Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 12:48:28 -0500
From: Dana Beal
Subject: MMM 2004 #55: Kerry Seeks Religious Summit for Peace; Stevens
Point, Warsaw Make 85 Cities on the Global Marijuana March Website/Poster!

Important: get your city on the list for the Global Marijuana March, May 7, 2005!

So far we have confirmed 85 cities:

Albany

Albuquerque

Athens

Asheville

Auckland

Bergen

Berlin

Boone

Boulder

Buenos Aires

Burlington

Capetown

Chicago

Chico

Christchurch

Cincinnati

Colorado Springs

Columbia

Darwin

Des Moines

Detroit

Dover

Dublin

Dunedin

East Lansing

Eugene

Fayetteville

Frankfurt

Ft. Smith

Hartford

Hachita

Houston

Kansas City

Kristiansand

Lethbridge

Lexington

London

Los Angeles

Mexico City

Missoula

Montreal

Moscow

Nashville

Newark

New Paltz

New York

Nimbin

Ogden

Oslo

Paris

Peoria

Philadelphia

Phoenix

Portland

Potsdam

Prague

Raleigh

Rapid City

Reno

Richmond

Roanoke

Rosario

Rostock

San Francisco

Sarasota

Savannah

Spokane

Stavanger

Stevens Point

St. Louis

Stockholm

Tallahassee

Tampa

Thunder Bay

Toronto

Traverse City

Tromsoe

Trondheim

Tucson

Tupelo

Upper Lake

Vancouver

Warsaw

Washington, D.C.

Wilmington

There is also some international MMM networking going on at
this CannabisCulture.com message forum:

http://www.cannabisculture.com/forums/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=current

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*****!!!Global Marijuana March--May 7, 2005:  Updates,  Reports!!!*****

From: tents444@...

Hello Dana Beal and Artur Radosz,
 
Hope you both are doing well.
 
The following info came in via this MMM webform:
http://corporatism.tripod.com/webform.htm
 
I just added the Warsaw, Poland info to the basic MMM 2005 city list and map:
http://www.corporatism.netfirms.com/mmm2005.htm and
http://www.corporatism.netfirms.com/mmm2005map.htm
 
*Warsaw, Poland. Link. artur@...
 

http://www.kanaba.info
 
I helped upload many of the ENCOD MMM 2004 photos for many cities:
http://www.vienna2004.org/mmm and for Warsaw:
http://www.vienna2004.org/mmm/forth_stage_album.php?albid=MzQ3
 
Please send more MMM photos, reports, links, video links, etc..!
For any year.
 
Thanks!,
 
eco man
tents444@...
 
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Tripod Form Mailer <membership@...> wrote:

    Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 06:15:24 -0500
    From: Tripod Form Mailer
    To: tents444@...
    Subject: Results From Your Form

    The following data was submitted via your form:

    Hi,
    Im coordinator of polish movement for cannabis legalization - kanaba.info.

    From two years we organize demonstrations for more humane drug policy, from this year we organize MMM in Poland. Next year we want also join this global event, on 7.V.2005 we will organize MMM in Warszawa, Poland so please add us to your list.

    My contact details

    Artur Radosz
    kanaba.info Coordinator
    e-mail: artur@...

    phone: +48 693 094 498

    Please check also internet site done by our European Coalition (ENCOD),
    here you can find lots of photos from 2004 MMM around the world,

    we look forward for better cooperation with you :)

From: slu@...

hi,
i will send you some contacts next week, currently we are in middle of our
campaign and im very busy, so please be patient.

We did big progress last time in Poland. We have some major politicians

(including chief of Parliamentary Health Commission) advocating cannabis
legalization. This is just unbelievable, but its truth

Next week we will have conference in Helsinki Foundation for Human Rights

where our current Health Ministry will make a speech 'ways for drug policy

reform'. We think that at least soon we should return to our old law and
reintroduce possession for personal use. We fight also for possibility to
grown cannabis for personal use. And of course medical marijuana.
Government officials are pretty open and are ready for dialogue (national
elections will be held in May)

In EU ENCOD is working on new European drug strategy. I think that this

report http://www.encod.org/ReportOnDrugStrategy.pdf  will tell you lots
about
what is going on. If everything will go smoothly this report will be
presented to European Commission and European Parliament.

all best,
artur



On Mon, 1 Nov 2004, Dana Beal wrote:


>> Do you have latest emails and phone numbers for Budapest, Vienna,

>> Zagreb, Bratislava or any other European city likely to do a protest
>> march May 7, 2005.
>>
>> Dana/cnw

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From: mikecrockett715@...

