time I see it!!  Talk about cry-sail-is Interesting misspelling

> Katherine! <giggle>  Perhaps all thoughts are old stuff.  I especially like

> the part where she says "there was total silence..."

>

> In Joy,

> Gina

>

> On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 11:34 AM, iveeatenatoe <toveclan@...

> <mailto:toveclan%40nildram.co.uk> >wrote:

>

>> >

>> >

>> > Thanks Glenn. Ican use your anaology. This is what is going on in me at the

>> > moment. I am "sorting" between which is authentic me and what needs to be

>> > let go of. ie what is caterpiller and what is butterfly. so when a thought

>> > comes up I am conscoiusly deciding if it is authentic me or old false me or

>> > as i like from your analogy is it caterpillar or butterfly. This butterfly

>> > desparately wanbts to fly and am stuggling out of my crysailis and filling

>> > up my wings with my own life blood.

>> >

>> > Katherine

>> >

>> >

>> > --- In mysslist@yahoogroups.com <mailto:mysslist%40yahoogroups.com>

>> <mysslist%40yahoogroups.com>, GLENN

>> > WAINMAN <gbwainman@...> wrote:

>>> > >

>>> > > I like the thought that to become a butterfly you have to stop being a

>> > caterpiller to become the cocoon and emerge when you are ready, on a bright

>> > sunny day so that your wings will dry and unfold in their own time. I think

>> > it is about letting Creator take the time to make us our most perfect self

>> > in transformation.

>>> > >

>>> > > In Peace and Healing

>>> > > Glenn

>>> > >

>>> > > ----- Original Message -----

>>> > > From: Gina <eternallyoptimystic@...>

>>> > > Date: Friday, July 3, 2009 12:09 pm

>>> > > Subject: Re: CM The quiet one

>>> > > To: mysslist@yahoogroups.com <mailto:mysslist%40yahoogroups.com>

>>> <mysslist%40yahoogroups.com>

>>> > >

>>>> > > > Katherine,

>>>> > > >

>>>> > > > At this moment my book is in my room and my BF is sleeping

>>>> > > > having worked a

>>>> > > > 12 hr. shift last night but... basically the cocoon phase is a

>>>> > > > VERY INTENSE

>>>> > > > going deep within phase which is accompanied by a deep external

>>>> > > > silence.I've been there for nearly 2 years. I come out and

>>>> > > > get chatty for a few

>>>> > > > days and then go back.

>>>> > > > Just know, on the other side, is the BUTTERFLY......she cries with

>>>> > > > longing!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>>> > > >

>>>> > > > BLESSINGS of GRACE for u ALL,

>>>> > > > Gina

>>>> > > >

>>>> > > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 7:14 AM, iveeatenatoe

>>>> > > > <toveclan@...> wrote:

>>>> > > >

>>>>> > > > >

>>>>> > > > >

>>>>> > > > > Gina

>>>>> > > > >

>>>>> > > > > I seemed to have got the quietest quiet a could get that

>>>> > > > weekend and it was

>>>>> > > > > enough I think to push my heart voice to come forward. I spoke

>>>> > > > words which

>>>>> > > > > arose in the heart instead of speaking my script or stories

>>>> > > > and it was a new

>>>>> > > > > experience for me. Since doing that I feel more confidence

>>>> > > > within myself and

>>>>> > > > > feel more centred in my heart. Its a good feeling. Sometimes

>>>> > > > the tensions of

>>>>> > > > > discomfort needs to get to its worst with me before I break

>>>> > > > through the

>>>>> > > > > wall.

>>>>> > > > >

>>>>> > > > > I cant find my book to check what the cocoon stage is...

