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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 20:34:27 -0500
From: Dana Beal
Subject: MMM 2004 #58: In Ohio, Kerry Ponders Un-Conceding; Turku, Vienna
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--------------New Listing By Phone--Vienna: Harry shop@... Tel.: +43 (01) 524 04 40, Fax.: +43 (01) 524 04 24Postal: Kirchengasse 19, 1070 Wien http://www.bushdoctor.at/*************************BUSHWHACKED!!****************************Dumbfuckistan:http://pieman.org/dumbfuckistan.gif-------From: sguttman@...Kerry's considering unconceding and having a recount. He asked people to send firsthand experiences of disenfranchisement to his brother's law office and his office may be counting calls that are encouraging him to unconcede and ask for a recount! There has been massive evidence of voting fraud (see bottom for links) and there are 2 organizations you can support to uncover hard evidence of this fraud.
In This Post
(1)Call/fax Kerry's senate office, the DNC, and the Ohio Democratic Party
(2)If you have first handexperience of voter disenfranchisement (not just articles) contact his brother
(3) Support Two organizations that are uncovering hard evidence of fraud:blackboxvoting.org and votewatch.us
(1)Kerry can still request a recount in Ohio (and he may have the best chance of winning with a recount there)and perhaps elsewhere! He has until they count the provisional ballots 11-15 days after counting the provisionals. (It doesn't matter if he'll have a hostile Congress to work with because even if he can't get much done as president at least he would prevent the havoc and destruction of 4 more years of W in which our rights, environment,economy, social security, and our very lives are at stake!)
When I called they put me through to someone who asked for my state: they seem to be adding them up! Contact Kerry at (202) 224-2742 -Phone
(202) 224-8525 - Fax
email form http://kerry.senate.gov/bandwidth/contact/email.html
and urge him to unconcede and do a recount in Ohio (and perhaps elsewhere)
Also contact the DNC about this since pressure from them either way would influence Kerry. This is their phone number: 202-863-8000 This is the page for their email address http://www.democrats.org/contact/
(2)If you have witnessed or experienced disenfranchisement you can contact his brother's law office--they are collecting this information which will be vital in considering unconceding at CKerry@... (Don't just email articles or they will be inundated with emails. They already know about the articles.)
(3)Help These Two Organizations Prove Fraud
There is anecdotal evidence of widespread fraud with the paperless voting machines. There are two groups working to uncover hard evidence who need your support
(a) Please support the work of http://blackboxvoting.org-- which is the only group uncovering hard evidence of fraud of the paperless electronic voting machines--with donations and/or volunteer work--they need to raise $50,000 to file freedom of info act requests for as quickly as possible to pay for records and the fees some states charge for them. If you can't donate funds http://www.eservicescorp.com/form.aspx?fID=912 , please donate time.
E-mail to join the Cleanup Crew. (they need all types from doing grunt work, to lawyers and programers) crew@...
(b) Please also contribute to Votewatch http://www.votewatch.us . They need $250,000 to do a professional statistical analysis of the election which can be used as hard evidence.
This is an excellent organization that has been conservative in its approach, using highly respected statisticians and developing trusted relationships with key media contacts. They are collecting and analyzing data to determine if there was fraud in the election as seems to be indicated by the 5% (or so) discrepancy between exit polls and reported results from the touch screen voting with no paper trail vs. the other types of voting where exit polls closely matched reported results.
If you decide to move forward with a tax-deductible contribution, please make your check payable to Votewatch (ID# 94-3255070) and send it to:
Votewatch
c/o: The San Francisco Foundation Community Initiative Foundation
(SFFCIF)
Attn: David Barlow
225 Bush Street
Suite 500
San Francisco, CA 94104
Smaller donations can be made online through the website
http://www.votewatch.us
(b) Please also contribute to Votewatch http://www.votewatch.us . They need $250,000 (they are tax deductable) to do a professional statistical analysis of the election which can be used as hard evidence.
This is an excellent organization that has been conservative in its approach, using highly respected statisticians and developing trusted relationships with key media contacts. They are collecting and analyzing data to determine if there was fraud in the election as seems to be indicated by the 5% (or so) discrepancy between exit polls and reported results from the touch screen voting with no paper trail vs. the other types of voting where exit polls closely matched reported results.
If you decide to move forward with a tax-deductible contribution, please make your check payable to Votewatch (ID# 94-3255070) and send it to:
Votewatch
c/o: The San Francisco Foundation Community Initiative Foundation
(SFFCIF)
Attn: David Barlow
225 Bush Street
Suite 500
San Francisco, CA 94104
Smaller donations can be made online through the websitehttp://www.votewatch.us
Some sites with voterfraud info
http://www.stolenelection2004.com
http://pages.ivillage.com/americans4america/id17.html
http://radtimes.blogspot.com
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/2004votefraud.html
http://legitgov.org
http://democrats.com
Take care,
Cheryl Guttman------------Marjorie Cohn | Aggressive War: Supreme International Crime
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/110904A.shtml
Bio-Terror: Bush's Homeland Security "Woefully Unprepared"
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/110904B.shtml
Will Iran Be Next?
