Hi Everyone :)
just sharing a feeling a revelation of sorts that hit me at work
last night. yesterday morning when D was getting ready for work he
made a comment to me, i cant even remember what it was but it was
like telling me i better do something..
so, being the smart ass i am, i naturally replied "sez who?"
well D stopped looked at me kinda funny and said "i don't know who
said that, it wasn't me but i don't know who it was"
we kinda joked about it and that was that
until it hit me at work, D was aware that he didnt say something
but someone did, and i don't know why but it made really sad to
realize that......
i don't understand my reaction at all, i have spent years waiting
for him to know what i know, Lord knows i dont ever want him to
know everything thats been said or done in the past, but i am glad
that he is just accepting everything and ready to learn to deal with
it all.....
anyway just wanted to share that....
thanx
beth
Hi all.
Beth is very correct. It can be a very hard road. I have known my SO for
almost 3 years. She was diagnosed with DID almost 4 years ago but knew about
her other "residents" long before that. Her protector has been there since she
was around 12 I believe. I knew about them very early on in our friendship.
Since then I have become very good friends with many of them. At last count
there were over 40 residents in her head. I've not met all of them, but most of
them. My best advice is patience, patience, patience. It is a long, hard road,
but the rewards I have found are priceless. Coming this October 12th will be my
SO and my first year anniversary.
Hope this helps,
Josh
angel <twistedangel64@...> wrote:
Hi Jack,
unfortunately i cant give you much help but i am eagerly waiting to
hear some replies to your questions.
i have been with my husband for more than 6 years now, have known
for 5 that he (or his body???) is multiple...... i suspected
before, especially after finding out the army diagnosed him
with "mpd tendencies" tendencies my but...... sheesh
but he, my husband, has been in denial for a long time, he chose
to think of himself as a "freak" or a "monster" instead of believing
he was multiple..
there hasnt been any therapy for either of us and right now i am
dead set against it but leave it open for the future....
i too feel we came together for a reason, D is my soulmate and i
love him just the way he is but sometimes its a rough road we travel
its been especially hard for me when he didnt "remember" a
conversation (especially when he was being a jerk or worse) but the
more i have read and learned and become comfortable with i believe
that each are individuals not parts of a whole and right now i feel
attempting to integrate would do more harm than good
i love my man the way he is and accept all of them, so far i "know"
3 others for sure and have had glimpses of more, get along great
with the one little, have an uneasy truce with the "protector" and
the 3rd just seems to be a narrator of sorts...
i have found no evidence of trauma or abuse to indicate this caused
the multiples but rather all of them tell me they just have always
been........ there is nothing that scares any of them except the
fear of being left by the little and spiders terrify D himself, and
the only trigger for the protector so far seems to be arguing with D
or a tremendous stress on him in some way,
but like i said its still really all new because until D was ready
to accept and deal with being multiple i felt there wasnt much i
could do without causing more harm than good......
anway, i think its awesome that you want to stand strong with the
woman you fell in love with and i offer friendship and support in
anyway i can......
best wishes
beth
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Hi Jack,
unfortunately i cant give you much help but i am eagerly waiting to
hear some replies to your questions.
i have been with my husband for more than 6 years now, have known
for 5 that he (or his body???) is multiple...... i suspected
before, especially after finding out the army diagnosed him
with "mpd tendencies" tendencies my but...... sheesh
but he, my husband, has been in denial for a long time, he chose
to think of himself as a "freak" or a "monster" instead of believing
he was multiple..
there hasnt been any therapy for either of us and right now i am
dead set against it but leave it open for the future....
i too feel we came together for a reason, D is my soulmate and i
love him just the way he is but sometimes its a rough road we travel
its been especially hard for me when he didnt "remember" a
conversation (especially when he was being a jerk or worse) but the
more i have read and learned and become comfortable with i believe
that each are individuals not parts of a whole and right now i feel
attempting to integrate would do more harm than good
i love my man the way he is and accept all of them, so far i "know"
3 others for sure and have had glimpses of more, get along great
with the one little, have an uneasy truce with the "protector" and
the 3rd just seems to be a narrator of sorts...
i have found no evidence of trauma or abuse to indicate this caused
the multiples but rather all of them tell me they just have always
been........ there is nothing that scares any of them except the
fear of being left by the little and spiders terrify D himself, and
the only trigger for the protector so far seems to be arguing with D
or a tremendous stress on him in some way,
but like i said its still really all new because until D was ready
to accept and deal with being multiple i felt there wasnt much i
could do without causing more harm than good......
anway, i think its awesome that you want to stand strong with the
woman you fell in love with and i offer friendship and support in
anyway i can......
best wishes
beth
I am new to this but I need some insights.