>>>>> > > > >

>>>>> > > > > Katherine

>>>>> > > > >

>>>>> > > > >

>>>>> > > > > --- In mysslist@yahoogroups.com

>>>>> <mailto:mysslist%40yahoogroups.com>  <mysslist%40yahoogroups.com>

>>>> > > > <mysslist%40yahoogroups.com>, Gina

>>>>> > > > > <eternallyoptimystic@> wrote:

>>>>>> > > > > >

>>>>>> > > > > > Dear Katherine,

>>>>>> > > > > >

>>>>>> > > > > > Perhaps that quiet part of yourself is what St. Teresa would

>>>> > > > call the

>>>>>> > > > > > cocooning phase? I'm hardly ever quiet but have been much,

>>>> > > > much quieter

>>>>>> > > > > > this last 1.5 yrs. Now with my children in Spain, I'm

>>>> > > > quieter than

>>>>>> > > > > > ever!!!!

>>>>>> > > > > >

>>>>>> > > > > > My exception was today. I had coffee with Mary, a woman who

>>>> > > > is new to the

>>>>>> > > > > > area. We melded, fused and flowed like long lost sisters. It

>>>> > > > is the very

>>>>>> > > > > > first COMMUNITY I've felt since moving here! Well, besides

>>>> > > > Scot and his

>>>>>> > > > > > gigantic family, 10 siblings. YIPPEE, it is a beginning!!!!!

>>>>>> > > > > >

>>>>>> > > > > > We are thinking about starting a group in the area. One idea

>>>> > > > that came up

>>>>>> > > > > > was a group around Forgiveness, Lord knows I need it. Has

>>>> > > > anyone got any

>>>>>> > > > > > good ideas as to how it could be structured?? It would be

>>>> > > > VERY IMPORTANT

>>>>>> > > > > > not to go into Woundology!!

>>>>>> > > > > >

>>>>>> > > > > > BLESSINGS of GRACE,

>>>>>> > > > > > Gina

>>>>>> > > > > >

>>>>>> > > > > >

>>>>>> > > > > >

>>>>>> > > > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:04 AM, iveeatenatoe

>>>> > > > <toveclan@>wrote:> >

>>>>>>> > > > > > >

>>>>>>> > > > > > >

>>>>>>> > > > > > > My voice has been going quiet for sometime. I have been

>>>> > > > stuck in a "I

>>>>> > > > > dont

>>>>>>> > > > > > > know what to say" mode in group conversations for a long

>>>> > > > time.I went to

>>>>> > > > > a

>>>>>>> > > > > > > weekend course this weekend and found I could hardly get a

>>>> > > > word out. I

>>>>>>> > > > > > > literally was silent but it wasnt comfortable silence. I

>>>> > > > desparately> wanted

>>>>>>> > > > > > > to fill the silence but simply couldnt. I'm still not sure

>>>> > > > what was

>>>>> > > > > going on

>>>>>>> > > > > > > there or what archetype may have had control of me that

weekend.

>>>>> > > > > Gradually

>>>>>>> > > > > > > as the weekend progressed this part of me did find the

>>>> > > > courage to speak

>>>>>>> > > > > > > without script or story and since I have come back I have

>>>> > > > felt more

>>>>>>> > > > > > > confident and safer within myself.

>>>>>>> > > > > > >

>>>>>>> > > > > > > I read a wonderful poem by Kim Rosen yesterday and she

>>>> > > > talks about the

>>>>>>> > > > > > > abuser and the abused and it made me realise I have been

>>>> > > > both the

>>>>> > > > > abused

>>>>>>> > > > > > > and... AND the abuser to myself and that I need a voice

>>>> > > > within me to

>>>>> > > > > stop

>>>>>>> > > > > > > that abuser of me for I have been doing to myself in my

>>>> > > > head what was

>>>>> > > > > done

>>>>>>> > > > > > > to me. I can remember saying I would never do to anyone

>>>> > > > else what was

>>>>> > > > > done

>>>>>>> > > > > > > to me but it is a reaslisation to learn that here I am

>>>> > > > doing it to

>>>>>>> > > > > > > myself...makes me feel a deeper understanding of the

>>>> > > > person whose

>>>>> > > > > behaviour

>>>>>>> > > > > > > was abusive to wards me.

