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Dana Beal <dana@...> wrote:
From: Dana Beal <dana@...>
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 21:27:10 -0400
Subject: [mayday] GMM 2005 #44: Sept 10-16--Global Free Marc Protests @ Canadian Embassies!; Columbia, Rapid City, Tallahassee Make 90 Cities Already Signed up for May 6, 2006--the Million Marijuana March
Important: get your city on the list for the Million Marijuana March, May 6, 2006!So far we have confirmed 88 cities:
Albuquerque
Amsterdam
AntwerpAthensAtlantaAuckland
BakersfieldBaselBernBirminghamBoiseBoone
BoulderBudapestBuenos AiresCalgaryCapetownChicoChristchurchCincinnatiColumbiaCordobaDallasDarwinDunedinEugeneFayettevilleFlorianopolesFt. Smith
HachitaHalifaxHartfordKansas CityJyväskalaKnoxvilleKristiansandLausanneLethbridgeLimaLocarnoLondonLos AngelesLuxembourgLuzernLyonMinneapolisMoscowNagaokaNashuaNanaimoNashvilleNew YorkNicosiaNimbinOgdenOsloPaiaParisPhoenixPortlandPortlandPragueRaleighRapid CityRio de JaneiroRoanokeRomeRosarioRostockRotterdamSalemSan DiegoStavangerSteamboat SpringsSteven's PointSt. LouisStockholmTallahasseeTel AvivThunder BayTorontoTraverse CityTromsøeTrondheimTucsonViennaWarsawWashington, D.C.Wellington
Zürich---------
There is also some international MMM networking going on at
this CannabisCulture.com message forum:
http://www.cannabisculture.com/forums/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=current
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I applogize it has taken me so long to reply. I would still like to have a march in Tallahassee '06 and in the wake of Marc Emery's arrest my personal hero and role model, I feel it is my duty to do something before all personal freedoms we have in the US are gone. Dana I have no clue where to begin please help me.Sincerely, Susan------------------From: jjfarm@...Dana:
Re: Rally in Detroit, Sept 16 to support Marc.
Excellent suggestions and I intend to follow up on them. One comment/announcement re, #5 however. Rallying in support of Marc is not limited to Canadians only.
Michigan NORML is planning a massive (we hope) rally in Detroit, Sept 16th in support of Marc Emery. I am coordinating this event and your message is very timely as I have been spending the past couple days sending out e-mails to various organizations inviting them to particpate. Below I have cut and pasted the announcement we have posted to the NORML Canada Forum. Please give serious consideration to atttending if at all possible. Please spread the word to any interested parties or individuals. We are hoping for a large contingent from Canada. Thank you for any assistance you can give in spreading the word.420420420420420420420420420420420420420420420420420420420420Michigan NORML is planning a major rally in Detroit, Sept 16th. Originally we were going to focus on medical MJ, there are 3, possibly 4, medical MJ initiatives that will appear on local ballots around Michigan next Nov. (We got it passed in Detroit and Ann Arbor last year. ) With the recent arrest of Mr. Emery, we want to expand our focus to include demonstrations supporting Marc and opposing the heavy handed tactics of the DEA, the people whose salaries we pay and who are supposed to be keeping us safe, not dinking around in Vancouver with a seed merchant. We are hoping that we can attract a large contingent from Canada as well.We chose the date Friday, Sept 16 because several organizations are having conferences in the Detroit area that week, all with the common theme of Substance Abuse. The culmination of these multiple Confabs will be for all the participants to converge on Hart Plaza (the major downtown Detroit public space, located on the river front) in the morning and then Ford Field (the football stadium a few blocks away) at noon for what is being billed as the "Largest ever anti-drug rally in Michigan history." They are predicting at least 10,000 and possibly as many as 25,000 attendees.Michigan NORML is planning a major rally of our own. We are planning various acts of street theater. I would say acts of "clown terrorism" but that's a no-no word these days. So I'll stick with street theater. (Clown terrorism/street theater--just silly stuff to rattle the drug war cheerleader's cages. Nothing violent, nothing illegal, nobody gets hurt. ABSOLUTELY NO VIOLENCE,NOTHING ILLEGAL,NOBODY GETS HURT.) Anyway, we are also hoping to have a large contingent of Canadians come over to join us. Bring flags! We can promise you that you will be warmly welcomed and we very much want to stand shoulder to shoulder in solidarity with our brothers and sisters from the Land of the Maple Leaf.One other thing on the no-no list. It is the express policy of Michigan NORML that we do not do smoke-ins or publicly flaunt the law. I would hope everyone would have the good sense not to try to bring anything illegal across the border anyway, but just in case let me say it--do not attempt to bring anything illegal across the border!
So please, pass the word far and wide. This is going to be huge and the drug war cheerleaders have already done a lot of our work for us by sending out mega press releases, etc, so we'll get tons of coverage.
Sept 16. Detroit. 9:00 Hart Plaza. 12:00 Ford Field. Bring flags, a fun attitude and your own street theater acts. Do not bring anything illegal (on the other hand, any brown glass bottles labeled MOLSEN are welcome, lol) There will be a social hour afterward. Refreshments will be served.Please feel free to forward this invite to any interested parties.e-mail me at jjfarm@... <mailto:jjfarm@...> if you have any questions or if you think you'll be attending.-------------------------New Listings for May 6, 2006 by Phone--Columbia: Dan Viets (573) 443-6866 office [(573) 819-2669 cell] danviets@... [15 N. 10th St.Columbia, MO 65201] or Amber Langston ail9f5@... SSDP Pres, University of MO (573) 256-8589 268-9056Rapid City: Bob Newland <newland@...> 605-255-4032 http://www.sodaknorml.org/ [Bob Newland, H C 89 Box 184A, Hermosa, SD 57744]-------------------------------------------MARIJUANA: DENVER SAFER INITIATIVE HEADED FOR NOVEMBER BALLOT A voter initiative that would make Denver the first large city in the country to legalize marijuana possession is headed for the November ballot. http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/398/saferinit.shtml----------------------------------------------------"Allen St. Pierre" <allen@...> wrote:Hello All,Well...apparently our government indeed is trying to stop not only supposed'criminal' activity, but also the legal/legislative efforts to changecannabis laws.Here is the smoking gun statement from DEA proving it IS political:"Today's arrest of Mark (sic) Scott Emery, publisher of CannabisCulture magazine and the founder of a marijuana legalization group,is a significant blow not only to the marijuana trafficking trade inthe U.S. and Canada, but also to the marijuana legalization movement.""Hundreds of thousands of dollars of Emery's illicit profits areknown to have been channeled to marijuana legalization groups activein the United States and Canada. Drug legalization lobbyists now haveone less pot of money to rely on."--Karen P. Tandy, Administrator of the Drug Enforcement Administration(DEA)Well...there it is...Marc is as much of a political threat in the eyes ofthe US govt as he is a 'criminal'.Regards and enjoy your weekend,-AllenNORML-------From: tents444@...
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Marc Scott Emery. Free Canada's Prince of Pot!