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/110904C.shtml
The New Republican Reality: No Policy is Too Right-Wing
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/110904D.shtmlBush's 'Incredible' Vote Tallies
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/111004W.shtmlAshcroft and Evans Resign from Bush Cabinethttp://www.truthout.org/docs_04/111004U.shtml
From:ptpeet@...
http://www.drugwar.com/pcatchintel.shtm
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The CIA Practice of Recruiting Drug-Financed Armies
Prof. Peter Dale Scott also wrote a response to the HPSCI report, in which he wrote "this latest deception cannot be written off as an academic or historical matter. The CIA's practice of recruiting drug-financed armies is an on-going matter."[9]
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Professor Peter Dale Scott; Peet
Scott, a Professor Emeritus at Berkeley campus, University of California, prolific author, and a former Canadian diplomat from 1957 to 1961, has spent years studying and reporting on drug-trafficking connections of the CIA and other US government agencies. Knowing that the HPSCI report is full of lies and misrepresentations, Scott is at a loss as to how this report could have been authorized for release by the Committee, and voiced serious concerns about the staff of the HPSCI. "Well, they were headed by this guy who just committed suicide, (Chief of Staff John Millis), who not only was ex-CIA, he'd actually been working with Gulbuddin Hekmatyer in Afghanistan, (as part of CIA covert operations assisting in the fight against the Soviets in the late 70s and early 80s, while Hekmatyar moved tons of opium and smack). He may not have known about the Contra-drug connections, but he certainly knew about some CIA-drugs ties. I don't think it was an accident that they picked someone from that area to sit over the staff either. I mean, this was one of the most sensitive political threats that the CIA had ever faced."[10] John Millis, a 19-year veteran of the CIA, was found dead of "suicide" in a dingy hotel room in Vienna, Virginia, just outside of Washington, DC, June 3, 2000, less than a month after the release of the HPSCI report.
The CIA released it's own report in two parts, the Hitz Report, Vol. 1 in January, 1998, and Vol. 2, in October, 1998,[11] (within hours of the vote by Congress to hold impeachment hearings over Clinton's lying about a blow job), which examined the allegations of CIA protecting and facilitating, and participating directly in drug trafficking. There were numerous examples contained therein, particularly in Vol. 2, of just how much the CIA really knew about the drug trafficking of its "assets," and admitted to knowing. But by the time the report was released to the public, the major news outlets, "the regular villains," as Scott calls them, had already denigrated the story for 2 years, attacking and vilifying Webb, instead of investigating the facts themselves.
"The Washington Post, the New York Times, and the Los Angeles Times, all insisted that the Contra-cocaine was minor, and could not be blamed for the crack epidemic. As the [Hitz/CIA, and DoJ] government investigations unfolded, however, it became clear that nearly every major cocaine smuggling network used the Contras in some way, and that the Contras were connected- directly or indirectly- with possibly the bulk of cocaine that flooded the United States in the 1980s," wrote one journalist who has covered this story extensively, from the very start.[12]
"This has been the case since the beginning. The strategy of how to refute Webb is to claim that he said something that in fact he didn't say. The Committee didn't invent this kind of deflection away from the truth, they just followed in the footsteps of the New York Times, and the Washington Post, and they in turn may have been following in the footsteps of the CIA to begin with, but I don't know," said Scott.[13] "The Committee was originally created to exert Congressional checks and restraints on the intelligence community, in accordance with the spirit of the Constitution. For some time it has operated instead as a rubber-stamp, deflecting public concern rather than representing it."[14]
CIA/DoJ Memorandum of Understanding
Saturday, October 10th, 1998, anyone watching CNN that morning might havecaught a brief mention of the release of the Hitz Report, Vol. 2. CNN reported that the CIA acknowledged it knew of at least 58 companies and individuals involved in bringing cocaine into the US, and selling cocaine to US citizens, to help fund the Contra war in Nicaragua, while they were working for the CIA in some capacity.
March 16, 1998, Fred Hitz, then-Inspector General of the CIA, had already told US Representatives at the sole Congressional hearing on the first half of this report, Hitz Vol. 1, that the CIA had worked with both companies, and different individuals that it knew were involved in the drug trade.[15] I.G. Hitz went on to say that the CIA knew that drugs were coming into the US along the same supply routes used for the Contras, and that the Agency did not attempt to report these traffickers in an expeditious manner, nor did the CIA sever it's relationship with those Contra supporters who were also alleged traffickers.
One of the most important things Hitz testified to was that William Casey, Director of the CIA under President Ronald Reagan, and William F. Smith, US Attorney General at that time, in March 1982 signed a "Memorandum Of Understanding," in which it was made clear that the CIA had no obligation to report the allegations of trafficking involving "non-employees." Casey sent a private message to A.G. Smith on March 2, 1982, in which he stated that he had signed the "procedures," saying that he believed the new regulations struck a "...proper balance between enforcement of the law and protection of intelligence sources and methods...."[16] This was in response to a letter from Smith to Casey on Feb. 11, 1982 regarding the new Executive Order of President Reagan's that had recently been implemented, (E.O. 12333), issued in 1981, which required the reporting of drug crimes by US employees.[17]
With the MOU in place, the CIA, in cooperation with the Department of Justice, changed the CIA's regulations in 1982, redefining the term "employee" to mean only full-time career CIA officials. The result of this was that suddenly there were thousands of people, contract agents, employees of the CIA, who were no longer called employees. Now they were people who were, "employed by, assigned to, or acting for an agency within the intelligence community."[18] Non-employees, if you will.
