Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:40:53 -0500
From: Dana Beal
Subject: GMM 2005 #5: NYC Ibo-Forum Feb 20-21; Madrid, Osaka, Salem,
Sapporo, Tokyo Make 121 Cities on the Global Marijuana March May 7, 2005

Important: get your city on the list for the Global Marijuana March, May 7, 2005!

So far we have confirmed 121 cities:

Albany

Albuquerque

Asheville

Athens

Atlanta

Auckland

Bskersfield

Bergen

Berlin

Birmingham

Boone

Boulder

Bristol

Budapest

Buenos Aires

Burlington

Capetown

Cheltenham

Chicago

Chico

Christchurch

Cincinnati

Colorado Springs

Columbia

Darwin

Des Moines

Detroit

Dover

Dublin

Dunedin

East Lansing

Eau Claire

Eugene

Fayetteville

Frankfurt

Ft. Smith

Grass Valley

Hachita

Halifax

Hartford

Hilo

Houston

Hull

Jerusalem

Kansas City

Kristiansand

Lethbridge

Lexington

London

Los Angeles

Lyon

Madrid

Mexico City

Minneapolis

Missoula

Montreal

Moscow

Nashville

Newark

New Paltz

New York

Nimbin

Ogden

Orlando

Osaka

Oslo

Oulu

Paia

Paris

Peoria

Philadelphia

Phoenix

Portland

Portland

Potsdam

Prague

Raleigh

Rapid City

Reno

Richmond

Roanoke

Rome

Rosario

Rostock

Salem

San Antonio

San Francisco

Santa Barbara

Santa Cruz

Sapporo

Sarasota

Savannah

Spokane

Stavanger

Stevens Point

St. Louis

Stockholm

Tallahassee

Tampa

Tel Aviv

Thunder Bay

Toledo

Tokyo

Toronto

Traverse City

Tromsoe

Trondheim

Tucson

Tupelo

Turku

Twin Oaks

Upper Lake

Vancouver

Vienna

Visalia

Waikiki

Warsaw

Washington, D.C.

Wilkes-Barre

Wilmington

Winona

There is also some international MMM networking going on at
this CannabisCulture.com message forum:

http://www.cannabisculture.com/forums/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=current

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Million Marijuana March. Banners, posters, handbills,
flyers. From 2004 MMM. Use for 2005 MMM ideas! Adapt for

your needs! Due to software upgrade problems

only the full-size images and full-size image downloads

currently are working-- go here:

http://www.vienna2004.org/mmm/viewer.php?albid=510&stage=2
or if problems go to the home page URL:
http://www.vienna2004.org/mmm
and then click on "mmm2004"

and then "Banners Posters Handbills"
 

Many of the MMM 2004 banners, posters, flyers, and
handbills were converted from PDF files to the gif and jpg
images found here. The freeware Adobe Acrobat Reader and the
freeware IrfanView were used.
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html

http://www.irfanview.com  - IrfanView is a free image editor
that is useful for adapting these flyers and banners for
your needs. Download the full-size gif images since they use

far fewer kilobytes compared to the 640x480 and 800x600 jpg
versions of the same image. JPG image files are mainly for
photos and images with lots of color gradation. GIF image
files are much better for flyers and banners. IrfanView can
easily edit, reduce, or enlarge gif and jpg images.

These flyer and banner images were found elsewhere in the
photo gallery, and by following links on the MMM 2004 city
list pages, report pages, image pages, etc.. Flyers and
banners for other MMM years can be found through the first
link below: MMM images:
http://www.corporatism.netfirms.com/mmmimages.htm
2004 city list:
http://www.corporatism.netfirms.com/mmm2004.htm
2004 reports:
http://www.corporatism.netfirms.com/mmm2004rep.htm

*****!!!Global Marijuana March--May 7, 2005:  Updates,  Reports!!!*****

From: blair@...

Hi there everyone - Happy New Years

To those who appreciate early intervention public health information, please

find at directory address http://mildgreens.com/mmm/2005mmm printable (A4) MMM
2005 ephemera suitable for consideration and placement in a 'smoke free' zone
near you! or for forwarding to compatriots in arms (or both), elsewise your
empowered also to make your life choices and move on.

