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Dana Beal <dana@...> wrote:
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:38:14 -0500
From: Dana Beal
Subject: MMM 2004 #65: ENCOD Calls for British Cities to March!;
Bakersfield, Twin Oaks Make 99 Cities on the Global Marijuana March May
7, 2005Important: get your city on the list for the Global Marijuana March, May 7, 2005!So far we have confirmed 99 cities:AlbanyAlbuquerqueAshevilleAthensAtlantaAucklandBskersfieldBergenBerlinBooneBoulderBudapestBuenos AiresBurlingtonCapetownChicagoChicoChristchurchCincinnatiColorado SpringsColumbiaDarwinDes MoinesDetroitDoverDublinDunedinEast LansingEau ClaireEugeneFayettevilleFrankfurtFt. SmithHalifaxHartfordHachitaHoustonJerusalemKansas CityKristiansandLethbridgeLexingtonLondonLos AngelesMexico CityMissoulaMontrealMoscowNashvilleNewarkNew PaltzNew YorkNimbinOgdenOuluOsloParisPeoriaPhiladelphiaPhoenixPortlandPotsdamPragueRaleighRapid CityRenoRichmondRoanokeRomeRosarioRostockSan FranciscoSarasotaSavannahSpokaneStavangerStevens PointSt. LouisStockholmTallahasseeTampaTel AvivThunder BayTorontoTraverse CityTromsoeTrondheimTucsonTupeloTurkuTwin OaksUpper LakeVancouverViennaVisaliaWarsawWashington, D.C.Wilkes-BarreWilmingtonThere is also some international MMM networking going on at
this CannabisCulture.com message forum:http://www.cannabisculture.com/forums/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=current-------------------------
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These flyer and banner images were found elsewhere in the
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2004 city list:
http://www.corporatism.netfirms.com/mmm2004.htm
2004 reports:
http://www.corporatism.netfirms.com/mmm2004rep.htm*****!!!Global Marijuana March--May 7, 2005: Updates, Reports!!!*****From: farid@...Dear UK friends,
Well I'd like to see more towns listed for the global march for Cannabis liberation : from my point of view, if in 2005 there are general elections in UK, and a "pot party" for decriminalisation of cannabis, then, all your local committees that are running election race should be linked and listed to the list of local events supported worldwide a mass and global demonstration. Then, if you only count on a big gathering in London (like it was in 1999 when I participated), it's up to you, but then I'll understand why politicians are so reluctant to go forward, then WE REALLY NEED a DRUG USERS MOVEMENT THAT IS NOT ONLY URBANISTIC, BUT CAN ALSO MAKE THE LINK WITH RURAL AREAS.
Then the Global March for Cannabis Liberation, in MAY 7th, is the genuine appropriate time and initiative for a cross and non dogmatic rally of conscious peoples from parents to young kids.
Let's join all efforts to make known and identified our movement for legal regulation of drugs market.
Please join you on the Cannabis Worldwide Demo, May 7th by sending an e mail to <dana@...>
All the best,
FARId
Don Barnard a écrit :
> All
>
> PRE-NOTICE Legalise Cannabis Conference 2005
>
> The LCA is holding its national conference in Norwich on February 19 2005.
>
> More information booking forms see.
>
> This conference will concentrate mainly on the election to take place in the
> UK in 2005.
>
> We invite ENCOD and Cannabis/marijuana relates indivdual/organisationsto to
> have an information pack made available to delegates, and any media present.
>
> ****These will have to be with us at no later than 16 Feb.
>
> We have also invited the Home Secretary (Charles Clarke) to put the UK
> governments position in the morning of the 19 February.
>
> PLEASE NOTE: LCA - will not be able to pay expenses "everyone pays their own
> delegate/food bill"
> even the Executive.
>
> Finally. I think you will all agree that the focus of drug laws in EU will
> take place during the next general election the LCA will be getting the
> message out where we can.
>
> If I am not wrong the UK holds the EU Presidency next year!
>
> Don---------------------Newshawk: CMAP http://www.mapinc.org/cmap
Pubdate: Tue, 21 Dec 2004
Source: Times, The (UK)
Copyright: 2004 Times Newspapers Ltd
Contact: letters@...
Website: http://www.the-times.co.uk/
Details: http://www.mapinc.org/media/454Author: Mike Verdin
CANADA POISED TO BACK CANNABIS PAINKILLER
Canada is poised to become the first country to endorse a cannabis-based
medicine after issuing final terms for the approval of a painkiller for
multiple sclerosis patients.
GW Pharmaceuticals said that it was poised to receive approval for its
Sativex drug next year after receiving outline support from Health Canada,
the country's healthcare regulator.
Health Canada has issued a qualifying notice for Sativex, setting out terms
on matters such as marketing, after which endorsement is considered a
formality.
"Under the Canadian system, full approval should be relatively
straightforward from here," Jon Senior, the Evolution analyst, said.
Full consent would make Sativex, which is derived from thousands of
marijuana plants grown at a secret location in England, the first
cannabis-based medicine approved for prescription, GW said.
"This approval will be a major milestone for GW and for people withmultiple sclerosis who have long awaited a prescription cannabis-based
medicine for the treatment of neuropathic pain," Dr Geoffrey Guy, the GW
chairman, said.
He also praised the speed of the Canadian regulators, who have endorsed
Sativex in seven months.
"We are grateful to them for this rapid turnaround time," Dr Guy said.
"Health Canada in their review reflects a welcome recognition of the
clinical need in MS patients for Sativex."
The comments come amid a prolonged drive by GW to win UK approval for
Sativex, which was first submitted to British authorities in March last year.
The Committee on Safety of Medicines earlier this month said that further
study was needed to confirm that the drug was sufficiently beneficial for
patients, meaning that Sativex will not be launched in Britain for at least
six months.
GW shares surged 10 per cent to 116p in early trade before dropping back to
114p, up 9p on the day.----------------------From: gear2000@...Yes, they/we will send you $20 check to cnw at Bleeker addy
to help offset your cost of sending book and tape on ibogaine
and Miehi's (Georgia, Richard, and family circle) will take on
Twin Oaks CA responsibility and work with whomever this year
to help inspire a good Bakersfield MMM event also May 7 Saturday
per http://www.cures-not-wars.org
Cures not Wars, 9 Bleecker St., NYC 10012
Twin Oaks, CA 661-867-2486
http://www.miehi.com
miehi@...
Sat.May7
Outdoor private camping amphitheater
event for growers, patients, public, featuring the
Tidal Wave Music of
The Miehi Family
12534 Rolling Oaks Road
Twin Oaks CA 93518
661-867-2486
http://www.miehi.commiehi@...
Confirmation of this as contact info for TWIN OAKS CA
MMM 2005 organizing --- will also work with
Bakersfield folks and try to get them rolling soon too.
From: Dana <dana@...>To: David Crockett Williams <gear2000@...>
Subject: Re: Dana, please send copy of ibogaine book and video
Date: Dec 19, 2004 7:50 AM
David Crockett Williams wrote:
>>to me for the Miehi* family folks and friends here in mountains>>near Bakersfield where I now have my computer nearby where
>>I am living on the land etc....they will be good for next mayday too.