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U.S. seeking life sentence for selling seeds.
http://news.google.com/news?q=marc+emery
http://www.canada.com/vancouver/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=d3aa799f-0e0a-45b3-9a56-2ddea3403741
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Vancouver Sun. (British Columbia, Canada). July 30, 2005.
http://www.canada.com/vancouver/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=d3aa799f-0e0a-45b3-9a56-2ddea3403741
Uncle Sam orchestrates Vancouver pot busts
'Prince of Pot' Marc Emery Nabbed in Halifax: Seed shipping business shut down by police
Brad Badelt and Amy O'Brian; With Files From Richard Chu and Jennifer MillerVancouver SunSaturday, July 30, 2005[Photo]
CREDIT: Ian Lindsay, Vancouver SunWhile pot advocate Marc Emery was being arrested in Halifax, his supporters gathered outside his Hasting Street store to protest the U.S.-directed raid on the premises with signs and flags.
Pot advocate Marc Emery was arrested Friday in Halifax after his marijuana-seed shipping business on Hastings Street was shut down by police as part of a sweeping investigation instigated by U.S. authorities.
Vancouver police raided Emery's multi-million-dollar business on a request from the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), while angry protesters gathered outside chanting "Go home USA."
Emery, 47, referred to as "The Prince of Pot" on the search warrant, was arrested by the RCMP and police in Halifax.
He is charged in the U.S. with several drug-related charges, including conspiring to distribute marijuana seeds and launder money.
Gregory Keith Williams, 50, and Michelle Rainey-Fenkarek, 34, both alleged to be involved in the long-established business, were also arrested in Vancouver on similar charges.
Tempers flared in Vancouver Friday when four protesters were arrested after attempting to block a police van loaded with seized goods from Emery's company, Mark Emery Direct, which is located in a storefront at 307 West Hastings.
The store also houses the office of the B.C. Marijuana Party and Pot-TV.
Chris Bennett, manager of Pot-TV, said he was working in Emery's Vancouver office Friday morning when two undercover Vancouver police officers approached him.
"I was on the phone and these guys walked in -- they looked like hippies or something -- and they told me to hang the phone up," Bennett said.
"I said, 'What's this all about?' and they said they were the VPD."
Bennett was told to leave the premises while police began their search and seizure.
"They just sent me out," he said. "They didn't even search my body."
The search warrant included all records pertaining to the Marc Emery Direct seed-selling business, including client lists, invoices and employee records from as a far back as September 1995.
Police took down storefront signs and covered the windows with paper, while about 25 chanting protesters banged on makeshift drums outside.
Two American flags were hung upside-down on a nearby fence.
"This is a place where people could pull out a joint and not have to fear being reported to the police, and that was okay with Canadians," said David Malmo-Levine, who was one of the four protesters later arrested.
"It's really an attack on our sovereignty."
The search was requested by the U.S. government through the Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters Act, a federal law administered by the Department of Justice.
The warrant was authorized Thursday in B.C.'s Supreme Court, based on an affidavit provided by a Vancouver police officer.
U.S. authorities say the warrant was the result of an 18-month investigation of Emery's international seed-selling business.
The investigation involved about 38 DEA offices across the U.S. and allegedly linked marijuana seeds sold by Emery to indoor grow operations in several states, including New Jersey, Michigan and Florida.
Jeff Sullivan, assistant U.S. attorney, alleged Friday during a news conference that more than 75 per cent of the seeds sold by Emery were sold to people in the U.S., and Emery was making about $3 million a year selling seeds and marijuana-growing equipment.
"He is a drug dealer," Sullivan said of Emery, who has been in business since 1994.
"The fact is, marijuana is a very dangerous drug. People don't say that, but right now in America, there are more kids in treatment for addiction to marijuana than every other illegal drug combined."
Sullivan said Emery is facing a maximum sentence of life in prison.
U.S. authorities have requested that Emery remain in custody until extradition proceedings are concluded, but Sullivan conceded it could be many months before Emery actually arrives in the U.S. to face the charges.
"We anticipate that it could be anywhere from six months to two years before he is in America facing charges," Sullivan said.
Vancouver police spokesman Const. Howard Chow said Friday the Vancouver drug squad was involved in the investigation for the past 12 months, after U.S. DEA officials provided information about Emery's alleged dealings in the U.S.
Chow confirmed there were no Canadian charges laid.
Asked why Vancouver police hadn't arrested Emery earlier, Chow said that "simply because a person is selling seeds is not enough."
The Vancouver police needed more substantive information, Chow said, which the DEA recently provided.
"It was a matter of priorities and resources."
Halifax police spokesman Const. Mark Hobeck confirmed that Emery was arrested Friday afternoon outside Halifax.
"Once Vancouver's end of the investigation was done today, our members were notified and he was placed under arrest," Hobeck said.
Hobeck said Emery will be remanded until arrangements are made to transport him to Vancouver.
Emery's lawyer John Conroy, who had not yet spoken with his client, said he was preparing for the extradition defence.
"Presumably they are arresting him in order to extradite him to the U.S. to face charges there," Conroy said, adding that an extradition hearing would be based on Canadian law.
"The whole plant is unlawful to possess, but there are exceptions . . . for non-viable seeds and stalks, which I believe is mainly for the hemp industry," Conroy said.
"Viable seeds are prohibited, non-viables are not, but I think it has yet to be determined what that distinction is."
Last year, Emery pleaded guilty to trafficking marijuana -- after being caught passing a joint -- and was sentenced to 90 days in jail in Saskatoon.
The Vancouver property that was searched Friday is registered as the home of the B.C. Marijuana Party and does not have a business licence, according to City of Vancouver spokesman Paul Heraty.
"There's a bookstore and a Pot-TV [station] on site and we've accepted their claim that the profits from those two businesses go towards the political party," Heraty said.
According to the Marc Emery Direct website, it is the largest marijuana seed bank in the world, carrying some 534 strains from a variety of breeders.
Conservative MP Randy White said he was not surprised by the Hastings Street raid and arrests.
"Emery gets arrested all too often," he said, suggesting that the punishment for drug offences in Canada is often to weak.
"It's serious and that's why they [the U.S.] are doing something about it. Our government tends to sit back and wait for a catastrophe."
NDP MP Libby Davies said the arrests go against the views of most Canadians, who support decriminalization of marijuana. (A 2004 survey of 1,000 Canadians by SES Canada Research Inc. found 57 per cent were in favour of decriminalizing the use of small amounts of the drug. The survey is considered accurate within three percentage points, 19 times out of 20.)
"I think it's very disturbing that the Vancouver police department is raiding a local business and arresting people for the U.S. war on drugs," she said.
"It feels to me like the long arm of U.S. enforcement reaching into Canada."
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HOW IT UNFOLDED
- Early 2004: U.S. probe begins into Marc Emery's international seed-selling business based at 307 W. Hastings. Nearly 50 Drug Enforcement Administration offices involved including New Jersey, Michigan and Florida.
- Mid-2004: Vancouver Police Department becomes involved in investigation.
- Warrant request: U.S. makes warrant request in B.C. court under a treaty that deals with matters under the Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters Act.
- Thursday: Associate Chief Justice Patrick Dohm of B.C. Supreme Court issues search warrant.
- Friday: Emery arrested in Nova Scotia where he is to attend Hemp Fest 2005 in Lawrencetown. Two others arrested in Vancouver raid. Hastings store searched.
- Next: Emery's extradition to U.S. will be sought. American officials expect a six-month to two-year process.Ran with fact box "How It Unfolded", which has been appended to the end of the story.---------------------------------------------------------------------2006 MMM world map. May 6, 2006 Million Marijuana March. Cities sorted by region. World Cannabis Day. Cannabis Liberation Day. Global Marijuana March. Worldwide since 1999. The first Saturday in May, or that weekend, or thereabouts. Rallies, marches, concerts, events, meetings, parties, raves, info-tables, stands, booths, etc..http://www.geocities.com/tents444/mmm2006map.htm and
http://corporatism.tripod.com/mmm2006map.htm and
http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/y/mmm2006map.htm andhttp://members.fortunecity.com/multi19/mmm2006map.htm
Click the region names in the left chart column to go to their city lists.Click the "countries" link to go to the list of countries.Worldwide.
