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#2610 From: "twysted" <twistedangel64@...>
Date: Wed Feb 8, 2006 2:32 am
Subject: I'm here *G*
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Hey Elissa,

I made it *S* thanks for telling me about the group.

Hi everyone

my hubby is multiple so i'm here

i'll post more a bit later after i get some time to catch up

take care
beth

#2609 From: JNSWTHRT@...
Date: Tue Feb 7, 2006 6:07 pm
Subject: Re: [MPD Spouses] wow, people!!
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In a message dated 2/7/2006 6:47:10 AM Pacific Standard Time,
lissagifford@... writes:

> what makes Jen(s) tick?

Wow - you should hear the uproar in my head - don't do well with open-ended
questions, most of the time.  It's like asking a question to a room full of
people - all with different answers - and everyone answering you at the same
time.  Noise.

Anything specific you want to know?

Hugs are always ok -

Jen


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#2608 From: JNSWTHRT@...
Date: Tue Feb 7, 2006 6:05 pm
Subject: Re: [MPD Spouses] wow, people!!
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In a message dated 2/7/2006 6:38:54 AM Pacific Standard Time,
lissagifford@... writes:

> Are you in a relationship now (with anybody)?  Are you, or have you ever
> been, in a relationship with another multi?
>

When you say 'relationship', I am assuming you are referring to SO, as in
'romantic' (not the accurate term, but can't think of a better one at present) -
primary partner, etc.  In that case...no - I've never been SO for a multiple;
at least, not the type of multiple I am - multiple, polarized by childhood
trauma.  I personally believe all people have a type of 'natural multiplicity' -
so in THAT way, yes - I've been SO.  But, that's cheating sooooo...

I am currently in a relationship - REALLY long story there.

Thanks for going to bat for me with the sosupport group.  No, you didn't make
me mad; You didn't disclose anything personal - THAT would you have to get my
permission for.  I appreciate you stating my case and sorry I won't be
joining the group.  Guess we'll just have to energize this one.

The idea of a new group; Add one multiple plus one singleton equals many
perspectives on life; sounds great.  Let's get to know each other a bit more and
we'll see where it leads us.  Any background information you're comfortable
sharing?

Hope work went well today - what type of work do you do?

Jen


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#2607 From: JNSWTHRT@...
Date: Tue Feb 7, 2006 5:57 pm
Subject: Re: [MPD Spouses] nothing but spam here?
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In a message dated 2/7/2006 6:34:34 AM Pacific Standard Time,
lissagifford@... writes:

> Usually I thrive on chaos, so I'm trying to hang with D, but sometimes... <
> sigh>  Well, let's just say every day is ripe with new experiences for us

Hi Lissa; (Is it ok to just 'jump in' when posts are addressed to other
people...or should I stay out?  Let me know what's comfortable here)

Care to elaborate on the above?  You also said things get turbulent there.
How so?  Concerned and interested.  Share only what is comfortable for you, if
anything

Jen


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#2606 From: Lissa Gifford <lissagifford@...>
Date: Tue Feb 7, 2006 2:39 pm
Subject: Re: [MPD Spouses] wow, people!!
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I will share more, but not this morning... same question for you... what makes
Jen(s) tick?  hehe
   Hugs if okay, fuzzies if not,
   Lissa


JNSWTHRT@... wrote:
   In a message dated 2/6/2006 6:24:45 PM Pacific Standard Time,
lissagifford@... writes:

> I
> know they've helped ME immensely in the year I've been living with my
> DID (apparently, not diagnosed professionally, but I LIVE with him,
> you know?)

Oh - forgot to ask...do you want to share any of your experience or anything?
Would like to hear whatever you would feel comfortable sharing.  If not -
that's ok too.