>>Jack Herer send them, ie, Richard and Georgia Miehi, a copy of
>>his book too and it is motivating them to activism among their
>>sphere here in this area of medical marijuana growers and
>>musicians etc see http://www.miehi.com
>>
>>Richard and Georgia Miehi
>>12534 Rolling Oaks Road
>>Twin Oaks CA 93518
>>661-867-2486
>>
>>I will soon send you confirmation of this as contact info
>>MMM Bakersfield 2005 organizing
>>
>>
>>
Are you saying these folks are the contact for Bakersfield? And if I
send them the book and tape, will they send me $20? (Check payable toCures not Wars, please.)-----------------
Webpage:http://vancouver.cbc.ca/regionalnews/caches/bc_drug-tests20041217.htmlCourt rules probation drug tests unconstitutionalVANCOUVER - B.C.'s highest court has ruled that people on probation shouldn'tbe forced to submit to drug testing. The court says the tests - a common probation
condition - are unconstitutional. The B.C. Court of Appeal was hearing thecase of a man facing such an order. In a 2-1 decision, the court ruled those testsare unconsitutional. It's common for people on probation to have urinalysis,blood, and breathalyzer test requirements. The court found the tests can be
given arbitrarily, and there are no laws in place to protect the man's
privacy.The John Howard Society's Tim Varesh says the decision could mean more peopleon probation could end up being sent back to jail. "If someone is suspected ofbeing under the influence, you'll likely see probation officers and paroleofficers err on the side of caution if they are unable to confirm theirassumptions through urinalysis."B.C.'s Criminal Justice Branch is reviewing the decision, but hasn't decidedif it will appeal. Crown prosecutors are already being told not to ask for drugand alcohol tests to be included in probation requirements. In its conclusion, thecourt found striking down the commonly used conditions may make it difficultto enforce orders keeping people off drugs and alcohol. But the court says it'sup to Parliament to address a gap in legislation.
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Please forward widely! Million Marijuana March. MMM.
The MMM 2005 city links are always clickable at these mirrors below.
MMM world map with many more links. Frequently updated:
http://corporatism.tripod.com/mmm2005map.htm and
http://www.corporatism.netfirms.com/mmm2005map.htm and
http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/y/mmm2005map.htm and
http://members.fortunecity.com/multi19/mmm2005map.htm
Click the region names in the left chart column to go to their city lists.
Click the "countries" link to go to the list of countries.Worldwide.
With less than 5% of the world's population
the USA has over 2.2 million of the world's9 million prisoners!:
http://corporatism.netfirms.com/rates.htm and
http://corporatism.netfirms.com/world.htm
MMM (Million Marijuana March).
City list and world map:
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Yahoo Group:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cannabisaction*************************BUSHWHACKED!!****************************Stephan Said | Iraq's Silent Majorityhttp://www.truthout.org/docs_04/122004Y.shtmlFBI E-Mail Refers to Presidential Order Authorizing Torturehttp://www.truthout.org/docs_04/122204X.shtmlFrom: dendecannabist@...Many Veterans are the "Enemy" of the Bush D.E.A.th War
Sam Stone came home, To his wife and family After serving in the
conflict overseas.
And the time that he served, Had shattered all his nerves, And left a
little shrapnel in his knee. But the morphine eased the pain, And the
grass grew round his brain, And gave him all the confidence he lacked,
With a Purple Heart and a monkey on his back. There's a hole indaddy's arm where all the money goes, Jesus Christ died for nothin' I
suppose. Little pitchers have big ears, Don't stop to count the years,
Sweet songs never last too long on broken radios. Mmm....
Sam Stone's welcome home Didn't last too long. He went to work when
he'd spent his last dime And Sammy took to stealing When he got that
empty feeling For a hundred dollar habit without overtime. And the
gold rolled through his veins Like a thousand railroad trains, And
eased his mind in the hours that he chose, While the kids ran around
wearin' other peoples' clothes...
Sam Stone was alone When he popped his last balloon Climbing walls
while sitting in a chair Well, he played his last request While the
room smelled just like D.E.A.th With an overdose hovering in the air
But life had lost its fun And there was nothing to be done But trade
his house that he bought on the G. I. Bill For a flag draped casket on
a local heroes' hill... There's a hole in daddy's arm where all the
money goes, Jesus Christ died for nothin' I suppose. Little pitchers
have big ears, Don't stop to count the years, Sweet songs never last
too long on broken radios. Mmm....
Sam Stone * John Prine * Souvenirs
http://www.coquet-shack.com/lyrics/Prine/Sam_Stone_2166.htm
Homeless Vets Already Overload Safety Net
The Homeless Vet by Gary Jacobson
In acrimonious harmony outside my cardboard box
Late again for appointment to detox
Misfortune and calamity my pox
The crickets singing seems so monotonous
Throbbing in these times barbarous
Forlornly disingenuous.
They sing to an ambiguous apparition lying there
Still with far away gaze in a thousand yard stare
Far across the sea...back there
To an Asian neverland's nowhere
As people pass on nearby streets without a care
Life, food, drink...home, no longer simple fare.
Continued... http://pzzzz.tripod.com/day.html
http://pzzzz.tripod.com/D/flagwoundedeagle.jpg
System Struggles With Volume of Down-and-Out Vets --
and There May Be Another Generation Coming
Nov. 13, 2004 - "Are they or aren't they really veterans?"
is a question often asked when encountering a homeless person claiming
to be a vet.
There's a good chance they are.
Soldiers Learn to Deal With PTSD
"There is plenty of evidence to show that one-third of [homelessmales] are veterans," says John Baskerville of Swords to Plowshares, a
non-profit veterans support group in the San Francisco Bay area.
`Get Me Off the Street'
Nearly half of the homeless vets are from the Vietnam era. Eighty
percent of them have substance abuse problems.
"I drink," says Richard Smith, a Navy vet. "I'm an Irishman. I drink
heavily."
And 45 percent of them are mentally ill and unlikely to get off the
streets without treatment.
Brian Roth, a Marine veteran, says he has been hopelessly addicted to
drugs since he came back from Vietnam in 1969, and has never had a
home of his own.
"Just get me off the street," Roth says. "I'm tired. Š I'm 55 years
old.
"I'm sleeping with a guy in his van right now," he adds.
According to his records and relatives we spoke with, Roth went to
college after his military service and even completed medical school
at Michigan State before he started getting arrested for writing
illegal prescriptions.
"I know I smell like a skunk and look like one," he says. "But for a
year I've been trying to get into a program, and I will stay there if
they just make it available." continued...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Nightline/story?id=247816&page=1
National Coalition for Homeless Veterans
http://www.nchv.org/index.cfm
333 Â* Pennsylvania Avenue, SE Washington, DC 20003-1148
E-mail: nchv@... Toll Free: 800.VET.HELPVoice: 202.546.1969 Fax: 202.546.2063
Veterans Incarcerated Transition Guide Now Availablehttp://www.nchv.org/news_article.cfm?id=14
http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/culture/media/4/4804.jpg
Homeless Iraq vets showing up at shelters By Mark Benjamin
Washington, DC, Dec. 7 (UPI) -- U.S. veterans from the war in Iraq are
beginning to show up at homeless shelters around the country, and
advocates fear they are the leading edge of a new generation ofhomeless vets not seen since the Vietnam era.