According to a memo sent to Mark M. Richard, the Deputy Assistant Attorney General/Criminal Division, of the USA, on the subject of CIA reporting of Drug Offenses, dated February 8, 1985, this meant, as per the 1982 MOU, that the CIA really was under no obligation to report alleged drug violations by these "non-employees."[19]
Juan Matta Ballesteros and SETCO
It is pure disinformation for the HPSCI to print, "CIA reporting to DoJ of information on Contra involvement in narcotics trafficking was inconsistent but in compliance with then-current policies and regulations. There is no evidence however that CIA officers in the field or at headquarters ever concealed narcotics trafficking information or allegations involving the Contras."[20]
"On April 29, 1989, the DoJ requested that the Agency provide information regarding Juan Matta Ballesteros and 6 codefendants for use in prosecution. DoJ also requested information regarding SETCO, described as 'a Honduran corporation set up by Juan Matta Ballesteros.' The May 2 CIA memo to DoJ containing the results of Agency traces on Matta, his codefendants, and SETCO stated that following an 'extensive search of the files and indices of the directorate of Operations ...There are no records of a SETCO Air.'"[21] Matta, wanted by the DEA in connection with the brutal 30-hour torture and murder of one of their agents, Enrique Camarena, in Mexico in February 1985, and who Newsweek magazine described, May 15, 1985, as being responsible for up to a third of all cocaine entering the US,[22] was a very well known trafficker, so it is ludicrous to suggest that the CIA hasn't covered-up evidence of drug trafficking by assets, even from their own investigators.
Juan Ramón Matta Ballesteros
"I mean, this is different than the MOU, which said the CIA was under no obligation to volunteer information to the DoJ," said Scott. "It never said the CIA was allowed to withhold information from the DoJ. In the case of SETCO, they were asked for the information, and the CIA replied falsely that there was none. The Hitz people tried to find out how this could have happened, and one person said I just didn't know about SETCO, but that is impossible. If people like me knew about SETCO, how could they not? Because the SETCO thing was a big thing."[23] Matta's SETCO airline was one of four companies that, although known by the US Government to be engaged in drug-trafficking, in 1986 were still awarded contracts by the US State Department with the Nicaraguan Humanitarian Assistance Organization, (NHAO). These companies were flying weapons and supplies in to the Contras, then drugs back to the US, on the same aircraft, with the knowledge of CIA officials. Matta was protected from prosecution until his usefulness to the Contra efforts came to an end. Then he was arrested, tried and convicted in 1989, the same year Manuel Noriega was removed from office in Panama by US troops, and arrested for trafficking.
The CIA Admits to Shipping a Ton of Cocaine to US Streets
The Contra-CIA drug trafficking was no anomaly, but rather normal operating procedure for US Intelligence, particularly the CIA, and for the US government, while they actively perpetuate the War on Some Drugs.
Rep. Maxine Waters, (D-CA), in a speech in the House of Representatives on March 18, 1997, outlined various reports of CIA drug trafficking complicity. Noting a New York Times article dated November 20, 1993, she stated that "the CIA anti-drug program in Venezuela shipped a ton of nearly pure cocaine into the USA in 1990. The CIA acknowledged that the drugs were sold on the streets of the USA....Not one CIA official has ever been indicted or prosecuted for this abuse of authority." Rep. Waters continued, calling it a "cockamamie scheme." She described how the CIA had approached the DEA, who has the authority over operations of this nature, and asked for their permission to go through with the operation, but the DEA said "No." The CIA did it anyway, explaining later to investigators that this was the only way to get in good with the traffickers, so as to set them up for a bigger bust the next time.[24]
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Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA)
In late 1990, CIA Agent Mark McFarlin and Gen. Ramon Guillen Davila of the Venezuelan National Guard, sent an 800 pound shipment of cocaine to Florida, where it was intercepted by US Customs at Miami International Airport, which lead to the eventual indictment of Guillen in 1996 in Miami, FL, for trafficking 22 tons of cocaine into the city of Miami.[25] Gen. Guillen was the former chief Venezuelan anti-drug cop. "Speaking from his safe haven in Caracas, Guillen insisted that this was a joint CIA-Venezuelan operation aimed at the Cali cartel. Given that Guillen was a long time CIA employee, and that the drugs were stored in a Venezuelan warehouse owned by the CIA, the joint part of Guillen's statement is almost certainly true, although the 'aimed at' part is almost certainly false."[26]
"That is the case that has gone closest to the heart of the CIA, because the CIA actually admitted to the introduction of a ton [of cocaine onto US streets]. The man was indicted for 22 tons, and [some people said] that his defense was that the CIA approved all of it," Scott said, recalling the audacity of the case.[27] For the very same Nov. 20, 1993 NYTimes article mentioned in Rep. Waters' speech, "the spin the CIA gave the Times was that it was trying to sting Haiti's National Intelligence Service (SIN) - which the CIA itself had created."[28]
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9- "Drug, Contras, and the CIA: Government Policies and the Cocaine Economy- An Analysis of Media and government Response to the Gary Webb Stories in the San Jose Mercury News, (1996-2000)," by Peter Dale Scott, Ph.D.. From The Wilderness Publications, June 2000, pg. 47
10- interview with Peter Dale Scott by Preston Peet, July 24, 2000
11- "Allegations of Connections Between CIA and the Contras in Cocaine Trafficking to the United States, (96-0143-IG), Volume 1: The California Story," January 29, 1998, Office of the Inspector General, Central Intelligence Agency, (classified and unclassified versions), and "Allegations of Connections Between CIA and the Contras in cocaine Trafficking to the United States, (96-0143-IG), Volume II: The Contra Story," October 8, 1998, Office of the Inspector General, Central Intelligence Agency, (classified and unclassified versions).
12- "Congress Puts Contra-Coke Secrets Behind Closed Doors," by Robert Parry, IF Magazine, July/August 1999, pg. 19. Parry was instrumental in breaking the Contra-cocaine connections in the early 80s, including winning the George Polk award for Journalism in 1984 for reporting on the CIA assassination/torture manual given to the Contras, and wrote, along with Brian Barger, the very first published article on Oliver North's connection to the secret Contra-supply operations on June 10, 1985, and the first story linking the Contra's to drug running on Dec. 20, 1986, while working for the Associated Press.