Hi! This is Mike Crockett. You may remember me from a couple of years ago for the 2002 festivities in Huntsville, AL. Prior to the parade, I was arrested for possession with intent to distribute and have spent the last couple years in jail. I am interested in organizing festivities in Stevens Point, Wi. Stevens Point, Wi. is a college town with many people who believe that reformation is necessary. Also, I have scoped a prime location for the event- Pfifner Park. This park has a bandshell, and several local groups (drill 187; with dead hands rising) have offered to play should I get this up and running in time. My new address is   5955 Birch Dr. #13  Plover, Wi. 54467. You can reach me at 715-345-2313. Feel free to call me and to post this number and/or this email address anywhere you feel necessary to help benefit the cause. Also, materials (posters, etc.) are in great need to spread the word. Hopefully, with your help and the local NORML chapter, as well as certain establishments in Point (blazin gifts, high tree gifts, el dorodo's adult book store, etc), we can get this organized in time to make it a success. Thank you dana. You can also reach me at:  mikecrockett715@..., or at mikecrockett256@....    thanks again for your support and your timely response, as time is running short.

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
October 31, 2004
FOR MORE INFORMATION:
Sam H. Clauder II, Political Director
YesOn66@...
8-66-4-2-VOTE-66, (951) 653-3500
Mike Kaspar, (949) 338-0646

Schwarzenegger and Jerry Brown Both Committed Strike-able Felonies

When California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger smoked marijuana on-screen in the film "Pumping Iron," he committed an act that could have been prosecuted as a strike-able felony, had he been arrested and prosecuted for it.

Former California Governor Jerry Brown, currently campaigning against Prop 66, has long been known to be a marijuana user, for which he could have received strike-enhanced sentences.

Facts from the State of California, Department of Corrections, Data Analysis Unit:

More prisoners are serving strike-enhanced sentences for marijuana offenses (393) than for murder (377), or for manslaughter (326), or for rape (372), or for kidnapping (223).

26 serve strike-enhanced sentences for 'other marijuana offenses,' including 2 serving 25-years-to-life.

212 serve strike-enhanced sentences for 'marijuana possession,' including 5 serving 25-years-to-life.

145 serve strike-enhanced sentences for 'marijuana sales,' including 28 serving 25-years-to-life.
[Schwarzenegger and Brown had to buy their marijuana from someone, so they both contributed to these crimes being committed.]

Would Schwarzenegger and Brown consider themselves "violent offenders" and "threats to public safety?"  Not likely.

Yet, these are some of the "violent offenders" that Schwarzenegger and Brown say would be "released" by Prop 66.

If these two had been arrested and prosecuted for their law-breaking acts, it is likely neither would have become Governor, and even more likely that each would have been convicted of strike-able felonies under California's current three-strikes law.

Which means they both would now have first-hand knowledge of the injustice of the current law, and would probably be campaigning for Prop 66 instead of against it.

A vote for Prop 66 is a vote for fair and equitable justice!

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http://www.pollingreport.com/wh04gen.htm

http://www.electoral-vote.com/pred/

Greg Palast | 1 Million Kerry Votes Already Stolen

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/110204V.shtml

http://www.clowntech.com/win04/vote.htm

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From: BrennerL21@...

http://www.counterpunch.org/brenner11012004.html

November 1, 2004

Secularlists Be Warned

Christlike Kerry Roams Spiritual Universe
By LENNI BRENNER

Fellow secularists, below is an excerpt from an article by Martin Peretz,
publisher/editor of the weekly New Republic. He's a dead-end Zionist, but I
haven't known him to make up quotes.

* * *

Martin Peretz, "Exercised About Kerry," NY Sun, 10/27/04

For his part, Mr. Kerry grabs at any showy idea to demonstrate his sense of
urgency. As a response to militant Islam and to encourage moderate Muslims, the
presidential aspirant proposes that "the great religious figures of the
planet" - he mentioned the Pope, the Archbishop of Canterbury, and the Dalai Lama -
hold a summit.

To do exactly...what?
"To begin to help the world to see the ways in which Islam is not, in fact, a
threat," Mr. Kerry said, "And to isolate those who are, and to give people
the strength to be able to come together in a global effort to take away their
financing, their freedom to move, their sanctuary, and so forth."

