any pictures??? I'd love to see that enchating garden!!!
 
Klara

----- Original Message ----
From: Simon G. Brown <simon@...>
To: moderndaymacrobiotics@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2007 4:19:32 AM
Subject: Re: [moderndaymacrobiotics] happy belated bday simon

Hi Leslie,

Yes it was a great time. Dragana invited people from all different stages of my life and it was wonderful to have everyone in the same place at the same time. Luckily the weather held out so we were able to have the party in my mother’s enchanting garden. Not to mention the incredible food that Dragana, her sister and Melanie prepared. A truly memorable day!

Love,

Simon


On 3/7/07 20:35, "leslieanneashburn" <leslieanneashburn@ yahoo.com> wrote:

 
 

Sounded like you had a great party!  Any highlights?

Leslie

 
      

 

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Hi Simon,

I am interested in hearing more from/about anyone who has actually  
had improved thyroid function on a macro diet.  This is certainly  
what I am hoping for.

I will be ordering your book this week and look forward to reading  
it.  Thanks for recommending a diet plan.  I actually stopped the  
Lugol's iodine solution because I was getting detox reactions (iodine  
therapy detoxes fluorides, bromides and other nasty things), but I  
had been able to reduce my meds on it earlier.  I do prefer the  
natural, food based way, but when I was severely hypo I was  
dangerously near a hypo coma so there was no other way than to do meds.

Christine

On Jul 4, 2007, at 5:24 AM, Simon G. Brown wrote:

> Hi Christine,
>
> Sea vegetables are a good natural source of iodine and you will  
> need to have regular check ups as it is possible that with regular  
> sea vegetables you will need to reduce your existing source of  
> iodine. I suggest you work with your doctor on this.
>
> Some people have found the function of their thyroid improves  
> eating macrobiotically.
>
> If you have my book Modern Day Macrobiotics I would suggest you try  
> the healing diet plan for four months and see how you feel.
>
> All the best,
> Simon
>
>
> On 3/7/07 20:52, "Christine Cassidy" <christinecassidy@... <mailto:christinecassidy%40mac.com> > wrote:
>>
>> Hi Simon, and thank you for the welcome.
>>
>> I am hypothyroid - under active.  I started gaining weight when I
>> started using a lot of soy products - soy protein, tofu, soy milk,
>> etc. about 10 years ago when I went to a strict vegetarian diet.
>> When I went on thyroid meds, about a year and a half ago, I lost
>> about 40 pounds without doing anything at all, just the meds.  Then I
>> started iodine and that helped me not feel so tired but I still want
>> to lose more, to get to a healthy weight and feel better all 'round,
>> also would love to get off the meds.  So I started back with brown
>> rice and a macro diet without wheat and dairy last week and am
>> incorporating seaweeds into my diet.  I'm here to learn more since I
>> have never followed a strict macro diet before.
>>
>> Christine (bunny101033763)
>>
>> On Jul 3, 2007, at 1:29 PM, Simon G. Brown wrote:
>>
>> > Hello and welcome.
>> >
>> > Is your thyroid under or over active?
>> >
>> > The macrobiotic foods are wonderful for maintaining a healthy
>> > weight and I am sure we can help you learn more about macrobiotics.
>> >
>> > All the best,
>> >
>> > Simon
>>

 
    

Wow, have a great time with Reggie, Melanie. What a small world we
live in.

The garden sounds absolutely amazing.  I can picture some fairies
there....  If photos do get posted, I will be excited to see.

Glad you're safely back home.

Best, Leslie

--- In moderndaymacrobiotics@yahoogroups.com, Melanie <mel528@...>
wrote:
>
> My mother's garden is stunning and so healing.
>
> Lovely shrubs, flowering plants, walkways, roses, water features
againest a backdrop of English fields and woodland - fantastic place
to wander and ponder.
>
> Maybe someone has photos from the birthday bash or Simon can get a
few when he is next up there.
>
> Back in the US now - Reg is coming to visit today so am looking
forward to that.
>
> Melanie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Michelle <ttbeachbum@...>
> >Sent: Jul 5, 2007 10:45 AM
> >To: moderndaymacrobiotics@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [moderndaymacrobiotics] Re: happy belated bday simon
> >
> >--- In moderndaymacrobiotics@yahoogroups.com, Klara LeVine
> ><klara_levine@> wrote:
> >>
> >> any pictures??? I'd love to see that enchating garden!!!
> >>
> >> Klara
> >> Ditto!  Happy Belated!
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----
> >> From: Simon G. Brown <simon@>
> >> To: moderndaymacrobiotics@yahoogroups.com
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2007 4:19:32 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [moderndaymacrobiotics] happy belated bday simon
> >>
> >> Hi Leslie,
> >>
> >> Yes it was a great time. Dragana invited people from all
different
> >stages of my life and it was wonderful to have everyone in the
same
> >place at the same time. Luckily the weather held out so we were
able
> >to have the party in my mother¢s enchanting garden. Not to
mention
> >the incredible food that Dragana, her sister and Melanie
prepared. A
> >truly memorable day!
> >>
> >> Love,
> >>
> >> Simon
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3/7/07 20:35, "leslieanneashburn" <leslieanneashburn@
> >yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sounded like you had a great party!  Any highlights?
> >>
> >> Leslie
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
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> Author: The Cooklets, Bless the Baby, Yummy Yummy in my Tummy
>

Hi Klara,

Yes, I was one of the two cooks for the participants.  The other
cook is the woman who I do my dinners with.  (Not sure if I will
actually be in the film though...)

Some of the participants still come to our dinners now a year
later.  What an amazing transformation and process of discovery they
went through.

I hope Verne gets the editing and final production off the ground to
have the final product completed.

Leslie


--- In moderndaymacrobiotics@yahoogroups.com, Klara LeVine
<klara_levine@...> wrote:
>
> Simon,
>
> EXCELLENT!!!!!! Well written, encouraging, so needed for those
newbies (and even older ones) who get overwhelmed with all the info,
rules, shoulds and should nots.
>
> How fortunate this world is to have you in it, spreading your
wonderful insights.
>
> For those who don't subscribe to the Macrobiotic Guide, I
encourage you to do so - I am so inspired by almost every edition.
>
> Leslie, do you have anything to do with Verne's film?? I hope it
makes it big and has a super impact on today's world accepting the
wisdom of whole foods.
>
> For those who haven't received the Macrobiotic Guide, here's where
to find Simon's article:
>
>
> http://www.macrobiotics.co.uk/noncredo.htm
>
> Klara
>
>
>
>
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How fantastic.  Sounds so wonderful.

--- In moderndaymacrobiotics@yahoogroups.com, "Simon G. Brown"
<simon@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Leslie,
>
> Yes it was a great time. Dragana invited people from all different
stages of
> my life and it was wonderful to have everyone in the same place at
the same
> time. Luckily the weather held out so we were able to have the
party in my
> mother¹s enchanting garden. Not to mention the incredible food
that Dragana,
> her sister and Melanie prepared. A truly memorable day!
>
> Love,
>
> Simon
>
>
> On 3/7/07 20:35, "leslieanneashburn" <leslieanneashburn@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sounded like you had a great party!  Any highlights?
> >
> > Leslie
> >
> >
> >
>

My mother's garden is stunning and so healing.

Lovely shrubs, flowering plants, walkways, roses, water features againest a
backdrop of English fields and woodland - fantastic place to wander and ponder.

Maybe someone has photos from the birthday bash or Simon can get a few when he
is next up there.

Back in the US now - Reg is coming to visit today so am looking forward to that.