Media release(s) on Neville Yates' release from jail features on
http://www.scoop.co.nz.
Neville's release also featured on television (TV3) national network news
twice yesterday.

Nandor celebrates release of Neville Yates
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/PA0501/S00070.htm

Greencross Pleased At Neville Yates Release
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/GE0501/S00014.htm


Cheers,

-- sig. Blair Anderson Christchurch, NZ. http://mildgreens.com http://mildgreens.blogspot.com/ cell phone 025 2657219 ph (643) 389 4065 "The scandal lies in the fact that $100 billion of enforcement money had to be spent before the drug czar's office decided that it was time to develop an agenda for assessing the effectiveness of toughness." Peter Reuter

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Kavasilas" <akavasilas@...>
To: <hemp@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 12:53 PM

Subject: Forward to freinds and MEDIA

MEDIA RELEASE MEDIA RELEASE MEDIA RELEASE MEDIA RELEASE

Monday 17th January 2005

HEMP PARTY ROLLS ON

With barely a voice in Federal Parliament speaking out about the stupidity and

enormous negative impact of the War on Drugs, the HEMP Party, based in Nimbin, is

determined to keep going.

Bob Carr's bragging last week about the record prison numbers in NSW is truly

tragic. Eighty percent of inmates are there for drug related crimes.

People seem to have forgotten that the drug war is actually a contest against anyone

using pain relieving medicines other than those produced by the global pharmaceutical

companies, who are increasingly looking like the bullies they are.

Since the HEMP Party outlasted 21 of the 29 parties in the NSW Senate election our

preference arrangements made no difference to the final result.

HEMP's Annual General Meeting is set for Sunday 27  February at 12 noon in the

Nimbin Hemp Embassy. New members are sought for both the Federal and State

Parties.

"The greatest risk for individuals using cannabis remains getting busted and

the life long stigma that goes with it", said Michael Balderstone, HEMP President.

For further enquiries phone 02 6689 1842.

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From: info@...

Dana,

Please add the following cities on the list for Global Marijuana March 2005:

Tokyo
Osaka

Sapporo

Contact Details for all 3 cities (in Japan):

Cannabist <info@...> http://www.cannabist.org/  +81-3-3706-6885

Thanks and Regards,
Takao Bakuya

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Newsbrief: Black Market Marijuana Finances Maoist Rebellion, Indian Officials Say   1/14/05 

http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/370/maoists.shtml

Authorities in the eastern Indian state of Orissa are complaining that "huge tracts" of marijuana are being grown to finance the activities of Maoist rebels in the state and neighboring territories, the India News reported Monday. Police reported discoveries of "massive cultivation" in at least eight villages in the Chitrakonda and Kalimela blocks in the Malkangiri district, the agency reported.

Chitrakonda and Kalimela are considered strongholds of well-established Maoist rebels who have been operating in the area for years and who have considered the forested areas of Orissa and neighboring Andhra Pradesh a "liberated zone." From their forest bases, the Maoists have been attacking police and landlords for years.

And local authorities are not having much luck persuading farmers to stop growing pot or even cooperate in their efforts. "We are unable to arrest many of them because we do not get enough information. People do not come to us, fearing that the Maoists would kill them. We have arrested 41 persons and seized 27 quintals of ganja over past weeks," district police chief Jani Koil told the news agency." Even if we conduct raid and arrest people, the cultivation and business that are offences punishable under the country's anti-narcotics laws never stop," Koil said.

Another anonymous Indian official complained that peasant farmers are working with the rebels. "The tribals cultivate them and share a major chunk of the revenue with the Maoists. This becomes a headache for us," the official said, on the condition of anonymity. "We are upset because the illegal activities are not only growing rapidly, it is also contributing in increasing the financial strength of Maoists operating in those areas," he said.

The peasant farmers number at least 500 families in the area, officials said.

According to the official, about 500 families of the Gunthawada and Nalagunthi panchayats (village councils) alone depend on marijuana cultivation. The crops are financed by smugglers from Orissa, Andrha Pradesh, Tamil Nadu, and Madyha Pradesh who provide farmers with seeds,equipment, and cash advances, the official said.

