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Impact of reduced meal frequency w/o CR on glucose regulation in hum   Message List  
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Re: Impact of reduced meal frequency w/o CR on glucose regulation in humans

Williams, Deane G HS wrote:
> Mike Leake wrote:
>
>> Additionally, I dropped a couple of pounds
>> that I'd somehow gained during the experiment once I resumed eating
>> breakfast. Coincidence? Perhaps. But if nothing else, it shows that
>> results from fasting or modified fasting can vary.
>>
>
> I have read that Sumo wrestlers gain weight by skipping breakfast and
> eating a light lunch and heavy supper.

This makes sense to me because, when digesting the food during the
night, the body will have more tendency to turn it into fat and glycogen
(to store it) since it is not needed to energize the body. The way to
not gain weight is to eat only as much in the one meal as will then be
entirely used before the next meal. I would bet that, after not eating
all day, Mike was extra hungry at night and actually ate a little more
total food calories than he had on three meals-per-day. Either that or
he had less energy earlier in the day (with less food in him) and burned
fewer calories through exercise.

> Maybe there is more to breakfast than generally thought.
>
> Deane Williams
>

Until I began eating only once daily (only 11 months ago), I had always
been hungry immediately after rising and eaten a substantial breakfast,
which I thought from my personal experience and reading was the most
important meal of the day. (I expect there are old posts of mine stating
this.) However, now that I eat a large meal starting abut 6 hours
after arising, I have very little hunger then and any that I have is
easily satisfied by a combination of our morning supplements and the
tea combination that I drink immediately afterwards and throughout the
day.

Upon thinking about it, it seems to me that originally humans, as
hunter/gatherers, likely only ate at the end of the day after they had
completed their acquisition of food and brought it back to be shared
with the entire group. This would be particularly the case since they
had inadequate means to store those types of food. In fact, I wonder
just when, during the process of change from hunter/gatherer to
agriculture and market trade, humans adopted the three meals a day
regimen. If anyone has historical or archaeological information
bearing on this last point, I would be interested to see it.

--Paul

[I think others need to be clear about the timing of our meals in relationship
to our sleeping and awakening.

We go to sleep quite late - most often about 2am but its not unusual for it to
be 3 or 3:30am before turning off the lights. (This is partly maintained this
way because of our late dancing nights, but also because of Paul's tendency to
be more productive and least sleepy late in his waking period.) Occasionally we
retire earlier if we've had a shorter sleep the night before purposefully
because we had a specific purpose to be up and about early that morning.
Normally though, we awaken anywhere from 9:30 to 11:00 depending on when we
actually fell asleep. (I do my exercises, letting Paul linger in bed a bit
longer.) Our non-food pills are taken shortly thereafter and our meal begins
typically about 6 to 7 hours later, extending for usually 4 hours. The last of
our dessert is usually consumed no less than 3 hours before actual sleep for me
(who cannot eat so much at once), but usually 5 hours before sleep for Paul (who
sometimes actually feels a bit hungry again just before sleep - something that
actually inhibits me from sleeping, but does not bother him). During the rest of
the time before sleep we drink tea (usually sage within the last hour). **Kitty]



Wed Jan 2, 2008 7:31 pm

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[Note: I have abbreviated the title (as the abstract title, it had been truncated) and cleaned up the formatting. --Paul] The following abstract (I've not seen...
Max Watt
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... Thanks for posting this interesting and pertinent abstract. However, I think that the researchers made a major error by not measuring the parameters for...
Paul Wakfer
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... crossover ... 11-week ... performing ... per ... I am in agreement with Paul here. My immediate thought when I first read this abtract (when it was posted...
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... [big snip by Paul] ... I think that the answer as to why they did not design the study correctly in the first place is that they simply did not think of...
Paul Wakfer
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... [snip] ... next ... have ... time ... I did some self-experimentation awhile back involving meal frequency that yielded unexpected results for me involving...
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... I have read that Sumo wrestlers gain weight by skipping breakfast and eating a light lunch and heavy supper. Maybe there is more to breakfast than...
Williams, Deane G ...
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Jan 2, 2008
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... This makes sense to me because, when digesting the food during the night, the body will have more tendency to turn it into fat and glycogen (to store it)...
Paul Wakfer
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Jan 2, 2008
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Funny you would mention the 3-meal-aday history as I just came across this site the other day and found it interesting. I have not checked the sources, but at...
Preston David Wright
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... Thanks Preston, but most of the information at that link is about far too modern times and does not answer the major part of my question, which was more...
Paul Wakfer
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Jan 5, 2008
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... I have been experimenting with water fasting for 36 hours (7PM-7AM) once a week for several months. Every morning I measure my glucose with an Accucheck...
David Saum
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... Hi Dave, Your report is certainly interesting, but I do not plan to spend any time trying to analyze and explain why you got the results that you did for...
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