Melanie

-----Original Message-----
>From: Michelle <ttbeachbum@...>
>Sent: Jul 5, 2007 10:45 AM
>To: moderndaymacrobiotics@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [moderndaymacrobiotics] Re: happy belated bday simon
>
>--- In moderndaymacrobiotics@yahoogroups.com, Klara LeVine
><klara_levine@...> wrote:
>>
>> any pictures??? I'd love to see that enchating garden!!!
>>
>> Klara
>> Ditto!  Happy Belated!
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Simon G. Brown <simon@...>
>> To: moderndaymacrobiotics@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2007 4:19:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: [moderndaymacrobiotics] happy belated bday simon
>>
>> Hi Leslie,
>>
>> Yes it was a great time. Dragana invited people from all different
>stages of my life and it was wonderful to have everyone in the same
>place at the same time. Luckily the weather held out so we were able
>to have the party in my mother¢s enchanting garden. Not to mention
>the incredible food that Dragana, her sister and Melanie prepared. A
>truly memorable day!
>>
>> Love,
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>
>> On 3/7/07 20:35, "leslieanneashburn" <leslieanneashburn@
>yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sounded like you had a great party!  Any highlights?
>>
>> Leslie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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--- In moderndaymacrobiotics@yahoogroups.com, Klara LeVine
<klara_levine@...> wrote:
>
> any pictures??? I'd love to see that enchating garden!!!
>
> Klara
> Ditto!  Happy Belated!
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Simon G. Brown <simon@...>
> To: moderndaymacrobiotics@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2007 4:19:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [moderndaymacrobiotics] happy belated bday simon
>
> Hi Leslie,
>
> Yes it was a great time. Dragana invited people from all different
stages of my life and it was wonderful to have everyone in the same
place at the same time. Luckily the weather held out so we were able
to have the party in my mother¢s enchanting garden. Not to mention
the incredible food that Dragana, her sister and Melanie prepared. A
truly memorable day!
>
> Love,
>
> Simon
>
>
> On 3/7/07 20:35, "leslieanneashburn" <leslieanneashburn@
yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sounded like you had a great party!  Any highlights?
>
> Leslie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Hi Siggy
     Congratulations! How wonderful. Having just been
pregnant, let me tell you what worked for me!

     Pregnancy can make you a bit yang which may lead
you to desire yin foods. Be sure to keep an eye on
what yin foods you consume and that they aren't
extreme. I went waaay too yin at one point in my
pregnancy and had weird symptoms that bewildered my
midwives, but not a macro counselor I consulted
however! She gave me a few dishes to balance me out as
well as recommended that I eat balanced, with a focus
on leafy greens and corn to balance out the yangness
of pregnancy.

    Also, I read in one of Michio Kushi's pamphlets
that what you eat at the beginning of the pregnancy
can have a bigger impact on your baby than the last
trimester.

    If you have acid reflux/heart burn, put some
gomasio under your tongue and it works immediately and
like a charm! Of course, what you eat will either
cause you to have it or not, so if you do, take a look
at what you've been consuming. If gomasio is not
available, you can try some sea salt.

      For leg cramps, many things were recommended to
me from various acupressure points, smearing mustard
on the area and the only thing that really worked was
walking around.

       Avoid as much electromagnetic radiation as you
can. I was also recommended not to take pre-natal
vitamins which I decided to heed after having a
negative reaction to one, but that is obviously a very
personal and individual decision.

Good luck and enjoy!
Catalina
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Hi Simon,

I am interested in hearing more from/about anyone who has actually
had improved thyroid function on a macro diet.  This is certainly
what I am hoping for.

I will be ordering your book this week and look forward to reading
it.  Thanks for recommending a diet plan.  I actually stopped the
Lugol's iodine solution because I was getting detox reactions (iodine
therapy detoxes fluorides, bromides and other nasty things), but I
had been able to reduce my meds on it earlier.  I do prefer the
natural, food based way, but when I was severely hypo I was
dangerously near a hypo coma so there was no other way than to do meds.

Christine



On Jul 4, 2007, at 5:24 AM, Simon G. Brown wrote:

> Hi Christine,
>
> Sea vegetables are a good natural source of iodine and you will
> need to have regular check ups as it is possible that with regular
> sea vegetables you will need to reduce your existing source of
> iodine. I suggest you work with your doctor on this.
>
> Some people have found the function of their thyroid improves
> eating macrobiotically.
>
> If you have my book Modern Day Macrobiotics I would suggest you try
> the healing diet plan for four months and see how you feel.
>
> All the best,
> Simon
>
>
> On 3/7/07 20:52, "Christine Cassidy" <christinecassidy@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Simon, and thank you for the welcome.
>>
>> I am hypothyroid - under active.  I started gaining weight when I
>> started using a lot of soy products - soy protein, tofu, soy milk,
>> etc. about 10 years ago when I went to a strict vegetarian diet.
>> When I went on thyroid meds, about a year and a half ago, I lost
>> about 40 pounds without doing anything at all, just the meds.  Then I
>> started iodine and that helped me not feel so tired but I still want
>> to lose more, to get to a healthy weight and feel better all 'round,
>> also would love to get off the meds.  So I started back with brown
>> rice and a macro diet without wheat and dairy last week and am
>> incorporating seaweeds into my diet.  I'm here to learn more since I
>> have never followed a strict macro diet before.
>>
>> Christine (bunny101033763)
>>
>> On Jul 3, 2007, at 1:29 PM, Simon G. Brown wrote:
>>
>> > Hello and welcome.
>> >
>> > Is your thyroid under or over active?
>> >
>> > The macrobiotic foods are wonderful for maintaining a healthy
>> > weight and I am sure we can help you learn more about macrobiotics.
>> >
>> > All the best,
>> >
>> > Simon
>>

 
 

Hi Simon, and thank you for the welcome.

I am hypothyroid - under active.  I started gaining weight when I  
started using a lot of soy products - soy protein, tofu, soy milk,  
etc. about 10 years ago when I went to a strict vegetarian diet.   
When I went on thyroid meds, about a year and a half ago, I lost  
about 40 pounds without doing anything at all, just the meds.  Then I  
started iodine and that helped me not feel so tired but I still want  
to lose more, to get to a healthy weight and feel better all 'round,  
also would love to get off the meds.  So I started back with brown  
rice and a macro diet without wheat and dairy last week and am  
incorporating seaweeds into my diet.  I'm here to learn more since I  
have never followed a strict macro diet before.

Christine (bunny101033763)

On Jul 3, 2007, at 1:29 PM, Simon G. Brown wrote:

> Hello and welcome.
>
> Is your thyroid under or over active?
>
> The macrobiotic foods are wonderful for maintaining a healthy  
> weight and I am sure we can help you learn more about macrobiotics.
>
> All the best,
>
> Simon
>
>
> On 3/7/07 16:32, "Bruce Paine" <bruspain2@... <mailto:bruspain2%40verizon.net> > wrote:
>>
>> Please welcome the following new members to Modern-Day Macrobiotics:
>> bunny101033763
>> Comment from user:
>> I want to learn more about cooking macro. I am
>> strict vegetarian. I have thyroid problems and hope this might  
>> help me
>> lose more weight and feel better and maybe get off thyroid  
>> medications.
>> piscocat1
>> Comment from user:
>> I want to learn who to eat a macrobiotic diet correctly for health  
>> reasons.
>>
>> Remember this description written by Simon G. Brown the group's  
>> owner:
>>
>> Modern Day macrobiotics is the title of my book and I have set up  
>> this site for anyone who wants to get help with starting,  
>> practicing or developing his or her experience of macrobiotics.
>>
>> Our style is open, honest and flexible. I am happy to discuss any  
>> aspect of macrobiotics without attachments to any of the concepts.  
>> In this site I hope we can share experiences and join together to  
>> make it easier to get the most out of a macrobiotic lifestyle.
>>
>> The idea is to make this an interesting space to share opinions,  
>> perhaps gently challenge each other and become a valuable resource  
>> for anyone starting macrobiotics.
>>
>> This is by far the most active discussion website in the  
>> macrobiotic section of Yahoo and more active than
>> many groups with thousands of members. On one level this goes to  
>> show what an
>> interesting and stimulating subject macrobiotics can be. We  
>> regularly post three to four
>> hundred messages to each other a month.
>>
>> At the same time some people who receive emails from the group  
>> find this overwhelming.
>> If so, the solution is to go to the front page;
>>
>> http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ moderndaymacrobi otics/  
>> <http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/moderndaymacrobiotics/>
>>
>> Look for the - Edit Membership hyperlink - to the upper left just  
>> above the Modern-Day Macrobiotics
>> banner. Click it.
>>
>> This will take you to - Edit Membership
>>
>> Under step two you can select Daily Digest, Special Notices or Web  
>> Only to stop all the
>> individual emails coming through.
>>
>> If you enjoy all the discussion and want to be a part of it as it  
>> happens continue with
>> Individual Email.
>>
>> You read this disclaimer <http://mdmdisclaimer.blogspot.com/>  
>> before joining the group?
>>
>> The book, Modern-Day Macrobiotics is now available for purchase  
>> at  Simply Natural <http://www.simply-natural.biz/modern-day-
>> macrobiotics.php> !
>>
>> Visit Simon's website ChiEnergy <http://www.chienergy.co.uk/>
>>
>> Visit Simply Natural <http://www.simply-natural.biz/>  for your  
>> macrobiotic shopping needs: Natural and Macrobiotic Books,  
>> Clothing, Kitchenware, Natural Bedding, Natural Foods, Personal  
>> Care Products, and Whole Vitamins, his forums, and other services  
>> at Cybermacro <http://www.cybermacro.com/> .
>>
>> For anything macrobiotic that you can't find visit the online  
>> <http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/moderndaymacrobiotics/links/
>> Places_001169126535/Stores_001169126707/Online_stores_001169126812/
>> > section of the group's links
>>
>> Be well, be your best, and be blessed!
>>
>> Thank you, very much.
>> Bruce Paine <http://brucesaysbalancezine.typepad.com/
>> brucesmbbookreview/>
>>
 
    

 
 

Sounded like you had a great party!  Any highlights?

Leslie

 
      

Hi Simon, and thank you for the welcome.

I am hypothyroid - under active.  I started gaining weight when I
started using a lot of soy products - soy protein, tofu, soy milk,
etc. about 10 years ago when I went to a strict vegetarian diet.
When I went on thyroid meds, about a year and a half ago, I lost
about 40 pounds without doing anything at all, just the meds.  Then I
started iodine and that helped me not feel so tired but I still want
to lose more, to get to a healthy weight and feel better all 'round,
also would love to get off the meds.  So I started back with brown
rice and a macro diet without wheat and dairy last week and am
incorporating seaweeds into my diet.  I'm here to learn more since I
have never followed a strict macro diet before.

Christine (bunny101033763)


On Jul 3, 2007, at 1:29 PM, Simon G. Brown wrote:

> Hello and welcome.
>
> Is your thyroid under or over active?
>
> The macrobiotic foods are wonderful for maintaining a healthy
> weight and I am sure we can help you learn more about macrobiotics.
>
> All the best,
>
> Simon
>
>
> On 3/7/07 16:32, "Bruce Paine" <bruspain2@...> wrote:
>>
>> Please welcome the following new members to Modern-Day Macrobiotics:
>> bunny101033763
>> Comment from user:
>> I want to learn more about cooking macro. I am
>> strict vegetarian. I have thyroid problems and hope this might
>> help me
>> lose more weight and feel better and maybe get off thyroid
>> medications.
>> piscocat1
>> Comment from user:
>> I want to learn who to eat a macrobiotic diet correctly for health
>> reasons.
>>
>> Remember this description written by Simon G. Brown the group's
>> owner:
>>
>> Modern Day macrobiotics is the title of my book and I have set up
>> this site for anyone who wants to get help with starting,
>> practicing or developing his or her experience of macrobiotics.
>>
>> Our style is open, honest and flexible. I am happy to discuss any
>> aspect of macrobiotics without attachments to any of the concepts.
>> In this site I hope we can share experiences and join together to
>> make it easier to get the most out of a macrobiotic lifestyle.
>>
>> The idea is to make this an interesting space to share opinions,
>> perhaps gently challenge each other and become a valuable resource
>> for anyone starting macrobiotics.
>>
>> This is by far the most active discussion website in the
>> macrobiotic section of Yahoo and more active than
>> many groups with thousands of members. On one level this goes to
>> show what an
>> interesting and stimulating subject macrobiotics can be. We
>> regularly post three to four
>> hundred messages to each other a month.
>>
>> At the same time some people who receive emails from the group
>> find this overwhelming.
>> If so, the solution is to go to the front page;
>>
>> http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ moderndaymacrobi otics/
>> <http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/moderndaymacrobiotics/>
>>
>> Look for the - Edit Membership hyperlink - to the upper left just
>> above the Modern-Day Macrobiotics
>> banner. Click it.
>>
>> This will take you to - Edit Membership
>>
>> Under step two you can select Daily Digest, Special Notices or Web
>> Only to stop all the
>> individual emails coming through.
>>
>> If you enjoy all the discussion and want to be a part of it as it
>> happens continue with
>> Individual Email.
>>
>> You read this disclaimer <http://mdmdisclaimer.blogspot.com/>
>> before joining the group?
>>
>> The book, Modern-Day Macrobiotics is now available for purchase
>> at  Simply Natural <http://www.simply-natural.biz/modern-day-
>> macrobiotics.php> !
>>
>> Visit Simon's website ChiEnergy <http://www.chienergy.co.uk/>
>>
>> Visit Simply Natural <http://www.simply-natural.biz/>  for your
>> macrobiotic shopping needs: Natural and Macrobiotic Books,
>> Clothing, Kitchenware, Natural Bedding, Natural Foods, Personal
>> Care Products, and Whole Vitamins, his forums, and other services
>> at Cybermacro <http://www.cybermacro.com/> .
>>
>> For anything macrobiotic that you can't find visit the online
>> <http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/moderndaymacrobiotics/links/
>> Places_001169126535/Stores_001169126707/Online_stores_001169126812/
>> > section of the group's links
>>
>> Be well, be your best, and be blessed!
>>
>> Thank you, very much.
>> Bruce Paine <http://brucesaysbalancezine.typepad.com/
>> brucesmbbookreview/>
>>

Sounded like you had a great party!  Any highlights?

Leslie

 
 

The article below states such an obvious truth in all matters, yet it's such a good reminder. It's so easy to see what's wrong, to see the glass half empty rather than half full, to complain rather than to appreciate, and to want what the "other" has rather than realize what we have is exactly what we need, or at least to see we don't need EVERYTHING.
 
What's missing I think is the small steps in between - if there is a big challenge in your life, I think one has to cultivate seeing the good and appreciation with small things - that's what I think prayer is partly about - constantly thanking G-d for what we have - and hopefully that kind of appreciation will spread to the rest of one's life, to the greater challenges.
 
We once had a Chanukah party where we brought something written about our personal miracles
 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/MacroloversofJerusalem/files/Miracles%20-%20Chanukah%205766/ but seeing miracles, or the good, doesn't have to be in the great events, it's so amazing to see those things in the small ones, the daily wonderful happenings in our lives.
 
Like all things in macrobiotics, it takes making a conscious choice - and working at it, like when we remember to breath deep because we know how good it is - we do it consciously, so with the awareness and appreciation of the good in our lives, we need to do it consciously.
 
Again, I'm not writing this because I'm so good at it - it's because I too want to work on it.
 
Enjoy the article, enjoy your life!!!
 