Jen




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#2605 From: Lissa Gifford <lissagifford@...>
Date: Tue Feb 7, 2006 2:36 pm
Subject: Re: [MPD Spouses] wow, people!!
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Jen,
   Sosupport is technically targeted for SOs of multiples... of course, multiples
can BE SOs of other multiples, and in large part, that's true for the multis who
are there... either they are now, or they have been with a multiple in the past.
Are you in a relationship now (with anybody)?  Are you, or have you ever been,
in a relationship with another multi?
   If not, the group may not be what you're looking for... but I did mention you
to Norm, one of the group moderators, and he said if you were, then of course
you'd be welcome...
   Actually, (please don't be mad), what I did was forwarded the below message to
him and told him to look for your application if you signed on, because I do
*not* like it that you were rejected and wanted to make sure you wouldn't be, if
you wanted to join our group.  What groups said no?  If you don't mind telling
me, I'd like to know... if I'm on them, I'll bitch... if I'm not, I won't bother
trying to be, either... <hurt my friend, shame on you! lol>
   If sosupport isn't a good fit for you, heck, maybe you and I could/should
start another, new group one day... you be the multi, I'll be the spud SO, and
we'll just invite everybody in the world to come and talk to us who can relate
to either point of view!  LOL
   Sounds like a decent plan to me... interested?  (Of course, time would be a
factor for me... but I have run groups before and know how to do the admin-type
stuff it would require... just a thought.)

   Off to get ready for work,
   Lissa
   (more later, bet on it!)

JNSWTHRT@... wrote:
   In a message dated 2/6/2006 6:24:45 PM Pacific Standard Time,
lissagifford@... writes:

> I'm not promoting it INSTEAD of this group, merely pointing out that
> it's there, so I hope no one takes offense that I'm bringing it up,
> but if you're interested in learning more, go to the sosupport group
> and see if they might be something you might want to be a part of.  I
> know they've helped ME immensely in the year I've been living with my
> DID

No offense taken here.  Thanks for the lead.  Am a bit wary - just recently
tried to join 3-4 groups for MPD/DID support and was rejected by three.  Ouch.
Have been in groups for about four years now (minimum) and never a problem,
so don't understand why and a little gunshy.  Still looking for good support -
have little in 3D life, aside from a good therapist - so maybe I'll give it a
shot.  You say multiples are participating there as well as SO's - does that
work well?

Jen




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#2604 From: Lissa Gifford <lissagifford@...>
Date: Tue Feb 7, 2006 2:20 pm
Subject: Re: [MPD Spouses] nothing but spam here?
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Greg,
   Yeah, 2 SSs... it's a variation on my "real" name, dropped the E to become
Lissa, that's all... it's what D calls me.
   Sometimes, timing is everything, huh?  Glad to see you posting... feel free to
share more details of your story when you want, there really ARE people here who
are interested!
   I can SO relate to the "wonderful/disaster" thing... I'm still committed to
making this relationship work, but sometimes I do wonder if I should just be
committed, instead... LOL  Only half kidding, it sure does get turbulent here,
at times.
   (Meeting a T this week, starting over in therapy, haven't been in about a
decade but recently decided I need help with "today stuff" <never mind past
issues>... wish me luck!)
   Usually I thrive on chaos, so I'm trying to hang with D, but sometimes...
<sigh>  Well, let's just say every day is ripe with new experiences for us. 
I'll leave it there till I have more time, gotta get ready for work soon.
   Take care!
   Thanks for writing,
   Lissa


Gregory Woods <gw6786@...> wrote:
   Lissa,

   Two SSs?  Amazingly, I have not logged onto my Yahoo account until today, to
which I signed on the mpdspouses group in August or so last year.  There was
some activity back then, but like I said, amazingly, there is activity tonight! 
I have been a SO of someone whom has DID and it has been wonderful and then
turned to disaster.  I can't talk too much tonight, but I have been ripped apart
by all of this.  I understand now, but it is much too late now.

   Will tak to you again,

   Greg



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#2603 From: graham@...
Date: Tue Feb 7, 2006 10:08 am
Subject: Re: [MPD Spouses] nothing but spam here?
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Hi Lissa

Thanks for that. Nice to hear from you.

Graham

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> Hi, Graham!  Nice to meet you.  Wonderful, actually, you being a
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> So we'll see... if nothing comes of it, we may have to make a new
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> group and have everybody interested move there instead.  Or just do
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> the best we can here as far as putting up with the spam.  The delete
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> Take care,
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#2602 From: Lissa Gifford <lissagifford@...>
Date: Tue Feb 7, 2006 5:42 am
Subject: msgr Re: [MPD Spouses] nothing but spam here?
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Jen,
   Okay, tried two ways to hook you into msgr... invited your aol addy AND added
your yahoo profile nickname to my list... let me know what works... if you need
help, I'll be back on tomorrow afternoon after work.
   Have a great night/day/etc!
   Hugs if okay,
   Lissa


JNSWTHRT@... wrote:
   In a message dated 2/6/2006 5:55:41 PM Pacific Standard Time,
lissagifford@... writes:

> but personally, I'm glad you ARE here, because I'm happy to meet you

Well thanks, Lissa, and the feeling is mutual.  It's a refreshing pleasure to
meet singletons that are supportive and have a genuine interest in us
multiples as human beings, with value and see the benefits that we can bring to
their
lives.

