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Imminent Danger of Worldwide Supplement Ban (CODEX)   Message List  
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Re: Imminent Danger of Worldwide Supplement Ban (CODEX)

Paul's quote :

<<the end result of fully adopting it and regulating accordingly would
be so very harmful to the health and life extension potential of
everyone in the country of adoption.>>


**In the event that such regulations get adopted and regulated
accordingly in both Canada and in the U.S. what are you and Kitty and
all of us going to do for supplements ? I'm asking both of you,
because of all people I know who are on a supplement regimen, no one
takes as many as you do, which I reckon you'd wish to go on using.**

Marc Boucher
Rivičre-du-Loup, Quebec
Canada.

[Although this is an unlikely happening, IMO, and I do not usually
answer hypothetical questions, I will answer this one because it is
certainly possible and would be very important to address if it did
happen.

If it happened mainly in Canada, then I would continue doing as now -
bringing all my supplements into Canada from the US. If that became
impossible, then I would emigrate to the US.

If CODEX also became implemented in the US, my actions would depend on
just how strongly it was implemented and thus whether I could still
get what I needed, albeit with more difficulty, perhaps from some
other countries where it was not eliminated, just as now some
chemicals can be directly procured offshore. If I could not get what I
needed (and then many others also could not) by any legal and open
means, then I expect that large underground operations in supplements
production and distribution would be created, and I would buy from one
or more of them. Unfortunately any such operation would likely have
many of the negatives of the current black market supply of drugs and
the supply of alcohol in the US during the prohibition era. When
governments severely restrict things that people are determined to
have, the people will still get them, but at a far higher price and
with far less quality control. --Paul]

[When governments declare an item or service illegal, they are as much
putting out a big "Welcome" sign to those who are unscrupulous and
would not hesitate to use whatever harmful means exist to create and
maintain what they view as their part of "the market". This does not
mean that every person who has provided or does now provide
underground products or services uses violent measures to get or keep
customers - not at all! But the ones that do are the big players, get
lots of publicity as a result of the enormous amounts of taxpayer
money spent supposedly to eradicate them. This last is ludicrous since
the clear way to eliminate the violence associated with illegal items
and services is to remove the illegal label associated with them. But
I contend that it is a goal of government to expand itself and adding
more enforcers of even more laws is a perfect way to do it - all the
while crying that they are "protecting the public".

When interactions for trade of any good or services can take place
openly without interference from governments, there is no market for
the Mafia or any other group of thugs. As it is, I suspect that a fair
amount of money or other value is provided to certain politicians
and/or bureaucrats, from those who want to maintain their trade in
currently illegal items, to keep prohibition laws in effect. And
similarly, I suspect that there is a great deal of interest, by these
same violence using illegal traders, to promoting the prohibition of
even more items that people want. This would obviously increase their
business and the fact that they could also charge enormous fees
because of the reduced number of suppliers, would put even more money
in their pockets.

Government intervention in the trade between people will always
distort the market with respect to both prices and availability! And
it will also make inevitable a certain amount of violence, adding more
harm to the lives of people. **Kitty]



Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:15 am

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... <snip by Ólafur> ... I would like to add that you can go to the link below and sign a petition which opposes the ban. You can sign it online and it takes...
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Based on the following snippet I got from the Alliance for Natural Health - a British non-profit who has formally filed protest with the EU - I would say this...
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Hi all, Recently, I've been hearing again and again about Bill C-51 in Canada indirectly related to Codex Alimentarius I'm sure. Even in the U.S. the same...
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Paul's quote : <<the end result of fully adopting it and regulating accordingly would be so very harmful to the health and life extension potential of everyone...
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... <snip> ... <snip> ... <snip> ... Clarification is warranted re. the above bills S.722 and HR3377, both of which were introduced in the first session of the...
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... I have horrible news to tell. According to LEFs newsletter today the EU supplement directive has been upheld. ...
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... <olafurpall@y...> wrote: <snip by Ólafur> ... Here is a link to the section of the Alliance for Natural Health site which contains their contact...
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It would be best for you to post your questions about the applicability of CODEX to Canada and US to MoreLife Yahoo. There are very likely others, who like...
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