* * *

As a tourist, I once walked into St. Paul's in London, when an ecumenical
peace prayer began. The majors were all there, Buddhists, Christians, Hindus,
Jews. They chanted, then filed out. I've been to London 11 times, & don't
remember the date of this singular pious ceremony. Or between which wars this mummery
occurred. And that is the important point. 'Been there, done that.' No amount
of ecumenical pronouncements will solve the complex problems of the wider
Middle East. Only our action of behalf of equality for the oppressed, Sudanese
Blacks, Kurds in Iraq, Iran & Turkey, the Palestinians, Muslims in India, women
everywhere, will bring peace.

Kerry's turn towards the spiritual cosmos actually demonstrates that he has
no capacity to solve either American imperialism's or the region's crisis. It
is yet another example of his contempt for the secularism of Jefferson &
Madison, the founders of his party. It is coupled with his call, at this Summer's
African Methodist Episcopal convention, for further involvement of 'faith-based'
organizations in things the government should be doing on a scientific basis
but ain't, i.e., drug addict clinics, wayward kids institutions, employment
training, etc.

Secularists, be warned. If you vote for Kerry & he loses, you will be
legitimately ridiculed as wasting your vote on a demagogue, who you knew intended to
violate the 1st amendment's separation of church & state, out of fear of Bush.
And, if he wins, you will be legitimately ridiculed as wasting your vote on a
demagogue, who you knew intended to violate the 1st amendment's separation of
church & state, out of fear of Bush.

In either case, you can't tap-dance around the fact that you know that he
intends to intertwine religion & state, domestically & internationally. You can't
say that it is OK for your candidate to help tear down the wall of
separation, & then claim to champion separation.

Its the same with secularism as with any ideal. You can't fire up people for
it if they know that you voted for its enemy. All that does is give folks the
perfect excuse for continuing to vote for its foe. And indeed we can say,
without contradiction, that whoever wins the election will be an enemy of
separation.

The fight for it can only be won by taking the issue to the people, educating
them as to why Jefferson & Madison were so committed to separation. Can you
scroll them up to 2004 & have either say, 'Yes!! I'm voting for Kerry. I don't
care that he intends to further weaken separation.' Of course not. But if you
can't say that they would vote for Kerry, you can't vote for him & then
pretend that you are defending their principles of separation of religion & state.

Lenni Brenner is the editor of 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the
Nazis and a contributor to The Politics of Anti-Semitism. He is presently
editing Jefferson & Madison on Separation of Church and State: Writings on Religion
and Secularism. It will be published by Barricade Books in late October. He
can be reached at BrennerL21@....

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From:     ptpeet@...

Subject:        [Ibogaine] (OT!) Re: abortion bad, bombing good

You can tell a person's level of moral development, and worth,
by how they take up for those who can't take up for themselves, and how they
will do the right things for people even though those people are so ignorant
they can't see it.<

Yes Faith,
Thank Goodness for Bush, who according to the above sentence is just like all other prohibitionist, fearmongering, warprofiteering maniacs. I'd hate to be against someone who has my better interests in mind, even if I'm unaware of what they are.
I understand you aren't going to change your mind, but Bush is dropping bombs on people who had not attacked us nor had not only no plans to but no way to do so, at least not that would be stopped by invading their country. How in the heck that is "moral" is beyond me. How people can so willingly support ever more murder is just stupid to me- especially when his supporters throw in such commentary as:

Anyone who will vote for partial-birth abortion is a

terrorist.  The safest place for a human on earth should be it's Mother's

womb.<

So, partial birth abortion is not cool, but dropping bombs on fully developed, innocent adult and children ferriners IS cool? How in the hell does this equate in your mind?
Egad.

Peace and love,

Preston

From:     ptpeet@...

Subject:        [Ibogaine] (OT) Re: [Ibogaine] Why wasn't this is the news?

Charlie wrote >No offense Julie, but the death toll of this war does not even compare to the hundreds of thousands (some say millions) of innocent Kurds and others this mad man gassed to death.<

