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Supplements Paul would buy from the LEF, if paying for them.   Message List  
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Re: Supplements Paul would buy from the LEF, if paying for them.

--- In morelife@yahoogroups.com, François ROSE <metformine@...> wrote:
>
> --- In morelife@yahoogroups.com, "chipdouglas3" <dheasulfate@>
> wrote:
> >
> Hi Paul and Kitty
> I hope you are well

Yes, thank you despite recent mishaps to each of us - Paul slipped
while doing structural refurbishment of our dock at the cottage and I
did not pay attention to a step when in Bancroft. Paul's bruise is
nearly gone and my badly scrapped left knee is healing but still sore.
Both of us were quick on the reflexes and so what would likely have
been much more damaging to most others our age has been but an
inconvenience. We both still heal quickly without infection. Paul's
"inconvenience" is several days past, but mine still continues at this
writing - my long pants aren't loose enough not to rub against the bandaided
knee and it's too cool today to do without them ;>)

> I didn't finish my homework about my own experience of one meal
> eater (I wrote three pages but I want to rewrite and add few things)
> and now, I have to deal with the endometriosis of my girlfriend (and
> I really appreciate the idea of "If, in spite of everything, you
> have no recourse but to require the attention of the medical
> establishment, become an expert concerning whatever caused that need
> and reserve all major decision making about your care to yourself. »
> in http://morelife.org/nutshell.html )

I hope that your girlfriend is doing this research and you are
assisting her - since she is the one with the endometriosis.

> I also have to order supplements (I'm lacking of melatonin and I
> usually order all supplements at once in order to pay less
> shipping )

[I am surprised at your mention of melatonin, since I thought that it was not
allowed to be imported or taken without a prescription in all EU countries. You
may answer this privately if you wish. --Paul]

>
> Here's my question:
> In http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/morelife/message/1287
> You talk about N acetyl carnosine (as a non LEF supplement)
> I checked in your Change record and I understand you don't use it
> any more
> And moreover I don't found N acetyl carnosine in your Excel
> spreadsheet, neither in your regimen though there is a whole page
> dedicated to this: http://morelife.org/supplements/NALC.html
> Do you stick only to L-carnosine by now?

Oops.... I made an error and thank you for finding it. Somehow I never
put the NALC on our regimen, despite the fact that we began using it
over a year ago. We started taking N-acetyl-L-carnosine at a nominal
dose of 50 mg daily (1.2 x for Paul, 0.8 for me as we typically do)
and are currently at 300 mg daily and have been since June. I have now
made the correction on our regimen pages which will be included in the
next upload.

While our Excel spreadsheet is mainly for keeping track of those items
that have multiple sources, I have listed several items that are bulk
powders and not from LEF. I'll add the NALC there also.

[The ommission of the NALC from our regimen likely occured because at the time
we started taking it we were also having problems with loose stools. We
temporarily suspended taking it (during our ramp-up phase), but quickly decided
that the NALC was not related to this problem and resumed taking it. We later
solved the loose stools problem by a combination of eliminating rhubarb root
powder, taking more fiber and using a better probiotic capsule. In fact, we now
take rhubarb root again (not on the regimen yet, since we are still slowly using
up an old mix containing far too much of it, buy adding a small amount to our
regular mix each meal). --Paul]

> Another question, in the list of supplements you'd take even if you
> had to pay for them, you didn't mention Blueberry or green tea
> (though there is a bit in LEF Mix); Is it because you take a lot in
> your daily food regimen and you don't see the interest of taking
> more ?

We do eat blueberries (frozen wild) daily - part of Paul's smoothie
and also in our large fruit cocktail before our dessert - and each of
us drinks several cups of green tea each day (actually 300ml in each
mug). That list in msg 1287 was made keeping in mind the limitations
of our current income. If our income was considerably greater, we
would then add blueberry and green tea extracts to our purchased
supplementation list, but probably after other items first. However,
if we had to pay for all our supplements and our income was
considerably greater, we might use the additional money for things
other than more supplements first.

> Thanks a lot for your work
> François Rose
>

**Kitty




Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:21 pm

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Hi Paul, I've been meaning to ask this for a long time. Since I do not have any deal going on with the LEF, it's to be expected that I cannot afford to buy all...
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Thanks Paul for this list--I'm satisfied with it. That's what I wanted to get. No need to add dosages, or justify why you'd take those. One question though: I...
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... Paul, Regarding point #7 perhaps that's true, but for many hormones people might gain a greater benefit if one or some remain at pre-40-yr-old levels. ...
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[snip] ... --Paul] Oops! That should have been 500 mcg!! Thanks to Marc Boucher for catching this error. --Paul...
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Nov 21, 2006
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... Kitty, I saw that melatonin was on Paul's list. However, you appear to have skimmed my message and missed where I specifically asked about "pre-40-yr-old"...
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... Glad to know the most effective ones are : arginine and ornithine--I wasn't too sure, but when I saw them in your list, I thought you listed them for this...
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... Hi Paul and Kitty I hope you are well I didn't finish my homework about my own experience of one meal eater (I wrote three pages but I want to rewrite and...
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Aug 14, 2007
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... Yes, thank you despite recent mishaps to each of us - Paul slipped while doing structural refurbishment of our dock at the cottage and I did not pay...
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Hello Paul and Kitty I hope you feel good Here is my present experience of one meal eater I tried to be as precise and complete as I could Good reading MY...
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This interesting and well organized post by Francois covers so many topics that I think it best to respond to it in several parts, each with a new subject line...
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Hello Paul and Kitty, I hope you feel good ; you seem to be very busy with physical tasks at your home. Good cheer ... My weigh scale indicates 136,7 lb(62 kg)...
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... [Yes, we have definitely been busy. You can get some idea of the outside efforts from the photos uploaded to the Group -...
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This interesting and well organized post by Francois covers so many topics that I think it best to respond to it in several parts, each with a new subject line...
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This interesting and well organized post by Francois covers so many topics that I think it best to respond to it in several parts, each with a new subject line...
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This interesting and well organized post by Francois covers so many topics that I think it best to respond to it in several parts, each with a new subject line...
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... Is this what you wanted Kitty? Here are the calculations. I can send it to you as an excel file if you desire. please let me know. - Erich Total Lipid...
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... container" and then "mine has plastic" (since at that point the reader already knows that the plastic refers to the container). --Paul] ... [given] is to ...
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... Erich, Not trying to be contentious I would really like to know how you got the impression that I "go for the cheapest", because while it depends a lot on...
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... Sorry Paul, I meant no offense. A poor choice of words on my part. I should have said "you go for the least expensive that gets the jobs done for you." ......
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... Thanks for the clarification. That is a major difference indeed. The reason that I was surprised initially was because it is an expression that many people...
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... Snipped portions responded to separately ... I suggest aiming for 3-5 grams of creatine daily. How many grams a day of the mix you'll have to consume to...
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ABOUT MELATONIN AND FRENCH IMPORTING <I snip the parts unrelated to this issue> ... it was not allowed to be imported or taken without a prescription in all EU...
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