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From: NeedelR@...

hey, i just put up a new blog, detailing episodically the secret history of the Jerusalem Marijuana march. check it out!

 

http://cannabischassidis.blogspot.com
 
--yoseph

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Andre du Plessis <goathorn@...> wrote:

    Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:07:21 -0800 (PST)
    From: Andre du Plessis
    Subject: Re: MMM 2005 cities. Update, survey. Million Marijuana March worldwide.
    To: eco man

    Sure no problem =)

    --- eco man wrote:

    > Thanks for the reply, Andre.
    >
    > Can I forward it?
    >
    > eco man
    >
    > -----------
    >
    >
    > Andre du Plessis wrote:
    >
    > HIGH!!
    >
    > Here in Cape Town, at the bottom of Africa, I am
    > finding it difficult to get folk from other cities
    > activated. That is managing to speak one of the
    > eleven
    > languages, and speaking to those that might be so
    > inclined...
    >
    > Farther north of me and the rest of Africa... there
    > are many more languages, my finances can't get the
    > word out in those languages, I embellish everything
    > with the recognisable leaf as that is understood by
    > all with sight.
    >
    > This is my tale of the Dark Continent with many
    > countries, and cities....
    >
    > Andre
    > Cape Town - South Africa
    >

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Course Reversal: Poland Moving From "Zero Tolerance" Toward Eased Drug Laws   1/14/05 
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/370/poland.shtml

After five years of tough new laws aimed at reducing drug use in Poland, the Polish government appears headed for a change of course. In the first formal steps toward revising its drug laws, the Polish Ministry of Health last week published a series of proposed revisions to them. Most dramatically, the proposed drug law revisions would decriminalize the possession of drugs for personal use -- a stark contrast with current harsh policies that punish drug possessors with up to a year in prison and user-dealers with up to eight years. The revisions would also lift some restrictions on who can provide methadone maintenance therapy to heroin users and may open the way to the medical use of substances currently considered to have none, such as marijuana.

The proposed revisions are not all progressive, however. One article in the proposed revisions, Article 69, forbids "promotion of drug use," and could be used to persecute people who wear or sell articles that could somehow be linked to drug use, such as images of cannabis leaves.  A similar law in Russia has led to anti-drug authorities there seizing t-shirts, products with "drug-related" advertising, and even raiding bookstores to censor books they find insufficiently anti-drug.

As is the case everywhere, the most popular illicit drug in Poland is cannabis, according to the European Monitoring Center on Drugs and Drug Addiction (EMCDDA). The country also has significant amphetamine and injection heroin using populations and is the home of "kompot," a weak opiate derived from opium straw. In recent years, Ecstasy has also made an appearance.

While the proposed changes would mark a sea change in the Polish government's approach to drug policy, they are by no means a done deal. The health ministry proposal is now being reviewed by civil society organizations, after which the ministry will again revise its proposal. No major changes are expected at this point, however, since the groups that are now reviewing the proposal are for the most part groups that have lobbied for revisions in the drug law. Then the proposal will move to the Polish parliament for approval.

"It is hard to say if we can get this through," said Kasis Malinowska-Sempruch, director of the Open Society Institute's International Harm Reduction Development Program (IHRD), who was been working with the Poles to move drug reform forward. "The government will possibly change in May, but we hope there will be at least a discussion of this in this session of parliament," she told DRCNet. Given the current parliamentary line-up, Malinowska-Sempruch put the odds of passage at fifty-fifty. "We have a good shot at this," she said.

But the fast-moving process leaves little time for educating parliamentarians, and maybe that is something of a good thing, she noted. "This means there is little time for the opposition to organize."

Artur Radosz of the drug users' group Kanaba.Info also hopes to see quick action -- before new elections may return a less friendly parliament. "It is possible the government will collapse before May and the new parliament and government will be dominated by parties that support zero tolerance," he said. "It would be much better for us if the government held together and we had parliamentary elections at the same time as the presidential election in November," he told DRCNet. "In either case, our battle has just begun, and we will have to fight hard to make this proposal a reality."

