Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 00:24:14 -0400
From: Dana Beal
Subject: MMM 2004 #51: BUSH/GIULIANI BAD KARMA DOOMS YANKS; BOSOX PRESAGE
KERRY VICTORY!; Chicago Makes 81 Cities on the Global Marijuana March
May 7, 2005

Important: get your city on the list for the Global Marijuana March, May 7, 2005!

So far we have confirmed 81 cities:

Albany

Albuquerque

Athens

Asheville

Auckland

Bergen

Berlin

Boone

Boulder

Buenos Aires

Burlington

Capetown

Chicago

Chico

Christchurch

Cincinnati

Colorado Springs

Columbia

Darwin

Des Moines

Detroit

Dover

Dublin

Dunedin

East Lansing

Eugene

Fayetteville

Frankfurt

Ft. Smith

Hartford

Hatchita

Houston

Kansas City

Kristiansand

Lethbridge

Lexington

London

Los Angeles

Mexico City

Missoula

Montreal

Moscow

Nashville

Newark

New Paltz

New York

Nimbin

Ogden

Oslo

Paris

Peoria

Philadelphia

Phoenix

Portland

Potsdam

Prague

Raleigh

Rapid City

Reno

Richmond

Roanoke

Rosario

Rostock

San Francisco

Sarasota

Savannah

Spokane

Stavanger

St. Louis

Stockholm

Tampa

Thunder Bay

Toronto

Traverse City

Tromsoe

Trondheim

Tucson

Upper Lake

Vancouver

Washington, D.C.

Wilmington

There is also some international MMM networking going on at
this CannabisCulture.com message forum:

http://www.cannabisculture.com/forums/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=current

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*****!!!Global Marijuana March--May 7, 2004:  Updates,  Reports!!!*****

New Listings by Phone--

Chicago: Karen (847) 2934862

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From: YesOn66@...

This is absolutely excellent news!
No doubt, it's because MPP has successfully circumvented Nadelmann's
intervention.

Richard Lake wrote:

OUTSIDE INTERESTS FINANCE LOCAL PRO-MARIJUANA EFFORT

Initiative: Alaska Group Buys Ads With $550,000 From D.C.-Based Marijuana

Policy Project.

A group working to decriminalize marijuana in Alaska has been bankrolled by

an Outside organization to the tune of half a million dollars, making it

one of the best-funded ballot issue groups in state history, according to

reports filed with the Alaska Public Offices Commission.

Alaskans For Marijuana Regulation and Control has already spent most of the

$551,227 buying airtime for radio and television ads, mailing brochures,

paying staffers and conducting get-out-the-vote telephone pushes, according

to the group's 30-day pre-election campaign disclosure report filed Monday.

All but $510 of the money came from the Washington, D.C.-based Marijuana

Policy Project, which is also funding pro-pot initiatives in other states

this year.

With 27 days to go until the Nov. 2 election, Alaskans For Marijuana

Regulation and Control has already outspent nearly all the ballot issue

groups in state and local elections dating back to 1997, APOC records show.

Only three groups since 1997 have spent more: the Alaska Family Coalition

spent about $617,000 in 1998 to push for a constitutional amendment banning

same-sex marriage; the Yes Committee spent $650,000 in 2002 on its campaign

for a new convention center in Anchorage; and the Vote Yes! Committee spent

almost $700,000 in 1999 to push for using part of the Permanent Fund to

balance the state budget. Only the same-sex marriage measure won voter

approval.

The fund raising is further evidence the legalization campaign this year is

more sophisticated than a similar, unsuccessful effort in 2000.

Alaskans For Marijuana Regulation and Control has about 55 times the amount

of money as the only organized opposition to Ballot Measure 2: Alaskans

Against the Legalization of Marijuana/Hemp.

That group, which fought against legalization efforts in 2000, has about

$10,000 in its coffers, according to its APOC report.

Matthew Fagnani, president of the local drug-testing firm WorkSafe Inc. and

chairman of the opposition group, declined to discuss his group's campaign

strategy. He said he's working with about half a dozen people to defeat

Ballot Measure 2, which he said would have "grave social ramifications" on

Alaska if it passes.

