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Reply | Forward Message #1279 of 2092 |
Re: Significant Self-Sovereign Individual Project Upload

Hi Kitty:

Started reading and found an error you might want to correct since it is early
on in the project:

Page: http://www.strike-the-root.com/columns/wakfer/wakfer1.html
I had often wondered about Thoreau's response to this payment of his tax for
him, but an answer appears to be given here. (Thanks to Rob M.) If the
description of what occurred given at that website is accurate, then it
appears that Thoreau did all that he could to continue his protest.

Link "here" has changed and goes not point to anything described.

[Actually, this critique is not properly a part of the SelfSIP at all (which I
essentially stated in the introductory paragraph above the list of essays and
links on the Index page of Critiques of Founding Documents section -
http://selfsip.org/critiques/). However, I now realize that my remarks there are
conflicting and are not sufficient to dissuade people from reading it first.
Therefore, it will be moved into another section of the page below the critiques
of the US founding documents and the intro paragraph will be rewritten. Thanks
for your input. This is exactly what we need from people, because without it we
cannot determine how people may be confused or led astray by our directions or
explanations. --Paul]

[Thanks, Erich, for bringing this to our attention. While I and Paul checked and
rechecked the links on our many pages (automatically for those direct, and
manually for those within a Javascript command), I didn't go further to links at
a site one of our pages linked to. In this case, the website san.beck.org
restructured their website but failed to put a redirect command at this old
page, something they could easily do and which we ourselves did in the first
couple of years of MoreLife.org when we modified our original subdirectory
scheme.

If a reader clicks on the provided link s/he will be at a combination page that
includes Thoreau near the bottom. The direct link for that portion that holds
the information linked to from Paul's essay, "Beyond Thoreau", is at
http://www.san.beck.org/GPJ16-Abolitionists.html#5

The original page can also be seen via Internet Archives Wayback Machine:
http://web.archive.org/web/20050324002317/http://san.beck.org/WP16-Thoreau.html

**Kitty]


Might I also
suggest that since it is vital that people reading are not interrupted or
slowed down by broken links on something as important as this project is, that
duplicating the appropriate text from other websites and referencing it with a
link would be a much better way and ensure that the project is self contained.

[When we created the Critiques of Revered Founding Documents subsection of the
Self-Sovereign Individual Project, Paul and I discussed whether to include his
essay on Thoreau, as we did directly with the critique of the Declaration of
Independence and Articles of Confederation . (see
http://www.strike-the-root.com/archive/wakfer.html) For these 2 latter, Paul
knew that he'd most likely revise/improve these at some later date, and having
those essays resident on our own site made sense. But we didn't think that he
would do that with "Beyond Thoreau" nor would I with "Return to the
Constitution??!"

[Actually, I just pointed out to Kitty that her essay "Return to the
Constitution" is not linked to from SelfSIP anywhere. We will be rectifying this
by placing a link to it in the Focus Section index. --Paul]

So it made sense to us to simply direct SelfSIP readers to our essays at
Strike-the-Root, despite the fact that owner Rob Moody removed all links to us
on the pages at STR. (This was after Rob had responded to me in on June 29 2003
as though I was ignorant/flighty - possibly even an idiot - when I continued
to repeat my email concern that he may have overwritten Paul's earlier critique
of the Declaration of Independence with the newer one on the Articles of
Confederation because of a link misdirection from the Wakfer archives. He did
later that day admit finding that he had indeed overwritten the file, but
feigned innocence at my comment, "I don't appreciate the assumption that I'm an
idiot." - "Did I ever say that you were?" When I told him that his inference was
just this and that his failure to listen to me the first time had caused a waste
of both his and my time, he responded that we should find another venue for our
work, which included copies he had of the critique of the Constitution Preamble
& Bill of Rights, first of 3 installments of earliest Declaration of Individual
Independence and also another essay by me. Soon afterward, he deleted the links
to our email addresses, to MoreLife.org and SelfSIP.org, though he retained the
4 essays themselves already published at STR. BTW, in relooking the email
exchange I had with Rob Moody in June 2003, I discovered that my last essay sent
to him has never been published at all - I'll rectify that soon in the SelfSIP
Focus section.)

At this time, I could enter a note on our Critiques Section index page at the
link for "Beyond Thoreau" that the "here" link in the text is not direct and
give the new URL. We could also bring that essay in-house at SelfSIP and also
provide a link to its original published location at STR, and reason for
duplication. Not sure yet which route I'll follow. **Kitty]

[We have been lately finding many valuable dialogs on various forums have been
lost, some of which we do not have copies nor have the original URL. (If we had
the latter, we could use the Internet Archive for those that are constructed so
that they can be archived by external crawlers. Unfortunately many currently are
not.) Therefore, from now on we will be sure to retain copies of everything that
we write elsewhere (except on newsgroups which all appear to have an everlasting
home at groups.google.com), and we may start to publish more of it on
SelfSIP.org (or on MoreLife.org if health/lE oriented). However, publishing on
our website is time consuming (some website programming database help would be
enormously beneficial to us and our whole effort). In addition, I do not want to
distract the SelfSIP reader from the important writings there by including too
many of less importance. Therefore, it will always only be highly insightful and
illustrative external responses and dialogs that will be brought in to SelfSIP.
--Paul]


Warmly,
Erich Brueschke




Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:37 pm

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We are very pleased to announce that the long awaited Natural Social Contract - for the goal Freeman society - is done and has been uploaded along with its 37...
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Hi Kitty: Started reading and found an error you might want to correct since it is early on in the project: Page:...
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