Klara
 
 
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Hi everyone!
I have really been enjoying reading about the different topics and
have been learning alot.
I have just found out I am pregnant and as a Macro person I want to
make sure I am eating the right things for my baby.

what are the best foods for pregnancy?
what should I avoid?  Are there any Macro foods I should avoid during
pregnancy?

Thanks in advance for your help!!
Siggy

 
    

Siggy,

Congratulations!! That is really wonderful news.

I think that the standard macro diet applies, and Melanie will be
able to share more details.

Leslie

--- In moderndaymacrobiotics@yahoogroups.com, "siggy13"
<sigrun.matthiesen-campbell@...> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone!
> I have really been enjoying reading about the different topics and
> have been learning alot.
> I have just found out I am pregnant and as a Macro person I want
to
> make sure I am eating the right things for my baby.
>
> what are the best foods for pregnancy?
> what should I avoid?  Are there any Macro foods I should avoid
during
> pregnancy?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help!!
> Siggy
>

 
 

Thanks Simon,
It has risen from last year.  The level is now 224 (the high range
is 175 ug/dl.  It has me dumbfounded.  The weird part is my husband
(non-vegetarian) is anemic, so I have been cooking lots of greens,
beans, seeds, nuts in my vegetarian dish which he eats as a side.  
Thanks for the name, now I can research further.

Michelle

--- In moderndaymacrobiotics@yahoogroups.com <mailto:moderndaymacrobiotics%40yahoogroups.com> , "Simon G. Brown"
<simon@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Michelle,
>
> There is an enormous amount of iron in beans, green vegetables,
seeds, sea
> vegetables, however, in most cases we do not absorb the iron as
well from
> these sources but it may be that you do.
>
> It might be worth getting a second test just to be sure before
jumping to
> any conclusions. How high was it? Is it coming down or rising?
>
> I think the only medical reason for high iron is a condition called
> hemochromatosis.
>
> I hope this helps,
>
> Simon
>
>
> On 28/6/07 21:52, "Michelle" <ttbeachbum@...> wrote:
>
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >
> > What would cause a female (me) to have high iron levels?  I am
mostly
> > vegetarian (a few shrimp or fresh caught seasonal fish) but not
> > weekly. I do not eat alot of cheese/dairy.  As I mentioned in an
> > earlier post, I am still learning Macrobiotics.  From the cyber
> > reading, I am dumbfounded...
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> > Michelle
> >
> >  
> >
>

 
    

 
 

Thanks, Simon.  I'll read up more on this.  I wonder if these energies are
more mental/spiritual than physical, or if one of the three applies more to
one's metabolism or physical type.  I've tended to have major weight
problems starting around age 36 after I quit smoking (Fire energy!) when I'm
not eating low-fat vegan or macro.  You'd think the Fire would make for a
speedy metabolism but in my case it doesn't.  The surface Earth might tend
me more toward weight issues, possibly?

Best Wishes,
Chad Henry

>From: "Simon G. Brown" <simon@... <mailto:simon%40chienergy.co.uk> >
>Reply-To: moderndaymacrobiotics@yahoogroups.com <mailto:moderndaymacrobiotics%40yahoogroups.com>
>To: <moderndaymacrobiotics@yahoogroups.com <mailto:moderndaymacrobiotics%40yahoogroups.com> >
>Subject: Re: [moderndaymacrobiotics] Re: Macrobiotic Education - The Five
>Elements
>Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 10:49:35 +0100
>
>Hi Chad,
>
>In the nine ki system I use you would be a 968. Deep down midday, summer,
>fire energy, emotions are evening October / November metal energy and on
>the
>surface early morning, January / February earth energy.
>
>All the best,
>
>Simon
>
>
>On 29/6/07 17:05, "Chad Henry" <gregcat@... <mailto:gregcat%40msn.com> > wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi, Simon.  My birth date is Oct 9, 1946.  Year is 9, month is 6--it's
>the
> > 3rd number that comes up differently according to different authors.
> >
> > Best Wishes,
> > Chad Henry
> >
> >> >From: "Simon G. Brown" <simon@... <mailto:simon%40chienergy.co.uk>
> >> <mailto:simon%40chienergy.co.uk> >
> >> >Reply-To: moderndaymacrobiotics@yahoogroups.com <mailto:moderndaymacrobiotics%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> <mailto:moderndaymacrobiotics%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> >To: <moderndaymacrobiotics@yahoogroups.com <mailto:moderndaymacrobiotics%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> <mailto:moderndaymacrobiotics%40yahoogroups.com> >
> >> >Subject: Re: [moderndaymacrobiotics] Re: Macrobiotic Education - The
>Five
> >> >Elements
> >> >Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 09:47:37 +0100
> >> >
> >> >Hi Chad,
> >> >
> >> >I certainly like and use astrology. I have written and book on nine ki
>and
> >> >use it in my consultations. There are many amazing insights when
>looking at
> >> >the solar system and for example comparing it to quantum physics.
>However I
> >> >do not believe it is some kind of universal truth that can be accurate
>all
> >> >the time. Perhaps it does not work that way, there are too many
>variables
> >> >or
> >> >we have not got far enough in our understanding.
> >> >
> >> >There are many contradictions within and between the systems and
>different
> >> >practitioners will give different readings making it somewhat
>subjective.
> >> >
> >> >Let me know your date of birth and I might be able to shed some more
>light
> >> >on the nine ki interpretation.
> >> >
> >> >All the best,
> >> >
> >> >Simon
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >On 28/6/07 23:24, "Chad Henry" <gregcat@... <mailto:gregcat%40msn.com>  
><mailto:gregcat%40msn.com> >
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Simon wrote:
> >>> > > "My understanding is that despite a lot of research there is no
>evidence
> >> >to
> >>> > > show that western astrology correlates to any real life
>experience".
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Hi, Simon:  I think our leading western traditional astrologers
>(and
> >>> > > hundreds of lesser knowns) would hotly debate your above
>statement!  It
> >>> > > would take the word of astrologers much wiser and more insightful
>than I
> >> >to
> >>> > > offer persuasive evidence that the seven inner planets mirror the
> >> >movements
> >>> > > of our lives, but I believe they do.  I study a traditional form
>of
> >> >western
> >>> > > mystery school astrology called "horary" (after having also spent
>years
> >>> > > studying natal astrology)--horary is used primarily to answer
>specific
> >>> > > questions--a chart is drawn for the moment of the question,
>somewhat in
> >> >the
> >>> > > spirit of throwing an I Ching reading and is quite effective.  
>There are
> >>> > > 2000 years or more of recorded scholarship in this tradition, put
>forth
> >> >by
> >>> > > Ptolemy the Greek who recorded the astrological traditions of
>Greece,
> >> >Egypt,
> >>> > > Babylon, and the Jewish and Arabian astrologers of his time.  We
>also
> >> >study
> >>> > > Christian Astrology by Wm. Lilly, published in the 1700's which is
>also
> >> >a
> >>> > > compendium of previous writing in the field.  (It was called
>"Christian"
> >>> > > more to protect himself from laws against fortune-telling, than to
> >> >profess
> >>> > > some kind of dogmatic approach).
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On our Yahoo list, two recent examples of questions whose answers
>were
> >>> > > correctly predicted were:  the timing of the birth of a baby
>(correct
> >> >within
> >>> > > a few hours) and the return of a lost pet cat (correct within
>about an
> >>> > > hour).  This form of astrology is not fool proof--depends more on
>the
> >>> > > astrologer than the astrology--but we use the seven inner planets,
>and
> >> >the
> >>> > > lunar nodes, and rarely use the three outers--Uranus, Neptune, and
> >> >Pluto.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Having read everything I could about 9 Star Ki, but not having
>studied
> >> >it in
> >>> > > depth, I see corollaries with western astrology--there are
>favorable
> >> >periods
> >>> > > and challenging periods--and there may be ways for optimizing the
> >> >former,
> >>> > > and negotiating the latter in skillful ways in a kind of Taoist
> >>> > > go-with-the-flow approach: plant your garden in the spring, take
>an
> >> >umbrella
> >>> > > if it's raining, look both ways before crossing kind of
>philosophy.  I
> >> >have
> >>> > > a lot of admiration for the 9 Ki system, though it has
>contradictions
> >> >(as
> >>> > > does Western astrology) for instance, whether or not women's birth
>data
> >>> > > should be figured the same or differently from men's, whether 5 is
>5 or
> >>> > > should convert to 2 or 8, etc.  (some of this is just the
>difference
> >> >between
> >>> > > the feng shui school and the Japanese school, I know).
> >>> > >
> >>> > > I'm a 9 but never felt very 9-sh (everybody born in my year is a 9
>of
> >>> > > course); then depending on which system I'm going by, I'm either a
>6 - 9
> >> >or
> >>> > > 6-something else for my month and resolution numbers.  I'd like to
>learn
> >>> > > more about the system.  I'm interested in the 5 element theory.  
>My
> >> >partner
> >>> > > of 25 years is a 2 birth year and I'm a 9--some of the books call
>this a
> >>> > > draining relationship for me, and it's true I do an awful lot of
>the
> >> >support
> >>> > > work in the relationship--maybe it would be good to get a third
>person
> >> >under
> >>> > > the roof who was a 3 or a 4!
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Anyway, this is a macrobiotics site, not one for debating
>astrology so
> >> >I'll
> >>> > > let this subject go and spend more time learning about 9 Star.  
>I'm in a
> >> >3
> >>> > > year which is apparently good for starting new long term projects,
>but
> >> >my
> >>> > > energy and focus aren't that great--I'm afraid I'm wasting an
> >> >opportunity
> >>> > > here, but I'll try to keep plugging away.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Thanks,
> >>> > > Chad
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