13- op cite 10- Scott interview
14- op cite 9- "Drugs, Contras, and the CIA," by Scott (emphasis added)
15- Testimony of CIA Inspector General Fredrick P. Hitz, Before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, On the CIA OIG Report of Investigation, (Hitz) "Vol 1: The California Story," March 16, 1998
16- Memo to William French Smith, Attorney General, Department of Justice of the USA, from William J. Casey, Director of Central Intelligence, dated March 2, 1982, obtained at www.copvcia.com
17- Memo from William F. Smith, Attorney General, Department of Justice of the USA, to William Casey, Director of Central Intelligence, dated February 11, 1982, obtained at www.copvcia.com
18- As noted in the lawsuit Lyons vs. CIA, Class Action Lawsuit On Behalf of Victims of the Crack Cocaine Epidemic, filed March 15, 1999, in Oakland, and simultaneously in Los Angeles
19- Memo to Mark M. Richard, the Deputy Assistant Attorney General of theUSA, from A.R. Cinquegrana, the Deputy Counsel for Intelligence Policy, dated February 8, 1985, subject: CIA Reporting of Drug Offenses
20- op cite 1, HPSCI report, May, 2000, pg. pg. 42
21- "Selected Excerpts With Commentary" by Michael C. Ruppert, from "The Central Intelligence Agency Inspector General Report of Investigation, Allegations of Connections Between CIA and the Contras in Cocaine Trafficking to the United States- Vol. 2: The Contra Story (declassified version)," released October 8, 1998, published by From the Wilderness publications
22- op cite 9, "Drugs, Contras, and the CIA," Scott, pg. 7
23- op cite 10- Scott interview. SETCO was the airline owned by known drug trafficker Juan Mattas Ballestaros, who Newsweek, on May 15, 1985, estimated was responsible for up to one third of all cocaine reaching the US at that time. SETCO was just one of the 58 companies and individuals mentioned by the Hitz report.
24- Speech of Representative Maxine Waters in the House of Representatives, March 18, 1997.. Was televised on C-Span, also see "Anti-drug Mission Turns Sour", Adams, David, St. Petersburg Times, Jan. 26, 1997, p. A1
25- "Whiteout- The CIA, Drugs, and the Press," by Alexander Cockburn, 1998, Verso Press, pg. 96
26- "Drug War- Covert Money, Power, and Policy," by Dan Russell, 1999, Kalyx.com, pg. 450
27- op cite 10- Scott interview
28- op cite 26- "Drug War," Russell, pg. 451
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To: "Andrew Byrne" <ajbyrne@...>
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 5:38 PM
Subject: Important and novel findings from Suboxone study in Sydney.
A pilot study of buprenorphine-naloxone combination tablet (Suboxone®) in treatment of opioid dependence. Bell J, Byron G, Gibson A, Morris A. Drug Alcohol Rev (2004) 23;3:311-318
Dear Colleagues,
These researchers are to be congratulated on one of the first studies of its kind. They report on responses in 17 consenting 'stable' buprenorphine patients who were offered transfer to the combination product containing naloxone which, after the first week, was dispensed once weekly and taken by the patient unsupervised rather than daily dispensing as previously.
Most research I have read on buprenorphine employs the drug for new patients presenting for treatment, measuring illicit drug use and treatment retention. However, very useful clinical evidence is also derived from comparing existing practice with the experimental condition. The combination buprenorphine and naloxone product ('Suboxone') was approved for unsupervised use in the US over 2 years ago despite most of the existing research being on supervised dosing. We are told that the combination drug is equally effective and has theoretically less prospect for diversion as it contains an antagonist which if injected will cause withdrawals in those dependent on heroin or methadone.
The most surprising finding in this pilot study was that when transferred to the combination drug, nearly all patients required substantially higher doses of buprenorphine. Of the 15 successful cases, 4 needed double or more of the original dose of buprenorphine. One needed triple while the rest required more modest increases averaging about 50% at the transfer time.
"The switch from buprenorphine (SubutexTM) to the combination product (SuboxoneTM) was associated with mild withdrawal symptoms for 24 hours in the first subject. Thereafter, 13 subjects had about a 50% increase in dose when switching (from an average dose of 8.5 mg SubutexTM to day 1 SuboxoneTM average of 12.2 mg); in no cases were there complaints of either intoxication or withdrawal."
The possible 10% quoted absorption of naloxone may be responsible for antagonising the opioid effects, at least temporarily. Three patients reported withdrawals when starting the combination product. One of them chose to withdraw from the study altogether rather than taking increased doses offered. Thus it would appear that the combination drug may not be bio-equivalent and therefore not 'equally effective' as pure buprenorphine, especially for high-dose patients since 32mg is the current maximum recommended dose. Another explanation might be that the subjects in this trial were originally taking inadequate doses of the pure drug. Yet, since they were 'stable' such doses must have been associated with positive outcomes at the time.
Those intent upon eventual abstinence may have been disappointed that after six months in these 'stable' patients the mean buprenorphine dose were still significantly higher than at the start of the trial (up from 9 to 11mg daily [22%]). Apart from the withdrawals, there were some major events with one patient suffering a stroke and another becoming pregnant despite the strict protocol (Suboxone is contraindicated in pregnancy). It must also be a concern that despite only enrolling stable, employed patients, by the end of the study four of the fifteen were unemployed. In spite of being chosen for their stability, there was still use of illicit drugs in about 6 patients according to urine toxicology reported. At least one patient was using such drugs frequently.
Since doses were dispensed unsupervised, in order to check for compliance, patients agreed to random call-back arrangements. Despite this, four patients (27%) failed to do so, claiming they had work committments. Yet it appears that they were still permitted to continue with unsupervised medication. This reported finding could mean that some of the four patients had already consumed or even on-sold their medication.