Well,
   That's actually very debatable too Charlie. (Besides, when does murder of innocent people actually become ok anyway)?
   First of all, it appears that so far, thanks to our invasion, over 100,000 Iraqis have died:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6354133/
Study: 100,000 Iraqis died in war, aftermath
Science journal say coalition caused majority of violent deaths
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and the allegation that Saddam gassed his own people is one, not something that our own government is unfamiliar with doing to its own people (though granted it was under Clinton this particular incident I report on below happened, but still...):
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http://www.drugwar.com/waco.shtm
snip-
"No forensic pathologist who has examined the evidence has found any indication that the teargas killed any Davidian," notes the Report, "except Dr. Uwe Heinrich, who concluded if people couldn't leave a room, 'there is a distinct possibility that this kind of CS exposure can significantly contribute to or even cause death.'" The FBI used 48-hours worth of cs-gas in less than 6 hours, and had to request more. Autopsies found no smoke in many Davidian children's lungs, proving they'd died before the fire began. Danforth asserts, "some Davidians...could have experienced mild irritation, dizziness, and decreased responsiveness to visual and auditory signals from methylene chloride," the chemical mixed with CS to spray it in from the tanks. "Many Davidians moved away from exposed rooms...protecting themselves with gas masks and wet towels wrapped around their faces." As Doyle noted in his 1995 Congressional testimony, water increases the burning from CS. Perhaps if one completely blocks access to all skin with a wet towel it is possible to avoid the worst of the chemical's effects, but that would necessitate covering one's eyes, making it hard to escape the fire. The Davidian children had no gasmasks that fit to protect them, so received the full brunt of the gassing.
snip-
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and Two, the whole story about Saddam gassing his own people was denied by the US Army War College some years ago:
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http://quixote-quest.org/resources/national_international/IraqGasKurds_OilH2O_013103.html
snip-
And the story gets murkier: immediately after the battle the United States Defense Intelligence Agency investigated and produced a classified report, which it circulated within the intelligence community on a need-to-know basis. That study asserted that it was Iranian gas that killed the Kurds, not Iraqi gas.

The agency did find that each side used gas against the other in the battle around Halabja. The condition of the dead Kurds' bodies, however, indicated they had been killed with a blood agent - that is, a cyanide-based gas - which Iran was known to use. The Iraqis, who are thought to have used mustard gas in the battle, are not known to have possessed blood agents at the time.
snip-
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So even that rational for invading Iraq isn't quite as strong as we've been told.
The fact that Saddam wasn't a nice guy isn't debatable- but the fact that our govenment and taxes propped him up for years seems to me to make it imperative that we also invade and arrest and try all those, like Rumsfeld, who went and shook hands with Saddam AFTER the allegations of gassing had been made by some (http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/), those who supported him over the years, along with all the other despots and maniacs we support(ed) over the years (like Vladimir Montesinos for one other glaring example, of Peru, who isn't any longer in power but collected over 10 million from US taxpayers over the years, as he armed FARC, the very same guerillas we've been paying the Colombian government to wage war on. Neat trick that- arm our enemies then pay to wage war on them- gotta love that market support system). Why haven't we invaded everywhere else with dictators terrorizing their peoples? I'll tell you why- because Iraq has oil.
;-((
Peace and love,

Preston

From:     ptpeet@...

Subject:        [Ibogaine] (OT) Re: [Ibogaine] Faith's protection

Faith wrote >I love everyone and would
do my best to help anyone, but I've always had a strong sense of justice,
and do have a problem with hearing President Bush treated so badly by those
who he has taken so much heat to protect.   But, If Kerry wins, I will not
say a harsh word against him, because he would be my President, and any
criticism is fuel to terriorists fire and empowers them to kill more of our
troops.<

Last try, but I know it's useless.
(To start with, to revisit the "abortion bad, murder ferriners good", why is it that right-to-lifers are always so up in arms to protect the unborn, but to the same maniacs, the already born don't ever deserve such consideration or genuine protections? The version of freedom you're promoting here sucks Faith.)
Faith, we're not any safer- remember, Bush was already President when we suffered the biggest, deadliest attack on our soil less than a mile from my apartment

(http://www.wizardsofaz.com/freedomnewsnetwork/wtc-preston.html),

the one I smelled the results of for weeks, the burning wires, the blood and debris, and heard the screams that resulted all around the city as the buildings fell, and saw the thousands upon thousands of wide-eyed, panic-striken, debris laden pedestrians stream past my building all day fleeing the bloody destuction downtown- how anyone in their right mind would want to do this to other people leaves me sick to my stomach, especially after having lived through it personally, and makes me wonder about the sanity of those who wish to do this to other people and actually seem to think killing others is going to fix anything or make us any safer rather than piss of a lot of people who will as a result want to do us further harms. Plus, remember that Bush had myriad warnings prior to Sept. 11 2001, yet did nothing  to stop the attacks whatsoever:

(http://www.drugwar.com/pprewtcwarnings.shtm)