You said you see I have 'messenger'; here's the admission - I don't know
anything about that.  You'll have to clue me in.  Old dog here - not all that
computer literate, but willing to learn.

Jen


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#2601 From: Lissa Gifford <lissagifford@...>
Date: Tue Feb 7, 2006 5:31 am
Subject: Re: [MPD Spouses] nothing but spam here?
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Jen,
   Thanks!  I've had quite a bit of experience with multis... years ago I used to
hang out in newsgroups, notably alt.sexual.abuse.recovery... (yeah I belonged
there... long story), and there was where I met my first multi friends... also
alt.support.dissociation, and recently I've been sort of lurking there again,
too (was looking for someone I knew back then and found her/them again)... a
real-life friend of mine (male body) who is also a multi lived with me for a
while (another long story)... so I could already "speak the language" even
before I met and fell in love with D... didn't *know* he was multi at first, but
it didn't take long to put the pieces (so to speak) together and figure it out,
I get clues all the time.
   Point is, I meant what I said, I'll be happy to talk to any of you(s) anytime,
so pass the word... I'm disgustingly open-minded!  LOL
   About yahoo messenger, when you're online/available it shows the yellow smiley
face... you won't see mine lit up because I actually use messenger under a
different name, but the alias quietmama2003 is linked to that name, so if you
*were* to message it, I'd receive it... also I stay invisible to cut down on
crap from people I call "wannas" who just troll to see who they can find to
bother.  If you don't USE msgr I don't understand why it shows you as being
online... hmm.  We'll have to explore that sometime, but 1230 am would not be my
time of choice... LOL
   I think I'll try to add you to mine, so don't freak if you get an email from a
different name, I'm using an alias (based on D's name, not mine exactly) on this
group... but I am a real person and I'll let you know it's me.  Fair 'nuff?
   Old dog?  Nah.  As for computer literate, I've been online for over 10 years,
so if there's something you'd like to know more about, ask, if I can't tell you,
I'll find somebody who can.
   Tell me more about Jen, et al... love to hear back from you!

   Take care,
   Lissa


JNSWTHRT@... wrote:
   In a message dated 2/6/2006 5:55:41 PM Pacific Standard Time,
lissagifford@... writes:

> but personally, I'm glad you ARE here, because I'm happy to meet you

Well thanks, Lissa, and the feeling is mutual.  It's a refreshing pleasure to
meet singletons that are supportive and have a genuine interest in us
multiples as human beings, with value and see the benefits that we can bring to
their
lives.

You said you see I have 'messenger'; here's the admission - I don't know
anything about that.  You'll have to clue me in.  Old dog here - not all that
computer literate, but willing to learn.

Jen




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#2600 From: JNSWTHRT@...
Date: Tue Feb 7, 2006 12:17 am
Subject: Re: [MPD Spouses] wow, people!!
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In a message dated 2/6/2006 6:24:45 PM Pacific Standard Time,
lissagifford@... writes:

> I
> know they've helped ME immensely in the year I've been living with my
> DID (apparently, not diagnosed professionally, but I LIVE with him,
> you know?)

Oh - forgot to ask...do you want to share any of your experience or anything?
  Would like to hear whatever you would feel comfortable sharing.  If not -
that's ok too.

Jen


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#2599 From: JNSWTHRT@...
Date: Tue Feb 7, 2006 12:19 am
Subject: Re: [MPD Spouses] nothing but spam here?
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In a message dated 2/6/2006 7:36:58 PM Pacific Standard Time,
gw6786@... writes:

> I have been a SO of someone whom has DID and it has been wonderful and then
> turned to disaster.  I can't talk too much tonight, but I have been ripped
> apart by all of this.  I understand now, but it is much too late now.
>

Hi Greg;

Hope I'm not butting in - this was addressed to Lissa - just wanted to say
hello, not be offensive.  I'm sorry about your experience and understand if it's
hard to talk about.  If you want to talk - that's what this group is supposed
to be for, right?  We're here to listen

Jen et al.