"When we already have people from Iraq on the streets, my God," said
Linda Boone, executive director of the National Coalition for Homeless
Veterans. "I have talked to enough (shelters) to know we are getting
them. It is happening and this nation is not prepared for that."
"I drove off in my truck. I packed my stuff. I lived out of my truck
for a while," Seabees Petty Officer Luis Arellano, 34, said in a
telephone interview from a homeless shelter near March Air Force Base
in California run by U.S.VETS, the largest organization in the country
dedicated to helping homeless veterans.
Arellano said he lived out of his truck on and off for three months
after returning from Iraq in September 2003. "One day you have a home
and the next day you are on the streets," he said.
In Iraq, shrapnel nearly severed his left thumb. He still has trouble
moving it and shrapnel "still comes out once in a while," Arellano
said. He is left handed.
Arellano said he felt pushed out of the military too quickly after
getting back from Iraq without medical attention he needed for his
hand -- and as he would later learn, his mind. continued...
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20041207-121848-6449r.htmInvestigative Journalist,
"Dark Alliance" Author Gary Webb Dead at Age 49
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/367/garywebb.shtml
Phillip S. Smith, Writer/Editor, psmith@..., 12/17/04
Gary Webb, the prize-winning former San Jose Mercury News
investigative reporter whose series on the "dark alliance" between the
CIA and Nicaraguan Contras to import cocaine into the US in the early
1980s ignited a firestorm of controversy, died December 10 an apparent
suicide. He was found in his suburban Sacramento home suffering from a
gunshot wound to the head. A note accompanied his body, but its
contents have not been disclosed.
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/367/garywebb.jpg
While Webb was most notorious for the "Dark Alliance" series, which he
turned into a 548-page book of the same name, he was a reporter whose
interest in drug policy both preceded and extended Gary Webb beyond
the murky world of Reagan-era drugs and guns in Central America. In
1993, while at the in Mérida Mercury News, Webb penned aninvestigative series on asset forfeiture abuse, "The Forfeiture
Racket," which is credited with helping to undo California'sforfeiture law. The series, which appeared as the state legislature
was confronting the issue, documented widespread abuses and helped
turn public opinion against asset forfeiture. The result was a new
forfeiture law that required a criminal conviction before property
could be forfeited.
But it was "Dark Alliance" that both made Webb's name and ruined his
career. While links between Nicaraguan counterrevolutionaries who
helped finance their war through the cocaine traffic and the CIA had
been made previously, Webb's investigative series and subsequent book
took it to a new level, arguing that the conspiracy between the CIA
and the Contras was directly tied to the crack cocaine explosion of
the early 1980s in Los Angeles. The series exploded on the national
media-scape like a roadside bomb and led to surreal scenes like that
in Los Angeles in the fall of 1996 when the head of the CIA was loudly
booed and jeered at a crowded public meeting where attendees held his
agency responsible for the crack epidemic.
But "Dark Alliance" quickly came under attack from the largest
newspapers in the country -- all of which had failed miserably in
reporting the connections between the CIA, the Contras, and the
cocaine traffic. The Washington Post, the New York Times, and the Los
Angeles Times all attacked Webb's conclusions, and his own paper
eventually turned on him. Within a few months of publishing "Dark
Alliance," the Mercury News stepped back from its conclusions and took
Webb off the story. He resigned rather than accept a humiliating
transfer to a state politics beat.
While there were errors in some of the particulars in the series and
subsequent book, its broad conclusions have withstood the test oftime. That the Reagan administration at best turned a blind eye to
drug running by
its Central American proxy armies is now well-documented and
uncontroversial. That some of the cocaine trafficked by the Contras
ended up in the hands of pioneering LA crack entrepreneur "Freeway
Ricky" Ross is
also undeniable.
But Webb suffered as much from the enthusiasm of his supporters as the
slings and arrows of his foes. Some readers were all too eager to
loudly cry "genocide" and to turn his carefully documented findings
into the stuff of conspiracy theories, making it all the easier to
discredit Webb for the ravings of his most extreme followers.
Despite having won more than 30 journalism awards in his career, Webb
was effectively marginalized as a mainstream journalist after "Dark
Alliance." He found work in the California state assembly until he was
laid off after the November elections and had taken a new position
with a California political publication, the Sacramento News and
Review. But even while at the legislature, Webb returned to reporting
on aspects of the drug war. In 1999, he penned a report accusing the
California Highway Patrol of unofficially condoning racial profiling,
but that report, too, was attacked by its targets.
In 2002, Webb attended the DRCNet-sponsored Out from the Shadows drug
legalization conference in Mérida, Mexico, where he signaled his
continuing interest in reporting on drug issues by participating in
the Narco News School of Authentic Journalism and agreeing to for a
time take the helm of the organization itself. But that agreement
proved to be abortive, and Webb soon returned to California and the
state legislature.
"All he ever wanted to do was write," Webb's ex-wife, Susan Bell, told
the Mercury News this week. "He never really recovered from it," she
said, referring to the "Dark Alliance" controversy.
"The guy had a fierce commitment to justice and truth. He cared deeply
about the people who are forgotten, that we try to shove into the dark
recesses of our minds and world," said Tom Dresslar, a spokesman for
the
California attorney general's office who worked with Webb.
On a personal note, I met Gary Webb when he spoke at the Washington,
DC, bookstore where I worked as part of his "Dark Alliance" book tour.Even with his mainstream journalism career in tatters, Webb radiated
conviction and confidence, along with a keen intellect and a quiet,friendly persona. We had a chance to speak briefly. I encouraged him
to continue to seek the truth and expose it to the world. He said he
would. And now he is dead by his own hand.
The world can be a tough and lonely place for those who dare to
challenge the powers that be. Gary Webb found out the hard way, but he
kept on struggling until he could take it no more. -- END --
PERMISSION to reprint or redistribute any or all of the contents of
Drug War Chronicle (formerly The Week Online with DRCNet is hereby
granted.
StoptheDrugWar.org: the Drug Reform Coordination Network (DRCNet)
1623 Connecticut Ave., NW, 3rd Floor, Washington DC 20009 Phone (202)
293-8340 Fax (202) 293-8344 drcnet@...
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Hung Out to Dry: How Webb's Series Died
studioron@... 16 Dec 2004
In 1997, editors at the San Jose Mercury News pulled the rug out from
under reporter Gary Webb and his investigation of the Reagan-Bush
contra-cocaine scandal, a decision that contributed eight years later
to Webb's suicide. To give readers a fuller understanding of that
journalistic betrayal, we are republishing an account written in 1997
by Georg Hodel, a reporter who was collaborating with Webb on his
historic series.