It is puzzling that these patients had not been receiving any take-home doses despite being long-term and 'stable'. Nor do the authors address second daily administration of buprenorphine in these cases as recommended by the manufacturer. They write at length on the benefits of take-away doses and of the difficulties with daily attendance. Indeed, Australian Commonwealth guidelines on opioid maintenance point out that retention rates are reduced when take-away doses are not available. Even the original strict NSW buprenorphine prescribing guidelines allowed stable patients 2 take-away doses weekly with certain conditions. Most Australian jurisdictions now permit up to 5 take-away buprenorphine doses per week with few reports of problems. The use of strict 7-day dosing should be exceptional and dispensed doses used judiciously as an added incentive to normalise the dependent life style.
It is clear that opioid maintenance can be very successful with twice (or even once) weekly supervision. The researchers' final statement is that 'using access to unsupervised dosing to promote abstinence from heroin probably limits the potential benefits of unsupervised administration to a very small proportion of patients.'
comments by Andrew Byrne ..
Bell J, Byron G, Gibson A, Morris A. A pilot study of buprenorphine-naloxone combination tablet (Suboxone®) in treatment of opioid dependence. Drug Alcohol Rev (2004) 23;3:311-318
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Dr Andrew Byrne MB BS (SYD) FAChAM (RACP)
Dependency Medicine,
75 Redfern Street, Redfern,
New South Wales, 2016, Australia
Email - ajbyrneATozemail.com.auTel (61 - 2) 9319 5524 Fax 9318 0631~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~From: jfreed1@... Subject: RE: [Ibogaine] Re: IBO and Benzos Date: November 10, 2004 9:35:00 AM EST To: ibogaine@... Reply-To: ibogaine@...
However, I have read that Ibo is an SSRI antagonistic. The pills
like Paxil stop the reuptake of serotonin thus leaving more
serotonin for your brain to use. I have read that Ibo is a
serotonin antagonist, I could be wrong.
I believe it increases serotonin, in any case. Which would explain
the feeling of well-being it leaves behind.
Do you by any chance take Paxil? Maybe that is why you had some "
really rough" times on Ibogaine. We seem to be at odds in as much
as you think Ibo increases serotonin and I think it is a serotonin
antagonist.
Howard knows the studies.. Paxil was ok but left me unmotivated.
Ibogaine, like most psychedelics, is a partial serotonin agonist. It has
been found to increase serotonin levels in the nucleus accumbens and
striatum (Broderick, Phelan, Eng, and Wechsler, 1994; Ali et al, 1996),
and to reduce serotonin levels in the medial prefrontal cortex (Benwell et
al. 1996).
The nucleus accumbens is thought to be a primary site involved in the
pleasure-reward circuit, while the medial prefrontal cortex is thought tobe involved in planning, motivation, memory and fear, and acts as a relay
in the reward circuit.
Most addictive drugs reduce serotonin in the nucleus accumbens while
increasing dopamine; the opposite of actions of ibogaine.From: dave@...http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm
StateAvg. IQ 2004
1Connecticut 113 Kerry
2Massachusetts 111 Kerry
3New Jersey 111 Kerry
4New York 109 Kerry
5Rhode Island 107 Kerry
6Hawaii 106 Kerry
7Maryland 105 Kerry
8New Hampshire 105 Kerry
9Illinois 104 Kerry
10Delaware 103 Kerry
11Minnesota 102 Kerry
12Vermont 102 Kerry
13Washington 102 Kerry
14California 101 Kerry
15Pennsylvania 101 Kerry
16Maine 100 Kerry
17Virginia 100 Bush
18Wisconsin 100 Kerry
19Colorado 99 Bush
20Iowa 99 Bush
21Michigan 99 Kerry
22Nevada 99 Bush
23Ohio 99 Bush
24Oregon 99 Kerry
25Alaska 98 Bush
26Florida 98 Bush
27Missouri 98 Bush
28Kansas 96 Bush
29Nebraska 95 Bush
30Arizona 94 Bush
31Indiana 94 Bush
32Tennessee 94 Bush
33North Carolina 93 Bush
34West Virginia 93 Bush
35Arkansas 92 Bush
36Georgia 92 Bush
37Kentucky 92 Bush
38New Mexico 92 Bush
39North Dakota 92 Bush
40Texas 92 Bush
41Alabama 90 Bush
42Louisiana 90 Bush
43Montana 90 Bush
44Oklahoma 90 Bush
45South Dakota 90 Bush
46South Carolina 89 Bush
47Wyoming 89 Bush
48Idaho 87 Bush
49Utah 87 Bush 50Mississippi 85 Bush From:bchloej@... Subject:RE: [Ibogaine] OT: a connection between election results and avarage IQ's? Are people gullible enough to not see why this was on the web right after the election? There's nothing more dangeroud than having a high IQ and a low level of moral development.From:dave@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] OT: a connection between election results and avarage IQ's?
On Tuesday, November 9, 2004, at 10:00 AM, Faith Bowling wrote:
Are people gullible enough to not see why this was on the web right after the election? There's nothing more dangeroud than having a high IQ and a low level of moral development.
hmmm. I'd say anyone who supports pre-emptive war for corporate profit has about the lowest morals possible.
Like maybe a president who has one of the lowest IQ's of any president in US history, who graduated Yale with barely a C average, is an alcoholic, feels ordained by God to do as he will, and sends young men and women off to war to secure oil fields for his sponsors, those same young men and women facing death everyday in the Iraqi Dust, under the bullshit guise of bringing freedom and democracy to the middle east? The same president who failed in every business venture he got his grimy little paws on (except for his successful looting of Harkin)? Now he's failing again (and again) but people like YOU JUST DON'T GET IT._.dhFrom:jimhadey3@...
Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] OT: a connection between election results - just a thought Hi All,
Hmmm.... What would happen if China or Russia decided to do a pre-emptive strike against us? The only reason Bush got a "C" average is because of his dad and connections.
Hey, wait a minute... aren't you suppose to be an "A" or at least "B" student before being accepted at Yale?
- JIMFrom:dave@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] OT: a connection between election results - just a thought
yes, but money talks. the men behind the curtains make all sorts of exceptions for those of the "order".From: dave@...On Tuesday, November 9, 2004, at 01:33 PM, BiscuitBoy714@... wrote:
thats it. We start our own secret ritualistic society. We take Ibogaine and then...... wait we all ready did that.
complete with a secret handshake and identifying tattoos that grant us access to the holodeck.
Then we have powerful people give us breaks.
But first they must be de-contaminated, purified and indoctrinated. Then we will have control of their bank accounts.
We conspire to take over the recovery field and brainwash all the addicts and go from there.
and that's just a start.
Then we start an uncalled for war against assholes and idiots. Just because we can.
except it will be a non-violent war of purging of their idiotic and asinine ways, mainly thru love, kindness and compassion, and a strict regimen of iboga therapy.
disclaimer: this is for entertainment purposes only. this is not a conspiracy.
we will consume mass quantities of commercial products and obey the scriptures as ordained by the holy corporate headquarters._.dhFrom:bchloej@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] OT: a connection between election results and avarage IQ's? There's a definite kink between using crude language, calling people "dumb" and needing to critize those who live their lives by higher laws, and a person's true character. I won't even respond to anyone on this list anymore. They are in accord with NBC, CBS, ABC, Whoopi, and Eminem to try to destroy an intelligent, kind, strong person. A true coward is one who attacks people of thsi character (they know they're safe in this world), and have the mentality that we should be good to evel people and maybe they won't hurt us.From:jimhadey3@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] OT: a connection between election results - just a thought Hi Randy,
I think he would rather have a litre of booze and a gram of coke. I have heard that he is taking Prozac, of course we got to take things like that with a grain of salt (but not with pretzels). Seriously, years ago wasn't there something called goofballs, some kind of combination of drugs. I think he took a few too many. Now, at that cabinet meeting when he reportedly started speaking in tongues could it be he was just slurring his speach? With 6 or 7 billion people on this Earth I think God would of chose someone else, but that is just my opinion. Ya got to admit not everyone could get us into another Vietnam in the middle of a desert. Last I heard we lost 1,000 good American troops, 10,000 civilians and billions of dollars of damage. And that is what they admit to. But look at the bright side Hallaburton is doing great.
Pray for Peace,
- JIMBiscuitBoy714@... wrote:
How much Ibogaine would it take to purge the idiocy from your average skull and crossbones guy? For Bush I'd say start with a 25mg. per kg. test dose and then give him 'bout 2 fitty per kg. This is not a test it is a joke. Why do I feel like someone is looking over my shoulder? Randy
dave@... Subject:[Ibogaine] For Faith
Faith,
You say you are here because you have a son who is an addict and you want to help him, where-ever that help may come from, is that accurate?
Have you considered for a moment that the political regime you seem to "faithfully" support would never in a thousand years allow a treatment like Ibogaine to become legalized? Knowing full well of it's anti-addictive and healing properties? You see, these powerful white men (and a token non-white cabinet person here or there) are driven by profit, and nothing else. Oh, they claim to be compassionate conservatives and whole variety of other nice things, but their actions be-lie their words.
You see, one of the Bush regimes biggest backers is the pharmaceutical industry. The pharmaceutical industry is not interested in plant based medicinals, especially so a medicine like ibogaine that treats with 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 doses. They want patents on their medicines. But you can't patent a plant! They want want consumers in their clutches for repeat business, for as long as possible. They are interested in maintenance medicines, which often times only mask the symptoms, unlike Ibogaine which illuminates the root causes. They are not in business for humanitarian reasons, they are driven purely by profit. These same companies off-load proven harmful or expired medicines (not to mention medicines that do not meet FDA standards) to third world countries at wholesale prices, which adds to their pretty little graphs on quarterly earnings reports for their share-holder meetings. I wonder how much Vioxx is being shipped offshore at this very moment?
They could care less for the well-being or the dignity of those in need.
They could care less for my addiction to heroin or cocaine or methadone. They could care less about your son's struggles with narcotics or alcohol or whatever his flavor of the day is.
Their bottom line is the dollar bill. Preferably counted in the billions.
Remember, as vice-president to Reagan, Daddy Bush resided over one of the largest CIA run "Bullets for Blow" smuggling rings in US history (whom Mr Kerry fought hard to expose, by the way). Do you recall that? In the height of the 1980's crack epidemic? Now don't tell me George senior didn't know about that one, Daddy Bush knows quite a but about what goes on in the cia-covert world. Remember, he was spook number one not that long ago. Now consider for a moment who "W" takes his cues from? God? Karl Rove? James Baker? The latter two are close personal friends and fellow businessmen of Daddy Bush. As to God's relationship with the Bush family, well, I'll let them sort that out for themselves when the time comes. But didn't God once say... "Thou shall not kill"? How many deaths has [p]resident W resided over now? 1200 Dead American soldiers? 10,000 innocent Iraqi men, women and children? and counting? For surely to send a soldier to die in [an unjust] war is the same as killing her/him with your own hands. Does that reflect high morals? Does that reflect compassion?
Perhaps this isn't the best forum for BushCo's foriegn or domestic or religious policies... or maybe it is, as those policies directly affect each and everyone of us, sooner or later.