 
    

Hi everyone!
I have really been enjoying reading about the different topics and
have been learning alot.
I have just found out I am pregnant and as a Macro person I want to
make sure I am eating the right things for my baby.

what are the best foods for pregnancy?
what should I avoid?  Are there any Macro foods I should avoid during
pregnancy?

Thanks in advance for your help!!
Siggy

Thanks Simon,
It has risen from last year.  The level is now 224 (the high range
is 175 ug/dl.  It has me dumbfounded.  The weird part is my husband
(non-vegetarian) is anemic, so I have been cooking lots of greens,
beans, seeds, nuts in my vegetarian dish which he eats as a side.
Thanks for the name, now I can research further.

Michelle


--- In moderndaymacrobiotics@yahoogroups.com, "Simon G. Brown"
<simon@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Michelle,
>
> There is an enormous amount of iron in beans, green vegetables,
seeds, sea
> vegetables, however, in most cases we do not absorb the iron as
well from
> these sources but it may be that you do.
>
> It might be worth getting a second test just to be sure before
jumping to
> any conclusions. How high was it? Is it coming down or rising?
>
> I think the only medical reason for high iron is a condition called
> hemochromatosis.
>
> I hope this helps,
>
> Simon
>
>
> On 28/6/07 21:52, "Michelle" <ttbeachbum@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > What would cause a female (me) to have high iron levels?  I am
mostly
> > vegetarian (a few shrimp or fresh caught seasonal fish) but not
> > weekly. I do not eat alot of cheese/dairy.  As I mentioned in an
> > earlier post, I am still learning Macrobiotics.  From the cyber
> > reading, I am dumbfounded...
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> > Michelle
> >
> >
> >
>

Thanks, Simon.  I'll read up more on this.  I wonder if these energies are
more mental/spiritual than physical, or if one of the three applies more to
one's metabolism or physical type.  I've tended to have major weight
problems starting around age 36 after I quit smoking (Fire energy!) when I'm
not eating low-fat vegan or macro.  You'd think the Fire would make for a
speedy metabolism but in my case it doesn't.  The surface Earth might tend
me more toward weight issues, possibly?



Best Wishes,
Chad Henry





>From: "Simon G. Brown" <simon@...>
>Reply-To: moderndaymacrobiotics@yahoogroups.com
>To: <moderndaymacrobiotics@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [moderndaymacrobiotics] Re: Macrobiotic Education - The Five
>Elements
>Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 10:49:35 +0100
>
>Hi Chad,
>
>In the nine ki system I use you would be a 968. Deep down midday, summer,
>fire energy, emotions are evening October / November metal energy and on
>the
>surface early morning, January / February earth energy.
>
>All the best,
>
>Simon
>
>
>On 29/6/07 17:05, "Chad Henry" <gregcat@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi, Simon.  My birth date is Oct 9, 1946.  Year is 9, month is 6--it's
>the
> > 3rd number that comes up differently according to different authors.
> >
> > Best Wishes,
> > Chad Henry
> >
> >> >From: "Simon G. Brown" <simon@...
> >> <mailto:simon%40chienergy.co.uk> >
> >> >Reply-To: moderndaymacrobiotics@yahoogroups.com
> >> <mailto:moderndaymacrobiotics%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> >To: <moderndaymacrobiotics@yahoogroups.com
> >> <mailto:moderndaymacrobiotics%40yahoogroups.com> >
> >> >Subject: Re: [moderndaymacrobiotics] Re: Macrobiotic Education - The
>Five
> >> >Elements
> >> >Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 09:47:37 +0100
> >> >
> >> >Hi Chad,
> >> >
> >> >I certainly like and use astrology. I have written and book on nine ki
>and
> >> >use it in my consultations. There are many amazing insights when
>looking at
> >> >the solar system and for example comparing it to quantum physics.
>However I
> >> >do not believe it is some kind of universal truth that can be accurate
>all
> >> >the time. Perhaps it does not work that way, there are too many
>variables
> >> >or
> >> >we have not got far enough in our understanding.
> >> >
> >> >There are many contradictions within and between the systems and
>different
> >> >practitioners will give different readings making it somewhat
>subjective.
> >> >
> >> >Let me know your date of birth and I might be able to shed some more
>light
> >> >on the nine ki interpretation.
> >> >
> >> >All the best,
> >> >
> >> >Simon
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >On 28/6/07 23:24, "Chad Henry" <gregcat@...
><mailto:gregcat%40msn.com> >
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Simon wrote:
> >>> > > "My understanding is that despite a lot of research there is no
>evidence
> >> >to
> >>> > > show that western astrology correlates to any real life
>experience".
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Hi, Simon:  I think our leading western traditional astrologers
>(and
> >>> > > hundreds of lesser knowns) would hotly debate your above
>statement!  It
> >>> > > would take the word of astrologers much wiser and more insightful
>than I
> >> >to
> >>> > > offer persuasive evidence that the seven inner planets mirror the
> >> >movements
> >>> > > of our lives, but I believe they do.  I study a traditional form
>of
> >> >western
> >>> > > mystery school astrology called "horary" (after having also spent
>years
> >>> > > studying natal astrology)--horary is used primarily to answer
>specific
> >>> > > questions--a chart is drawn for the moment of the question,
>somewhat in
> >> >the
> >>> > > spirit of throwing an I Ching reading and is quite effective.
>There are
> >>> > > 2000 years or more of recorded scholarship in this tradition, put
>forth
> >> >by
> >>> > > Ptolemy the Greek who recorded the astrological traditions of
>Greece,
> >> >Egypt,
> >>> > > Babylon, and the Jewish and Arabian astrologers of his time.  We
>also
> >> >study
> >>> > > Christian Astrology by Wm. Lilly, published in the 1700's which is
>also
> >> >a
> >>> > > compendium of previous writing in the field.  (It was called
>"Christian"
> >>> > > more to protect himself from laws against fortune-telling, than to
> >> >profess
> >>> > > some kind of dogmatic approach).
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On our Yahoo list, two recent examples of questions whose answers
>were
> >>> > > correctly predicted were:  the timing of the birth of a baby
>(correct
> >> >within
> >>> > > a few hours) and the return of a lost pet cat (correct within
>about an
> >>> > > hour).  This form of astrology is not fool proof--depends more on
>the
> >>> > > astrologer than the astrology--but we use the seven inner planets,
>and
> >> >the
> >>> > > lunar nodes, and rarely use the three outers--Uranus, Neptune, and
> >> >Pluto.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Having read everything I could about 9 Star Ki, but not having
>studied
> >> >it in
> >>> > > depth, I see corollaries with western astrology--there are
>favorable
> >> >periods
> >>> > > and challenging periods--and there may be ways for optimizing the
> >> >former,
> >>> > > and negotiating the latter in skillful ways in a kind of Taoist
> >>> > > go-with-the-flow approach: plant your garden in the spring, take
>an
> >> >umbrella
> >>> > > if it's raining, look both ways before crossing kind of
>philosophy.  I
> >> >have
> >>> > > a lot of admiration for the 9 Ki system, though it has
>contradictions
> >> >(as
> >>> > > does Western astrology) for instance, whether or not women's birth
>data
> >>> > > should be figured the same or differently from men's, whether 5 is
>5 or
> >>> > > should convert to 2 or 8, etc.  (some of this is just the
>difference
> >> >between
> >>> > > the feng shui school and the Japanese school, I know).
> >>> > >
> >>> > > I'm a 9 but never felt very 9-sh (everybody born in my year is a 9
>of
> >>> > > course); then depending on which system I'm going by, I'm either a
>6 - 9
> >> >or
> >>> > > 6-something else for my month and resolution numbers.  I'd like to
>learn
> >>> > > more about the system.  I'm interested in the 5 element theory.
>My
> >> >partner
> >>> > > of 25 years is a 2 birth year and I'm a 9--some of the books call
>this a
> >>> > > draining relationship for me, and it's true I do an awful lot of
>the
> >> >support
> >>> > > work in the relationship--maybe it would be good to get a third
>person
> >> >under
> >>> > > the roof who was a 3 or a 4!
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Anyway, this is a macrobiotics site, not one for debating
>astrology so
> >> >I'll
> >>> > > let this subject go and spend more time learning about 9 Star.
>I'm in a
> >> >3
> >>> > > year which is apparently good for starting new long term projects,
>but
> >> >my
> >>> > > energy and focus aren't that great--I'm afraid I'm wasting an
> >> >opportunity
> >>> > > here, but I'll try to keep plugging away.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Thanks,
> >>> > > Chad
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