>>>>>>> > > > > > >

>>>>>>> > > > > > > Katherine

>>>>>>> > > > > > >

>>>>>>> > > > > > >

>>>>>>> > > > > > >

>>>>>> > > > > >

>>>>>> > > > > >

>>>>>> > > > > >

>>>>>> > > > > > --

>>>>>> > > > > > Gina

>>>>>> > > > > > I've clicked for peace! Have you?

>>>>>> > > > > >

>>>> > > > www.tenmillionclicksforpeace.org/?sid=42952c450WJu5466kW8095556&s=1>

>

>>>>>> > > > > >

>>>>>> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>>>>>> > > > > >

>>>>> > > > >

>>>>> > > > >

>>>>> > > > >

>>>> > > >

>>>> > > >

>>>> > > >

>>>> > > > --

>>>> > > > Gina

>>>> > > > I've clicked for peace! Have you?

>>>> > > > www.tenmillionclicksforpeace.org/?sid=42952c450WJu5466kW8095556&s=1

>>>> > > >

>>>> > > >

>>>> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>>>> > > >

>>>> > > >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>>> > >

>> >

>> >

>> >







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Welcome Lesley

I'm big on the clean and empty cup, If we are inviting God into our

space the least we can to is tidy up. If we really expect that it will

happen, we need to get meticulous.



In Peace and Healing

Glenn



Lesley wrote:

>

>

> Hi, I am new to the group....and live in sunny South Africa! I have just

> reread Carolinešs books and loved them all over again. Her message

> resonates

> with me so much more now that I have been through the cocoon stage, I now

> truly understand...I received a channeling the other day which used the

> analogy of a cup of coffee, only when it is empty can you really

> refill the

> cup with superb coffee, a much better, richer flavored coffee which will

> make the enjoyment so much better.... So very often we try to fill a half

> empty cup with new tasting coffee, which will only dilute what you already

> have and not give you the opportunity to savor the new.

>

> Much love

> Lesley.

>

> On 2009/07/05 8:39 PM, "Gina" <eternallyoptimystic@...

> <mailto:eternallyoptimystic%40gmail.com>> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Some of you might know that I recently moved and am delighting in

> high speed

> > Internet for the first time. Addressing this ? of who we are, I can not

> > recommend highly enough the Jill Bolte Taylor youtube at

> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyyjU8fzEYU

> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyyjU8fzEYU>

> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyyjU8fzEYU

> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyyjU8fzEYU>>Seriously, I cry tears of

> bliss

> > every time I see it!! Talk about cry-sail-is Interesting misspelling

> > Katherine! <giggle> Perhaps all thoughts are old stuff. I especially

> like

> > the part where she says "there was total silence..."

> >

> > In Joy,

> > Gina

> >

> > On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 11:34 AM, iveeatenatoe

> <toveclan@... <mailto:toveclan%40nildram.co.uk>

> > <mailto:toveclan%40nildram.co.uk> >wrote:

> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > Thanks Glenn. Ican use your anaology. This is what is going on in

> me at the

> >> > moment. I am "sorting" between which is authentic me and what

> needs to be

> >> > let go of. ie what is caterpiller and what is butterfly. so when

> a thought

> >> > comes up I am conscoiusly deciding if it is authentic me or old

> false me or

> >> > as i like from your analogy is it caterpillar or butterfly. This

> butterfly

> >> > desparately wanbts to fly and am stuggling out of my crysailis

> and filling

> >> > up my wings with my own life blood.

