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good_master_thor (12:40:06 AM): Hey SGX.......How Ya doing??
sadistic_guardianx (1:27:12 AM): hey there. sorry didn't see you pop
up. was in the kitchen.
good_master_thor (1:27:21 AM): mmm food
good_master_thor (1:27:48 AM): How's it going?
sadistic_guardianx (1:28:45 AM): Actually, not food, but opening
bills, sorting through them, and deciding what needs to be done while
I have my two days off.
good_master_thor (1:28:56 AM): yuck.....hate bills
sadistic_guardianx (1:29:14 AM): I do all the financial management
around here.
good_master_thor (1:29:29 AM): I hate it so I let robin take care of
it......
sadistic_guardianx (1:29:51 AM): so what's up? you PM'd me.
good_master_thor (1:30:04 AM): She said I should........lol
good_master_thor (1:30:12 AM): Never did say why though....
sadistic_guardianx (1:30:32 AM): perhaps it had something to do with mpd?
good_master_thor (1:31:13 AM): Could be......She told Me last
night.........I have had 2 close friends with mpd....So I am very
familiar with it.
sadistic_guardianx (1:33:27 AM): I never heard of it before I met her.
It was some time into our relationship when she herself began to
suspect that she had it. It didn't take long to realize she did. a
long story. it's been something she's lived with, without realizing
it, since she was a very young girl.
good_master_thor (1:34:09 AM): That happens.....How many of Her alters
have you met that you know of?
sadistic_guardianx (1:37:29 AM): I used to keep a file on my laptop
documenting the different personalities. I've counted and met about
25, one or two of whom don't even know who I am... one even was
convinced that she lived in Virginia Beach, and that I must have
kidnapped her. However, there are only a few that I deal with on a
regular basis. The actual core person is Shelly, a name I gave her.
she's the one I deal with most of the time. But there are children,
there is a protectress, there is a controller. very interesting stuff.
I believe the one you deal with most of the time is rain.
good_master_thor (1:38:27 AM): So rain is an alter?? How old is she??
She thinks I may have met one called carla also.....
sadistic_guardianx (1:43:17 AM): well.... you know no one knows her
better than I, and I also joined several mpd support groups for
awhile. An alter.... no one in there thinks they're an alter. No one
in there thinks they have multiple personalities except shelly. Each
is convinced they are not an alter. And in fact, none of the alters,
per se, have MPD.... they are not multiple personalities. They are
single personalities within a greater psyche.... this is "their"
reality.... rain is an alter. But she's shared a great deal with
shelly, who must have told you about mpd. carla is the gorean slave.
rain is the bdsm slave. shelly is a submissive wife. and then there's
Amber, or Mistress Amber, the protectress, who I'm sure you've met
when she gets angry. For each of these personalities, this is complete
reality.
good_master_thor (1:44:59 AM): Nods...yep..Same with My
friends.......I have sat and talked with 60 year old Men and 4 year
old lil girls.....Thankfully they would tell Me when they would switich
sadistic_guardianx (1:47:17 AM): Yes. Though it is common in DID (the
correct name for MPD) to have both male and female personalities, all
of Shelly's alters as far as I have met are female. Each has a unique
personality. Each has blank spots in memory. Unexplained memory and
time losses as one personality "goes inside"
sadistic_guardianx (1:47:22 AM): hmmm.
sadistic_guardianx (1:47:37 AM): she's telling me, "with Thor everyone
gets a chance"
sadistic_guardianx (1:47:42 AM): Amber is talking now.
good_master_thor (1:47:57 AM): Is she saying I 'm easy???? LOL
sadistic_guardianx (1:48:02 AM): no, no.
sadistic_guardianx (1:48:23 AM): As far as I know, a person with MPD
has a "system"
sadistic_guardianx (1:48:51 AM): the system is a compartmentalized
brain that developed to cope with early life trauma, usually sexual
trauma.
sadistic_guardianx (1:49:16 AM): each compartment of the brain has
it's own memory, likes, dislikes.
sadistic_guardianx (1:49:47 AM): with some people, as with you,
there's a general consensus in the system. "they" like you.