For Kanaba.Info, the proposals are welcome indeed, although the group has problems with some particular provisions. "We believe that this proposition, and especially decriminalization of drug possession for personal use, is the first step on the road to developing truly effective and rational policy that is not concentrated on repressive strategy, but on reducing harms done to society and individuals by, actually, illegal drugs," said Radosz. "This proposition in its current form is not perfect, but we hope that together with other Polish organizations working on drug field, we will be able to influence and improve it, so it will be even more based on recommendations made by European Parliament. We hope that the final version of these new drug laws will make it possible to distribute through pharmacies not only expensive synthetic THC drugs, but will allow at least medical patients to grow their own plants."

But while the battle to win parliamentary approval has just begun, the fact that this new proposal has been floated by the Ministry of Health reveals that drug reformers and human rights advocates have been waging a quiet campaign to reform the laws for several years. Conferences on harm reduction and Polish drug policy last summer and fall organized by OSI and the Helsinki Foundation for Human Rights saw nearly unanimous denunciations of the current zero tolerance approach by activists, drug reformers, drug treatment professionals, and politicians alike. OSI's Malinowska-Sempruch also intervened in the debate with a letter in the Polish magazine Politics a year ago this month.

"Poland is a country with some of the most retrictive anti-drug laws in the world," she wrote. "Repressive regulations to not cause a decline in drug use and addiction, however; on the contrary, such laws have played a role in the explosion in drug use in countries like the Ukraine and Russia." Malinowska-Sempruch also specifically criticized laws punishing simple drug possession. "Punishing a drug dependent person is a questionable means of rehabilitation," she noted with remarkable understatement.

"There was a total lack of discussion on the effects of the new drug policy on users and society as a whole," she explained. "A year ago we organized small meetings, strategized on how to move forward, then began engaging with the non-governmental organizations, and held meetings under the auspices of the Helsinki Foundation for Human Rights. The theme was the impact of present drug policy on both users and society. The presentations were very clear -- things as they currently stand are not favorable. The Ministry of Health was present at those meetings."

By last summer and fall, all the pieces were in place. According to Kanaba.Info's Radosz, by mid-summer, the National Bureau for Drug Prevention had prepared reform legislation whose centerpiece was improving the law's language on providing drug treatment for users. The bureau also called for education instead of punishment for persons caught with soft drugs.

But while the bureau had not called for decriminalization of drug possession, by the time the health ministry unveiled its proposal last week, it had added that provision as well. "Representatives of the health ministry attended those fall meetings and officially informed us they were working on drug policy," said a pleasantly surprised Radosz, "and what do you know but they included the decriminalization measure in their proposal last week."

Minister of Health Marek Baliciki deserves praise for the moves, said both Radosz and Malinowska-Sempruch. "When this process began, we were basically focused on making methadone maintenance more available. The major change will be that not only formal medical institutions but also other groups that meet certain criteria could run such programs," said Malinowska-Sempruch. "But in the meantime, the ministry added an additional amendment, the one saying personal possession is not a criminal offense."

While the proposed revisions are a step forward, there is still a ways to go, said Radosz. "The authorities still use the phrase 'drug addict' instead of 'drug user,' and the new policy is designed to provide treatment for drug addicts. They still don't recognize that drug use in most cases does not mean drug abuse, let alone addiction."

Kanaba.Info is also disturbed by the proposed article barring "promotion of drug use." "We do not welcome this provision, and if it becomes part of the law, we will go to court because it violates our constitution, which explicitly guarantees freedom of speech and expression."

Poland may be a staunch ally of the United States, but when it comes to repressive drug policies, even Eastern European friends of the US are falling away from the fold. We will monitor the progress of the Polish reforms.

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Madrid: Martin Barriuso/FAC prensa@... 0034-617-665-875

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US Stands Alone In Hemp Ban, Congressional Research Service Report Says

    Washington, DC:  The United States is the only developed nation that
fails to cultivate industrial hemp as an economic crop, according to
Congressional Resource Service (CRS) report published last week.  Hemp is
a distinct variety of the plant species cannabis sativa that contains
only minute (less than 1%) amounts of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the
primary psychoactive ingredient in marijuana.  Farmers worldwide grow
hemp commercially for fiber, seed, and oil for use in a variety of
industrial and consumer products, including food.