The initiative would make it legal under state law for people 21 and older

to grow, use, sell or give away marijuana. It would also allow for state

regulation and taxation of marijuana similar to alcohol or tobacco and for

laws limiting use in public and to protect public safety.

"I think Alaskans need to be aware that this initiative is clearly

supported and financed by Outside interests that have very little to do

with Alaska," Fagnani said in an interview Monday. "They're trying to make

Alaska a poster child for the rest of the nation."

Bruce Mirken, a spokesman for the Marijuana Policy Project, said if the

measure passes, "it could be a signal of larger changes to come around the

country." But even if it fails, he said, it's still a step in the right

direction for stimulating a discussion on marijuana policy that the nation

needs to have.

"This is nothing we came up with and got on the ballot," Mirken said. "This

s a totally homegrown campaign."

Mirken said his organization has about 15,000 dues-paying members,

including some in Alaska. One of those members is Ohio billionaire Peter B.

Lewis, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. This year Lewis

donated $485,000 to MPP, as well as $2.5 million to the anti-war, anti-Bush

online advocacy group MoveOn.org and about $3 million to a similar

organization, America Coming Together.

Mirken said a big part of what the MPP does "is support local activists who

have ideas but maybe not a lot of resources."

The Marijuana Policy Project has spent comparable amounts of money as in

Alaska on other statewide marijuana initiatives in Nevada, Oregon and

Montana, Mirken said, although he didn't have exact figures.

According to the Billings, Mont., Gazette, the MPP spent about $197,000 as

of mid-September on a campaign there to legalize the use of medical

marijuana -- something Alaska voters did in 1998.

The Statesman Journal in Salem, Ore., recently reported that the MPP spent

about $476,000 as of Sept. 16 on a campaign there to expand access to

medical marijuana.

It was not clear how much money the organization spent in Nevada. An

initiative there, similar to the one Alaskans will vote on next month,

failed to make it to the ballot after a signature snafu. Supporters are

already gearing up to get it on the 2006 ballot, Mirken said.

Mirken did not know how much money his organization contributed to the

failed legalization efforts in Alaska in 2000. "It certainly was not the

sort of sizable support we're doing this year," he said.

That initiative, which was turned down by about 60 percent of voters, also

aimed to decriminalize pot, but the age limit included in the measure was

younger: 18. It also wanted the government to set free some jail inmates

convicted of marijuana crimes and set up a commission to consider

restitution to them.

"It overreached a bit," Mirken said -- a sentiment expressed by people on

both sides of the issue.

This time around, proponents have stripped down their demands on voters to

make the measure more appealing. They also have some prominent figures on

their side: an associate biomedical professor, a former deputy commissioner

of corrections and a former attorney for the Republican Party of Alaska.

Some opponents of legalization have expressed worry about the professional

nature of the campaign, but Fagnani said he has faith the measure will fail

despite "misleading" ads by proponents.

Some of the ads -- there are four, two radio and two television -- portray

Ballot Measure 2 as a privacy issue, the argument being that Alaskans have

a constitutional right to use small amounts of pot in the privacy of their

own home and that despite this, the government still spends "millions" to

enforce prohibition.

"If the privacy of your home isn't respected now, then what's next?" one

radio ad asks. "Will they be at your door demanding to know if you have

cigarettes in your home? Or alcohol? Or guns? Don't let this be the future

for Alaska."

Other ads portray the measure as a public policy issue, saying the

government's drug war has failed, that too many kids can get their hands on

pot and that Alaska needs to try something new, like regulation.

Fagnani doesn't buy the arguments: "If this initiative passes, Alaska will

have more social problems than they currently have with alcohol or

tobacco," he said. "I would rely on the intelligence of the voters to read

the initiative very carefully and come to the conclusion that this is not a

good policy."

Alaskans For Marijuana Regulation and Control is working with two main

groups locally: Yes on 2 and Alaskans for Rights and Revenues.

Yes on 2 has raised close to $21,000 to date, according to its APOC report.

