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Re: 4 oz wine mid-fast

"David Thomas Jackemeyer" <Olehenry1@...> wrote:
>Hi Paul and Kitty,
>
>I eat all of my calories once per day from 7:30am to 10am.
>
>[This is a change, since I know that you were eating your once daily
>meal in the evening just over a month ago. Is this related to the
>change from classes to summer work? --Paul]

Yes, now I wake at 6am, exercise at 7am (alternating 1hr and 1/2hr
times at the gym), eat roughly between 7:30am and 10am, and finally to
work at 10am which lasts till 6:30pm.

[Ok. That makes sense. --Paul]

>I have not found good information answering this concern of mine:
>Whether having 4 oz of red wine (no other intake) just before
>bedtime (9:00pm) would negate the positive effects of:
>1) the fasting period
>
> [Definitely yes. 4oz of red wine (even totally dry) would contain
>about 100 calories, which is not insignificant and will negate many
>of the beneficial effects of the fast for a short period. Intake of
>wine during the fasting period will also enhance the potential
>negative dietary effects of the alcohol in the wine. --Paul]

OK. Since 10% of the calories in my Merlot wine are from sugar, the
remainder from alcohol, I had thought possibly my blood glucose levels
remain stable while the liver took care of metabolizing the alcohol.
You mention intake of alcohol during fasting enhances the potential
negatives, above the impact sustained when drinking with foods -- how
much worse would you predict?

[I am away on a trip right now without access to all my research "tools" so I
cannot easily give any answer to this at the moment. However, I will later plan
to do some work on the metabolism of alcohol and get back to this thread with
information on it. OTOH, if Olafur reads this message, perhaps he could answer
and save me the effort. --Paul]

> 2) important sleep processes
>
> [Likely the neurological effects will help sleep onset, but the
>metabolic effects will more than likely be negative for biochemical
>processes occurring during sleep. --Paul]

Thank you for your input -- I do not want to interrupt beneficial
biochemical processes during sleep!

> 3) other?
>
> [I can think of no other negatives from use of wine at this time of
>your daily cycle. OTOH, if you are not taking it in the morning with
>your daily meal, I think your logic may be wrong. If you are
>concerned about driving or working after drinking wine, then I think
>that you need not be, particularly if you drink it during the first
>half of your large daily meal and even more particularly if you drink
>some stimulating coffee or tea during the rest of the meal and during
>the following daytime. Under these circumstances I think that it is
>highly unlikely that such a small amount of wine will have any
>negative effects on your competence and behavior during the ensuing
>daytime hours. --Paul]

You are correct regarding my subjective experience, especially if I
drink the wine after ingesting any other foods/drinks, I feel no loss
of coordination or sluggishness of thought.
FYI, I alternate between these three: wine, Trader Joe's Grape Juice,
and raisins for my grape source.

[Then I expect that you will now start taking all of these in the morning since
they will all interrupt your fast. --Paul]

Warmly,
"Jack" emeyer

> Thanks,
> David Jackemeyer
> Tempe, AZ
> ASU student





Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:51 am

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Hi Paul and Kitty, I eat all of my calories once per day from 7:30am to 10am. [This is a change, since I know that you were eating your once daily meal in the...
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... Yes, now I wake at 6am, exercise at 7am (alternating 1hr and 1/2hr times at the gym), eat roughly between 7:30am and 10am, and finally to work at 10am...
David Thomas Jackemeyer
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... <snip> ... I am not sure how you got the idea that the liver's act of metabolizing the alcohol would somehow keep the blood sugar stable. Anyways, drinking...
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... <olafurpall@...> ... I'm not sure I understand the dosage figure (maybe I've mixed up with the sugar calculation above): My red wine contains 12% of...
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... I am not sure why you are asking above whether or not your calculation is correct. However, it may be a little off for the following reason. Perhaps the...
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Note that I am responding to this message again partly because I got mixed up and wrote a response before I realized that I had already responded previously,...
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