 
 

Hi, Simon.  My birth date is Oct 9, 1946.  Year is 9, month is 6--it's the
3rd number that comes up differently according to different authors.

Best Wishes,
Chad Henry

>From: "Simon G. Brown" <simon@... <mailto:simon%40chienergy.co.uk> >
>Reply-To: moderndaymacrobiotics@yahoogroups.com <mailto:moderndaymacrobiotics%40yahoogroups.com>
>To: <moderndaymacrobiotics@yahoogroups.com <mailto:moderndaymacrobiotics%40yahoogroups.com> >
>Subject: Re: [moderndaymacrobiotics] Re: Macrobiotic Education - The Five
>Elements
>Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 09:47:37 +0100
>
>Hi Chad,
>
>I certainly like and use astrology. I have written and book on nine ki and
>use it in my consultations. There are many amazing insights when looking at
>the solar system and for example comparing it to quantum physics. However I
>do not believe it is some kind of universal truth that can be accurate all
>the time. Perhaps it does not work that way, there are too many variables
>or
>we have not got far enough in our understanding.
>
>There are many contradictions within and between the systems and different
>practitioners will give different readings making it somewhat subjective.
>
>Let me know your date of birth and I might be able to shed some more light
>on the nine ki interpretation.
>
>All the best,
>
>Simon
>
>
>On 28/6/07 23:24, "Chad Henry" <gregcat@... <mailto:gregcat%40msn.com> > wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Simon wrote:
> > "My understanding is that despite a lot of research there is no evidence
>to
> > show that western astrology correlates to any real life experience".
> >
> > Hi, Simon:  I think our leading western traditional astrologers (and
> > hundreds of lesser knowns) would hotly debate your above statement!  It
> > would take the word of astrologers much wiser and more insightful than I
>to
> > offer persuasive evidence that the seven inner planets mirror the
>movements
> > of our lives, but I believe they do.  I study a traditional form of
>western
> > mystery school astrology called "horary" (after having also spent years
> > studying natal astrology)--horary is used primarily to answer specific
> > questions--a chart is drawn for the moment of the question, somewhat in
>the
> > spirit of throwing an I Ching reading and is quite effective.  There are
> > 2000 years or more of recorded scholarship in this tradition, put forth
>by
> > Ptolemy the Greek who recorded the astrological traditions of Greece,
>Egypt,
> > Babylon, and the Jewish and Arabian astrologers of his time.  We also
>study
> > Christian Astrology by Wm. Lilly, published in the 1700's which is also
>a
> > compendium of previous writing in the field.  (It was called "Christian"
> > more to protect himself from laws against fortune-telling, than to
>profess
> > some kind of dogmatic approach).
> >
> > On our Yahoo list, two recent examples of questions whose answers were
> > correctly predicted were:  the timing of the birth of a baby (correct
>within
> > a few hours) and the return of a lost pet cat (correct within about an
> > hour).  This form of astrology is not fool proof--depends more on the
> > astrologer than the astrology--but we use the seven inner planets, and
>the
> > lunar nodes, and rarely use the three outers--Uranus, Neptune, and
>Pluto.
> >
> > Having read everything I could about 9 Star Ki, but not having studied
>it in
> > depth, I see corollaries with western astrology--there are favorable
>periods
> > and challenging periods--and there may be ways for optimizing the
>former,
> > and negotiating the latter in skillful ways in a kind of Taoist
> > go-with-the-flow approach: plant your garden in the spring, take an
>umbrella
> > if it's raining, look both ways before crossing kind of philosophy.  I
>have
> > a lot of admiration for the 9 Ki system, though it has contradictions
>(as
> > does Western astrology) for instance, whether or not women's birth data
> > should be figured the same or differently from men's, whether 5 is 5 or
> > should convert to 2 or 8, etc.  (some of this is just the difference
>between
> > the feng shui school and the Japanese school, I know).
> >
> > I'm a 9 but never felt very 9-sh (everybody born in my year is a 9 of
> > course); then depending on which system I'm going by, I'm either a 6 - 9
>or
> > 6-something else for my month and resolution numbers.  I'd like to learn
> > more about the system.  I'm interested in the 5 element theory.  My
>partner
> > of 25 years is a 2 birth year and I'm a 9--some of the books call this a
> > draining relationship for me, and it's true I do an awful lot of the
>support
> > work in the relationship--maybe it would be good to get a third person
>under
> > the roof who was a 3 or a 4!
> >
> > Anyway, this is a macrobiotics site, not one for debating astrology so
>I'll
> > let this subject go and spend more time learning about 9 Star.  I'm in a
>3
> > year which is apparently good for starting new long term projects, but
>my
> > energy and focus aren't that great--I'm afraid I'm wasting an
>opportunity
> > here, but I'll try to keep plugging away.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Chad
> >
> >
> >
>
>

 
    

----- Original Message -----

From: Klara LeVine

To: moderndaymacrobiotics@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 8:20 AM

Subject: Re: [moderndaymacrobiotics] Re: Macrobiotic Education - The Five Elements

boy, now you've lost me!!!!!