    "In all, more than 30 countries in Europe, Asia, and North America grow
hemp," the report states, adding that the European Union instituted a

subsidy program in the 1990s for hemp fiber production.  "The United
States is the only developed nation in which industrial hemp is not an
established crop."

    Federal law makes no distinctions between cannabis and industrial hemp,
and makes it illegal to grow hemp without a license from the US Drug
Enforcement Administration (DEA).  According to the CRS, "The DEA has
been unwilling to grant licenses for growing small plots of hemp for
research purposes," even when such research is authorized by state law,
because the agency believes that doing so would "send the wrong message
to the American public concerning the government's position on drugs." 
As an example, the report notes that the DEA "has still not ruled on an
application submitted in 1999 by a North Dakota researcher" to grow a
trial plot of hemp in compliance with state law.  More than a dozen
states have enacted laws authorizing the licensed cultivation of hemp for
research purposes.

    "The federal ban on hemp cultivation and production is a direct
outgrowth of the government's absurd war on cannabis," NORML Executive
Director Allen St. Pierre said.  "This report should help to galvanize
support among US farmers, industrialists, and environmentalists for the
legalization and regulation of hemp as an agricultural commodity."

    For more information, please contact either Allen St. Pierre or Paul
Armentano of NORML at (202) 483-5500.  The CRS report, entitled "Hemp as
an Agricultural Commodity," is available online at:
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/RL32725.pdf

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From: tcw@...

Hi Dana,

Sorry you had to track me down to get Minneapolis listed for this year's MMM.  But I need you to make some minor changes.

I need you to change:

"Minneapolis: Chris Wright  TCW@... Phone: Doug Daubenspeck 651-653-8243 Grassroots Party  [Chris Wright, 5304 Falcom Ct., Edina, MN 55436]"

 

to read:

"Minneapolis: Chris Wright  tcw@... Phone: Doug Daubenspeck 651-653-8243 NORMLMN  [Chris Wright, 6304 Falcon Ct., Edina, MN 55436]"

Thanks,

Chris

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From: mercy_salem@...

Dear GMM Team-mates,

Salem, Oregon will be rallying and marching again this year.

Assemble 11:30 at North end of Capital Mall
Salem, Oregon on Sat., May 7th, 2005
at High Noon we march.  The Route:

W. Summer to Court,
Court to Liberty,
Liberty to Center,
and back to W. Summer (Mall)
Rally follows.  Contact:

MERCY Center
1675 Fairgrounds Rd.
Salem, OR  97303
503.363-4588
email: MERCY_Salem@...

or visit:  www.MercyCenters.org

Thank You!

  Perry

  webster

  MERCY

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From: GemellaPickle@...

Hi Dana - as you know, Oregon NORML is committed to MMM '05. Could you please make certain that any collateral (posters, PR, etc.) for MMM '05 shows us as 'Oregon NORML'. Some older info you have still shows PDX NORML. We have not been PDX NORML since 2001.

Thank you v. much!

-Alicia Williamson-

Projects Coordinator, Oregon NORML

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From: theenchanteddarby@...

i was wonder what kind of actions i could take to get the march to occur here in seattle washington. i am an avid smoker nor am i ashamed, and would love to show my support, as well as a few of my friends and family. Not to mention the rest of the seattle metro area. If you are aware of the hemp fest 2004  here it was a great turn out! i would love to have the same happen with this march. my friends and i have all discussed these issues about our lovely president and cant stand to see how he is treating our country. i personally feel that this would make another statement about it all. not just marijuana but as well as terrorism and such. thank you for taking the time to read this i look forward to your response.

 thank you Darby.

theenchanteddarby@...

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Please forward widely! Million Marijuana March. MMM.
The MMM 2005 city links are always clickable at these mirrors below.
MMM world map with many more links. Frequently updated:
http://corporatism.tripod.com/mmm2005map.htm and

http://www.corporatism.netfirms.com/mmm2005map.htm and
http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/y/mmm2005map.htm and
http://members.fortunecity.com/multi19/mmm2005map.htm
 
Click the region names in the left chart column to go to their city lists.
Click the "countries" link to go to the list of countries.