Consortiumnews.com is currently conducting its end-of-year fund-
raising drive, seeking to raise $20,000 so it can continue publishing
into the New Year. So far, thanks to the generosity of scores of our
readers, we are about halfway to our goal. Tax-deductible donations
can be made by credit card at the Internet site or by sending a check
to Consortium for Independent Journalism (CIJ), Suite 102-231, 2200
Wilson Blvd., Arlington, VA 22201. http://www.consortiumnews.com
Dark Alliance: by Gary Webb
The Cia, the Contras, and the Crack Cocaine Explosion
Seven Stories Press, 1998
http://www.freezerbox.com/archive/1998/09/cia/image.jpg
GARY WEBB - "Dark Alliance" - TRT 60 min.
BTV032
Journalist Gary Webb broke the story of the CIA-crack connection in a
series of articles for the San Jose Mercury News. The articles were
quickly attacked by the rest of the corporate media, the Mercury News
chickened out and Gary Webb was fired. Luckily, the entire story is
collected in this book. A precise and informative talk. Dark Alliance
charts the work that began in a stunning series of 1996 articles for
The San Jose Mercury News. Gary Webb won the Pulitzer Prize in 1989
for his series on the Loma Prieta earthquake, and applied the same
tenacity to his investigation of the crack cocaine epidemic, charting
its progress through an international drug ring with ties to the CIA
and the Nicaraguan Contras. A story that should be fiction but is not,
Dark Alliance draws from previously unreleased information so
explosive that The San Jose Mercury News refused to publish it.
Videotapes are $20.00 postage paid for individuals, and $30.00 postage
paid for institutions.Send check or money order to:
Clay Butler
PO Box 245 Capitola, CA 95010
clay@... 831-477-9029
Web Site by Claytowne
http://www.claytowneproductions.comFrom: "Catherine Austin Fitts" catherine@...
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 8:28 PM
Subject: A Prayer for Gary Webb
A PRAYER FOR GARY WEBB
Gary, we gather in our hearts to say farewell
and to tell you how grateful we are for your presence in our lives.
Your courage and your talent helped us to face America's shadow.
Like the Buddha who taught us that the lotus blossoms out of the mud,
your work birthed a living network -- Mike Ruppert, Cele Castillo,
Kelly O'Meara, Al Giordano, Preston Peet, Linda Minor, Alastair
Thompson, Kyle Hence, Ian Inaba, Tom Flocco, Sam Smith and many more -- a new generation of leaders dedicated to coming clean
and rising in the divine power of illumination you inspired.
Gary, my prayers are with you and your family.
I carry in my heart the signature of your honor and
I invoke the words of Chief Seattle who wisely reminded usthat "the dead are not powerless."
Gary, go in peace
with our love,
with our thanks, and
with our praise.
Prepared at the Request of Mike Ruppertfor the Memorial Service for Gary Webb
Sacramento, California
December 18, 2004
by Catherine Austin Fitts****!!!IBOGAINE TREATMENT NOW $1500 IN HOLLAND--CALL SARA, 0113134-624-1770 !!!****From:JasenHappy@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine]re:cigs Julie
Hey Julie,
I am having a hard time with the tobacco
as well. I have not smoked tobacco now for 25 days or so.
I think it is the boredom for me ,Whilst waiting to feel better.
Every now and again I look for my tobacco out of habit,
then realise I don't smoke.
For me it is not craving but more the habit of killing time and doing something with my hands and mouth.
I hope your boyfreind is doing well.
So girl,....How have you been?,you have been quiter than usual.Love Jasen.From:JasenHappy@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] RE: Jasen,ZOE&TOM
Hello List.Well I almost just went home permanentlyI just rode my car off, I had a micro sleep whilst driving,this has never happened before, I woke up after hitting one car on the other side of the roadthen I hit a second car writing it and my car off, luckily not a scratch on any one.
Hey, I am still alive.Unbelievable.love Jasen.From:BiscuitBoy714@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] RE: Jasen Jasen, it's good to hear your OK so now I can joke. See, yall drive on the wrong side of da road. Do the clocks go the other way too? Dude I was pretty tired most of the time for about 6 weeks. I almost did the same thing coming back from NYC after leaving Preston's release party and had to pull over and pay 5 bucks for a cup of Joe and a donut. I was so sensitive to stimuli that I couldn't sleep for 6 more hours after I got home. I hope you can skate without having much problem with insurance. Stay well and I send peace and love to you and yours during the holiday's. RandyFrom:AbbotAngel@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] RE: Jasen,ZOE&TOM
Hi everyone
Jasen that was a close call, bet it got your adrenalin pumping, glad you are ok, have you or anyone heard of a guy called brian he is from Prague he comes to your home and gives you ibogaine £600 plus expenses, I spoke to a guy called mark that he treated in april and he sounded nice. I would appreciate any advice.
love donnaFrom:JasenHappy@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] RE: Jasen,ZOE&TOM I still cannot believe it.Normally I am fully insured,did not pay it before going to Holand,
thought ohh, I'll just pay it when I get back.
It still blows me out that I hurt no-one.I don't understand it I was wide awake,
I mean sh*t I find it hard to sleep.It was like someone just turned me off for 10 seconds.
I woke up after hitting one car,and saw all these cars comming at me swerving,then I hit
one whilst trying to swerve in and out,rode one off,rode my car off,and side swiped another.
When the police came,they said are you on any medication,and hey guess what,..I could say
no.Thet said do you use drugs,Hey,....No, wow.
I can seriously suggest that when people have Iboga/Ibogaine,that you dont drive for at least 6 weeks.
I keep getting pushed,..tested, fu*k,....I am just going to deal with it straight.
There is a silver lining somewhere.
The white dog inside me is still fighting with the black dog,and it is a vicious fight,they won't let me sleep(except when I am driving)
I am feeding the white dog good food,the black dog is weakening,he is a savage son af a b*tch,I will not feed him.
I want to cry for my car,... and laugh for new life.
This is my last test.
I am succedingI am strong.Love Jasen.From:captkirk@... Subject:RE: [Ibogaine] RE: Jasen Woooo Jasen!!!! You'll be running after parked cars next!! It hurts, trust meŠ.
Yes Randy, the clocks DO go the other way, as do the toilet flushings, we stir our cuppa teas the other way and get out of bed counter-counter-backward clockwise (cos remember, clocks go the other wayŠ.)
Had this discussion once with a amerrykan woman into pendulums as we were trying to figure out which way for what in what hemisphere, turns out don't matter, it's individual lol.KirkFrom:JasenHappy@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] RE: Jasen,ZOE&TOM Hi Donna,
It was close,I felt as if I was held in some way,it was a pretty bad accident
and I jumped out like I had just parked the car.Funny enough,after the accident
I was still calm and, ....the same,it was almost like it did not happen,it was surreal.
I knew how big this was, I knew I had not paid my premium, I'd
be paying this off, funny enough, it wasn't reacting with me, it was like
me being opiate free was that/is that huge, that it didn't matter.
Doesn't matter,are you kidding, how am I gonna pay for all this.
It was like I was being assured this was for the best.It didn't matter in the big picture.
You will be good.
People feel me differently
It's like when the opiate is out of your body you give out a different vibe,
people are more responsive,I am tuning into real life,..and you know what ,..
it is really exciting,I cry with happiness and thanks even after such an accident.
Everything around me is saying,"hey, where have you been,welcome back."
I can not say I have heard of Brian from Prague, he sounds great.