> >> >

> >> > Katherine

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > --- In mysslist@yahoogroups.com

> <mailto:mysslist%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:mysslist%40yahoogroups.com>

> >> <mysslist%40yahoogroups.com>, GLENN

> >> > WAINMAN <gbwainman@...> wrote:

> >>> > >

> >>> > > I like the thought that to become a butterfly you have to stop

> being a

> >> > caterpiller to become the cocoon and emerge when you are ready,

> on a bright

> >> > sunny day so that your wings will dry and unfold in their own

> time. I think

> >> > it is about letting Creator take the time to make us our most

> perfect self

> >> > in transformation.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > In Peace and Healing

> >>> > > Glenn

> >>> > >

> >>> > > ----- Original Message -----

> >>> > > From: Gina <eternallyoptimystic@...>

> >>> > > Date: Friday, July 3, 2009 12:09 pm

> >>> > > Subject: Re: CM The quiet one

> >>> > > To: mysslist@yahoogroups.com

> <mailto:mysslist%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:mysslist%40yahoogroups.com>

> >>> <mysslist%40yahoogroups.com>

> >>> > >

> >>>> > > > Katherine,

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > > At this moment my book is in my room and my BF is sleeping

> >>>> > > > having worked a

> >>>> > > > 12 hr. shift last night but... basically the cocoon phase is a

> >>>> > > > VERY INTENSE

> >>>> > > > going deep within phase which is accompanied by a deep external

> >>>> > > > silence.I've been there for nearly 2 years. I come out and

> >>>> > > > get chatty for a few

> >>>> > > > days and then go back.

> >>>> > > > Just know, on the other side, is the BUTTERFLY......she

> cries with

> >>>> > > > longing!!!!!!!!!!!!

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > > BLESSINGS of GRACE for u ALL,

> >>>> > > > Gina

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 7:14 AM, iveeatenatoe

> >>>> > > > <toveclan@...> wrote:

> >>>> > > >

> >>>>> > > > >

> >>>>> > > > >

> >>>>> > > > > Gina

> >>>>> > > > >

> >>>>> > > > > I seemed to have got the quietest quiet a could get that

> >>>> > > > weekend and it was

> >>>>> > > > > enough I think to push my heart voice to come forward. I

> spoke

> >>>> > > > words which

> >>>>> > > > > arose in the heart instead of speaking my script or stories

> >>>> > > > and it was a new

> >>>>> > > > > experience for me. Since doing that I feel more confidence

> >>>> > > > within myself and

> >>>>> > > > > feel more centred in my heart. Its a good feeling. Sometimes

> >>>> > > > the tensions of

> >>>>> > > > > discomfort needs to get to its worst with me before I break

> >>>> > > > through the

> >>>>> > > > > wall.

> >>>>> > > > >

> >>>>> > > > > I cant find my book to check what the cocoon stage is...

> >>>>> > > > >

> >>>>> > > > > Katherine

> >>>>> > > > >

> >>>>> > > > >

> >>>>> > > > > --- In mysslist@yahoogroups.com

> <mailto:mysslist%40yahoogroups.com>

> >>>>> <mailto:mysslist%40yahoogroups.com> <mysslist%40yahoogroups.com>

> >>>> > > > <mysslist%40yahoogroups.com>, Gina

> >>>>> > > > > <eternallyoptimystic@> wrote:

> >>>>>> > > > > >

> >>>>>> > > > > > Dear Katherine,

> >>>>>> > > > > >

> >>>>>> > > > > > Perhaps that quiet part of yourself is what St.

> Teresa would

> >>>> > > > call the

> >>>>>> > > > > > cocooning phase? I'm hardly ever quiet but have been

> much,

> >>>> > > > much quieter

> >>>>>> > > > > > this last 1.5 yrs. Now with my children in Spain, I'm

> >>>> > > > quieter than

> >>>>>> > > > > > ever!!!!

> >>>>>> > > > > >

> >>>>>> > > > > > My exception was today. I had coffee with Mary, a

> woman who

> >>>> > > > is new to the

> >>>>>> > > > > > area. We melded, fused and flowed like long lost

> sisters. It

> >>>> > > > is the very

> >>>>>> > > > > > first COMMUNITY I've felt since moving here! Well,

> besides

> >>>> > > > Scot and his

> >>>>>> > > > > > gigantic family, 10 siblings. YIPPEE, it is a

> beginning!!!!!

> >>>>>> > > > > >

> >>>>>> > > > > > We are thinking about starting a group in the area.