I recently met a woman who I have fallen in love with. She has
admited to me that she has been diagnosed with DID. She has said
that she is in control and have been though therapy for several
years. She has also admited that she has had relapses in the past,
the most recent being last July.
I have always believed that patience and love will prevail and heal
almost any wounds. I am not asking for directions, I just need to
know if a relationship is possible with someone with DID. Are there
things I should know to do or not to do? How should I treat her?
What approach do I take? Should I ask her more details about her
alters? Should Iadress the alters in any way?
Any help or insights would be gratefully read and used for learning.
I feel that I met this woman for a reason. I think that it is not so
much that I can help her, but I think that we can help each other in
learning more about ourselves.
Jack
> Does anyone have experience with this?
Wow. I'm an SO, and my wife, as have 95% of people with DID, suffered
childhood sexual abuse. We have experienced some alters acting against
the interest of the system, but not to the extent to which you have
experienced. I'm not an expert. I'm more or less working at this alone,
and learning how to live with DID rather than "treat" it.
Is your therapist experienced with DID?
-Wayne
I'm afraid to kiss my girlfriend, who has DID, or even make any
sudden movements around her. She was sexually abused as a child, and
I'm afraid any intimacy on my part will trigger or possibly
retraumatize her. I'm not afraid of <i>her</i> hurting <i>me</i>;
rather, I'm afraid of her hurting herself. I've witnessed an alter
chop off her lovely black hair, and I've seen the cuts on her wrists,
the word "DIRT" carved on her beautiful white legs. I love her so
much, and want to do something, but don't know what. Does anybody
have any advice for me?
Hi, I have been looking to people to talk to - and found your
board....my partner lives with mpd, and I am trying to get my
feelings in order to keep feelings separate. Although I have been
dealing with it for quite a while...one of the personalities...named
Jeff...has just come to terms with his feelings for me...and I feel
guilty..for having separate relations with him. I have talked to my
partner about it, and she is comfortable with sharing me...but I am
not. Jeff has a history of violence and anger...and in a way I am
afraid to cut ties because of this...but in another way I feel
curious about him, and want to get to know more about his feelings
and thought process. I am feeling very frustrated with myself...my
partner knows she should probably talk to someone about it...but she
does not want to be put on medication (she has had history with that
and hospitalization as a teenager). Is there anyone else who has felt
the way I have...if so, how have you deal with it?
I talked in a chatroom earlier, and they told me I should not
encourage it...but I dont know how to cut ties off with Jeff...he is
still a part of her. I don't want to push any part of her away.
I am sorry for the long letter. Would love to get feedback from
others. Thanks.
**** BEWARE - THIS COULD BE TOO INTENSE FOR SOME ****
I apologize in advance to anyone with an alter family inside who
accidentally reads this. Please be aware that I will be asking a
question that could be traumatic for some to read.
My spouse is once again hospitalized to keep her safe as she is
feeling extremely suicidal. An ongoing challenge has been dealing
with one of her alters, a male one, that is tormeting the others. He
is an imprint of one of the primary abusers and has been threatening
my spouse's therapist with bodily harm to him and his family.
Furthermore, he has "killed" some of the other alters as a way to get
back at the therapist.
I don't know what the implications are of one alter killing another.
When I think of it as a "single", it would seem that my wife
struggling with some of the worst parts of her long-term abuse and
coming to grips with the huge pain that is being unearthed in her
recovery process. Perhaps she is so horrified at the realization that
she is fighting with herself to avoid it.
Does anyone have experience with this?
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Hello,
I'm wondering if this list is still active or not.