sadistic_guardianx (1:50:00 AM): and so multiple personalities emerge
good_master_thor (1:50:00 AM): Gotcha
sadistic_guardianx (1:50:18 AM): Shelly had two failed marriages
before me.
good_master_thor (1:50:19 AM): So others may get a chance to come out
and meet Me...
sadistic_guardianx (1:50:25 AM): both due to mpd, we suppose.
sadistic_guardianx (1:50:45 AM): Amber, the Protectress and Dominant
one, will be the one who will argue with you
good_master_thor (1:50:53 AM): oh goody
sadistic_guardianx (1:51:10 AM): she is the one I'm learning now, that
mainly deals with you
sadistic_guardianx (1:52:05 AM): my advice to you is don't get caught
up in wondering what personalities are there.
sadistic_guardianx (1:52:18 AM): treat her as a whole person, as
you've been doing.
good_master_thor (1:52:52 AM): Nods....only that concerns Me........I
don't want to be in a room or pm cussing up a storm and have a lil one
pop in and not tell Me...
sadistic_guardianx (1:54:45 AM): There are three main little ones.
Each has a name. The main one is melody. She is 9 years old and is the
system "spy"... she always says, "no body tells me nothing" but she
knows everything that's going on with the other personalities. she's
always there, a mischeivous little spy girl. Then there's two other
younger girls, less prominent, more childlike.
sadistic_guardianx (1:55:25 AM): so you might deal with melody
sometimes. the other little one's don't know how to use a computer.
sadistic_guardianx (1:55:34 AM): but melody, I'm sure, knows
everything about you.
good_master_thor (1:55:40 AM): Trust Me.....they learn....LOL
sadistic_guardianx (1:56:01 AM): brb... she wants me to fill her in...
good_master_thor (1:56:06 AM): kk
sadistic_guardianx (2:02:22 AM): okay, I'm back.
good_master_thor (2:02:32 AM): kk
sadistic_guardianx (2:02:37 AM): I believe her past failed marriages
were due to mpd.
sadistic_guardianx (2:02:51 AM): different personalities emerged, and
things happened.
good_master_thor (2:03:00 AM): makes sense.....not alot of people know
or understand or even believe in it
sadistic_guardianx (2:03:19 AM): no one could understand what was
happening. even she could not understand why the relationships failed.
sadistic_guardianx (2:03:29 AM): people would tell her she did things
that she did not remember.
sadistic_guardianx (2:04:02 AM): like the time she threw a lanturn at
Randy, and his pants caught on fire. Shelly and rain do not remember.
Amber says, "he deserved it."
good_master_thor (2:04:15 AM): oh great...lol
sadistic_guardianx (2:06:05 AM): I live with it. Over time I came to
realize it just wasn't that important. At first I absorbed myself in
it.... and as time went by I even got depressed... feeling lonely. But
I got over that. Each personality has a unique relationship with me.
And therefore, I also allow "them" to get online, and have online
relationships without feeling threatened.
sadistic_guardianx (2:07:28 AM): Mostly I ignore which personality is
"out" at the time. I just talk with her like a normal person, and she
responds. But sometimes, like just before going to bed, melody comes
out very distintintly. I know it's melody, because she always calls
me, "Mister Man"... and becomes very playful.
good_master_thor (2:07:56 AM): Totally understand......I have read
alot of the books and case histories on it...but I always treated each
just like I would you....each one is a special person....and I showed
them that in the way I was around them...lil ones are sooo cute
sadistic_guardianx (2:11:09 AM): The little ones are the oldest ones,
if that makes sense. As far as I can see from my personal observation
and what I've learned, each personality emerged at a particular point
in life to branch out to deal with a terrible trauma. That's why it's
called DID these days, disassociative identity disorder, the correct
medical term. To deal with a trauma, a person sometimes detaches him
or herself. Sometimes they create an alternate reality to deal with
the situation until it's over. Since that works so well, in the
future, any traumatic situation or really really important situation
may later spin off another alter. Each alter seems stuck in time, at
the same age as the age they were originally spawned.
good_master_thor (2:12:07 AM): nods...yep.....I know I should use
DID....just stuck with the old habit of mpd...
sadistic_guardianx (2:14:01 AM): Amber is 16 years old. rain is
older.... I'm not sure how old. carla is about the same age as Amber.