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#2598 From: JNSWTHRT@...
Date: Tue Feb 7, 2006 12:15 am
Subject: Re: [MPD Spouses] wow, people!!
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In a message dated 2/6/2006 6:24:45 PM Pacific Standard Time,
lissagifford@... writes:

> I'm not promoting it INSTEAD of this group, merely pointing out that
> it's there, so I hope no one takes offense that I'm bringing it up,
> but if you're interested in learning more, go to the sosupport group
> and see if they might be something you might want to be a part of.  I
> know they've helped ME immensely in the year I've been living with my
> DID

No offense taken here.  Thanks for the lead.  Am a bit wary - just recently
tried to join 3-4 groups for MPD/DID support and was rejected by three.  Ouch.
Have been in groups for about four years now (minimum) and never a problem,
so don't understand why and a little gunshy.  Still looking for good support -
have little in 3D life, aside from a good therapist - so maybe I'll give it a
shot.  You say multiples are participating there as well as SO's - does that
work well?

Jen


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#2597 From: JNSWTHRT@...
Date: Tue Feb 7, 2006 12:10 am
Subject: Re: [MPD Spouses] nothing but spam here?
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In a message dated 2/6/2006 5:55:41 PM Pacific Standard Time,
lissagifford@... writes:

> but personally, I'm glad you ARE here, because I'm happy to meet you

Well thanks, Lissa, and the feeling is mutual.  It's a refreshing pleasure to
meet singletons that are supportive and have a genuine interest in us
multiples as human beings, with value and see the benefits that we can bring to
their
lives.

You said you see I have 'messenger'; here's the admission - I don't know
anything about that.  You'll have to clue me in.  Old dog here - not all that
computer literate, but willing to learn.

Jen


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#2596 From: Gregory Woods <gw6786@...>
Date: Tue Feb 7, 2006 3:32 am
Subject: Re: [MPD Spouses] nothing but spam here?
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Lissa,

   Two SSs?  Amazingly, I have not logged onto my Yahoo account until today, to
which I signed on the mpdspouses group in August or so last year.  There was
some activity back then, but like I said, amazingly, there is activity tonight! 
I have been a SO of someone whom has DID and it has been wonderful and then
turned to disaster.  I can't talk too much tonight, but I have been ripped apart
by all of this.  I understand now, but it is much too late now.

   Will tak to you again,

   Greg

lissagifford <lissagifford@...> wrote:

Jen,

Hi!

I guess I should point out, I'm not a moderator or anything... was just
going through my groups and deciding which ones to keep and which ones
to leave, and decided to take a shot at seeing if there WAS any "life"
here before I unsubscribed.  I found some... cool!  LOL

So I can't tell you the focus other than what's in the blurb on the
site's page... in other words, I can't say if you belong here or not,
but personally, I'm glad you ARE here, because I'm happy to meet you!

I see you have messenger... me too... quietmama2003 here, add me if
you'd like, I loooove to chat!  LOL

Not your average singleton (meaning I don't get weirded out by messages
from alters/littles/protectors/etc et al, so bring it on, Jen! hehe)...

Lissa the wordy


> This is the first relevant post I've seen since I joined - glad to
see it.
> What is the focus of this group?  Is this for spouses only?  I'm
multiple - so
> let me know.  Hope to see more activity.  Thanks for posting, Lissa
>
> Jen
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#2595 From: "lissagifford" <lissagifford@...>
Date: Tue Feb 7, 2006 1:18 am
Subject: wow, people!!
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Hey, there IS life here!!

LOL... glad I asked the question that sparked the latest
conversation... maybe I will stick around here a little longer, after
all.

I've looked around this group's site, seen that about half the
members mail is bouncing, and that we've already doubled the number
of posts from last month in One Day!!

And they're actually On Topic, too... Very Cool.

I may get in trouble for what I'm about to say (some groups are funny
about having other groups mentioned), but, I'm on another list
(group) through yahoo, sosupport, that is also for people in
relationships with folks having DID... that list is much more active
than this one has been, is full of really nice, helpful people...
some are SOs like me, some there have DID themselves...

I'm not promoting it INSTEAD of this group, merely pointing out that
it's there, so I hope no one takes offense that I'm bringing it up,
but if you're interested in learning more, go to the sosupport group
and see if they might be something you might want to be a part of.  I
know they've helped ME immensely in the year I've been living with my
DID (apparently, not diagnosed professionally, but I LIVE with him,
you know?) SO, D.

HTH someone... in any case, it's done my heart good to see THIS list
becoming more active again... nice to see you folks here!!