MMM (Million Marijuana March).City list and world map:***** BUSHWHACKED!! ***************************************************From: j_jonik@...Everyone hates the lying, homicidal cigarette
industry, right? Maybe not. Many just hate the
duped, unprotected, secretly-poisoned victims because
they are, you know, rude.
Anyway, this (below) just popped up while searching
some info on Cargill (top producer of popular toxic
waste, fluoride, and also top producer of
radiation-delivering phosphate fertilizers, which are
used on tobacco despite cell-damaging, carcinogenic
effects on smokers.) Cargill's phosphate fertilizer
mining is done largely in Florida, an "anti smoking",
but NOT "anti-cancer-from-radiation-in-cigarettes"
state.
It's a lengthy list of just some dangerous tobacco
pesticides, and how workers ought protect themselves.
No such warning about tobacco pesticide residues (or
unimaginable combos thereof) appears on packs of
typical cigarettes, however. Talk about "rude", eh?
THIS list gives us a good idea of who the so-called
"tobacco" industry really is...one might say, noting
the chlorine, organophosphate and carbamate chemicals,
who the most deadly members are. This is all the
more interesting because many of these gang members
are also our trusted PHARMACEUTICAL firms, the ones we
depend on for health care, and to whom we give
unconsciounable levels of subsidies for
research...often research into "cures" for the very
diseases they cause in their pesticide/chemicals
departments. When's an Oliver Stone, or Michael
Moore, movie coming out about THIS?
Don't forget to note how many of these tobacco
pesticides come from so-far unindicted, unexposedPhiladelphia area firms who, just maybe, contribute to
our concerned "anti smoking" legislators. (NB: Dow
works w/ Rohm-Haas in pesticide division.)
http://www.griffin.peachnet.edu/caes/tobacco/handbook/worker-stand98.html----------------------------------
Galloway Says Blair and Bush 'Have Blood on Their Hands'
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/080505A.shtml
Tony Blair and George Bush have "far more blood on their hands" than the terrorists who carried out the London tube bombings, George Galloway said today.
Never Again? How the War in Iraq Spurred a New Nuclear Arms Race
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/080505B.shtml
As the world prepares to mark the anniversary of Hiroshima, Iran is poised to go nuclear amid a new global arms race.Nicholas D. Kristof | Another Face of Terrorhttp://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/073105X.shtmlTom Engelhardt | A Thief on the Court?
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/072905Q.shtmlEngelhardt considers why the widening story of the role of Supreme Court nominee John Roberts in the Republican effort in the Florida 2000 election recount has had next to no impact so far on his prospects, and why the Democrats haven't taken this up as the issue of issues.
Peacekeepers Accused after Killings in Haiti
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/072905R.shtmlEvidence is mounting that United Nations peacekeepers shot and killed unarmed civilians, including children, during a recent raid in Haiti.Marjorie Cohn | Bush Defies Military, Congress on Torture
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/080105I.shtmlA group led by Democratic Senator Carl Levin seeks an amendment calling for an independent commission to investigate the Bush administration's interrogation policies and mistreatment of prisoners, writes TO's Marjorie Cohn.
Roberts Argued against Voting Rights Act
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/080105J.shtmlIn the early 1980s, John G. Roberts Jr. was part of the vanguard of a conservative political revolution in civil rights, advocating new legal theories and helping enforce the Reagan administration's effort to curtail the use of courts to remedy racial and sexual discrimination.
John W. Dean | Hiding Nominee's Records from the US Senate
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/080105K.shtmlIt is difficult to think of anything that might better inform the Senate about Judge John Roberts's attitude and philosophy than those likely to be found in the files of the Solicitor General's office, writes former White House Counsel John W. Dean.
CIA Sued for 'Firing Spy Who Questioned WMD Claims'
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/080105L.shtml
The Central Intelligence Agency was told by an informant in the spring of 2001 that Iraq had abandoned a major element of its nuclear weapons program, but the agency did not share the information with other agencies or with senior policy makers, a former CIA officer has charged.William Rivers Pitt | Something to Choke On, Again
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/080105A.shtmlThere have been two bad moments looming over the horizon for the last couple of weeks. One is still in the offing, and a lot of people who have been watching and working the details should prepare themselves for the ram. The other went down this morning, and a lot of good folks are choking on their own rage right now.Prosecutor Zeros In on Rove, Questions Key Aides
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/080305Q.shtmlTwo aides to Karl Rove, the senior White House adviser, testified last Friday before a federal grand jury investigating whether government officials illegally disclosed the identity of an undercover CIA operative, according to a person who has been officially briefed on the case.-------------------------------------WEEKLY: THIS WEEK'S CORRUPT COPS STORIES This week, we've got cops stealing from drug dealers in Dayton and from the evidence locker in Detroit, and yet another prison guard caught trying to supplement his income. http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/398/thisweek1.shtml****!!! IBOGAINE TREATMENT NOW EURO 1500 IN HOLLAND--CALL SARA, 0113134-624-1770 !!!****From:ptpeet@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] A note From Sean
Sean wrote >Infection cleared, and no sign of endo. There was concern that the same infection that was causing fluid around my kidney could surround my heart, causing endo.
Fortunately that is not the case. The last time I shot dope caused the staff infection which floated to my kidney.<
As an aside (btw, glad to hear you're feeling better and as though your are getting even better all the time, to borrow a Beatles' line), I ran into an old using friend of mine, someone I ran with a LOT on the streets, and got high a LOT with, shooting LOTS of speedballs with this guy, and he's been back in LES this summer. I've run into him three times now in the past couple months/six weeks or so. Each time he's looked worse for ear, but today, third meeting, he was a mess, flithy, sweating his ass off (and no wonder what with the heat and humidity in this city right now, dangerous if you cannot get out of it and are unhealthy or flat out sick), and tells me as he lifts his shirt and turns that he's got a "subcutaneous infection" in his lower back, right over his freaking kidney, and tells me he can't go to the hospital yet because he has to spange up enough money to get to Larchmont (or some similar bodunk ville outside NYC proper, out around White Plains area) to visit his daughter first, who lives with his ex-wife now. I tell him he's nuts, that he should go ahead and go to the hospital if he's already straight and doesn't need to fix immediately, as I and he both know that's what he's really trying to spange up the money for first, THEN comes any ticket (if ever) to visit that daughter. I mention how much easier it is to detox in a hospital, that if it were me I'd leap at the chance to get into the hospital, a clean bed and a bath, some healthy filling food and some relief from the obvious agony that swollen fist-sized lump on his back was causing him. Then I left him sitting there as I went into the Barnes and Nobel right down the street a couple doors and spent 15 minutes or so spending the rest of my christmas giftrcard from V's Dad and step-mom. When I come out, and begin to walk up the sidewalk past him, I debate walking by without saying anything because he appears to be nodding out, but he looks up right as I am passing, so I stop and beging to chat, but he cuts me off immediately with a question."Do you have two minutes?"
I hesitate, saying not really, but then immediately feel like a major shit.