I am not here to stir shit up with you, I do, however, feel compelled to put some facts on the table and you may do with this information as you wish. Maybe you ought to write W a letter asking him to provide funding and support legislation to bring Ibogaine to those in need. He might even make you an automated promise to look into it, like how he promised to support the continued ban of assault weapons. Oooops... oh wait, he let that one slip and now Uzi and AK-47 type assault weapons are available again. Gee, it must have slipped his mind that the weapons manufacturers are closely tied to Daddies notorious little investment group known as Carlyle.
In any event, I truly hope your son finds relief from his addiction, wether it is thru ibogaine or some other means.
Peace,
_.Daverwd3@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] OT: a connection between election results and avarage IQ's?
she has a good heart, but she's a republican and bush baby. can't help it. this is not a political forum or maybe i'm in the wrong place. i'm trying to save my life. screw politicians...they are all on their estates or ranches recovering from spending all that money. i still d/n have phone service from ivan which hit in september. and my hurricane deductible is 3200.00 us which will pay for 1/2 of my roof which is missing thanks to jeb's policy w/ the insurance companies in fla. chump change for fat cat's. this is a forum for survival. watch cross fire for the other stuff. my dad's dying, i'm losing a career and i've got a benzo habit a mile long that 'll kill me when they cut me off. get real folks and like me a freakin candle cuz i have no way out. rwd3carlambarnes@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] For Faith
Hi Dave I want to say I love your art and you,
Patrick, Preston, are people who have always given me
a lot of inspiration and hope. I also want to say I
was disgusted by Faith's messages about abortion and
the holier than thou morality is I don't know what it
is, maybe he is normal for people who live in middle
america? Someone voted for Bush so who knows it
doesn't make any sense to me.
What I have to disagree with is some of what you said,
Howard did patent a plant he filed a series of patents
on it. I don't disagree with what you've written here
and yes obviously the war is about money and power,
that's all.
What I don't agree with is that it's any better under
the democrats. Nobody cares about drug addicts at all,
except other drug addicts. I don't think dragging in
god, halliburton or anything else changes that.
I've always found hope and inspiration here and now I
feel everyone is beating up on Faith who came here to
get help for his son. I think he is a horribly closed
minded pinhead who's idea of morality makes me sickbut then he is here reading and writing to this list
because his son needs help.
Drug addiction the great equalizer, it doesn't care
who your parents are or how you voted.
Only my opinions, I am physically sick at the thought
of what the country I live in is becoming, Nazi
germany does come to mind and it disgusts me more then
I can say that if there wasn't fraud that more then
half the people in the country I live in buy this
bullshit or don't care and only want to exploit the
whole world and get rich. I wouldn't give Faith 5
minutes of my time but if I could help his son I still
would.
Carla Bslowone@... Subject:RE: [Ibogaine] OT: a connection between election results and avarage IQ's?
Faith, people who say deliberately provocative things on the net
are called trolls, because like mythical trolls (that live under
bridges), they try to draw people into fruitless arguments. You are
so unusual and apparently naive for this list that it is hard to
tell if you are for real. My impression is that you are for real,
and that you are really unable to think critically about the Bush
administration. Think of it this way - you represent a blind
acceptance of evil to many here, just as they might seem the same
to you. I tend to think you are well-intentioned, but sadly misled.
However you may be right in implying that the IQ stuff is bogus.
Folks, give her a break. If she's for real the best hope is that
she'll learn something if not under attack, and if she were a trollbetter to ignore anyway.From:GardenRestaurant@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] For Faith
Dear Faith
You have to be fully responsible for the name you choose to carry :
Faith.
I am a christian and I am not afraid to say : a catholic.
So in my mind as a Christian : war and the use of depleted uranium are
not an option.
In my humble opinion , you have realy to do your homework and do some
research on Internet using words like : D U depleted uranium, Death children
irak ,UN sanction, Alliburton, Oil iraq, privatisation of irak, You will be
amazed ;-)
God bless you and all the members of this list
Francisbchloej@... Subject:RE: [Ibogaine] For Faith
As i understand it, the hold-up is because there's some type of disagreement to who has rights to Ibogaine. Marty did use it once, and said it didn't help, except make him sick and have black clouds over him for a few days. I'm not so sure, at this point, if the ONLY answer is just to stop with no help. He goes to the Methadone clinic, now, and believes that is the only answer, but I've not seen that he's got a good job, finising school, or doing things that would help him be a better citizen. I think at some point, the addiction, if it's ever kicked, will have to be done with no help other than for him to have a firm resolve within him that he's going to stop. I know it's legal in Canada and other countries, but there's still addiction. Thanks for the info. Faithms_iboga@...
Subject:RE: [Ibogaine] For Faith Faith,
I'm sorry Ibo didn't seem to work for Marty, BUT- have you read all the glowing reports of Ibo success on this list? I, for one, found Ibogaine extremely useful in kicking the habit. You just have to be realistic- there is no single AMAZING CURE for narcotic addiction; there will inevitably be some suffering involved. Ibo reduced my suffering by about 80-85%, in relation to what I have experienced previously.
There is no magic pill, no secret elixir, that will take away 100% of the symptoms, and believing otherwise is foolish and deluded. In addition, taking Ibo unsupervised/on my own did NOTHING for me at all, except waste $425 dollars(Canadian). I would highly recommend booking a treatment with someone experienced, compassionate and insightful. There are many treatment providers throughout the world who could be of assistance to your son. Methadone is NOT the answer, but rather a temporary solution. It is more addictive than heroin, less fun, and completely numbing. In retrospect, methadone made me feel like a zombie.