Worldwide.

With less than 5% of the world's population
the USA has over 2.2 million of the world's

9 million prisoners!:
http://corporatism.netfirms.com/rates.htm and
http://corporatism.netfirms.com/world.htm

MMM (Million Marijuana March).
City list and world map:
http://corporatism.netfirms.com/mmm2005map.htm

Yahoo Group:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cannabisaction

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*****BUSHWHACKED!!*****

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Black Lawmakers Condemn War On Drugs, Call For Non-Criminal Alternatives

    Philadelphia, PA:  Anti-drug policies that rely on criminal penalties
and incarceration are ineffective and disproportionately impact African
Americans, according to a resolution passed by the National Black Caucus
of State Legislators at their annual Legislative Conference.

    The resolution states: "The war on drugs has failed.  Every community in
the US contends with the harmful effects of drug misuse and related
problems, and while states have continually increased their expenditures
to wage the war on drugs, policies which rely heavily on arrest and
incarceration have proved costly and ineffective at addressing these
issues."  Lawmakers added, "The war on drugs is a major force driving the
incarceration of over 2.1 million people in the United States, with
African Americans disproportionately represented in our country's
overflowing jails and prisons and the war on drugs perpetuates mandatory

minimums, felony disfranchisement, disproportionate over-incarceration,
poor access to health care, under funded public education, widespread
unemployment, and the general criminalization of communities of color in
the US."

    Lawmakers said that they intend to advance drug policies that prioritize
public health rather than criminal penalties, and announced the creation
of a task force "to research and report on the allocation of state
expenditures for all public education and health services and the war on
drugs so that states can understand the real cost of the war on drugs in

the state budgets and in their communities."

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Soros Group Raises Stakes in Battle with U.S. Neo-Cons

http://www.truthout.org/docs_05/011305W.shtml

Homeland Security Nominee Criticized over Post-9/11 Policies

http://www.truthout.org/docs_05/011305Y.shtml

Report: Iraq Now the New Terrorism Breeding Ground

http://www.truthout.org/docs_05/011505Z.shtml

Harold Meyerson | President of Fabricated Crises
http://www.truthout.org/docs_05/011405C.shtml

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From:     junkieshaman@...

Subject:        [Ibogaine] greetings

greetings,
i'm guessing that i might need to introduce myself. my name's chretien and i've been living in mexico this past year. i took the long hard road of heroin addiction for 10 years until i met up with ibogaine. in a nutshell, it saved my life and gave me renewed direction and i've been dope-free for over 18 moons now. woohoo! anyways, i used to be on this list until i got feed up with dead ends and no action, just alot of talk. maybe things are different now, i know they are with me. ok, that's my intro in a nutshell. more later...

mucho amor,

chretien schiffer

From:     stowe01@...

Subject:        Re: [Ibogaine] greetings

 I am new to this site and I am doing ibogaine in feb. Saw your comments and dont know what you mean by dead ends, but I have an idea. Is it the off the wall comments from some people, I guess I am neither not on some peoples level or maybe it is a post ibo language or it is inside conversation, I just dont know. I cant follow what some people are talking about. Any way I am glad that ibogane saved you. I would really appreciate any comments that would help reduce my fear of the ibogaine experience. I have a fear of dying from it. Is that normal .I have read alot on it and I dont see any evidence that it is statistacally dangerous. But the so called experts on the web make you feel like that you are crazy for doing it and more crazy if it is not under stringent medical care. What is your comment on it. Would you be scared to do it again?

From:     Jeffgd1@...

Subject:        Re: [Ibogaine] greetings

we need some more info to make accurate (as we can)statements. what drug are you coming off....where are you being treated....that sort of stuff and age especially if you are scared of dying have you had an ekg and blood work done their are certainly things you can do to ease your fears
I was 45 when treated 10 weeks ago for a 11 year methadone addiction preceded by many many years of dope and other opiates
Ibo works it isn't easy but the best way fro me and many others who have tried all else ....
curious to hear back glad you found it

Jeff

From:     mafinman@...