"What's up Dog (his name, I swear, although I'm sure his birth certificate says something else), what do you need? Need me to watch your bag so you can go use a rest room or something?"
He looks at me with the most sad look on his face and says, "No, I think I really need to go to the hospital. Can you call an ambulance from a payphone for me please?"
I start to head for the neast phone, right up the sidewalk immediately (sorry to keep using that word, but it keep fitting the sentences) then remember I have a cell phone now (never thought I'd see the day, but it happened finally just a couple months ago, when I went out to LA to do that TV pilot thing so V and I could call and talk long-distance more easily) so I call and have the dispatch send an ambulance for my friend.
I'm glad to say that I was reminded today of the many blessings I so easily can forget at times or stress, usually self-induced almost every time. There are so many places and there are so many situations I'm not in that I could be, that I just missed being in (knock on wood) that I would do well to keep that in mind when I begin to feel that black depression settling on me, that "oh, poor me, I feel so bad" attitude that can overtake me and is so easy to give in to at times.
Please keep Dog in your thoughts, at least for a moment. Thanks.
Peace and love,
Preston PeetCoyDogsRock@... Subject:[Ibogaine] Re: Wireheads
Preston, I'm not sure what the referenceto David Eddings is but I have
most of his work and he does sword and sorcery ( wizards, kings,
warriors with lots of pionty things) stuff. I love his work bu if thereis more there that I missed I'd like to know...
Thanx
TIGERRIDERFrom:ptpeet@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] Wireheads
He wrote Excession, Player of Games, The Bridge, Look to Windward, The Wasp Factory (one of my all time favorite books btw), Feersum Endjinn (in which he employed a variety of made-up languages, or at least ways of writing the way the charactors spoke, sorta like Clockwork Orange only much more intracate and amazing actually in my opinion), Use of Weapons, Consider Phlebas, Inversions, and...yes indeed actually, he did, I find now looking at the inside front cover of my book, write Complicity, among many other titles too, which I haven't yet read.
Peace and love,
PrestonFrom:tinkerbell.sarah@... Subject:[Ibogaine] Fwd: Today
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: tinkerbell.sarah@... <tinkerbell.sarah@...>
Date: Jul 27, 2005 2:30 PM
Subject: Today
To: MorningWood@googlegroups.com
Today
I was reminded
Of a person I know
That dwells within me
That shines brightly
And can see the wind
a person i once held hands with
And long to do so again
A person who knows
The language of the Earth
Who is unafraid
One who smiles with delight
for no particular reason
Today
I felt the planet move
In a sigh of contentment
Of sorrow
of love
And I longed to be the one to comfort her
To be the person
Who can sing with the birds
And play like the ocean
Who storms within
Who storms without
But the sun returns
Regardless
To shine upon
And to dry her tears
both happy and sad
Today
I saw a glimpse of you
Who holds up the sky
And lets the clouds move freely
Who brings the dawn
Of a new day
And i saw a glimpse of me
All of me
As i was
as i am
as i will be again
Who we all are
Whether we realize it or not
When we are
At our best
Laughing and crying
Screaming to be heard
To feel
To be felt
to belong in our own skin
Today
I saw a mirror image
Another me
Repeated endlessly
In a small frame
And I broke through
Smashing the glass
Fists bloodied
knees on the floor
Sobbing
In relief
of freedom
Fought for
And won
But the cost
Oh, the cost
It is not a bill I have wanted to pay
And now
As I sit amidst the shards
And feel the pain
I have gained
Everything
(25 April 05)
love \
tinkkrista.vaughan@... Subject:[Ibogaine] ibogaine and opiates? to Preston
Preston I'm very curious, you mentioned that you were starting theibogaine maintenance with opiates at the same time. Did you take a
booster and then start, or start afterwards when you had reset your
tolerence?
I know this conversation upsets some people on the list but I am far
more interested in harm reduction then what some person decides is
that right choice for everyone and with the exception of Patrick's
paper and people on this list, there is no other information on this
topic at all.
Thank you Preston if you share, if you don't want to or prefer sending
private email I would appreciate it.KVFrom:rwd3@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] Ibo treatment in Mexico From a long timer of both sobriety and strung out, I found Eric to be very compassionate. I have found Schmooly to be very arrogant but caring and compassionate. Knock it off girls. Or is it all money now? We're well or trying to get that way. At 55 ibo kicked my ass, mule kicked Randy and I d/n get fixed. man, one needs recovery time if he works. Money, money. Eric subs, a friend of Schmooly discounts. I think it's a cult and egos, but what do I know?From:tinkerbell.sarah@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] Ibo treatment in Mexico
The "back alley abortionists" do a hell of a treatment. All hail the
underground, indeed!! They saved my ass, and went on a limb, and
still mother me. I couldn't have asked for a better experience.
While I was forunate enough to have access to a treatment with Mash a
bizillion years ago, I certainly couldn't've done it twice. When I
called the first time, she answered her phone herself, and talked to
me as well as my family when they were convinced i was trying to stick
them for $12,000 to "trip in the Carribean".
When I called her about how much number two would be, I got a rude andabrupt woman who said "It's $10,000." and hung up. Not one returned
call or email.
I couldn't've afforded even half, but she didn't know that.
I digress par usual...
Anyway, I hear ya, down to the suck and fuck sentiments. I'll stick
a gun in my mouth before I ever...but those absolute statements have a
funny way of coming back around to stick their collective feet up my
ass.
Love to you...I'm going to become fabulously wealthy and start an
iboganaut trust fund for treatments. Start a traveliing caravan of
freaks. You want in? :]
Love to you, SeantinkFrom:HSLotsof@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] Ibo treatment in Mexico
In a message dated 7/28/05 12:50:00 AM, captkirk@... writes:
<< AS for the backstreet comment.that's what happens when something isillegal. it has to go underground, that doesn't necessarily mean the backstreet
practitioners are ugly nasty people. But yes I agree a better synonym could
have been found, but at this point in time I am unfamiliar with the
"backstreet Ibogaine providers" that perhaps some people have come across. >>
Hi Captain,
You might find both my written and powerpoint presentations from the New
Orleans Harm Reduction conference of interest.
http://www.doraweiner.org/tohave_hrc.html
http://www.doraweiner.org/have_have_not.ppt
Best as always,HowardFrom:vector620022002@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] lots of humans
--- ekki <ekkijdfg@...> wrote:>is it true that 4000 people are subscribed here?
Patrick posted this a long time ago, I think the list grew by 500
people every six months since late 2000, then topped 7,000 when Matt
Drudge linked the KRON Deborah & Patrick show from the front page of
his site. The KRON video if you missed it was a news broadcast that was
a 10 minute long ibogaine commercial for Dr. Mash and Patrick and
featured nobody except them.
If you're not in the US, Matt Drudge has a huge readership, he is like
the Howard Stern of yellow journalism, his version of watergate was
breaking the Clinton and Monica Lewinsky story. He's also a ultra
conservative republican who put 'hallucinogen that cures drug
addiction' on the front page of his site. Which is a lot more then any
ultra liberal publication has ever done. How's that for irony :)
His site may be ultra conservative, but millions of morons load it upeach day. His hit rate is higher then Fox News, the main disinformation
station in the US :)
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/?url=drudgereport.com
The list is probably over 10,000 subscribers over all the years,
Patrick said the real number was closer to 5,000 since people signed
off or the list threw them off when their mail started bouncing, Howard
listed it as 6,000 in 2004.
I've been on here since the first 6 months, maybe 2,000 people have
posted something over all those years and maybe 500 people have written
more then 95% of all messages here.