You are entitled to your own opinions politically and otherwise; however, to believe the government is actually going to approve Ibogaine for the treatment of narcotic addiction, is, quite simply, a foolish and misinformed notion. Please do some research...From:rwd3@... Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] For Faith methadone was made by the nazis in ww2 because the allies controlled the opium crops. the couldn't make morphine so the came up with this wonderful drug. the best way to with draw from methadone is to use a heroin taper. unfortunately, most addicts can't taper, myself included and our great gov't has banned it's use for ay medical purpose. yet they allow methadone and oxycontin to be dispensed, both drugs being much more difficult to withdraw from than heroin. methadone costs pennies a dose to make and is sold at clinics at a mark up that would make the average consumer choke. then of course there is the ama's approach that any one seeking to come off drugs MUST SUFFER to some degree. got to pay for being "weak". addicts aren't weak, they are strong, which is the problem. they keep using in face of incredible adversitiy lng after it has quit being fun. i sought ibo, which i will not use , to overcome a benzo dependence because no m.d. will detox me properly. so far, i have only met one m.d. in my life who was not consumed with the fear of being sued and who would speak openly about the money he made. m.d.'s are afraid to use ibo to treat opiate addiction b/c the fda and dea has not given the go ahead. they do not want to jeopordize the huge amount of money they make. this is not to say that all are that way, i just have not met one. the addictionologists i have met with are all afraid and all seem to follow the manual. some are ex addicts, some are in it b/c it's no work and easy dough. they've picked my pocket time and time again, tried to farm me out to expensive rehab centers once they find out i'm a "professional", and none of them has been willing to risk anything to help me. rwd, another weak link in the food chainms_iboga@... Subject:[Ibogaine] Ron
Ron,
I found a page that contains a number of medical
abstracts re: benzo detox and withdrawal. There is
also a forum, in which you can post and speak with
other people who have already, or are planning to,
detox from benzos.
http://www.benzo.org.uk/abstracts.htm
Preliminary studies have suggested that GHB is
effective in the treatment of alcohol dependance, and
as far as I understand, there are some similarities
between alcohol withdrawal and benzo withdrawal.
I wish you the best of luck....JulieFrom:sara119@... Subject:RE: [Ibogaine] For Faith
It never seems to end: just when you think "Yay!
we got rid of Ascroft as Attorney-general!", the idiot Bush nominates
Alberto Gonzales to replace him.
Gonzales is the author of the memorandum that said the
international laws relating to prohibition of torture of prisoners of
war could be ignored in the case of the Guantanamo Bay detainees. Of
course, this is pure nonsense, and evil as well. There is no
"non-uniformed " exception for the torture prohibition in the Geneva
Convention, and this guy Gonzales was purely making up that whole lie
to appease Ashcroft, and evidently Bush as well. Bush rewards this
war crimes perpetrator by nominating him for Attorney-General, despite
the fact that a Federal Judge only last week struck down the whole
Guantanamo memorandum as violative of international law. This shows
Bush's absolute disdain for the Geneva Convention, international law,
and the federal judiciary, and his incredible support for torture as a
legitimate form of behavior. Bush can only be construed as a war
criminal, and we must protect ourselves from further violations of
his.
I urge all of you to start contacting your Senators regarding
Gonzales, and directing them to both completely question the record of
this evil malefactor, and to absolutely oppose his nomination to the
Cabinet post of Attorney General. He is absolutely unqualified, bothon legal and moral grounds, and we need to send a message to the world
that we do not tolerate people who are soft on torture as the top, or
bottom, prosecutors and head of the Justice Department in the United
States of America.
=====
End the oppression of cannabis and its consumers.
b_jb2001kn0m0n3@...
Subject:Re: [Ibogaine] OT: a connection between election results and avarage IQ's? "I have no reason to hide" ; )
One thing that really amazed me was the conviction of people in Texas prison still supporting W. Very difficult for me to understand.
Faith, I do agree that calling people 'dumb' or whatever doesn't usually lead to changing hearts and minds, but I'm curious what you mean by 'higher laws'. Does one particular religion determine that? I've been turning on Trinity Broadcasting Network to try to figure out where these people are coming from and it just really saddens my heart. If those are the people we are putting faith in, then we are fucked. They glamorise the Apocalypse (another word for jehad) in the same commercial as kid cartoons, literally. And 'faith' seems to be directly related to pledging. I had no idea that running mascara lady was still around but she is lol, absolutely amazing. The point I had to turn it off in disgust was when the preacher said while turning in one place "look at me I'm turning, come turn with God today". Then the camera switches to the studio audience and they all turn in place too, like some evangelical hooky poky.
I went to a 'christian' school and live in Texas. I have NO PROBLEM with people practising their faith, but when that faith teaches to go out and convert the world because what they believe is the only way, to me that is arrogant. And what is even more arrogant then that is the attempt to convert those who are 'evil' through war. War breeds war. And who the hell gets to decide who is and isn't 'evil'? 'God'? Does that not sound just A LITTLE like OBL, who by the way we haven't caught yet, but we are 'kicking ass' in Fallujah, like the 'victory' will win anything. In Texas, the lines between the rich and poor are VERY obvious. The Halliburton job fair ($100,000 for a year in Iraq) had lines around the building 4 days in a row, because, well, gotta eat right? Dallas police, well, you probably already know 'bout that. We have underfunded schools. State social services are being cut at record levels. I lost my already approved funding for college due to these cuts. Where is the compassion in government saying it's not my problem let the Church's deal with it. I'm picturing God saying "sorry, that's not my department".
And I'm curious how you know a person's 'true character'? You may know God's true character, but W's? Is asking difficult questions during 'wartime' (pssst...it's war not designed to succeed) an act of evil?
"being good to evil people" is not what is trying to happen. I believe very much in 'learn thy enemy'. Isn't that the best way to 'win'? Or do you still think bombs and bullets can change the hearts and minds of people who obviously feel very strongly in their cause.
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