Subject:        Re: [Ibogaine] greetings re:fear

Hi,
     I'm 5mos+ out from my ibogaine after 20++years of insanity.  I consider it nothing short of a miracle and am aware many times a day how different life is for me now.  I actually cannot picture that I was the one that lived that existance for all those years. When I think back on it occasionally It's like watching a movie and not having any idea who the leading actor is. 
      I'm curious who these "experts" are.  Could they be makers of methedone, or politicians that get rich importing heroin or could it be some provider who wants you to spend a years income to get treated in their "safe surroundings"? Maybe it's my lack of respect for authority (since I was 6) that has me questioning things validity regardless of what someone  with a god complex or financial motives says. You did comment that in what you read you don't find it statistically to be unsafe. Your brain and instincts got you this far.  I'll have a large glass of faith and could I get a shot of confidence to go with that! Glug Glug.  Ok silly but it's a good visualization if in the end you crap out fear!! 
     Fear and people dying,  makes me think of all the people who od'd on street drugs or died of HIV or been thrown off of rooftops or out of windows because of drugs.
 I had no fear at 4:00am crawling into unbricked abandoned buildings on the lower east side or over the bridge in williamsburg and walking up some almost nonexistant stairs to hand a whole lot of cash to some guy and then walk out onto a street full of junkies and cops.  I always figured I had beat out the statistics on all that stuff that I was meant for other things and if all that didn't get me and kill me it wasn't going to happen now.

     Other than wanting hope and salvation from all this (which is what I feel I got) and being practical and taking some precautions I guess the thing would be to get an ekg (which is all I had)  and if there are doubts about your heart an echo cardiogram would reveal more.  Blood work for liver levels if you suspect problems there. 
      I remember after my flooding dose after being dope sick before starting as it hit and I was lying on the bed as all the visuals in my head came on I recall taking a second to realize that my body at that point in time was as still and peaceful as it ever had been.  Pretty good for someone who was just dopesick!
     Physical death is a possibility crossing the street or getting out of the bathtub.  I guess it would depend on how concrete your spiritual beliefs are as to how big a deal in the scheme of things that is.  I remember knowing that death was something that was a possibility and I took precautions to make sure the peoples who's house I was in would take no heat( what's one more dead junkie in the bronx anyway). The rest was something I wasn't going to anxt about because the bottom line was I was doing the ibogaine and let come what may. 
      I wish for you the peace and calm to realize that which you already know.

                                                      Martee

From:     digital@...

Subject:        [Ibogaine] Ibogaine Conference - Chapel of Sacred Mirrors

Uhm ... like, here, or sumthin'

http://ibogaine.mindvox.com/News/2005COSM.html

Nailing Jello to the wall, is not yet, one of my gifts.  (Although, I am nothing if not extremely open-minded and always willing to try new kinks.)

The FACTS (We pause now to giggle) ... such as they are, will doubtlessly change.  25 times.  Between Right Now, and ... Monday.  Once things are more stable, and not FLYING out of everything.  Further updates will be posted.

Unless, of course, everything is still utter and complete chaos, right up until the opening day.  Which would be, about typical.

Anywaze.  This is an EVENT being put on by Cures Not Wars.  If you have any QUESTIONS about, uhm, FACTS or DETAILS.  Ask Dana.  He'll explain EVERYTHING.

What is ABSOLUTELY SOLID is the LOCATION (COSM), and the DATES (Feb 20 & 21).  All of us will be there.  So, if you can make it to NYC.  Show up.  It'll totally fuckin' rock and be a blast.

Plus, also, one giant, extended, 2 day long, clusterfuck, and the opportunity to experience a complete derangement of the senses, without doin' any drugZ even...  Though, I'm sure a variety of WhiteLight Molecules will be FLYING hither and yon.

I didn't actually say that last sentence, up yonder.  It's an ilLusiOn.

God bless us all, everyone.

Patrick

From:     thethird@...