If you are in England and you can't get Brian, then Saras is not much more,
and it is an hour flight.
Of the subject,I used to have great long hair which I cut 6 months ago,
thinking that I would be fitting into society better,...What a D*ck.
I want my long hair back,just to give you an idea of how many things the Iboga/Ibogaine
has healed,I now do not give a sh*t whether I fit in or not,...as long as I come from Love.
It will grow again.Hey,...It's growing right now.I am still smiling ear to ear, I am becoming untouchable.with love Jasen.From:fakeplacebo@... Subject:[Ibogaine] To Jasen (yes you are right) Dear Jasen,
That's right. I never made car crash before Iboga. But when I started to feel as strong enough as I can drive; (It was 15 days later after Iboga) when I started to ride my car I made many mistakes and two times crashed car. (was not big deal) but yeah Iboga highly effected to my reflexes with the negative way.
Best RegardsFakePlaceboFrom:slowone@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] RE: Jasen,ZOE&TOM
Jasen, it's wonderful that you survived. Given the driving
accidents that you and FakePlacebo have experienced, I hope thatproviders will start warning people about driving in the weeks post-
ibo, as you suggest. Can you remember what you were thinking before
the accident?Have you gotten into any aftercare?From:AbbotAngel@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] RE: Jasen,ZOE&TOM
Hi hannah
I so hope you are feeling better i have found this guy Brian he is from prague and he will come to your home in the UK and administer ibo its £600 a treatment plus expenses but if he treats a few people the price goes down i have spoken to mark a guy he treated back in april but need to find out more
love donnaFrom:BiscuitBoy714@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] Donna and Kim IL Sung Donna, if your treatment is 600 pounds British, what would that be in American dollars? I am intrigued with the thought of someone from Prague being on the same page as us. Ibogaine is a miracle and it is spreading world wide. We need to get some to North Korea and treat Kim IL Sung. What a freak. He would fit right in. I can see the headlines now. " Communist leader has Ibogaine treatment and dismantles all his nukes and makes bong pipes out of them. Proclaims love for the world." RandyFrom:AbbotAngel@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] Donna and Kim IL Sung
Hi Randy $750 $800 plus his flight $200 this guy Mark he treated said it was fantastic he was really severly withdrawing and had ibo the pain just stopped, he constantly checks you as is it true for 15 hours you can not physically move? and also he has not mentioned having my heart or liver function tested what do you think?? I am so excited at the fact of coming off this shit with little or no pain I keep thinking there has to be a catch????Love donnaFrom:fakeplacebo@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] Donna and Kim IL Sung and Bush Dear Randy,
Do you think we could treat Bush with Iboga? Because He has Nukes and army also. He is killing innocent people all around the world for money more than Kim IL Sung does.
Best Regards
FakePlaceboFrom:BiscuitBoy714@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] Donna and Kim IL Sung and Bush I think Bush should be treated first. I think somebody would donate the Ibogaine if he did. We could make plough shares and bong pipes with all those nukes.Donna, I would get the tests done on my own anyway if I were you and maybe someone here will help you read them. I'm not familiar with this guys treatment method but I don't think you will have to lay still for 15 or 16 hours. The first few hours are the worst for the motion sickness. Everyone is a little different but believe me you won't worry about it. Lay back and enjoy the view, it was beautiful for me. Don't eat for at least 12 hours and drink lots of water for a few days before. Have you ever had any heart problems and is there a history of heart problems in your family? Have you ever had any liver problems? Keep us informed of your progression and I'm sure those more informed than me will help you out. RandyFrom:AbbotAngel@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] Donna and Kim IL Sung
Hi Randy
I just spoke to Hattie wells on the phone what a nice lady anyway this Brian is a friend of hers and she said the same Brian does not request the heart and liver function tests but I should get them done. I have no history of heart problems however my partner has in his family and he might be doing the treatment with me so we will have the tests and see what they say and take it from there. I will have to leave it till the new year now. Thank you for your help
Love DonnaFrom:HSLotsof@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] Donna and Kim IL Sung
You should have an ekg and a blood chemistry including liver panel whether
anyone asks for it or not. Not asking you for a blood chemistry and liver panel
and an ekg is not keeping to best practices for ibogaine therapy. Ask your
anticipated provider why he/she is not asking for the tests.HowardFrom:nick227@... Subject:RE: [Ibogaine] Donna and Kim IL Sung Hi Donna,
Brian is Brian Mariano from Prague. He has a website http://www.ibogainetreatment.net/ and also some treatment notes online at http://www.ibogaine.co.uk/brian.htm He's a nice guy. Yes, you should definitely get your body checked out before taking ibogaine. Heart and liver function must get done. The drug can be pretty strong on the body and it's good to know you're in good enough shape to take it. You might be able to get them done on the NHS, if you have a nice GP or someone at a local drug treatment place he/she can arrange it with a hospital. Otherwise you'll have to make up a good story for the hospital or get them done private.
love Nick
From:wachtel@... Subject:RE: [Ibogaine] 18-MC anti HIV andy,
Could you please be more specific then " I have heard through the underground that Ibogaine is beneficial to AIDS patients". Do you know anyone who can provide us with pre and post Ibogaine CD4 count and other measurements as well? if we can find positive data I don't have to tell you that it could turn out to be super important data at this point.
Besides Randy - can those with HIV or Hep C treated with Ibogaine provide us with the pre and post HIV related results and liver count data and send it to Howard and self?
we are working here in Israel with couple of HIV doctors who will be willing to help with data analysis etc.
All the best
Boaz WachtelFrom:HSLotsof@... Subject:[Ibogaine] DRIVING fakeplacebo and jasen - was/Re: [Ibogaine] To Jasen (yes you are right)
As more and more people are treated with ibogaine a greater diversity ofeffects will be seen. This is normal to all drugs.
Ibogaine Consent Forms should be changed to include a paragraph on operating
machinery or automobiles similar to the warning on package inserts forsedatives, hypnotics or narcotics. I haven't reviewed warning for antidepressantsand other psychoactive drugs but, will do so as soon as I get a chance. Suggest
ibogaine providers do the same.
That being said, we have two distinct descriptions of auto accidents. One
involves reflexes and the other involves either falling asleep or losing
consciousness.
I would appreciate it if both Jasen and fakeplacebo would give as detailed a
description as possible of the effects they experienced that caused the
accidents. Please be as detailed as possible. In Jasen's case has this ever happen
to you before? Were you tired? Could you tell you were tired? As I said
the more detail the better. You can write me via personal email if you feel mo
re comfortable in doing that.
To fakeplacebo. Were you distracted mentally or was it a matter of
misjudging.
Thanks guys.HowardFrom:Schmoolyboy@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine]OT RE: Donna
I have seen data suggesting that immediately post IBO, Viral loads for Hep C and HIV go up slightly for a very short time. With in a month, there is a (anecdotal) 25-35% drop in hep -c viral loads. Is this the IBO or is it just so simple that not doing dope is healthier on the liver?
I do not believe IBO has any direct effect on T cell immunity (Viruses like HIV and Hep C). It appears that as we start to get clean eat and drink water, immunity gets better and that is reflected in the improved labs.