Cheers!!

Take care,
Lissa

#2594 From: "lissagifford" <lissagifford@...>
Date: Tue Feb 7, 2006 2:16 am
Subject: Re: [MPD Spouses] nothing but spam here?
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The plot thickens...

Hi, Graham!  Nice to meet you.  Wonderful, actually, you being a
psychologist and all, that rocks!

Your comment about the administrator sparked an idea... I just
emailed both the listed moderators, katy and mark, but katy's mail
bounced.

Will let you know if I hear anything from mark... I asked if they had
orphaned the group, and if so, if they'd give it to one of us to run
instead... also told them if they were still interested in being
here, to let us know that, too.

So we'll see... if nothing comes of it, we may have to make a new
group and have everybody interested move there instead.  Or just do
the best we can here as far as putting up with the spam.  The delete
key is your friend... LOL

Take care,
Lissa


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>
>
> Hi Jen
>
> This is also the first relevant post I have seen for a while as
well. There
> seems to be certain groups that use this forum to promote dating
and sex sites.
> Can't the administrator do something about this? I am not DID but
am very close
> to someone who is. I am a psychologist and would like this forum to
do more to
> assist people who are MPD/DID and their partners.
>
> Graham UK
>

#2593 From: "lissagifford" <lissagifford@...>
Date: Tue Feb 7, 2006 1:48 am
Subject: Re: [MPD Spouses] nothing but spam here?
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Jen,

Hi!

I guess I should point out, I'm not a moderator or anything... was just
going through my groups and deciding which ones to keep and which ones
to leave, and decided to take a shot at seeing if there WAS any "life"
here before I unsubscribed.  I found some... cool!  LOL

So I can't tell you the focus other than what's in the blurb on the
site's page... in other words, I can't say if you belong here or not,
but personally, I'm glad you ARE here, because I'm happy to meet you!

I see you have messenger... me too... quietmama2003 here, add me if
you'd like, I loooove to chat!  LOL

Not your average singleton (meaning I don't get weirded out by messages
from alters/littles/protectors/etc et al, so bring it on, Jen! hehe)...

Lissa the wordy


> This is the first relevant post I've seen since I joined - glad to
see it.
> What is the focus of this group?  Is this for spouses only?  I'm
multiple - so
> let me know.  Hope to see more activity.  Thanks for posting, Lissa
>
> Jen
>

#2592 From: "lissagifford" <lissagifford@...>
Date: Tue Feb 7, 2006 1:38 am
Subject: Re: [MPD Spouses] nothing but spam here?
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Aaron,

You won't get invalidation from ME, that's for sure...

My SO D is definitely fragmented enough that *I* think he's DID... he
hasn't had it formally diagnosed... he WAS dx'd with Borderline
Personality Disorder some years back, but honestly, I think that
could have been due to the doctor not knowing him well or not being
familiar with DID, maybe both.  I live with him, I've seen the
others, and I think the doc missed the boat.

Feel like sharing some of your wife's story?  *I* believe... surely
others here do, as well.  If they don't, IMNSHO, they shouldn't BE
here, considering what this group is SUPPOSED to be about.  I'd like
to see more from you... email's welcome if you aren't yet comfortable
with the idea of posting here.

I understand about the "general public" not having much of a clue...
a friend of mine at work had no idea that Dissociative Identity
Disorder was a "synonym" for Multiple Personality Disorder... she had
heard of MPD, but not DID, I mean.  That's probably pretty common.

I'm also somewhat familiar with Tourette's, if that makes any
difference... in college I was in a broadcasting society (not a
sorority or fraternity, but similar) and we did some fundraising for
Tourette's, so at least I have a working knowledge of the condition.
Long time ago, now, but I feel for you, just the same.

Glad you posted!
Lissa


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> Hello,
>
> I hear you. Posts here are rare, my hypothesis, as to cause, is
> social-political climate around DID/MPD seams to bring out a
> disproportionate amount of negative behavior in laypersons(general
> public), and clinician.  By disproportionate I mean, compared to
> majority of other diagnosis(s).  I'm an SO w/tourette, my Wife's
> reluctance to be outed causes me pause to post, fearing more
invalidation.
>
> Bread & Roses,
>
> Aaron Gilmore
>

#2591 From: JNSWTHRT@...
Date: Mon Feb 6, 2006 4:03 pm
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Hi Graham;

Thanks for writing.  No worries about causing fear, it wasn't your doing and
it wasn't serious.