After watching those towers fall with m y own eyes, I'm thoroughly sickened whenever any of my fellow citizens try and tell me that doing this to others can be rationalized or justified. It's never ever justified, dropping bombs on innocent civilians, ever, whether the bomb comes in the form of a jetliner or many couple-hundred pound bombs. There's no difference, and to support its being done to others to make you (or me) safer is sick, perverted and evil. Your safety is the only important safety? Our streets are the only ones that should be without war, I mean, it's better on their streets than on ours? Yuck.
Plus, for you to bite your tongue because our President "deserves" no questioning leaves me feeling like you've dropped right outta 1984 or something, or Nazi Germany or Communist Russia or Saddam's Iraq. "Never question our leaders, that's off limits- freedom of speech only goes so far, remember?"

any criticism is fuel to terriorists fire and empowers them to kill more of our
troops.<

But dropping bombs on them won't? Egad, where's your thinking cap? Please, go find it and come back with something rational, please.
Oh yeah, I forget, you're supporting Bush still, even after all his lies, his blatant lying and murdering, because he's "protecting us," so I don't suppose your thinking cap gets much usage.
I don't know why I'm bothering with all these facts in your direction, as it's obviously you aren't engaged in thinking but rather in supporting wanton murder no matter what, so long as you feel safer.
How depressing.

Peace and love and genuine exasperation,

Preston

From:     ptpeet@...

Subject:        Re: [Ibogaine] Carla, re: George Bush, the fascist capitalist dictator from Texas

Carla, that's all propoganda.  I don't know the truth about this issue, so
I'll keep my mouth shut.<

Oh my GOD!
Shown easily researched and verifiable facts, that's "propaganda" but the stories about Kerry's purple hearts, no, they're genuine. (Let's see, Bush dodged actual combat, while Kerry, who I personally don't like at all either, actually did his "duty" and went to war. Yet, to Bush supporters, the actual warrior who did his duty is somehow suspect, while the pampered son of a former Head of the CIA, well, he's totally believable. What is going on here? How and when exactly did it become so fashionable to stop using ones brain?)
Do you read what you write before hitting send? You're getting more and more ridiculous as you dig deeper Faith.
I am stunned that there are such people in my country- not suprised at all, but still stunned when I see such commentary as what you are posting Faith. I'm trying to stay polite, firmly believing that it doesn't help change minds to point out in anger how stupid and brainless I feel whoever I'm arguing with is being, but in this case I'm having a lot of trouble remaining polite in the face of such non-thinking in support of a warmongering, Constitution-shredding liar like Bush.
Peace and love,

Preston

From:     ptpeet@...

Subject:        [Ibogaine] OT!) more on killing innocents

So this one is really mostly for Faith and her ilk, who seem to feel that unborn embryos are more special and deserving of safety and protection than those already born and alive.
Like all these women and children being killed by our forces today in Iraq.
Hmmm. So, is it ok that these hundred thousand plus are murdered by us, because we've stopped the murdering by Saddam of the very same people? Is our murding somehow less deadly or permenant than Saddams?
Sigh.
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(from another list I'm on- subscribe info at the bottom here.)

'The Lancet' -- the journal of the British Medical Association, and one of the most widely-read medical journals in the world, has just published a scientific research study documenting the massive slaughter of civilians in Iraq following the USA-led Iraq-Attack in March 2003.  Moreover, the study documents that MOST of the fatalities have been women and children, largely killed in air strikes by the USA and its 'coalition' members.

The address below gets you to the intro pages of the two pieces with further links -- users may need to register (which is free and easy):

http://www.thelancet.com/journal/vol364/iss9445/early_online_publication
_ _ _

Richard Horton, the editor of the Lancet was interviewed Friday morning on the BBC radio program 'Today'.  He said he was confident the figures in the article documented below were an accurate reflection of reality.

Medical research depends upon statistics, and most papers published in the Lancet, and all other international medical journals, use statistics to arrive at conclusions.

Britain's Channel 4 TV news Friday evening was quoting the Prime Minister's office and other sources as 'rubbishing' the statistical strength based upon numbers sampled, and whether those sampled are representative of the whole population.  They even said the 100,000 figure was an extrapolation of the sample figures -- well yes, they would be, wouldn't they?  Short of interviewing the entire population, they would have to be an extrapolation of a smaller number.

The editorial staff of the Lancet cannot publish any paper without analyzing the paper's validity based substantially upon on its statistical rigor. Research doctors and journal editors understand statistics as well as any other discipline might (apart I suppose than statisticians).  That is not to say no one ever gets it wrong ...

In other words Richard Horton is very publicly putting his reputation on the line over this paper.