You cannot follow hep c severity by following liver functions. They just don't corollate. You need ultra sensitive viral loads and they are expensive. Many people say "my virus is gone" cause their doc said it was now undetectable on the lab test. Well, the truth is it never goes away EVER. Most viral loads don't measure below a certain level. Any HIV or hep patient should ask there doc for an ultra sensitive viral load by DNA or PCR with no minimum or maximum cutoffs.From:JasenHappy@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] DRIVING fakeplacebo and jasen - was/Re: [Ibogaine] To Jasen (yes you are right)
Hey Howard,
I was driving along,wide awake,maybe three minutes from home,
then simply woke up on the other side of the road hitting cars,it was crazy,
it was sort of shocking,..and almost....I dare say,fun in a way,pretty morbid ay,
it was as if I knew I had to go through this,whilst it was happening.The time between
being fully alert and hitting other cars was maybe 5 seconds.
I was really ok with it,I knew the severity of it,losing my little truck,my beach baby,
Gee,.. missing the beach already,hitting the other cars,inconveniencing people,it was weird,
like I was being told this is nothing compared to the big picture.
Sara did warn me when I wanted to drive her car.
Howard,..I was tired but not sleepy,my body was tired and my mind alert,it was like I was
turned off for 5 seconds,like I needed the big wack,corny,..yes a little,but that is just
how it was,everything was so smooth,I can't find the words.In the back of my mind,..far back,I am thinking ,..she*t,I don't have a car now I have to pay off the other cars,but I am ok with it,
it doesn't matter my being says,everything is smooth.
I have not experienced a micro sleep in a car before.
When I was at Sara's,I was talking to this great girl called Zoe
then all of a sudden she laughs, I look at her confused, she said,"you just went into a deep sleep,
then woke up and started talking again,I had no memory of the sleep.I am more than happy to answer any other questions Howard.From:JasenHappy@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] RE: Jeff.
Hey Jeff,
Should only take me a couple of years to grow,I have had long hair all my life even as a small child
at school,the wild child,some teachers hated me and some loved me,my hair grows very quick.
Now the veil of the Methadone is gone I feel bare with out my hair,..Hey that rhymes,
laughing,...It's like this is not fully me,I am coming out of my cocoon,my weight is dropping my muscles are lifting my walk is changing,
my heart is frolicking,the way I talk is better,my mind is clearer,people look at me differently,I have no craving for heroin,not emotionally,physically maybe,but that is just my bodies memory of how to feel good quickly,emotionally I do not need it any more,most of the painis gone,the type of pain we all experience in life.
I know the physical will / is healing.Most of the emotional is healed I don't need the anaesthetic any more,life seems so much easier.
I do not need a crutch anymore the weight has been lifted.
How long has it been for you Jeff and when did you start feeling better?
It is day 33 for me,still weak but swimming in the mornings for 25 mins(all I can handle)
Life is wonderful. I can still feel the extraction of the methadone,still being grounded.
Forcing myself to do excersise,well my sister is anyway,..she is so beautiful.
I feel strong but weak if that makes sense. I am strong.Love Jasen.From:slowone@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] DRIVING fakeplacebo and jasen - was/Re: [Ibogaine] To Jasen (yes you are right)
I had a few close calls a few years ago in the first weeks of
Paxil: in each case failed to observe a vehicle in plain site
moving on side street toward intersection. Fortunately my
peripheral vision was good enough to spot the unexpected cars in
time as I pulled out. A friend had similar experiences on Paxil and
had accidents. Like Jasen, a gap in consciousness in connectionwith a drug that raises serotonin levels.From:myeboga@... Subject:[Ibogaine] {ot} The Middle East Hi Everyone,I thought these figures were interesting:. Military spending: $319 billion
. Education: $77 billion
. Transportation: $55 billion
. Environment: $27 billion
. HIV/AIDS: $14.7 billion. Peace Corps: $277 million2002 checkbook courtesy of the Office of Management and Budget.When the sea tides start to rise over the land and the first nukes are dropped, we wont have to look far to understand why.I remember growing up fearing nuclear war and the relief that came from all the treaties that were made to limit arms. Now we live in a nuclear free for all.I wonder what kind of group spirit drives people like Bush, Cheney & Rumsfeld? Where does this spirit come from? That I think is an interesting question.Whatever it is its clearly psychotic as they are now talking in the background of regime change in Iran and possible Syria. This I find insane given that the best they can hope for in Iraq is not to lose and even then there will be a very high maintenance.The IRA fought the British government for 30 years and ended in a truce. That was all of the might of the British army concentrated in an area of maybe 6,000 sq miles. The no's of IRA were small - a couple of hundred. Yet, they could not wipe them out.The middle east on the other hand is filled with people who think of death as a reward and is humungous compared to Northern Ireland.The Palestinians are living in an equally small plot of land and the might of the Israeli army - perhaps the best equipped, outside the US, in the world, has failed to make any significant progress after 50 years of struggle.It takes a major tragedy to end major madness.The planet is dying and billions are starving. I would really like to know where in the bible George Bush found his inspiration to follow his deeply held Christian views and pursue this path he is now on?Obviously there is something lacking from my Christian training. Do you think if I pray hard enough to Jesus he will inspire me to start a war too?LeeFrom:bchloej@... Subject:RE: [Ibogaine] {ot} The Middle East It's a spirit of peace-having the moxie to go after the real evil and the pursuit of a higher good. You didn't say anything about the millions of innocent lives that are taken each year (legally) by the person who they would've thought wouldve died to protect them when they've done nothing to deserve death.From:captkirk@... [Ibogaine] belief systems
Well, when your radical Christian beliefs state that you can ruff up the
planet as much as you want cos Jesus is a comin' and he's gonna make things
a-ok again for all the non-sinners and take all them sinners to hell.... sothey don't really care what they do....they'll be looked after come
Judgement day.
Oh joyyyyyy.KirstyFrom:JasenHappy@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] belief systems
Hey Kirsty
There is no hell,as you probably already know.
Every one goes to Heaven.Eventually.
I understand that this is hard to swallow
I understand what you are saying and I assume you are refering
to politics and not Lee.
Politics and most pharm' companies make me angry too.
I understand your frustration Kirsty. Capt.
If and when He comes he comes for everyone,sinners and (if there is such a thing)Non sinners.
He takes no one to hell,He makes no judgment.He see's who we truly are,..all of us.
The decision to go with him is within us.The choice is ours,free will.
No I am not religious,but I believe in the way,the Buddha,Krishna,Baha'u'lla'h Muhammad,Jesus
and many other masters that have walked the earth.
Masters that Knew who they truly were.Who knew they were one with all,who could see who we all were.
In my opinion we are all beings from another realm,pretending to be human.Humans...Being.
We are here to experience what we know to be conceptually true.
I have seen people jump from planes,however I would like to feel it myself,knowing is not enough.
Why would a father throw his child into ever lasting fire,could any father do such a thing.
What is their to gain.
My experience with the Iboga was that the ego falls away into a black abyss,and you return to the loving
bright wondrous light,turn and face the light,have no fear,
I was smeltered with love and light,like I was cleansed so I could return to the whole,like purifying gold.