Preston has personally written 10% of all the messages that ever
appeared here :)
MindVox is a little psychotic :) in spite of or because of this, it
still hits higher then any other ibogaine site:
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/?url=ibogaine.mindvox.com
It's at 500,000, a slow week ;) Not that Alexa is all that accurate
either because it doesn't list spyware free browsers like firefox,
safari, but for comparison, ibogaine.org is at 4.5 millionth.
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/?url=ibogaine.org
Ibogaine.co.uk is at 5.1 millionth.
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/?url=ibogaine.co.uk
Most other ibogaine sites hit so low they aren't even tracked.
Alexa doesn't track mail, only browsers. If MindVox ever mirrors the
list to a php web portal, it will probably hit the top 1,000 within a
month ;)
Someone should pay be a salary or give me email @phantom.com already.
I've been asking for 4 years now ;).:vector:.From:captkirk@... Subject:RE: [Ibogaine] (OT) Re: [Ibogaine] Wireheads
Humourous authors rock... Terry Pratchett disc world novels.. light good
English humour , Robert Rankin (the case of the voodoo handbag..funny
funny),
Need laughter.
Can't exist without it.
-----Original Message-----
From: Vector Vector [mailto:vector620022002@...]
Sent: Friday, 29 July 2005 9:11 a.m.
To: ibogaine@...
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] (OT) Re: [Ibogaine] Wireheads
Most sci-fi books I really liked by good authors, didn't have any
understanding of addiction at all and it makes for a fake, plastic
hero, anti hero, whatev.
Stephen King has one of his main characters in the Gunslinger cycle
being a junkie from NYC before changing worlds. He has a hard time
getting off heroin and the man in black who is the villain of the
series, fucks with his head alot by promising to open a gateway through
time to NYC in the 70s to 90s, so he can score heroin ;)
Philip K. Dick is great, William Gibson was great but I've gotten bored
of what he is doing nowadays. Neil Gaiman did amazing art with his
Sandman series but his novels haven't done anything for me. I read some
of the Ringworld novels when I was in high school but can't place the
one you guys are talking about..:vector:.From:matt@... Subject:RE: [Ibogaine] dancing bwiti kills my self (ibo & nightlife pt II)
This seems like a good place to post some of my own story. I just recently
re-signed up for this list, I subscribed to the old one 5 or 6 years ago.
My story is much like yours Ron, up to a point. I was addicted to alcohol
from a very early age and suicidally depressed by the time I was 21 and
legally able to drink. I had always done any drug that came around, and any
drug that came around often was a source of problems. But alcohol was
always readily available and I always preferred to go down rather than up.
I have experience with just about every drug of abuse and certainly
something from every broad category (upper, downer, hallucinogen,
whatever...).
In my early twenties I substituted heroin for alcohol. I had tried heroin
before that, but at that point I actually made an effort to stop drinking
using heroin. By that time I had already tried, given up, tried again, and
given up again, getting sober in AA. Well the substitution worked and I
became a regular heroin user and a non-drinker and for a time things got
better. I enjoyed my life again. Needless to say it couldn't last and
eventually I started down the road of losing everything of value in my life,
betraying every trust anyone showed me, and crossing every line I had alwayssaid I would never cross.
And then I remembered that I had read in MAPS about ibogaine and it's
effectiveness in treating heroin addiction. So I sought out a source,
obtained some and took it. My first experience was a powerful trip but did
not work for me and even though I was not dope sick, I was using again 3
days later. So I obtained some more. The second time was a little
different and I stayed clean for 30 days and then returned to heroin use.
So I obtained it again. The third time I was scared from the power of the
previous experience and my addiction battered psyche didn't feel up to afull dose, so I split it with a strung out friend. We both tripped but did
not have enough even to attenuate the withdrawal very well and both of us
used again within a few days. So being a stubborn motherfucker with a strong
desire for the easiest possible way to get where I want to be, I once more
obtained some ibo, this time a larger dose. And I once again got scared and
split it with the same friend and even though we both took a greater dose
that time, it did not work and we both returned to using.
So I gave up on ibo. I used heroin for a few more years, wound up homeless,
friendless, penniless, etc... Did crimes and begged spare change for money
and lost every ounce of self-esteem I ever might have accumulated. I got
the methadone to try and get off the heroin and all I really did was start
using both. The methadone helped me stay well enough to do what I had to do
to get the money for heroin. Predictably, I wanted to die once more. I
moved into my Father's garage and got him to pay for my methadone and I had
no job and no friends and no reason to live. I was in my early thirties bythen.
So after a few years of that, I decided to give ibo another try. I had off
and on stayed in touch with the person who helped me obtain it the other 4
times and I contacted him and he sent it to me again. And that is where my
story changes. It worked. I had a spiritual experience. I could describe
more or less in words what my interpretation was of what happened but I
could never actually relate it in a way that is as meaningful as the
experience was so I usually just stick to the vague but accurate description
that I used above and say that I had a spiritual experience.
As soon as I got clean I knew I had to change some things about how I lived
and operated in this world or I wouldn't stay clean. My friend who I
mentioned above, who did the ibo with me, had gone to NA and somehow managed
to get and stay clean while I was living in my Dad's garage still. We had
both on and off made half hearted attempts to get clean in NA over the years
but until he got clean it had never worked for either of us. So within a
few days of getting clean with the ibo I started going to NA regularly. Now
I have been clean for two years. And not to offend anyone who uses the word
differently, everyone gets to have their own experience, but when I say
clean I mean the way they use the word in NA, which means nothing stronger
than caffeine or nicotine. But just for the record I quit smoking using the
patch about a month before I took ibo so for me caffeine is the strongest
drug I have taken in a two years now.
I think that my last ibogaine experience resolved my most basic objection to
12 step recovery, which was all around the word God. The ibogaine gave me
an understanding of what that word can mean that works for me and it's not
actually any different from the description I saw in Ekki's post below
about, " universal impersonal merciless relentless love".
The irony of all of this is that while I have never shared openly with the
NA community as a whole about my ibogaine experience, I have recently begun
to share it with more people in NA, and some of them are threatened by it.
A drug that interrupts drug addiction is antithetical to some of NA's most
basic premises. Namely that when, "we take drugs in any form we release our
addiction all over again." Since NA is basically my community these days,
(I hang out with people from NA, my friends are all in NA, I met mygirlfriend in NA, my boss is in NA, etc...) I feel a little like I have to
keep my understanding and experience about ibogaine to myself so as not to
alienate myself. I get that their closed mindedness is really their issue
not mine, but they are members of the community where I have chosen to make
my home. I want to stress also that not everyone I have spoken to about it
is so threatened, but the fact that any of the people who I consider to be
my friends was, came as a bit of a shock to me.
Anyway, that's my story. I hope you see some hope for yourself in there Ronbecause I don't believe anyone passes the point of no return from addiction
until they are actually dead. So as long as you're still posting here,
there's a chance for you to experience being clean too.MattFrom:tinkerbell.sarah@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] dancing bwiti kills my self (ibo & nightlife pt II)
After 18 years of heroin and coke, and crack, and whatever else worked
and was available, and multiple trips to methadone clinics and
suboxone docs, i have to say that harm reduction, especially the
wackos at the LES NEP, had a major part in helping me get and stay
clean. They were the only people I knew wouldn't look at me like a
pariah for stumbling in, wrecked, begging for a rehab. They always
found me a spot somewhere, and didn't ostracize me when i came back
for clean works a couple of weeks later, after the next relapse
happened.