> One idea

> >>>> > > > that came up

> >>>>>> > > > > > was a group around Forgiveness, Lord knows I need it. Has

> >>>> > > > anyone got any

> >>>>>> > > > > > good ideas as to how it could be structured?? It would be

> >>>> > > > VERY IMPORTANT

> >>>>>> > > > > > not to go into Woundology!!

> >>>>>> > > > > >

> >>>>>> > > > > > BLESSINGS of GRACE,

> >>>>>> > > > > > Gina

> >>>>>> > > > > >

> >>>>>> > > > > >

> >>>>>> > > > > >

> >>>>>> > > > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:04 AM, iveeatenatoe

> >>>> > > > <toveclan@>wrote:> >

> >>>>>>> > > > > > >

> >>>>>>> > > > > > >

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > My voice has been going quiet for sometime. I have

> been

> >>>> > > > stuck in a "I

> >>>>> > > > > dont

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > know what to say" mode in group conversations for

> a long

> >>>> > > > time.I went to

> >>>>> > > > > a

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > weekend course this weekend and found I could

> hardly get a

> >>>> > > > word out. I

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > literally was silent but it wasnt comfortable

> silence. I

> >>>> > > > desparately> wanted

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > to fill the silence but simply couldnt. I'm still

> not sure

> >>>> > > > what was

> >>>>> > > > > going on

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > there or what archetype may have had control of me

> that

> weekend.

> >>>>> > > > > Gradually

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > as the weekend progressed this part of me did find the

> >>>> > > > courage to speak

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > without script or story and since I have come back

> I have

> >>>> > > > felt more

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > confident and safer within myself.

> >>>>>>> > > > > > >

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > I read a wonderful poem by Kim Rosen yesterday and she

> >>>> > > > talks about the

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > abuser and the abused and it made me realise I

> have been

> >>>> > > > both the

> >>>>> > > > > abused

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > and... AND the abuser to myself and that I need a

> voice

> >>>> > > > within me to

> >>>>> > > > > stop

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > that abuser of me for I have been doing to myself

> in my

> >>>> > > > head what was

> >>>>> > > > > done

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > to me. I can remember saying I would never do to

> anyone

> >>>> > > > else what was

> >>>>> > > > > done

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > to me but it is a reaslisation to learn that here I am

> >>>> > > > doing it to

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > myself...makes me feel a deeper understanding of the

> >>>> > > > person whose

> >>>>> > > > > behaviour

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > was abusive to wards me.

> >>>>>>> > > > > > >

> >>>>>>> > > > > > > Katherine

> >>>>>>> > > > > > >

> >>>>>>> > > > > > >

> >>>>>>> > > > > > >

> >>>>>> > > > > >

> >>>>>> > > > > >

> >>>>>> > > > > >

> >>>>>> > > > > > --

> >>>>>> > > > > > Gina

> >>>>>> > > > > > I've clicked for peace! Have you?

> >>>>>> > > > > >

> >>>> > > >

> www.tenmillionclicksforpeace.org/?sid=42952c450WJu5466kW8095556&s=1>

> >

> >>>>>> > > > > >

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> >>>>>> > > > > >

> >>>>> > > > >

> >>>>> > > > >

> >>>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > > --

> >>>> > > > Gina

> >>>> > > > I've clicked for peace! Have you?

> >>>> > > >

> www.tenmillionclicksforpeace.org/?sid=42952c450WJu5466kW8095556&s=1

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > >

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> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

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> >>> > >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

>

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>

Yesterday I received  a prayer list and it it inspired this bit to musing



Yesterday I received a prayer list

I printed two copies and left them on my desk

On copy for my wife, and one for me.

I left the copies on my desk



I saw a lady walking on the street

I thought; how sad her size impedes her way

I offered grace that she would see

Each step she takes a way to pray.