There was no judgment,simply what do you wish to experience now my beautiful child.
You can do anything you choose,remember who you are.
I experienced being pure love,when my mouth opened love and light just poured out,it was pure bliss.I was connected to the whole,I could experience whatever I chose,I had a roulet wheel of people to experience.
Guess who I chose?I do not have the words to describe the love,the feeling of even more than love,like there
was something even bigger.(what can be bigger and more powerful than love)It was like breathing steam onto a mirrorHhoooooooh except it was love,light and more I do not yet understand coming from my mouth,I am getting goose bumps.It was bigger and more wondorous than anything I could have ever imagined.
They say when you take Iboga/Ibogaine you experience what it is like when you leave this plain.YES.
I always felt that we never die,we just go home,now I know it with every fibre of my being,
as I was shown.Love Jasen.From:GardenRestaurant@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] Faith The Middle East
Hi Faith !
I am reading a book writted by Jimmy Carter . I think is talking about you
because the title is " Living Faith "
Anyway on page 117 he wrote something you should realy appreciate as a
Christian :
" Civil disobedience is in order when human laws are contrary to God'scommands to us. Jesus went to his death and Paul spent his final years in
prison rather than conform to religious and secular laws wich they could not
accept. "
snip> snip> I realy like this one :-)
"We are not required to submit to the domination of authoritywithout assessing whether it is contrary to our faith or our beliefs "
God bless
Francis
"You shall love your God and your neigbhor as yourself" is that make sens?/!From:GardenRestaurant@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] Jasen belief systems
Hi Jasen !
I am amazed by your spiritual awakening, You are resuming in your E-Mail
must of the teaching of the great Masters.
Ibogaine is definitively an incredible plant !! Keep your faith alive!!. You
know, I think if Jesus had to come back, he will be right with the forgotten
tribe : the suffering addicts. He will be in the street helping the hopeless
and helpless people. Certainly he will not follow the secular rules but only
what he had in his heart..
The meaning of : Christ : The anointed
What is the definition of anointed :
The act of anointing was significant of consecration to a holy or sacreduse. A " christ "-ian . Should be exactly that : consecrate to a holy useand what's must holy then to help .? it's a serious responsability , an act
of Faith, a battle of everyday.
God bless
Francis
By the way ( IMO ) i believe that you are kind of bless and in reading yoursE-mail I can see a strong change in You for the better.From:fakeplacebo@... Subject:[Ibogaine] To All of You / meaning of USA, Europa and Christianity Dear Friends,
I think there is no one in the list from middle east except me. So could you try to look USA and Europa from my point of view? What does it mean for us?
USA means military forces supported by CIA in my country made torture, killed all intellectuals and founded petrol companies by the force. Killed our nature, destroy forests... and so many more
CIA supported PKK to kill innocent Turkish and Kurdish peoples.
For third world USA=Torture. Not democracy or freedom.
Dou know Chirstian Missioners in the third world and what they do? (there is also very good people but they are very very few) They wanted from my people to change their religion by the force. Remember crusader and what they done for hundred years long.
Remember what Mr. Bush's said; "We crusade to Iraq"
Best Regards
FakePlacebomyeboga@...
Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] belief systems: Heaven & Hell - att Jasen Hi Jasen,
Forgive me for saying this (100% respect intended) but I am sorry, I dont think it is that simple.
In my experience we live from life to life and traumas from earliers life's can be stored in the soul. I think a lot of the work with ibogaine/eboga is actually healing of the soul. This means that the soul can be in different states and if for example, a soul is deeply afflicted, the loss of the ego does not in itself remove the affliction.
Your experience of the ego dropping away and entering into a blissful union is imo in the words of the myth of the Holy Grail, a first taste of the Holy Grail cup. The first taste comes free. The next comes at a price. With eboga I have found it can selectively suppress the awareness of trauma etc to focus that person onto a specific experience (for a learning to be gained) and in your case I would say it gave you a blissful experience by such a mechanism to show you what can be.
I cannot and will not comment on the state of your soul but i suspect that there is a reason why you became drawn to dope etc in the first place and I think it is fair to say that those reasons will rise up and challenge you in the months that come. Those initial reasons will also have spawned secondary issues. There are different ways you can deal with those issues. Another post...
Hence if a given soul is suffering at different levels, it cannot imo then walk into the union of bliss etc post death as it is incapable of experiencing the whole as it is not itself whole. It has to be healed and made whole.
In my opinion this is all about growing the soul and learning the lessons for the soul to mature and find its place among the transcended who exist and are conscient beings on another level imo.
You say we all go to "Heaven." Is it that easy? Not really. There are rewards for those who chose the light and work to overcome the dark that plagues them and who learn their lessons. If one poisons ones own soul from life to life rather than do the work and move towards the light of the common good, then there is no heaven that that soul is capable of experiencing. It actomatically creates its own hell of seperation. And I do believe there comes a point where there is no turning back.
There is such a thing as free will and through free will we chose our own heaven or hell. Free will would be pointless if there were no consequences.
Losing the ego is not the end of the story imo.
Love & Light,
Lee
From:bchloej@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] please remove my name form list - att Faith. Lee, actually this is the second time I've requested this. Yes, I do have a bad life experience--being married and divorcing a "terriorist". And, I know form experience that anything less than a full offense empowers the person. In any war, there are going to be innocent lives taken. But, there's a big difference in this and the mindset of going into something with the deliberate intent to destroy innocent human life. Because I behaved as many of you think we should've behaved toward the terriorists, my son got on drugs and many other bad things happened. But, thanks for the reply. I just think differently than most in this group. Faithdave@... Subject:[Ibogaine] att Faith.
except the buschco agenda (starting long before 9-11) was to deliberately steal the Iraqi oil, at any cost, human or monetary. War-wise generals warned of the current failure long before the war started. Even Bush Sr knew better than to invade iraq.
Rumsfeld is [finally] losing face right now with Hawks both in the Pentagon and capitol hill for his terrible mis-calculations (not to mention the sanctioning of war-crime torture), but Cheney and "W" stand fast by his side. But then again that little shrub gets his guidance from "God"... - hey - who can argue with that? ... isn't that akin to "I hear voices in my head.. Its GOD! Yeah, that's the ticket!" -that makes is all okee-dokee.
maybe you ought to join the "fundamental right christians for world domination forum", i hear they're hungry for fresh "blood". Then go buy stock in halliburton and pray to the Depleted Uranium statue of the neo-militant Christ on your way to the bank. Jump on a plane to Iraq to help democratize the muslims but remember even if you're enlisted you'll have to make your own armour.
Then put your head between yer knees, pucker up and kiss your sweet ass goodbye because they ain't interested in what the petroleum corp agenda is offering... if the roadside/suicide bombs don't git yah then the radiation will.
unsubscribe yerself... how-to right here:
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Thinking differently is OK but, please explain how behavior towards
"terrorists" got your son on drugs? I realize I am paraphrasing somewhat but, any
further explanation would be appreciated. ThanksHowardFrom:bchloej@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] att Faith and son Marty's addiction is Oxycontin, but he uses Methadone to counter it. The problem is that the clinic is hard to get into, and is a long way off. right now, he's working all day just to buy his Methadone off the street. I feel like his real problem is depression. He knows about Ibogaine, but don't believe it will help. FaithFrom:kn0m0n3@... Subject:[Ibogaine] ot -NOW- That's much too early. Prepare to fast forward.