Melody is 9. But behind all of this there is the original person.
That's Shelly, aka Charlotte Jean Eikmeir, her birthname.
sadistic_guardianx (2:14:23 AM): correction, Amber is 17.
sadistic_guardianx (2:14:32 AM): there was a marriage scheduled.
sadistic_guardianx (2:14:38 AM): two young people were to be wed.
sadistic_guardianx (2:14:42 AM): people were invited
sadistic_guardianx (2:14:47 AM): invitations sent
sadistic_guardianx (2:14:55 AM): hundreds of invitations.
sadistic_guardianx (2:15:00 AM): a big church wedding.
sadistic_guardianx (2:15:07 AM): and the guy ran away
sadistic_guardianx (2:15:19 AM): Amber was born to make the phone
calls to tell everyone not to come.
good_master_thor (2:15:56 AM): you mean I may have at one point been
bitched out by a 17 year old girl??? Great...
sadistic_guardianx (2:16:51 AM): Well, Amber has an important position
in the "system" .... She has become the protectress AND the
gatekeeper. She decides who may "come out" and who may not.
good_master_thor (2:17:36 AM): kk....I am used to that.......I was
very good friends with a Protector..........They have a huge
responsibility..
sadistic_guardianx (2:17:37 AM): she has online friends, and online
subs. I've seen her screen name on her computer. Mistress Rinnah.
good_master_thor (2:18:28 AM): That is who is supposed to be My
FC........She is a FW of GOR........Mistress Rinnah.......She is
signed on and pming with Me as that
sadistic_guardianx (2:20:43 AM): Amber is a wonderful person... who
over time - after a very rocky beginning, has developed a great
relationship with me. Yes, well, now you know about Amber, aka
Mistress Rinnah. But know for certain, that as far as She's concerned,
She is a person all to herself. She is NOT rain. rain is NOT Mistress
Rinnah. Nor do either of them necessarily know what the other is doing
or saying.
sadistic_guardianx (2:20:47 AM): honest to goodness.
good_master_thor (2:21:42 AM): Cool with Me...........I won't worry
about it unless they decide to bring it up or tell Me
something.......easier that way
sadistic_guardianx (2:23:26 AM): ignore it, but if one of them PM's
you under a name, and it can be at the same time you're having a
conversation with her under another name, assume another alter wants
to talk with you and treat her as a completely unique person. All I
can say about that. When switching happens back and forth like that,
Shelly winds up with a big headache. Right in the middle of her
forehead. It's a switching headache.
sadistic_guardianx (2:24:14 AM): she told me tonight, that she was
really worried that she'd told you about MPD. she didn't want you to
disappear.
good_master_thor (2:24:38 AM): Not a prob......I am used to
it.......each one is a different person to Me anyway so will not be a
problem.....I am not the type to run cause of something like this....
sadistic_guardianx (2:24:45 AM): Here's something to think about....
know about computers?
good_master_thor (2:24:54 AM): yep
sadistic_guardianx (2:26:46 AM): Well, the newest computers have a lot
of memory and very fast processors, so they can multitask. Older
computers don't multitask as well. This psychological condition DID
generally develops in people with exceptional intelligence. They can
compartmentalize their brain - multitasking personalities. Shelly's IQ
is 158.... considered a genius.
sadistic_guardianx (2:29:21 AM): Hope that helps. Good luck, and know
that as far as I'm concerned, I have absolutely no "envy" or feel she
is cheating. In fact, as far as some of the girls in that system,
"swinging" with more than one man is perfectly acceptable.





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good_master_thor (12:40:06 AM): Hey SGX.......How Ya doing?? sadistic_guardianx (1:27:12 AM): hey there. sorry didn't see you pop up. was in the kitchen. ...
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this is really valid and accurate information from my perspective. i am concerned though that people might think because one DID system is ok with "swinging"...
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Deb Thank you for this disclosure. It was wonderful to read such common sense. I am a therapist and know someone personally who is DID. I have found that ...
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