I am multiple, my partner would like support or even a sense of not being
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Hi Sufia,
Here are some yahoo groups for SO's like myself. In the message that
follows this one, I'll post ALL of the groups on yahoo concerning MPD/DID:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sosupport
This group is hyper-active. However, although the group is supposed to
mainly support SO's, it seems to be mainly DID's posting. There are a
lot of SO's in the group, however. I have found it a bit sensitive for
genuine discussions among SO's because it often triggers some of the
DID's. It will definitely keep your message area full.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/livingmultiple
This is a very friendly and informative group, I've found. Both my
wife (who is DID), and I (as an SO) have found it very informative and
supportive. The thing is the insight given by the alters and people
with DID has proven quite helpful to me as an SO in this group.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/abusesurvivorswithmpdordid
For anyone who is an abuse survivor, who has MPD or DID or who is a
Significant Other (SO) of someone who is. Pretty good too.
I'm an SO, Sufia... these are the groups I belong to.
In the next message I'll post all of the DID/MPD groups currently
listed on yahoo.
-Wayne
Sufia wrote:
Hi, everyone,
I remember seeing some mention(s) of some more active groups for SOs
of people with DID. I did some searching but haven't found much of
anything. Could any of you direct me to a group--Yahoo or otherwise?
Thanks.
Hi Sufia,
Here are some yahoo groups for SO's like myself:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sosupport
This group is hyper-active. However, although the group is supposed to
mainly support SO's, it seems to be mainly DID's posting. There are a
lot of SO's in the group, however. I have found it a bit sensitive for
genuine discussions among SO's because it often triggers some of the
DID's. It will definitely keep your message area full.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/livingmultiple
This is a very friendly and informative group, I've found. Both my wife
(who is DID), and I (as an SO) have found it very informative and
supportive. The thing is the insight given by the alters and people with
DID has proven quite helpful to me as an SO in this group.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/abusesurvivorswithmpdordid
For anyone who is an abuse survivor, who has MPD or DID or who is a
Significant Other (SO) of someone who is. Pretty good too.
I'm an SO, Sufia... these are the groups I belong to.
In the next message I'll post all of the DID/MPD groups currently listed
on yahoo.
-Wayne
Sufia wrote:
> Hi, everyone,
>
> I remember seeing some mention(s) of some more active groups for SOs
> of people with DID. I did some searching but haven't found much of
> anything. Could any of you direct me to a group--Yahoo or otherwise?
> Thanks.
Hi, everyone,
I remember seeing some mention(s) of some more active groups for SOs
of people with DID. I did some searching but haven't found much of
anything. Could any of you direct me to a group--Yahoo or otherwise?
Thanks.
Peace,
Sufia
Welcome, DragonRidr,
I'm 50, my wife is 45, and she has DID too. We've only known about DID
for about three or four months, but she's had it since childhood in all
probability, though I am the first man in her life that has discovered
it. A most striking condition, DID.
About two months ago I figured out there must be support groups for
spouses of DID's.... and thus I found this an other yahoo groups.
I'm sure you'll find a lot of support here.
-Wayne
Dragon wrote:
HI i wanted to do the intro thing to get it over with and to let
every one know that there is a real person behind this name, i am the
SO and other to a lady that has DID. we are not in what some would
call a normal relashinship but then what is normal.
if any one wishes to know feel free to ask i will awnser any
questions put too me. and may ask some real tough ones back.....
btw i am 44+ and my girl is 32+ lol our bdays are only 3 days apart
wich is sweet......
at moment we have only been toghter since november and do not live
toghter yet but is what i want as soon as we can work it out.
thanks
DragonRidr
Hi DragonRidr. Welcome to the group. This particular groups is not very active
but there are a few of us here who have communicated. There are a couple of
other groups which are far more vigorous. Anyway, I understand what you mean
about what is normal. I am married to a DID with 15 (so far alters). I am 50,
she is 49. Her alters range from 3 to 20...all with completely different
personalities, problems and needs. To make things VERY interesting....while my
wife is a very straight, conservative, moral type person, we have an 18-year old
party animal alter who just wants to go out and have fun. She is especially
interested in the BDSM lifestyle, and we caught her sneaking into chat rooms and
cybering...which of course brought my wife to near hysteria. It has been
extremely challenging living with someone with DID, but I love my wife and all
of her parts and am willing to undergo whatever it is she needs from me. I am
working to get to know all the alters individually. Some rarely come out, some
I have met only once, and some come out almost every day. I am not sure what
all completely lies beneath the surface there. Anyway, welcome and perhaps we
can chat sometime. My yahoo ID is rampartranger50 and you can catch me on IM
during the week usually. Jeff
Dragon <bronzedragonridr@...> wrote:HI i wanted to do the intro thing to
get it over with and to let
every one know that there is a real person behind this name, i am the
SO and other to a lady that has DID. we are not in what some would
call a normal relashinship but then what is normal.