I am encouraged by what you wrote, as it is completely in line with my
thinking and most importantly with my experience in life.  My childhood abuses
were
repressed for decades.  When things first started to surface, about four years
ago or so, it terrified me and caused me to fear I was losing my mind.  I
knew nothing about PTSD, flashbacks, body memory and the like, so I feared
insanity.  I cautiously informed the therapist I was seeing, "I think something
might have happened to me when I was a kid" - type of remark.  He told me to
read
a book on "False Memory Syndrome".  What was trying to surface promptly went
back hiding, so to speak, and it was only after a quick change in doctors and
then nearly another year before bits and pieces started to surface again.
Thank you for sharing your beliefs.

I understand your girlfriend's struggle in believing in her worth.  Is she in
good recovery?  It's hard to have a solid sense of self (no pun intended!)
and good self esteem for many of us with our histories.  It's also hampered by
the societal view and even the majority of the mental health field, in my
opinion.  It helps when one can view multiplicity as more of an asset than
liability.  Does she have a supportive and positive network?  Hope so.  Sounds
like
she's lucky to have you in her corner as well as your clients, with the approach
you described having in your practice.  I'm lucky enough to currently have a
therapist who sees things in the same light.

Feel free to write,

Jen



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#2590 From: graham@...
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Hi Jen

In the UK we have the British False Memory Society who believe that it is not
possible to repress memories of abuse. Some argue that poor therapists place
false memories in client’s minds that something happened to them that in
reality did not happen. Others argue that memories can indeed be repressed. My
research found that there is evidence of repression, more so than in cases of
false memory. My take on this is that repression does happen often. I never
suggest to a client that this or that happened but rather work with what the
client tells me. I believe that when a client shares with me that something
happened then it did. If they later change their mind then I work with that. It
is not for me to decide what is true and what is not. I believe that repression
is a valuable defence mechanism. I am sorry if my email caused you some fear. I
can assure you that I believe in repression and although this can’t be proved
scientifically in my heart I know. False memory can happen but like I said
seems to be less common than repression. It is possible that the False Memory
Societies serve to act as an umbrella for accused and convicted abusers. The
lady that I know who is DID is a friend/girlfriend. I have known her for a few
years and she is a wonderful person. Sometimes she finds that hard to accept
but I know all her personalities and respect and admire them all.

I might write to you and please feel free to write to me if you wish.

Take care.
Graham


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> The rest of your email touched hope inside of me, and believe me, that is a
>
> place that is relatively never touched here.  The idea of sharing ideas and
>
> information with someone who is not multiple, who believes in multiplicity,
> who
>
> has personal familiarity with multiplicity (as with your - is it friend?
> wife?;
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> current relationship? - wasn't clear; not necessary to disclose, if you don't
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>
> want to), and also a professional that believes and is seemingly supportive
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#2589 From: JNSWTHRT@...
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In a message dated 2/6/2006 9:46:03 AM Pacific Standard Time,
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> I have not as yet seen a client with DID maybe because so many people are
> not
> aware they have DID. If you would like to write to me personally please feel
> free. Maybe we can share information. No pressure either way

Graham;

Your first sentence about so many people are not aware they have DID is so
very true.  Part of my story as well.  I also believe it takes a very sensitive
therapist who has a level of humility and works to provide a 'client-oriented'
therapeutic relationship, with the necessary amount of safety required to let
these issues come to the surface.

If you would like to write to me personally, you are welcome to do so.  If
you're comfortable with this forum, that's ok too

Jen


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#2588 From: JNSWTHRT@...
Date: Mon Feb 6, 2006 1:03 pm
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In a message dated 2/6/2006 9:46:03 AM Pacific Standard Time,
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> My PhD was in
> false/repressed memory and included work on DID

Hi Graham;

I have to admit the above sent excitement and fear through me simultaneously!
  What is your position/belief/philosophy on false/repressed memory?

The rest of your email touched hope inside of me, and believe me, that is a
place that is relatively never touched here.  The idea of sharing ideas and
information with someone who is not multiple, who believes in multiplicity, who
has personal familiarity with multiplicity (as with your - is it friend? wife?;
current relationship? - wasn't clear; not necessary to disclose, if you don't
want to), and also a professional that believes and is seemingly supportive
is attractive, to say the least.

