[This message and the emails regarding it are being posted to inform others
regarding this individual. **Kitty]

Aloha Paul, Kitty, & All ~ I came upon your "self-sovereign individual
project" and think it may tie-in with the "Individual Rights" Article
of my CONSTITUTION of UNITED DIVERSITY
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/uniteddiversity

Your feedback is appreciated.
Goodwill to you,
Triaka


[The email exchange is also publicly fulfilling part of the "feedback" that this
person requested.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kitty Antonik Wakfer [mailto:kitty@...]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 3:23 PM
To: Triaka@...
Subject: MoreLife Yahoo message in queue [wasL RE: Query


Hello Triaka,

It has now been over 2 days since you joined MoreLife Yahoo and received the
file regarding Group Policy that is sent to new members. Your submitted message
to the group will not be posted until you fully identify yourself to me and Paul
as explained in that file. If you have questions regarding this
self-identification policy, I suggest that you read the number of posts on the
subject that occurred after the notification to the group in at the end of July
with the original version of the policy change.
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/morelife/message/1042 (There are others
that are not directly linked to this thread.) Once you have sent me your
identification, we will post your message (including our comments) and add your
full name. Then, In the future all messages sent to the group will need to
include your full name and publicly used aliases (as stated in the group
policy).

Looking forward to receiving your full identification.

**Kitty Antonik Wakfer

MoreLife for the rational - http://morelife.org
Reality based tools for more life in quantity and quality
Self-Sovereign Individual Project - http://selfsip.org
Rational freedom by self-sovereignty & social contracting
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----Original Message-----
From: Kitty Antonik Wakfer [mailto:kitty@...]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 7:41 PM
To: Triaka@...
Subject: RE: MoreLife Yahoo message in queue [wasL RE: Query



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Triaka@... [mailto:Triaka@...]
> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 4:19 PM
> To: Kitty Antonik Wakfer
> Subject: Re: MoreLife Yahoo message in queue [wasL RE: Query
>
>
> Mahalo Kitty, but I'm a firm believer in "you will know them by the
> fruits of their labor" (my single name "Triaka" was spirit-given and
> made legal in Hawai'i),

We (Paul and I) want to know all the "fruits of [your] labor", therefore we want
to have proof of your identity - current name and one(s) used publicly in the
past - so that *all* your public words/actions can be linked to you. (You can do
this for Paul and me by using the information at http://morelife.org/personal/
which includes my previous legal names.) A photograph/picture of you is also an
aspect of "fruits of [your] labor" since you have significant control over your
appearance. Where you live (exact street address unnecessary) is one of "fruits"
as well.

> and I shall withdraw from the group.

By not being willing to provide this information to me and Paul (it is not
provided to anyone else) and to use your full name and list all public aliases
on messages to the MoreLife Yahoo group, you are stating that you are not
willing to stand behind your words with your identification. This greatly
weakens the value of any "message" you seek to send to others via a Yahoo group
of your own or entries to other sites that allow anonymity.

>
> Goodwill to you,
> Troika
>
> For a Moral & Ethical, Balanced World
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/uniteddiversity
> http://www.globalvisions.org/cl/swn
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peacemakerscorps
>

Triaka, from the brief look I took at your Yahoo group, I think you seriously
want to improve the situation currently present in the US and everywhere in the
world. However, I suggest that you do more studying on the most basic of
physiological facts regarding human beings and foundational principles
underlying human interactions. Greatly improved relationships - whether for
simply two individuals or those in a group of some nature - require fluid
communications with the ability to assess the characteristics of each other. As
for ethical, moral and balanced, use of these words to describe a world of
people without clear understanding of meaning is vacuous.

If you wish to take portions of either or both of the referenced essays in the
MoreLife Yahoo group policy (using quotations; available at
http://selfsip.org/focus/ ) and give reasons why our statements are false and
therefore the group self-identification policy is wrong/poor, then send a
message to MoreLife Yahoo. (Rejoining will be necessary.) Paul already stated in
one of the posts that we would accept messages on this subject of group policy
from those who had not identified themselves fully **if** the posters present
arguments not already covered in previous posts.

Hopefully you will see the value to you of increased thinking in these areas of
self-identification and self-responsibility.


**Kitty Antonik Wakfer

MoreLife for the rational - http://morelife.org
Reality based tools for more life in quantity and quality
Self-Sovereign Individual Project - http://selfsip.org
Rational freedom by self-sovereignty & social contracting

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Triaka@... [mailto:Triaka@...]
> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 8:07 PM
> To: Kitty Antonik Wakfer
> Subject: RE: MoreLife Yahoo message in queue [wasL RE: Query
>
>
> Aloha Kitty ~ At birth I was given the name Donald Gordon Smith
> (Chicago, ILL. 1926). During many years of broadcasting and in
> politics I was known as Don Smith.