I still smoke weed, and occasionally indulge in a glass of wine, but
it hasn't-as of yet-caused me to feel the need to go out and use
anything else. The second it does, that's the end of it.
Progress, not perfection.
I'm sorry that the ibo didn't work for you, and hope you can find somepeace within yourself. It's been a long and brutal road to
semi-sobriety, but I wouldn't change a second of it. I've learned to
take a step back and view all of the shit I've put myself and friends
and family through (as well as the shit I've been put through) with
new eyes, and am trying to draw the strength of survival out of the
misery. I wouldn't trade the foundation of knowledge I've gleened
from all of this, and though I may not be the best person in the
worls, i know that i truly can survive just about anything that comes
my way these days (barring acts of nature and drunk drivers). As long
as i don't stick another freakin' needle in my arm. Well, leg.
Sending you some light and love, and keep posting. There are many who
care. As Sean said succinctly, try not to let the anger and fear of
self to drag you down. We are all worth a decent shot at life, and we
are all worthy of love and diginty. You can get that from all of us,
if you find yourself a bit on the short side.
Love to you
tink
----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Byrne
To: ajbyrne@...
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 9:26 PM
Subject: Some Canadian figures on withdrawals after rapid detox.
Measurement of Symptom Withdrawal Severity in a 24-Hour Period After the Anesthesia-Assisted Rapid Opiate Detoxification Procedure. Teplin D, Raz B, et al. American Journal of Drug and Alcohol Abuse (2005) 31;2:327-335
Dear Colleagues,These authors from Canada should be commended for joining the small group who report aspects of outcomes after commercial rapid detox procedures. However, the only outcome reported here is a clinical withdrawal rating at 1 and 24 hours after the rapid detox procedure in 40 subjects, 70% of whom were dependent on heroin and/or methadone. It is not clear if they were consecutive or chosen in another manner, 'retrospectively'. Seventy five percent of subjects were Caucasian with the remaining 25% Asian.In this seven page article, the 'results' section takes eight lines, using the somewhat clumsy wording: "The average [withdrawal score] for the group supports lowered symptoms over a 24-hour period. For 5 out of 40 patients this was not the case, that is, their change scores were negative, which indicated increased withdrawal symptoms". So, as well as for some whose symptoms became worse over 24 hours, another proportion would have had no significant change in withdrawal ratings, yet these are lumped with the former 35 of 40 subjects given the procedure. It is disappointing that the authors do not apparently trust readers with the raw data, even in a graphic form, giving only a block table of averaged scores.Prospective patients, families and others may be disappointed that a novel, expensive treatment for a chronic condition is only examined for one single day in this publication. It may reflect a prevalent view that some such facilities are less interested in the long term outcomes than in performing the procedure and 'moving on'. This institution has done more than most by publishing a series of outcome findings in a peer reviewed journal.I have looked up the institution on a web search and found two matches. One quotes a figure of $5300.00 (Canadian) for a procedure [http://www.westerndetox.com/price.html accessed 16/7/05], while the FAQ site is 'under construction' which would be something of a disappointment for prospective addicted candidates [http://www.canadadetox.com/English/faq.asp accessed 16/7/05].Another of the linked pages states "As it stands now, 6-8 out of 10 patients who are detoxed successfully will relapse in the first six months, back to their drug of choice. In an effort to dramatically improve those numbers, our centre encourages that all patients participate both in the Naltrexone Pellet Maintenance Program and a structured aftercare program conducted by an addiction specialist." [Thus the suggested treatment will cost more if the naltrexone 'pellets' are chosen.]Thus because the procedure has such a poor reported success rate, the clinic advises an untested and unregistered sub-cutaneous drug treatment as an optional 'add-on'.Everyone in the field knows how earnestly many of our patients are seeking abstinence. It may be this factor which clouds some people's judgment and fuels the use of expensive and unproven approaches. The first unhappy reports of rapid detoxification for opiate addiction were from 1899 [MacLeod, N. Cure of morphine, chloral, and cocaine habits by sodium bromide. Brit Med Journ (1899) 15/4/1899 p896]. The procedure may well be appropriate for some candidates but until some selection criteria are reported with outcome results, we will remain in the dark.comments by Andrew Byrne ..
rickstrcat@... Subject:RE: [Ibogaine] Marc Emery arrested by DEA, in Canada
I just now read this. Totally echo your question about how can they apply US laws in Canada. Is this going to affect buying ibogaine *anywhere* in Canada??
From: kevyn at the Cluster <kevyn@...>
Reply-To: ibogaine@...
To: ibogaine@...
Subject: [Ibogaine] Marc Emery arrested by DEA, in Canada
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 00:59:09 -0600
Just a note, in case you had not yet heard.
The DEA excersised a warrant, remember the DEA is AMerican, not Canadian, to shut down and seize his store in Vancouver.
Then had a press conference, with alot of lies about how much a bad man Marc is.
Then they arrested him in Halifax, on the other coast, still in canada, and have asked to have him extrodited to the US for trial.
what is going on here, where the US can now use their law in Canada?
I will try and find the relevant email contacts and such for anyone interestedkevyn, in AlbertaFrom:vector620022002@... Subject:RE: [Ibogaine] Marc Emery arrested by DEA, in Canada No, Marc being arrested for selling pot doesn't somehow make ibogaine a
controlled substance in Canada. A few deaths will do that probably
since unlike Mexico Canada isn't a third world country.
Ibogatherapy is Andrea, Ibogatherapyhouse was Marc Emery. I think there
are more treatments in Canada above Detriot also happening. The big
deal was that he gave treatment for free, now they're going to try
charging for it.
It's too bad about Marc, didn't know the last time he posted here like
6 weeks ago would be the last time he posted anything. It sucks that
they are using US laws and applying them to Canada but I guess Bush
wants to control more of the world then just the US and the UK, Canada
is next. What really sucks is that if they do extradite him to the US
he has life in prison.
None of it has anything to do with ibogaine's legality, past Marc's
clinic which has been closed since last year anyway..:vector:.From:vector620022002@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] Ibogaine sellers in Europe (or anywhere) that /legally/ ship to Canada Yes and they've been posted here at least 200 times ;) Mostly nobody
will answer that question but there are only 3 sources of ibogaine hcl
that every other treatment provider buys from them every other person
buys from them, the web site selling it buy from them. Deborah Mash has
her own and she's not going to sell it to you, the rest of the world
gets it from two sources, the world's biggest ibogaine hcl dealership,
the holy church of Sacrament of Transition ;) and the third one is the
same place the underground and alot of europe get theirs.
Figure it out, all of it is in the Mindvox links section ;) If you
can't figure it out maybe you shouldn't be dosing yourself with
ibogaine. Anybody can legally ship to canada, it isn't against the law
there.
.:vector:.
--- Rick Strcat <rickstrcat@...> wrote:
In light of the articles about Marc Emery, let me re-phrase the
question:
Are there any *legal* sources of Ibogaine *anywhere* in the world
that ship
to Canada?Thx.From:sandra@... Subject:[Ibogaine] About the Iboga Therapy House project
Hi all,
Sandra here from the Iboga Therapy House project...Haven't been on this list in awhile but I just signed up again recently for the digests so that I could tune in.