Hope to hear from you and about you soon

Jen


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#2587 From: graham@...
Date: Mon Feb 6, 2006 5:48 pm
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Hi Jen

I work as a counselling psychologist in private practice. My PhD was in
false/repressed memory and included work on DID. My reasons for studying DID
were because the UK is so behind the times in MPD/DID studies. Many
professionals here refuse to accept that DID is real. A few years ago I met
someone who became very dear to me and that I love deeply and she is DID. So
although I had studied DID I had no qualifications in the subject and had to go
to an American College to qualify. Luckily for me they have a UK office. This
has helped me in my personal relationship and so with personal experience of
DID and my studies I hope to be able to assist people with DID. I will share
that I know in my heart that DID exists and is a reaction/defence mechanism to
extreme trauma. According to my research in 2000 only 25% of abuse survivors
have the creative ability to Dissociate to the level of dissociation that DID
uses. This figure is likely now inaccurate.

I have not as yet seen a client with DID maybe because so many people are not
aware they have DID. If you would like to write to me personally please feel
free. Maybe we can share information. No pressure either way.

Best wishes

Graham


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>
> Nice to meet you.  I agree wholeheartedly with the above statement.  Would
>
> like to hear more of what you have to say.  What type of practice do you
> have? 
>
> What is your experience, perspective, opinion, thoughts, etc. about/around
>
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>
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Date: Mon Feb 6, 2006 10:38 am
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Hi Aaron;

Interesting hypothesis.  Would like to hear more of your thoughts and
perspectives - or anything else you'd like to share, if anything.

I understand your wife's reluctance; The external issues that go along with
this condition are so complex, living with the internal issues is enough on
it's own - let alone having to deal with the externals.  I'm sure it's hard for
someone in the spouse/SO role as well.

Hope to hear more from you

Jen


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#2585 From: JNSWTHRT@...
Date: Mon Feb 6, 2006 10:32 am
Subject: Re: [MPD Spouses] nothing but spam here?
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In a message dated 2/6/2006 2:15:38 AM Pacific Standard Time,
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> I am a psychologist and would like this forum to do more to
> assist people who are MPD/DID and their partners.

Hi Graham;

Nice to meet you.  I agree wholeheartedly with the above statement.  Would
like to hear more of what you have to say.  What type of practice do you have?
What is your experience, perspective, opinion, thoughts, etc. about/around
multiplicity - personally and/or professionally?  Whatever you're comfortable
sharing or discussing is welcome here.

Jen



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#2584 From: graham@...
Date: Mon Feb 6, 2006 10:17 am
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Hi Jen

This is also the first relevant post I have seen for a while as well. There
seems to be certain groups that use this forum to promote dating and sex sites.
Can't the administrator do something about this? I am not DID but am very close
to someone who is. I am a psychologist and would like this forum to do more to
assist people who are MPD/DID and their partners.

Graham UK

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> What is the focus of this group?  Is this for spouses only?  I'm multiple -
> so
>
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#2583 From: JNSWTHRT@...
Date: Sun Feb 5, 2006 9:58 pm
Subject: Re: [MPD Spouses] nothing but spam here?
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In a message dated 2/5/2006 11:11:33 AM Pacific Standard Time,
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> So I take it nobody posts anything relevant to MPD/DID here any more?
>
> About to unsubscribe...
> Lissa
>

This is the first relevant post I've seen since I joined - glad to see it.
What is the focus of this group?  Is this for spouses only?  I'm multiple - so
let me know.  Hope to see more activity.  Thanks for posting, Lissa

Jen


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#2582 From: Aaron Gilmore <agilmore@...>
Date: Mon Feb 6, 2006 2:26 am
Subject: Re: [MPD Spouses] nothing but spam here?
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Hello,

I hear you. Posts here are rare, my hypothesis, as to cause, is
social-political climate around DID/MPD seams to bring out a
disproportionate amount of negative behavior in laypersons(general
public), and clinician.  By disproportionate I mean, compared to
majority of other diagnosis(s).  I'm an SO w/tourette, my Wife's
reluctance to be outed causes me pause to post, fearing more invalidation.

Bread & Roses,

Aaron Gilmore

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>About to unsubscribe...
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#2581 From: "lissagifford" <lissagifford@...>
Date: Sun Feb 5, 2006 6:53 pm
Subject: nothing but spam here?
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So I take it nobody posts anything relevant to MPD/DID here any more?

About to unsubscribe...
Lissa

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