Searching Google on "Don Smith" with "broadcasting" and "politics", I found an
item you placed on the web with your name, a Honolulu address and the referrent
"Triaka".
http://www.macronet.org/cgi-bin/htgrep.cgi/max=500&file=search.html,datafile.htm\
l&boolean=yes&case=yes&style=ul?Hawaii+or+%2C+HI+96* Use of "Don Smith" and
"Triaka" in another search turned up a few items of postings by you and
responses to you at other sites. One poster appears to be quoting from
information gained from some unnamed source, possibly somewhere you have
provided it. http://www.newsbackup.com/about567948.html (Later: I found the
source on another website relating to local Hawaii radio programs of yours,
current or in the past.)
Identifying information for you would best be part of your websites and your
Yahoo groups. I can see that there is no photo or identifying info as part of
your Yahoo ID, another way in which you are not being forthright with those with
whom you communicate on the Internet.

> Spirit gave me the name "Triaka" and I made
> it my legal name in Hawai'i in the early 90's.

While you were given your name at birth by your parents, *you* chose the
"Triaka" for whatever reason that it appealed to you.


>
> Goodwill to you,
> Triaka
>
> For a Moral & Ethical, Balanced World
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/uniteddiversity
> http://www.globalvisions.org/cl/swn
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peacemakerscorps


Portions of my previous email which are still pertinent and to which you did not
respond:
> Triaka, from the brief look I took at your Yahoo group, I think
> you seriously want to improve the situation currently present in
> the US and everywhere in the world. However, I suggest that you do
> more studying on the most basic of physiological facts regarding
> human beings and foundational principles underlying human
> interactions. Greatly improved relationships - whether for simply
> two individuals or those in a group of some nature - require fluid
> communications with the ability to assess the characteristics of
> each other. As for ethical, moral and balanced, use of these words
> to describe a world of people without clear understanding of
> meaning is vacuous.

Don/Triaka, your writings show me that you do not know the difference between
facts and opinion. From where or what did you derive these "Cosmic Laws"? You do
not appear to have any understanding of natural order or, for some reason, think
that it must be masqueraded and distorted with mysticism.

> If you wish to take portions of either or both of the referenced
> essays in the MoreLife Yahoo group policy (using quotations;
> available at http://selfsip.org/focus/ ) and give reasons why our
> statements are false and therefore the group self-identification
> policy is wrong/poor, then send a message to MoreLife Yahoo.
> (Rejoining will be necessary.) Paul already stated in one of the
> posts that we would accept messages on this subject of group
> policy from those who had not identified themselves fully **if**
> the posters present arguments not already covered in previous
> posts.

> Hopefully you will see the value to you of increased thinking in
> these areas of self-identification and self-responsibility."

If you wish to post messages at MoreLife Yahoo, please verify that the 2212
Wilder Ave. Honolulu, HI 96822-2487 address (that shown on the referenced
website above) is current and provide me with a recent photo or upload it to the
MoreLife Yahoo photos section and/or your Yahoo ID. Including your full name of
Don Smith/Triaka in messages, along with other public aliases is necessary so
that all your words and actions can be linked to *you*.
Once again, we will post a non-fully identifed message from you on this group
policy if your critique (containing quotes) of our essays present material not
already covered in previous posts.

**Kitty Antonik Wakfer

MoreLife for the rational - http://morelife.org
Reality based tools for more life in quantity and quality
Self-Sovereign Individual Project - http://selfsip.org
Rational freedom by self-sovereignty & social contracting

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[While we don't normally require or even care about where people live, Kitty was
willing to accept the address information (and phone number) that this person
has already posted elsewhere plus a photo as identity verification in lieu of
transmittal of an actual picture ID. --Paul]


-----Original Message-----
From: Triaka@... [mailto:Triaka@...]
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 5:17 PM
To: Kitty Antonik Wakfer
Subject: RE: MoreLife Yahoo message in queue [wasL RE: Query


Dear Kitty ~ Thank you for your response. It makes clear to me that
you are not of the "Light", and it would be pointless to continue
this relationship. I hereby withdraw my "query" and request that
you not contact me further in this matter, unless you have a change
of heart.

Respectfully,
Triaka

For a Moral & Ethical, Balanced World
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/uniteddiversity
http://www.globalvisions.org/cl/swn
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peacemakerscorps

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There was nothing more to be said to this individual who initiated contact with
us via this Yahoo group. His unwillingness to completely identify himself (no
photo provided) and then engage in discussion here or even to provide any *real*
explanation in his email speaks for itself. This exchange has been provided as a
"public service" in the sense that more of his "ideas" are available now to
those who search the Web on his name. **Kitty]