In the news a young black man

Is fighting the hate of three white thugs

I think of the prayer list on my desk

I think what will I do to change this mess



A friend with cancer returns to work

A sisters husband on his last breaths

I thank God for I am blessed

And still the prayer list on my desk



How often we say, it's in Gods hands

We use our prayer as last resort

Forgetting whose hands  we're in

The list might be a better way to begin



In Peace and Healing

Glenn

Thank you, Glenn, for sharing this thought.

It is sometimes easy to forget "whose hands we are in".

We in the personal sense and the universal.



I see a co-worker lose her job and I pray for her.

I watch my uncle, my father's brother, be buried and I pray for him.

I hear of soldiers in Afghanistan and I pray for them.



Sometimes I feel my prayers are futile, there is not enough time for all

the prayers needed.  Sometimes it is easy, sometimes not.  Often times

prayers of gratitude roll easily off my tongue and at rare times they cannot

even be remembered.



Usually, the power of prayer is so clear to me.

Thanks for reminding me, again.

In peace and harmony,

Sally





In a message dated 7/7/2009 8:27:36 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

gbwainman@... writes:











Yesterday I received a prayer list and it it inspired this bit to  musing



Yesterday I received a prayer list

I printed two copies and  left them on my desk

On copy for my wife, and one for me.

I left the  copies on my desk



I saw a lady walking on the street

I thought; how  sad her size impedes her way

I offered grace that she would see

Each  step she takes a way to pray.



In the news a young black man

Is  fighting the hate of three white thugs

I think of the prayer list on my  desk

I think what will I do to change this mess



A friend with cancer  returns to work

A sisters husband on his last breaths

I thank God for I  am blessed

And still the prayer list on my desk



How often we say,  it's in Gods hands

We use our prayer as last resort

Forgetting whose  hands we're in

The list might be a better way to begin



In Peace and  Healing

Glenn









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Thank you for this profound message, Glenn & Sally. This reminds me of

Caroline's story about the accident, where the gift of a persons

prayer gave the woman the power enabled the woman to return to her

body. I received this message from an intuitive which I thought I

would share with you. We need to learn to flow with life, in order to

embrace the lessons of the soul...FLOW meaning the following :

F = Faith we must have in prayer, ourselves & others

L = Love all things & everyone unconditionally

O = Opportunity, the oppotunities each one of us are given to grow our

soul

W = When we can do the above 3 we have a WOW life, filled with wisdom...



Wishing you an amazing day...

Lesley x



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On 08 Jul 2009, at 1:20, Soybnqn@... wrote:



>

>

> Thank you, Glenn, for sharing this thought.

> It is sometimes easy to forget "whose hands we are in".

> We in the personal sense and the universal.

>

> I see a co-worker lose her job and I pray for her.

> I watch my uncle, my father's brother, be buried and I pray for him.

> I hear of soldiers in Afghanistan and I pray for them.

>

> Sometimes I feel my prayers are futile, there is not enough time for

> all

> the prayers needed. Sometimes it is easy, sometimes not. Often times

> prayers of gratitude roll easily off my tongue and at rare times

> they cannot

> even be remembered.

>

> Usually, the power of prayer is so clear to me.

> Thanks for reminding me, again.

> In peace and harmony,

> Sally

>

>

> In a message dated 7/7/2009 8:27:36 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> gbwainman@... writes:

>

> Yesterday I received a prayer list and it it inspired this bit to

> musing

>

> Yesterday I received a prayer list

> I printed two copies and left them on my desk

> On copy for my wife, and one for me.

> I left the copies on my desk

>

> I saw a lady walking on the street

> I thought; how sad her size impedes her way

> I offered grace that she would see

> Each step she takes a way to pray.

>

> In the news a young black man

> Is fighting the hate of three white thugs

> I think of the prayer list on my desk

> I think what will I do to change this mess

>

> A friend with cancer returns to work

> A sisters husband on his last breaths

> I thank God for I am blessed

> And still the prayer list on my desk

>

> How often we say, it's in Gods hands

> We use our prayer as last resort

> Forgetting whose hands we're in

> The list might be a better way to begin

>

> In Peace and Healing

> Glenn

>

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> Personals.

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>

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