Subject:        Re: [Ibogaine] Ibogaine conference in February

 Hey guys, I live about two hours out of the city and am planning on going to the conference, and don't feel like driving or taking the train home on Sunday night just to turn around and come back Monday morning so I need to know of some cheap hotels in the area. Is there a hotel where the non-NYC residents that are going are all planning to stay at? I can not wait!
Any suggestions on lodging would be great!

From:     stowe01@...

Subject:        Re: [Ibogaine] greetings re:fear

     Martee,

            Thanks so much for your words of wisdom. My provider saw my post and thought that I did not have confidence in him. I told him that it did not have anything to do with him. He asked me if I would be better off if I was under a hospital setting, and I told him no. It is not the provider the setter or the assistants involved, it is the plant itself. I have a little different story than most people that have or considered ibogaine. I have only done drugs for less than three years and my provider says that my habit is as small as he has encountered with ibogaine(100 mg. of hydrocodone per day) He even said that he may be able to cut my dose of ibogaine. But I dont want to do that and cut some of the effects from ibogaine and be sorry. So my reason to send that message was hopefully that I would hear from people that have done it to reassure me it is safe under a good provider with correct dosage as long as I am healthy. I am a statistic person and was trying something to compare it to as far as safety. I know that you can get killed crossing the street. But if I am smart about it and look both ways I have a great chance that I will be ok. I feel like ibogaine is like the unknown with different effects on different people. I am also ok with that unless it may have the effect that it kills some people that take it. I have read that people have died from it and I guess what my real fear was if we really know how many people have died from this since it is a underground deal. I know that I may be way out there, but what I have felt reading alot of post is that most people do this was actually to the point that they were so tired of where they are if they died from it, they were ready because they were going to die anyway. So I guess that you can see a little why someone like me could be scared. I see that the fda has deemed it possibly fatal and then the girls were found dead and then hear people discussing in post that they were ready for whatever because they knew this was there only choice or they were dying anyway. I do worry too much but I took all those things and said to myself "is this thing like a crap shot" I have had some good things said about my provider  but I know nothing solid about this plant. I would think that it is so rare that people could die from it and they wouldnt even know what it is in a autopsy. But anyway I appreciate your words of encouragement they mean alot to me. My faith should be stronger and that maybe something that I need to come to grips with during this journey. It is real wierd what is going on in my life right now. I have had two of the best years of my life in many ways and the drugs actually helped me be productive but all of the sudden I feel to stop and  stop now. I am following through and you gave me some good advice with the faith statement. If you have anytime I would like even more info. Even a little more detail if possible. Not trying to get personal just very curious. I would like to hear about the trip and details how you felt. Anyway I feel like you are helping save me so I appreciate you. When I go through this I will be on this list doing what you are doing j

From:     nick227@...

Subject:        RE: [Ibogaine] iboga experience & therapy- HCL vs. extract

Hi Jen,

Best to check www.ibogaine.co.uk/options.htm for a list of what's available.
If you just want to buy the drug then you need to look at the sections
called "Options for Supply"

Hope things work out

Nick

From:     BiscuitBoy714@...

Subject:        [Ibogaine] Re: [Ibogaine ramblings

Hey list, I just have to say this. Ibogaine still amazes me after almost 4 months. I was properly starting the day (caught, caught) and watching it get light in the woods up here in the Catskills and I came to a couple of conclusions. I've said that this list is sacred ground to me, and it is, but I think sacred ground is wherever you are standing at the time. Ibogaine gave me that. I ALWAYS had to have external things to hold in high regard. Not anymore. I have a peace now that I just can't explain. Ibogaine opened my mind to things I have ignored for a long time. Hell, things I absolutely missed. I just heard some triads and harmonic licks that Mick Taylor did on Wild Horses that I have never heard before. I've been covering that song for 30 years. Well, I might add, but not well enough. I swear I think Ibogaine has made me a better musician. Ibogaine has made me a better person no doubt. Preston said it best a little while ago. He said Ibogaine, or maybe he said an African, (I heard African's when I did it) told him "You know what you know." That's how I feel. I still have my external stimuli, but I'm OK with me now. I have internalized. Thanx list for being here and letting me rant.          Randy

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