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> [(snip)The first paper cited above is a wonderfully explanatory

> comparison and review of the three phagic processes containing great

> color diagrams. I was going to include several quotes, but my

> Acrobat reader is not allowing me to cut text from this paper for

> some reason

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> --Paul]



You probably have the "Hand tool" set. If you have Adobe 8, right click and a
menu pops up, allowing you to choose the "select tool", so you can cut and
paste. With Adobe 7 , the feature can be chosen on the menu bar at the top of
the window. (It took me a while to discover this by trial and error.)



Max Watt (Richard Kaufman)


[Thank you Richard/Max. We have Adobe Reader 7.0 on the 4 Linux computers (2 in
each location), full Adobe 8.x on the Windows XP machine in Arizona and full
Adobe 5.0 on the Windows XP Laptop. Paul has made considerable use of the copy
and paste feature in all these (and in earlier versions when we had Windows
desktop units) for the full paper quotes in several technical pages on research
chemicals, supplements and prescription drugs (available from the Supplements
section of the Science Index http://morelife.org/scienceindex.html ). In our
version of Adobe Reader 7.0, the Select Tool sits in the main toolbar beside the
Hand Tool and the Snapshot Tool

Above Paul was referring to a difference with the specific paper referred to in
the message from Erich Brueschke, "my Acrobat reader is not allowing me to cut
text from this paper for some reason." It was only later when he took it over
into the full Adobe 8.x that the fact that the file was *locked* could be seen.
No such information about the file was evident when looking at in Adobe Reader
7.0 on the Linux machine. This locking of files in Adobe which prevents any
copy/paste from the text may be seen more often in the future, but this was the
first time that we had seen it. **Kitty]

[The locking was particularly frustrating on the the linux computer Adobe
Reader, since everything appeared to work the same as normal (no warning
messages) except that when attempting to paste what I thought I had copied, I
found that the buffer still contained only the previously copied/cut text from
elsewhere.

Since all my attempts to copy anything from this file were futile (although I
did not attempt to resave the whole file in MS Word format which the full Adobe
8 allows one to do), I am curious about how Francois managed to get it into a
Word format which presumably is not locked for copying. --Paul]

[After Paul wrote the above I did some more looking at the link that Francois
Rose provided - http://www.landesbioscience.com/journals/autophagy/article/2017.
This goes to a page at Landes Bioscience with a .pdf file link at the bottom for
the "open access" version of the paper. That .pdf file is similarly locked
(encrypted) and the Document Properties (from the website) states clearly that
nothing can be done with the file except printing it. Clicking on the gold lock
in the bottom left corner of the Adobe Reader 7.0 screen provided the info that
the Document is secured and that further information is available in the
Documents Property dialog. Searching/pecking around and I noticed a right
pointing horizontal arrow at the top of the right scroll bar; clicking on it
brought up four options, the top one being Documents Property. The security
information states "Content Copying or Extraction: Not Allowed". **Kitty]

[Doing the same with my local pdf copy shows the same information there. (I just
did not know how to see it on my earlier attempts.) When I look at the same
security information in other pdf copies, they say "Content Copying or
Extraction: Allowed" --Paul]