 

all I got out of that, Dottie, is you must be a very interesting soul!!!!!

 

Klara

"Simon G. Brown" <simon@chienergy.co.uk> wrote:

Hi Dottie,

You have an interesting mix of sunrise, March energy deep down (tree), midnight, December emotional energy (water) and sunset, September energy on the surface (metal).

All the best,

Simon


On 27/6/07 21:12, "Dottie Roseboom" <rosedot@insightbb.com> wrote:

 
 

Hi Simon,  Not being doom & gloom sounds great to me!  Several years ago, I read several 9-star ki books. Probably need to refresh some of the concepts.

Funny that you should ask about my date of birth, as 55 years ago today (June 27) I was born, making me a 3-tree, with a 1 childhood, and a 7 resolution. If I remember correctly Princess Di had similar numbers.

Sounds like there's a lot for us to learn about the elements.

Thank you.

Dottie

----- Original Message -----
 
From:  sbmacrobiotics <mailto:simon@chienergy.co.uk>  
 
To: moderndaymacrobiotics@yahoogroups.com  
 
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 12:19  PM
 
Subject: [moderndaymacrobiotics] Re:  Macrobiotic Education - The Five Elements
 

 
 

Hi Dottie,

That is one theory, although this year is a soil year,  also not compatable with wood in the
classic  interpretation.

Personally I think that when we look at five elements  we can choose to look at them as all
positive and that when mixing them  whatever comes out will be constructive in different
ways. I find it hard  to accept the doom and gloom interpretation some people give it, but  
that's just me! Why not use an interpretation or parception that fills us  with hope rather
than anxiety.

If you use nine ki astrology you can  find out which energy you will feel more this year. Let
me know your date  of birth and I can tell you more.

All the best,

Simon

And  are people of the tree energy in not a particular good year this year, because  of
metal's influence?
 
Dottie R

--- In moderndaymacrobiotics@yahoogroups.com <mailto:moderndaymacrobiotics%40yahoogroups.com> ,  "leslieanneashburn"
<leslieanneashburn@...>  wrote:
>
> Sure!! I'm game... I'll do some  observing....
>
> Hope Portugal is fantastic. Leslie
>  
> --- In moderndaymacrobiotics@yahoogroups.com <mailto:moderndaymacrobiotics%40yahoogroups.com> ,  "Simon G. Brown"
> <simon@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi  Leslie,
> >
> > You are welcome.
> >
> >  Yes you could play with your musical theme to see how different
>  styles of
> > music make it easier to embrace certain emotions and  see if you
> can describe
> > this in terms of times of day or  seasons. Do you want to give it a
> try?
> >
> >  Love,
> >
> > Simon
> >
> >
>  > On 15/5/07 23:23, "leslieanneashburn" <leslieanneashburn@>  
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
>  > >
> > >
> > > Hi Simon,
> > >  
> > > My teacher once posed a question for all of us to pay  attention
> to
> > > the types of music we listen to  throughout the day. Are we
> > > attracted to rock music in the  midday for example (fire energy),
> vs.
> > > something  else at night (water energy)??? That was an interesting
> > > way  to think about the 5 Elements that I hadn't considered.
> > >  
> > > Another thing that fascinates me is about the quality  of
> > > relationships according to seasons/Elements... like  the idea that
> > > they can be more passionate and romantic in  the summer time, for
> > > example.... i wonder about how much  this is true??? Of course
> there
> > > are other variables  (like our own 9 star ki) that would also come
> > > into  play.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the historical  information. I've never heard it
> described
> > > in this  way. It's wonderful to think about.
> > >
> > >  Leslie
> > >
> > > --- In moderndaymacrobiotics@yahoogroups.com <mailto:moderndaymacrobiotics%40yahoogroups.com>
>  > >  <mailto:moderndaymacrobiotics%40yahoogroups.com> , "Simon  G.
> Brown"
> > > <simon@> wrote:
> >  >> >
> > >> > Hello All,
> > >> >  
> > >> > The five elements are indeed an amazing model for  
> understanding
> > > and one that
> > >>  > is not all conceptual as we all have and do experience them in
>  > > real life.
> > >> >
> > >> > I  would like to begin by taking us back to the origins.
> > >>  >
> > >> > The current thought is that civilisation  began along the
> banks of
> > > the Nile
> >  >> > and spread through India to China. As humans turned to
>  agriculture
> > > one of
> > >> > the vital  understandings for survival was some working
> knowledge
> >  > of the
> > >> > seasons. Otherwise there was the risk  of planting too early
> only
> > > to face
> >  >> > further frosts or too late.
> > >> >
>  > >> > The speculation is that these early civilisations could  plot
> out a
> > > calendar
> > >> >  according to the lunar phases and the summer (mid summer ­
>  longest
> > > day) and
> > >> > winter (mid  winter ­ shortest day) solstice and spring and
> autumn
>  > > equinox
> > >> > half way between the solstices  and when the whole globe
> shares the
> > > same
>  > >> > night and day phase.
> > >> >
>  > >> > In China this cycle was developed into pattern and given  the
> names
> > > of
> > >> > elements.  The important thing to remember here in later
> > > discussions is  that
> > >> > the elements are only names, they could have  just as easily
> been
> > > named by
> > >>  > landscapes, animals or plants.
> > >> >
> >  >> > Originally the elements were arranged with earth in the
>  centre and
> > > then
> > >> > wood, fire, metal  and water around earth. These were arranged
> so
> > > that  wood
> > >> > was in the east and related to sunrise and  spring, fire to the
> > > south
> > >> >  relating to midday and summer, metal to the west relating to
>  the
> > > sunset and
> > >> > autumn, water to  the north relating to night and winter.
> > >> >
>  > >> > Later the elements were changes so that earth became part  of a
> > > circle
> > >> > between fire and  metal. Earth could then relate to late
> summer and
> > >  the
> > >> > afternoon.
> > >> >
>  > >> > In China the days of the week, months years took on the  names
> of
> > > the five
> > >> >  elements and were paired into yin and yang. So a calendar
>  would
> > > start with a
> > >> > yang wood day,  the a yin wood day, yang fire day and so on.
> > >> >  
> > >> > The point is if we take this as the base of the  five elements
> we
> > > all have
> > >>  > experienced thousands of days and quite a few seasons so we
>  know
> > > inside us
> > >> > what each energy  really is.
> > >> >
> > >> > If we want  to know and experience water energy we can go out
> into
> >  > nature at
> > >> > midnight during the winter and  actually feel it. One reason
> why
> > > water is  the
> > >> > more mystical of the elements is that compared  to the other
> > > elements we tend
> > >> > to  have less experience of it. I am usually in bed and not
> > >  tramping around
> > >> > fields and woods.
> >  >> >
> > >> > From here we can start to think and  feel what kind of foods,
> > > dishes, meals,
> >  >> > emotions, flow of energy, cooking styles might relate to  each
> > > element or in
> > >> > reality phase  of nature (day and year).
> > >> >
> > >>  > If this makes sense please feel free to play around thinking
> of  how
> > >> > different foods might take on the character of  different
> elements
> > > or how
> > >>  > your mood might be described in terms of the time of day or
> >  > season. Do you
> > >> > feel in a sunrise, spring mood  today or more night time and
> winter?
> > >> >  
> > >> > Looking forward to hearing different  thoughts.
> > >> >
> > >> > Best  wishes,
> > >> >
> > >> > Simon
>  > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On  15/5/07 13:43, "Melanie" <mel528@> wrote:
> > >> >  
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >  
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >  
> > >>> > > Hi Carmel
> > >>> >  >
> > >>> > > The 5 elements are a wonderful way  to classify many many
> things -
> > > seasons,
>  > >>> > > emotions, tastes, cooking styles, foods, specific  foods
> like
> > > grains, organs,
> >  >>> > > health problems.
> > >>> > >  
> > >>> > > It is interesting that you use water  energy for liquids
> which of
> > > course makes
>  > >>> > > sense. Water energy can also be used to classify  different
> > >>> > > foods/emotions/seasons etc  - in terms of foods you can put
> sea
> > > vegs  there,
> > >>> > > season is mid winter, vegs are  roots, grain is buckwheat,
> taste
> > > is salty,
>  > >>> > > emotions are fear/courage, organs are  Kidney/bladder - so
> there
> > > you go with
> >  >>> > > liquids again. If you are always thirsty it might be  that
> you
> > > are having too
> > >>>  > > much salt, bread or dry foods like crackers, toast,
> cookies  or
> > > animal/dairy
> > >>> > > food.  You can see that dry foods would effect the flowing
> energy
>  > > of water and
> > >>> > >  kidney/bladder.
> > >>> > >
> > >>>  > > It is fine to drink if you are thirsty though - liquids
>  effect
> > > our emotions so
> > >>> > >  mild teas, water, hot juices, soups are probably best for
>  daily
> > > use. Icy
> > >>> > > drinks  can makes us feel frozen inside and keep things
> locked in
>  > > and so it is
> > >>> > > ideal to have  drinks at room temperature or hotter. You
> could
> > >  also try a hot
> > >>> > > water bottle on the lower  back to relax the kidneys.
> > >>> > >
> >  >>> > > Hope that helps
> > >>> > >  Melanie
> > >>> > >
> > >>> >  > -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>> >  >> >From: Carmel El tarot de Carmel <eltarotdecarmel@
> >  >>>> > >>  <mailto:eltarotdecarmel%40yahoo.es> >
> >  >>>>> > >> >Sent: May 15, 2007 1:46 AM
> >  >>>>> > >> >To: moderndaymacrobiotics@yahoogroups.com <mailto:moderndaymacrobiotics%40yahoogroups.com>
>  > >>>>>  <mailto:moderndaymacrobiotics%40yahoogroups.com>
>  > >>>> > >>  <mailto:moderndaymacrobiotics%40yahoogroups.com>
>  > >>>>> > >> >Subject: RE:  [moderndaymacrobiotics] Macrobiotic
> Education -
> >  > The Five
> > >>>> > >> Elements
>  > >>>>> > >> >
> > >>>>>  > >> >Could we stard with WATER and follow the elements,
>  tree, fire,
> > > soil, metal?
> > >>>>>  > >> > About Water element. I would like to know how to
>  control if
> > > we do well
> > >>>> >  >> with the water element. How much quantity of liquids,
>  water
> > > should we drink?
> > >>>> >  >> Sometimes I have my mouth dry and drink too much tea,
>  water,
> > > several kind of
> > >>>> >  >> teas (camomille, ...).
> > >>>>> >  >> > To be in balance is the secret. How to reach the
>  balance
> > > with the water
> > >>>> >  >> element? We can see the same with the other elements.
> >  >>>>> > >> >
> > >>>>>  > >> > If we balance with the elements our mind and body
>  will be
> > > balanced. The
> > >>>> >  >> point is that we HAVE TO KNOW WHEN IT IS BALANCED.
> >  >>>>> > >> >
> > >>>>>  > >> > Any suggestion?
> > >>>>> >  >> > We can also see the remedies for each element, may
> be  it can
> > > help us to be
> > >>>> >  >> in balance with the five elements.
> > >>>>>  > >> >
> > >>>>> > >> >  Thanks.
> > >>>>> > >> > Carmel
>  > >>>>> > >> >
> > >>>>>  > >> >sbmacrobiotics <simon@ <mailto:simon%
>  40chienergy.co.uk> >
> > >>>> > >>  escribió:
> > >>>>> > >> > Dear Group  Members,
> > >>>>> > >> >
> >  >>>>> > >> >Here is the title for another part of  our macrobiotic
> > > education series.
> >  >>>>> > >> >
> > >>>>> >  >> >Would anyone like to start off with any thoughts on
> the  five
> > > elements?
> > >>>>> >  >> >
> > >>>>> > >> >This is an  ancient Chinese model that is used in such
> diverse
> > >  activites as
> > >>>> > >> feng shui,  martial
> > >>>>> > >> >arts, astrology,  cooking, acupuncture, shiatsu, herbs
> and much
> > >  more.
> > >>>>> > >> >
> >  >>>>> > >> >In macrobiotics it is an interesting  way to connect
> our food
> > > to our physical
>  > >>>> > >> health and
> >  >>>>> > >> >emotions. The five elements also has  much to offer when
> > > looking at how to
> >  >>>> > >> mix different
> > >>>>>  > >> >foods and give a meal a particular emphasis.
> >  >>>>> > >> >
> > >>>>> >  >> >Best wishes,
> > >>>>> > >>  >
> > >>>>> > >> >Simon
> >  >>>>> > >> >
> > >>>>> >  >> >
> > >>>>> > >> >
>  > >>>>> > >> >
> >  >>>>> > >> >
> > >>>>> >  >> >
> > >>>>> > >>  >---------------------------------
> >  >>>>> > >> >
> > >>>>> >  >> >LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo.
> >  >>>>> > >> >Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1  céntimo por minuto.
> > >>>>> > >> >http://es.voice.yahoo.com
>  > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Melanie Brown  Waxman
> > >>> > >  www.celebrate4health.com
> > >>> > >  www.bebabywise.com
> > >>> > > info@  <mailto:info%40celebrate4health.com>
> > >>>  > > Author: The Cooklets, Bless the Baby, Yummy Yummy in my
>  Tummy
> > >>> > >
> > >>> >  >
> > >> >
> > >
> > >
>  > >
> >
>