if any one wishes to know feel free to ask i will awnser any
questions put too me. and may ask some real tough ones back.....
btw i am 44+ and my girl is 32+ lol our bdays are only 3 days apart
wich is sweet......
at moment we have only been toghter since november and do not live
toghter yet but is what i want as soon as we can work it out.
thanks
DragonRidr
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HI i wanted to do the intro thing to get it over with and to let
every one know that there is a real person behind this name, i am the
SO and other to a lady that has DID. we are not in what some would
call a normal relashinship but then what is normal.
if any one wishes to know feel free to ask i will awnser any
questions put too me. and may ask some real tough ones back.....
btw i am 44+ and my girl is 32+ lol our bdays are only 3 days apart
wich is sweet......
at moment we have only been toghter since november and do not live
toghter yet but is what i want as soon as we can work it out.
thanks
DragonRidr
Well, since the group here isn't that active these days, and I'm new
anyway, I'd like to say something about the responsibilities of an SO
toward a person with DID.
I think that in order to be an SO, you have to be an amazing person, and
my hat is off to all of you wonderful SO's out there. I am also
personally thankful to have met so many new friends by which I can share
my amazing journey.
I call the SO's life a journey, because much is written about case
studies of persons with DID, but not much is written about the amazing
journey of the significant others and spouses of persons with DID. I
have had some of the most astounding adventures, and have met new and
interesting people, all within the person of my wife. And I find that
fascinating.
There are a number of other yahoo groups offering support for SO's and
DID's which I now belong to, and I have found the discussions
educational and enlightening.
Just some thoughts.
-Wayne
Dear Jeff,
Thanks for the story. I think the journey of the Significant Other
in a relationship with a person with MPD is, in many ways, as
difficult or even more difficult than it is for the person with MPD.
Of course, that's obviously not true in every instance. Many
relationships have been seriously damaged because of an alter, and
this affects the host personality greatly. But it is the significant
other that gets to meet all of these alternate personalities, talk
with them, and learn to come to terms with them.
It's a long journey, and a difficult journey. It seems to require a
lot of determination and understanding, which you obviously have.
I'm glad that there is some more activity in this group. I hope to
take time to explore some other groups offering support for SO's.
Sincerely, Wayne
Hi Wayne,
Ho, have I got a story for you! Anyway, I just
finished reading a book about a woman with MPD, whose
core personality married an abusive man, but one of
the alters never considered herself married to him,
and ended up divorcing him. Oddly enough, she marched
right into the lawyer's office, told her straight out
what the deal was, and the lawyer drew up the papers
without flinching for a minute.
My wife presents me with an interesting challenge.
She herself is a very conservative, evangelical
Christian. We are both almost 50. However, she has
an 18-year old alter who is a party-animal with almost
no spiritual convictions and no moral boundaries.
When I met my wife, she only knew about one alter, a
4-year old, who came to view me as safe and came out
quite frequently. In the last year, 11 others have
manifested, each seemingly carrying some portion of
the abuse and hurt my wife experienced as a child.
The younger children usually just need reassurance
that the "bad men" are no longer out to get them, and
that they are safe with me. The recalcitrant teenager
is presenting us with quite a challange. She has been
up surfing the net and visiting chat rooms, and
basically being a typical brassy, naughty teenager.
It is a precarious balancing act. It's almost
legalized bigamy in a way. I do treat them as
completely distinct personalities, inhabiting one
body, since this is the way they want to be treated.
I am trying to get all the alters co-conscious and
cooperative which has been a challenge.
Sometimes I do treat all of them as if we are one
large family. I have referred to the place we all
live as the "orphanage" where God has placed the
children to be safe, and where the bad men can't get
them. What is both amazing and unsetting to me, is
that some of the littles are able to tap into my
wife's ability to do things such as drive, make phone
calls and write email. It is disconcerting getting a
phone call from a 4-year old driving down an
interstate utterly lost, or the 5-year old who called
me up and told me she just joined the "Y". Also, the
18-year old starting to rack up traffic tickets for
which unfortunately my wife and I get to foot the
bill.
Twilight zone indeed. I never would have believed
this in my wildest dreams were I not living it as
daily reality.