I'd like to offer some clarity regarding the Iboga Therapy House:
The ITH is actually a project now run by the Iboga Therapy Society which is now a non profit organisation in BC, Canada. We used to receive private funding from Marc Emery until the summer of last year. Since then however, although Marc is no longer involved, we have continued to keep the dream alive. We ave submitted a proposal to the federal government for funding for our follow-up study of the long term effectiveness of ibogaine treatment in improving quality of life and facilitating recovery. While we are awaiting a decision from them, we have received a small grant from MAPS towards the re-establishment of our new and improved clinic program.
To this effect we are actively working towards re-opening our clinic in October/November of this year regardless of whether we get the funding from the gov't or not.
For more information about our project and our research please see our website ( to be updated again soon) and the MAPS ibogaine page:
http://www.ibogatherapyhouse.net
http://www.maps.org/ibogaine
It's a bit confusing because of the similarity of our project names but Ibogatherapy.org is a project in Ontario, Canada our is located in BC, Canada.
As for Marc Emery we are all hoping that his situation is acknowledged by our government and that they will not allow his extradition into the US where his potential charges are outrageous and the potential sentencing of cruel and unusual punishment by Canadian standards. He has contributed much here in Canada to the plight of the cognitive liberty movement and we fully support him in his battle.
Glad to be back on the list!
Hugs out to all of you for all that you are and all that you do,
Sandra Karpetas
Iboga Therapy House
Project Directorsandra@...From:snporter@... Subject:[Ibogaine] intro I've been lurking here since late last year so I thought it was time
to say hello and out myself because I am going to take the plunge and
try ibogaine in the near future. I've heard a little about ibogaine
here and there but didn't pay attention to it until the harm reduction
conference last fall in new orleans when I had the good fortune to see
patrick's talk at the opening plenery, "if the medical establishment
has decided I suffer from a disease then why the fuck am I doing cold
turkey on cement floors behind bars?" yes indeed! Loved the rant and
when I heard ibogaine at the end of the talk I tuned in, signed up and
been reading here and other sites since then. I've never considered
myself a freak and nothing here disturbs me more then any other
meeting I've been to, only difference is the writing and art is highend and past what most can accomplish or take from the life or un life
thats addiction. I've lived a double life for nearly 20 years, 18 on
heroin while holding down a corp job where nobody knows anything about
what I did when I left the office and 2 on methadone. I've got a month
of vacation time coming up in october and want to give my first go the
best possible shot that I can. I almost expect I will end up needing
more then one session but I like to go into things with the best
expectations. I've never hit bottom exactly, only 1 arrest and that
was a long time ago, never lived on the street and heroin never caused
the rest of my life to go away, I'm married, two kids, good job, I'm
what I'd guess the 12 steppers like to call a functioning addict and
the best I can express is I want to feel some of the life I almost
don't remember from so long ago, it's a longing for something else I
figure and I've run out of veins :^) Wanted to give my thanks to
Howard and Patrick and all of you here who's words i've been reading
for so long, especially enjoy Jeff Gallup, Tink and Preston.
regards to all and sorry for the long letterscottFrom:jeffgallop@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] intro Hello Scott
I am 45 and like you had a long term situation tho my 20 or so years was more evenly split vis a vis heroin and methadone....
I too felt that i was a functioning addict...only one arrest good job..blah blah blah i even said that i thought i was the ideal ibo patient as i hadn't copped on the street nor hung with anyone who did dope for many many years so environment was healthy already.
That's all well and good but assuming you are about my age 45 I would HIGHLY recommend allowing at least the month you are talking about or more and getting away to the beach... sitting home in nyc in freezing cold weather was the absolute worst thing for my post ibo weeks ...You will be RAW and tho you will be clean you wont be feeling well. This is of course just my opinion from my experience but methadone is hard and it takes a long time no month more like 6 to feel better....but DO IT The ibo will push you 3-4 months (again imo only) ahead of the curve compared to any other detox and that along with the Nor Ibo gets you over the ruff spots...Boosters help so plan on them...but two weeks forget it....a month or more yep...but time is a healer your brain has been opiated for 20 years or so -a month is just a drop in the bucketI only say all this because no one said it to me....Tho it is readable in Patricks ibo writings which i am sure you have read .Read them over and over he knows the deal.
I am now about 9 mos post and feel pretty good...But this new world is a double edged sword
When i got into opiates i was a guy doing all sorts of good drugs and such...then slowly the variety of things narrowed and then as my addiction got hold it was basically a one trick pony show. Now that the pony has grown ,lived, and died(?), I find myself almost the same (well the same kind of person)- I enjoy altering my consciousness. I like beer now never did when i was on the Methadone...love it actually. pothead oh yeah! i do an occasional benzo...love psychedelics ( tho that has been a kind of constant as well but well ya know thats different hehehe!!) but what i am trying to say is for me Ibo didn't change me like i thought it would (hoped?) it just did exactly what it is 'advertised' to....got the opiate receptors in my brain scrubbed clean almost painlessly ( a fucking miracle ) and got me through the next couple of months so i could get healing time in and start to live with the new found freedom...
speaking of freedom going out to Oregon this weekend for a big time fun festival with my favorite music- String Cheese Incident...during the day they have workshops and play shops to amuse the gathered freaks and one of the workshops is "the politics of altering consciousness" and with out saying names one of the women on that panel did IBO many many years ago..I am curious and hoping to be inspired enough to bring up the subject of our rooty friend to get the panels feedback..and oh yes besides that i will be Freaking Freely again...wow I must marvel at the freedom i have to do the traveling we have done this summer...Yosemite for the best hippie wedding ever...Sf for a month with our guru Amma( amma.org) and visiting friends and iboangels ....High Sierra music fest...home for more Amma time (eric???) on the road for even more Amma time and now a long weekend (or more??) out for my favorite fest of all...And this is just the first summer since I am not handcuffed...Maybe I will actually do some of the things in my life i have dreamed of while I was too handcuffed to even realize i wasn't doing...wow Thank you Howard, Patrick and Ancient eboga man spirit thing that visited me so gently.....So yes you will "experience some of the life you remember" Scott maybe even more than you rememberSafe travels
wishing all the peacfu...(only kidding Ron *s*)
Freaking Free-ly
Jeff
From:captkirk@... Subject:[Ibogaine] Re: OT again n again... Mindvox welcome Mat, Matt S.
Appprowpraet.. approopiate.... how do ya spell that?? Haven't hung about
enuff four-ums to even know what that is.....
All I know is I've met some cool people here.... getting me thru the long
haul it's taking until I get to launch off into Iboga-space.
Have you read the welcome mat? Matt? It's very cool and helps explain this
space... have to read it myself every now n then to remind me.....
Have to go visit DIVO... literally ran into an old friend, Fyfe who works at
the needle exchange/hep c offices in Dunedin and he said something about a
guy who had been trying to set something up here for Ibogaine... but got
sick of red tape? Anyway, will find out more....could be my break....Kirk xxFrom:dana@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] Fringe Yippie, circa 67-70 (was Wireheadz!)
On Jul 31, 2005, at 1:16 PM, Ron Davis wrote:
Dana:I was living in the city, fringe yippie, circa 67-70. I remember Ruben but not you. Banana Dave was big, Electric Circus, we handed out German one fenning coins, which was 1/4 of 1 cent and fit the subway turnstile. I worked at the Filmore East b/4 Wooodstock. any of this sound familiar? ron
That's funny, the place were I'm writing this, 9 Bleecker, is where they prepared the light show for the Fillmore East. Pablo's Lights, 1967-73.