    

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Your Vegan Alternative

The people who have read my book Feed Your Tiger , Amazon Short, and The China Study by T. Colin Campbell, know that we advise to eat much less or no animal protein in order to live longer and better. Here is a smooth, deliciously light tempeh recipe using provencal herbs.

•    1 sheet of dried kelp, soaked for ten minutes and cut into strips.
•    1 package of Tempeh (fermented soybean cake)
•    2-3 Yukon gold or other white potatoes
•    organic carrots, red pepper and onion to taste
•    shiitake mushrooms with stems removed
•    Your favorite fresh herbs–dill, oregano, thyme, coriander, tarragon or other cut into small pieces with a scissor.
•    1/4 cup of hemp seeds (high in omega 3 & 6 oils)

I like the Tempeh with soybeans, rice, and vegetable. Cut it into small cubes. Cut all the vegetables you want to use (carrots, red pepper, onion, and mushrooms) into similar cubes.

In a glass baking dish, first place the strips of seaweed on the bottom to resemble a seaweed pie crust. Then place layer on layer of tempeh, potato, carrots, shiitake, hemp seeds, and fresh herbs. Add 2 Tbsp. lemon juice for moisture. Salt and pepper or other spices such as cumin and coriander as you like.

Cover the baking pan with a top or foil and bake at low heat 200 degrees for an hour or until the ingredients are soft enough to eat.

What Provencal Herbs Do–i.e., The Chinese energetics of common herbs.

•    Garlic - stimulating, antibiotic, can overstimulate the liver, use less if you have a temper.
•    Cumin, coriander, and fennel - cooling and digestive. Cumin is useful for ulcers, coriander as a diuretic, and fennel as a soothing digestive, turmeric is anticancer, caraway is digestive for bloating

Fresh Herbs:

•    Marjoram -antibiotic, antiviral
•    Parsley - diuretic
•    Dill–cooling, diuretic
•    Thyme - warming and clearing for lungs - running congestion and chest tightness
•    Tarragon - improves liver function, cooling, relaxing, enhances the flow of bile - use a lot during spring

Ilanit

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