Jeff
--- mwb53tx <mwb53tx@...> wrote:
> Jeff, I know exactly what you mean.
>
> Interestingly, in my case, I actually married one of
> my wife's
> alters before either of us knew about MPD. Later, as
> things
> progressed, I discovered who the host was, and
> fortunately, we get
> along just fine! It's been a real adventure of
> getting to know
> someone all over again. So when you mentioned the
> Twilight Zone, I
> smiled. No one would believe this if they didn't
> know about DID.
>
> We've been able to identify seven distinct
> personalities, two of
> whom doen't even know they are married to me, but
> whom I've only met
> once. But as the husband, I am supportive, and I
> love all of "them"
> as disassociative parts of the one complete girl. I
> have learned a
> lot. Sometimes it's fascinating. Sometimes it's
> frustrating. But
> nice to know there are others in my position out
> there.
>
> Sincerely, Wayne
>
>
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Jeff, I know exactly what you mean.
Interestingly, in my case, I actually married one of my wife's
alters before either of us knew about MPD. Later, as things
progressed, I discovered who the host was, and fortunately, we get
along just fine! It's been a real adventure of getting to know
someone all over again. So when you mentioned the Twilight Zone, I
smiled. No one would believe this if they didn't know about DID.
We've been able to identify seven distinct personalities, two of
whom doen't even know they are married to me, but whom I've only met
once. But as the husband, I am supportive, and I love all of "them"
as disassociative parts of the one complete girl. I have learned a
lot. Sometimes it's fascinating. Sometimes it's frustrating. But
nice to know there are others in my position out there.
Sincerely, Wayne
Hey! I just joined this group, as you know, and my wife and I just
happened to look at the bouncing list. Bouncers are people who
belong to a group, but when the group mail is sent to them the email
bounces.
This group has 89 members and 79 of them are bouncing. That means
there are only presently 10 active members.
Bouncing members must be managed by the moderator, otherwise after
some time yahoo goes through and elimates groups with a high
percentage of bouncers. They do this because sending email to
bouncers is a problem and clogs up yahoo's servers.
I know this, because I also own a group, and I have to manage the
bouncers myself. You can get your bouncers down sometimes by sending
a reactivation request.
Sincerely, Wayne
Hi. My name is Jeff, and my wife has DID. She has
(so far anyway) 12 alters ranging in age from 3 to 18.
I am a member of a number of SO support groups, some
of which are VERY active, and some not so much. I do
recommend getting involved in a support group, because
being a SO of a DID is very challenging and often
frustrating. I love my wife and "the children" very
much, but living with someone with DID, as you all
know can be extremely daunting. It's good sometimes
to know we are not the only ones going through what we
are going through. Sometimes it all seems like a
dream, sometimes like play-acting, and sometimes like
an episode from Twilight Zone or a Stephen King novel.
I think you all know what I'm talking about.
Jeff
--- mwb53tx <mwb53tx@...> wrote:
> Hello everyone. I am the husband of a wonderful girl
> who has DID.
> Just to let you know there are spouses here. I
> joined to read and
> share notes with other spouses, and to ask questions
> and learn.
>
> -Wayne
>
>
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Hello everyone. I am the husband of a wonderful girl who has DID.
Just to let you know there are spouses here. I joined to read and
share notes with other spouses, and to ask questions and learn.
-Wayne
I guess that is one way to look at it.
--- In mpdspouses@yahoogroups.com, "delian47" <feral@b...> wrote:
> i am DID and experiencing healing profoundly. as for complete
> intergration, my response is that even singletons are not
completely
> integrated. i believe every indivudal is multifaceted to greater
or
> lesser degeree, and that full integration of all of ones
perspectives
> or viewpoints is a work of a life time.
>
> deb
>
> --- In mpdspouses@yahoogroups.com, setfree7 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > anybody here know anybody who has completely integrated? or
> anybody
> > here who has completely integrated?
i am DID and experiencing healing profoundly. as for complete
intergration, my response is that even singletons are not completely
integrated. i believe every indivudal is multifaceted to greater or
lesser degeree, and that full integration of all of ones perspectives
or viewpoints is a work of a life time.
deb
--- In mpdspouses@yahoogroups.com, setfree7 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> anybody here know anybody who has completely integrated? or
anybody
> here who has completely integrated?