[Above comments by Dr. Peter Hall on list JUSTWATCH-L]
_ _ _

The study is titled:

Mortality Before and After the 2003 Invasion of Iraq: Cluster Sample Survey
by Les Roberts, Riyadh Lafta, Richard Garfield, Jamal Khudhairi, and Gilbert Burnham

Summary

Background

In March, 2003, military forces, mainly from the USA and the UK, invaded Iraq.  We did a survey to compare mortality during the period of 14-16 months before the invasion with the 17-18 months after it.

Methods

A cluster sample survey was undertaken throughout Iraq during September, 2004.  33 clusters of 30 households each were interviewed about household composition, births, and deaths since January, 2002.  In those households reporting deaths, the date, cause, and circumstances of violent deaths were recorded.  We assessed the relative risk of death associated with the 2003 invasion and occupation by comparing mortality in the 17·8 months after the invasion with the 14·6-month period preceding it.

Findings

The risk of death was estimated to be 2.5-fold (95% CI 1·6-4·2) higher after the invasion when compared with the pre-invasion period.  Two-thirds of all violent deaths were reported in one cluster in the city of Fallujah.  If we exclude the Fallujah data, the risk of death is 1.5-fold (1·1-2·3) higher after the invasion.  We estimate that 98,000 more deaths than expected (8,000-194,000) happened after the invasion outside of Fallujah, and far more if the outlier Fallujah cluster is included.  The major causes of death before the invasion were myocardial infarction, cerebrovascular accidents, and other chronic disorders, whereas after the invasion violence was the primary cause of death.  Violent deaths were widespread, reported in 15 of 33 clusters, and were mainly attributed to coalition forces.  Most individuals reportedly killed by coalition forces were women and children. The risk of death from violence in the period after the invasion was 58 times higher (95% CI 8·1-41!
9) tha
n in the period before the war.

Interpretation

Making conservative assumptions, we think that about 100,000 excess deaths, or more, have happened since the 2003 invasion of Iraq.  Violence accounted for most of the excess deaths and air strikes from coalition forces accounted for most violent deaths.  We have shown that collection of public-health information is possible even during periods of extreme violence.  Our results need further verification and should lead to changes to reduce non-combatant deaths from air strikes.

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From:     bchloej@...

Subject:        RE: [Ibogaine] (OT!) Re: abortion bad, bombing good

There's a difference in thought and intent of heart.  We intend to kill only the terriorists, but some innocent people will get killed in the process.  I have never studied Catholism, but saw, on TV, a priest saying the same thing I feel--about abortion.  It's premediated, deliberate murder. But, I have friends that believe the way most of you feel, so I probably need to try to keep my beliefs to myself--especially when it's clear that it won't do any good to voice them.

From:     sara119@...

Subject:        RE: [Ibogaine] (OT!) Re: abortion bad, bombing good

I don't think anybody would do an abortion for fun.
There must be a reason when people decide they can't have

A baby. I think having business of selling babies is emotionally worst.

From:     fakeplacebo@...

Subject:        Re: [Ibogaine] (OT!) Re: abortion bad, bombing good

Hey C'mon,
Accidentaly killing  "some innocent people"; for example Doing experiment on
weak nuclear bombs on American soldiers. Did you ever heard about so many
USA soldiers get cought cancer beacuse of this "experimental things". Would

you tell me that is there any reasonable evidence between 11/9 and Iraq?

This is same dictator that USA supported Saddam while war againest Iran. Is
this same guy? Would you tell me: when USA bombed and killed whole peoples
in a town in afghanistan paid 100$ for each. Same USA  paid  to 11/9 plane
victims for each million dollars. Are they same humans are they equal?

In here my country USA supported by the hand of CIA military dictators and
same dictators killed so many Kurds and Turks only for their thinking.
Military used USA made weapons. Was it "accidentaly"?

What a dirty game...

Best Regards

FakePlacebo

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From: tents444@...

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MMM webform for adding or updating MMM cities worldwide:
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Dana Beal's MMM email compilations are archived here:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/mmmworld ~
To subscribe to that email list send a blank email to:
mmmworld-subscribe@yahoogroups.com ~

The MMM city list alone can be subscribed to from here:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/mmmnet ~
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mmmnet-subscribe@yahoogroups.com ~

With less than 5% of the world's population
the USA has over 2.2 million of the world's
9 million prisoners!:
http://www.corporatism.netfirms.com/rates.htm and
http://www.corporatism.netfirms.com/world.htm

MMM (Million Marijuana March) Yahoo Group. Click:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cannabisaction