You would remember me from the smoke-ins in Thompkins Park or the Provo Free Store on East 1st St--1967, the "summer of love." 1967 would be "proto-Yippie", according to Stew Albert--because Yippie as a political idiom didn't get it's name until the New Year's Eve party at Abbie Hoffman's apartment on the last night of 1967. Shortly thereafter, I got out of jail for a weed sale I didn't make, was inducted into the Yippies a week after the founding party by Abbie, and went underground on charges from a very minor LSD bust in August of '67.
It shouldn't have been enough LSD for them to pay attention to, but they were trying to get me for putting on the smoke-ins in Thompkins Park every Saturday for most of that summer--and getting news of it in the New York Times.
Just like they aren't really going after Marc Emery for selling seeds; there are dozens of outfits sending seeds into the U.S.
They're getting Marc for the "money -laundering", i.e, publishling CANNABIS CULTURE, opening the first Ibogaine clininic in Canada and going on national Canadian TV about it, and spending millions trying to legalize pot in elections from Israel to Nevada. Marc's real crime is that he put his money to good use, instead of tooting it up his nose!
Think about it. Imagine HIGH TIMES opening its own ibogaine clinic...
NOT.
That's why Marc's a candidate for ibogiane sainthood. No one else who's really gone out there crusading for ibogaine is facing the death penalty. And remember that original African cultural context, iboga and cannabis are most intimately intertwined. The Twa people say that Iboga is the Mother, Cannabis is the Father (even though it sounds like it should be the other way around; Pygmies have had it the longest of anyone).
So Marc is facing potential execution for facilitating manufacture of something many people on this list take to mellow out the after-effects of ibogaine and to potentiate its anti-addictive effect--something that is intrinsically non-violent and at the heart of the Drug War, which we all work to end.
I digress, but only because his case resembles mine in that some idiot(s) are bound to challenge his standing as a prisoner of conscience.
BTW, did you know that in 1966 Howard Lotsof was charged and convicted of LSD conspiracy by the office of then US attorney Robert Morgenthau? Thanks to Montel Williams, Morgenthau has wrapped himself in the mantle of medical marijuana-- but refuses to meet with ibogaine activists still.
Oh well.Dana/cnwFrom:rwd3@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] Fringe Yippie, circa 67-70 (was Wireheadz!) MEMORY LANE..I WASN'T A PLAYER BUT HAD FUN. HEROIN AND SPEED ALMOST KILLED MEFrom:captkirk@... Subject:RE: [Ibogaine] Fringe Yippie, circa 67-70 (was Wireheadz!) [Capt Kirk] OMGGG I had no idea howard was a crim!!!! Does he have tattoos
also??>>> Ohh myyy and I had in my head a vision of a angel with wings, a
halo (slitely dented and bent like the aol halo smiley...)but a halo never
the less....oh dear oh dear, my image has been shattered. What shall I do?
Luff n giggles
Cappen Koiky xxxxxxxxFrom:rwd3@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] Fringe Yippie, circa 67-70 (was Wireheadz!)
Dana:I remember many smoke ins, mainly from the Lower East side. On my last visit to the city, I was saddened by what I saw in my old neighborhood of East 6th and Ave. A. I could still read the lettering on the awning over the t-shirt shop that was once Gem's Spa...3rd st. and 1st ave. I think..It's all a blur. Use to buy acid in Juarez that was made by Sandoz in Switzerland before it was against the law in the US> I was a bit young, hanging around a dude that lived w/ Kerouac in the writer's later years. Do you remember the Neo-Americans from upstate? I remember the demonstration on New Year's eve at Grand Central Station, 67 or 68, ron.From:tinkerbell.sarah@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] Fringe Yippie, circa 67-70 (was Wireheadz!) I agree about the old neighborhood...never thought i'd see the day
when can you get an amusing chardonnay and grilled white fish on Ave A
most things i say are not an attack- i come off wrong sometimes, and i
apologise. Gem Spa is on St Mark's and Second, i think...
love to you, and don't mind me. I will eventually learn to keep quiet...tinkabashedFrom:rwd3@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] Fringe Yippie, circa 67-70 (was Wireheadz!) you're right, it was 2nd and st. marks, as i'd cut thru it b/c it was on the corner and had two open sides. ronFrom:ptpeet@... Subject:[Ibogaine] Fw: [clarity] Force Feeding Medication to Children - and Killing them
Hi all,
Remember as you read this that we lock up people every single day in this (and many, many other) countries for simple pot use and sales- of flowers.
At the very same time, this sort of thing is going on. The NYPress, while a free weekly, has some pretty reputable reporting enclosed, with some genuine reporting involved. (It's not my favorite paper, leaning a bit too far to the sarcastic right for my usual taste) but this article is well worth a read- just remember to keep a vomit bucket handy.
Peace and love,Preston Peet
----- Original Message -----From: Michael Kane
To: clarity@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 5:09 PM
Subject: [clarity] Force Feeding Medication to Children - and Killing them
http://www.nypress.com/18/30/news&columns/liamscheff.cfm
This is the most sickening report I have read in years.
A whistleblower comes forward and admits that she was involved in force feeding drugs with toxic side effects (admitted by the drug manufacturers themselves) to children which caused them to vomit, have diarrhea, and in some cases die. These were black and Latino orphans in Washington Heights.
These kids are said to be HIV positive. If they refuse the drugs, a tube is surgically placed directly into their stomach forcing them to comply. This was called "adherence."
Some of the kids were taken away from their parents and forced into the ICC clinic, then force fed drugs without parental consent. Here is a portion of the article:
"One girl, a six-year-old, Shyanne-she came in for adherence. She was the most delicate little flower-beautiful, polite, full of life. Her family never gave her meds. So Administration for Children's Services brought her into ICC."
"So, she came in, and started the meds. And it was three months, maybe three months. And she had a stroke. She couldn't see. She was this normal girl, singing, jumping, playing. Then, poof, stroked out. Blind. We were freaked out. Then, in a few months, she was gone-dead."
This is fucking sickening, but entirely true. I couldn't make it through reading this entire article in one sitting. I had to get up, walk outside for a while and take long, deep breaths to even continue on. But everyone should read every word.
In my last email to this list I said I would be sending out an article that proves HIV is not the one and only cause of AIDS. This story is much more important, but for those interested in the latter, here is the link to that report http://www.altheal.org/overview/liamscheff.htm
These kids are said to be HIV positive. If they refuse the drugs, a tube is surgically placed directly into their stomach forcing them to comply. This was called "adherence."
Some of the kids were taken away from their parents and forced into the ICC clinic, then force fed drugs without parental consent. Here is a portion of the article:
"One girl, a six-year-old, Shyanne-she came in for adherence. She was the most delicate little flower-beautiful, polite, full of life. Her family never gave her meds. So Administration for Children's Services brought her into ICC."
"So, she came in, and started the meds. And it was three months, maybe three months. And she had a stroke. She couldn't see. She was this normal girl, singing, jumping, playing. Then, poof, stroked out. Blind. We were freaked out. Then, in a few months, she was gone-dead."
This is fucking sickening, but entirely true. I couldn't make it through reading this entire article in one sitting. I had to get up, walk outside for a while and take long, deep breaths to even continue on. But everyone should read every word.In my last email to this list I said I would be sending out an article that proves HIV is not the one and only cause of AIDS. This story is much more important, but for those interested in the latter, here is the link to that report http://www.altheal.org/overview/liamscheff.htm
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