Prepairing to fast forward.
Fast Forward!!
Fast Forwarding sir.
No No go past this part. In fact, never play this
part again.
--->Try here...Stop.
What the hell am I looking at? When does this happen
in the movie?
Now. You're looking at Now sir. Everything that
happens Now, is happening Now.
What happened to then?
We just past then.
When?
Just Now. We're at Now Now.
Go back to then!!
What?
Now!!
Now?
Now!!
I can't.
Why?
We missed it.
When?
Just Now.
When will then be Now?
Soon.
How soon?"From:krinklyfig@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] {ot} The Middle East- Faith
On Sunday 19 December 2004 07:12 pm, "Preston Peet" <ptpeet@...>
wrote:
How's the classic song go, "killing for Jesus?" Who sang that, the
Dead Milkmen? Circle Jerks? Who was that again?
I refuse to even write her name, that name that's perfect for a Bush
supporter, but you know who I mean I'm sure, but in my opinion she is
one of those disgusting (to my way to looking at life anyway) people
who think killing and bombing other people will bring them and those
they care about peace. She is exactly the reason, she and her ilk,
that there is so much suffering, hate and fear on this planet.
OK, I don't post much to this list anymore, and this is OT, but what the
heck ...
You know, I think that this is the wrong way to look at the problem. The
US is usually ripe for some sort of whoop-ass, stumbling cowboy. That's
somewhere deep in the cultural spirit of this country. I don't see much
point in blaming people who are caught up in that culture, although
they must live with their own decisions.
A big part of the reason that people in the US are so at each others
throats right now, politically speaking, is because of this insipid
"culture war" that's been brewing at the edges of cultural conservatism
for many years, and it's the same sort of thing that supposedly
enlightened liberals did to conservatives back in the '70s and '90s.
Each side portrays itself as the victim of the others' culture, and to
some extent, there is some truth to their complaints (although it's
ironic how cultural conservatives could play the victim card so much
recently, when they spent most of the '90s decrying victimhood), but it
wouldn't be so if people just left each other alone. This is the
premise that each side presents, that people just want to be left in
peace, but the end result is the imposition of that culture on another,
and it usually doesn't work. That sort of divisiveness can't really be
solved by politics, despite the fact that politicians typically use
these as wedge issues to divide people for ulterior motives - do you
*really* think Karl Rove cares about Jerry Falwell's wishes, above and
beyond what will get people to send his guy campaign checks and to back
his guy in the voting booth? But what need is practical solutions for
our common problems, not triumphs of one culture over another, creating
entrenched Hatfield-and-McCoy feuds that drag on forever. I honestly do
believe that the flames ignited from these cultural clashes are fanned
by those who would benefit by the status quo remaining the same, or bydiverting attention away from the real problems, a Hegelian dialectic.
Framing the debate in terms of how wrong someone is for believing in
something is not only not going to change anyone's mind, but it will
only serve to further this divide. I'm not saying the conservative
culture doesn't do it as well, but, you know, it's your choice whether
you want to get caught up in that game.- jtFrom:myeboga@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine]Nicotine addiction/Chemical Dependence/Healing & ibogaine - Att. Frances Hi Frances,
I was just thinking that maybe I have not been clear on the question of nicotine in my post.
Some time ago I posted a question to the group on the question of nicotine addiction and what doses where being used but I did not get a response. I guess the truth is very few are willing to subject themselves to a full ibogaine session for nicotine addiction as it is not viewed as a stimatized or debilitating addiction yet, and ibogaine/eboga is a radical solution.
So I want to restate what I wrote on nicotine addiction based on purely subjective observations.
In my own case what usually has been the pattern is that i have moved from issue to issue and at times I have been consumed by pain or by deep need and in those times I have often relapsed onto cigarettes. And like a viscous circle of addiction I keep smoking and smoking and smoking. Its as if the nicotine hits a certain nuero pathway that keeps begging for more. It cuts right into my pain and my need for gratification. Not unlike most addictions I imagine. In the beginning I smoke a few and then some switch seems to be hit and off I go like a chimney. The first thought in my mind is a cigarette when I wake up. Yet, the smoking makes things worse and I begin to feel pained and my body agitated and sore. I feel chemically poisoned...
(Luckily for me I don't have this reaction to alcohol because in the past I did try to numb myself with alcohol and it only made me feel worse as if it opened up the feelings rather than shut them down. So I have been lucky as I have always been completely firm against any other form of drug taking except where therapeutic benefits are proven. Unfortunately I started smoking before it was established to be acutely dangerous - as a young boy.)
...Then I have a mini-session (6mg/kg) and I go into the session on 2 levels. One to clean up the chemical dependence and the other to resolve the pain that caused it. I usually succeed on both counts.
What happens is that the ego feeling bruised and battered and weakened allows eboga to do its work and I will enter into the contents of one particular issue or other. As an aside to all that I come out of the mini session with no need to smoke (more or less) and a feeling of my body being completely clean, i.e., it takes away the withdrawals and that is probably the best I can subscribe to a mini-session re: nicotine.
Yet, if I chose to I can smoke and if I hang around smoky places I get the cravings but I can resist if I want to. The psychological addiction stays a long time until there is deep and profound healing at an infantile level imo. Which is why, realistically, addicts in recovery need to be aware that the vulnerability to chemical dependence will remain all the way through the process of healing until the end.
I hope that gives you a better picture on the nicotine side.
BTW I have sometimes returned to smoking out of exhaustion at the duration of the healing process and the desire to indulge myself a little bit along the way!
With Love
LeeFrom:dana@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine]Nicotine addiction/Chemical Dependence/Healing & ibogaine - Att. Frances
On Dec 22, 2004, at 5:56 AM, Lee Albert wrote:
Its as if the nicotine hits a certain nuero pathway that keeps begging for more. It cuts right into my pain and my need for gratification. Not unlike most addictions I imagine. In the beginning I smoke a few and then some switch seems to be hit and off I go like a chimney. The first thought in my mind is a cigarette when I wake up. Yet, the smoking makes things worse and I begin to feel pained and my body agitated and sore. I feel chemically poisoned...
That's because you're getting a nice, direct 5 minute glutamate fix from the nicotine. Which, unlike other stimulants, calms you down while picking you up.
Glutamate, it turns out, is even more important for addiction that dopamine-- because without downstream glutamate action to imprint the addiction, there is no longterm memory of the dopamine spike (craving, not just reward) common to most drugs of abuse.
Mice genetically engineered to knock out their mGluar5 pathway could not be induced to keeping injecting coke. Unlike all other mice, they lost interest and went back to food and water.
With nicotine you get straight to the glutamate fix. The reason you feel poisoned is that glutamate causes inflamation, which causes free radicals, which cause cancer. No wonder!
Both ibogaine and cannabis are glutamate antagonists, BTW. They just work at different stages--cannabis before, ibogaine after--of glutamate firing. As I understand it.
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