Most of those donations were nonmonetary covering such things as office

space and utilities. About $1,300 was in cash or checks from 21

individuals, all but two of them Alaskans.

Alaskans for Rights and Revenues has raised about $1,655, according to its

treasurer, Tim Hinterberger, an associate professor at the biomedical

program at the University of Alaska Anchorage. Most of those were

individual donations, he said. The largest single one, for $975, was from

the Texas-based Foundation for Constitutional Protection.

Alaskans for Marijuana Regulation and Control has already spent more than

$300,000 on radio and television spots.

David Finkelstein, a former state legislator and the paid treasurer for the

group, said that's probably it for the television ads, which are scheduled

to air through Election Day. But, he said, "We have a lot of potential for

expansion in print and radio."

There are no limits under state law on how much can be contributed to

ballot issue groups.

[sidebar]

TEXT OF BALLOT MEASURE 2

This bill would remove civil and criminal penalties under state law for

persons 21 years or older who grow, use, sell or give away marijuana or

hemp products. State or local government could not require a permit or

license for personal cultivation or distribution of marijuana, but could

regulate marijuana like alcohol or tobacco. It removes all existing state

restrictions on prescription of marijuana by a doctor for all patients,

including children. It allows for laws limiting marijuana use in public and

to protect public safety.

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*****BUSHWHACKED!!*****

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http://www.pollingreport.com/wh04gen.htm

 A little on the light side in the midst of this crazy election....
 
   One night George W. Bush is tossing restlessly in his White House bed.
 
  He awakens to see George Washington standing beside him. Bush looks
up and asks, "George, what's the best thing I can do to help the country ?"
"Set an honest and honorable example, just as I did, "Washington advises,
then fades away.
 
  The next night, Bush is astir again when he sees the ghost of Thomas
Jefferson moving silently around the bedroom. Bush calls out: "Tom, please
! What is the best thing I could do to help the country ?"
  "Respect the Constitution, as I did," Jefferson advises, and then
dims from sight.
  The third night sleep still evades Bush. He sees the ghost of FDR
hovering over his bed. Bush lowers his voice and asks, "Franklin,
What is the best thing I could do to help the country ?"
   In that golden voice of his, FDR replies, "Help the less fortunate, just
as I did," and then he disappears.
  Bush still isn't sleeping well the fourth night. He tosses and turns,
and suddenly another figure moves out of the shadows. It's the
ghost of Abraham Lincoln. "Abe," Bush pleads, "what's the best
thing I can do right now to help the country?"
  Lincoln pauses,
 
  then replies,
 

  "Go see a play."

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Huge Errors in Bush No-Fly List, Bans Over 20,000
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/101004B.shtml

GI's Told "Don't Ask When You're Going Home"
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/101104X.shtml

Nuclear Assets 'Vanish' in Iraq

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/101304D.shtml

Iraq Faces Soaring Toll of Deadly Disease

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/101404C.shtml

CIA 'Old Guard' Goes to War with Bush
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/101104D.shtml

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From: BiscuitBoy714@...

Hey all, I'm having a real problem with residual withdrawals. Nothing major just little twinges but its bugging the hell out of me. They come back about 48 hours after a booster. I'm blessed with a very good source for cannabis but that just doesn't cut it. Maybe Sara can help me. Is it better to make butter and eat it as opposed to smoking it?I would appreciate any suggestions.        Randy      PS This still is the best I've ever felt in 25 years.

From: sara119@...

Hi Randy,What I normally do is a strong pot of tea, cannabis anis ginger and one tables spoon of olive oil .you cook the ginger with anis seeds first, then

You set it on simmer heat , you put about 5grams or more per pot tea you add the olive oil and keep on this low heat for about 15 minutes.

You put some honey in your cup and drink as much as you need some people start tripping on this tea, so stay at home when you do it, don't forget to take hot baths. Tell me how it works for you, It takes two weeks to feel the energy coming back.

Good luck, Randy!

Sara

From: brad.fisher@...

Randy, your positive report of coming off Methadone is encouraging, I too have been on MMT many years at a much higher than normal dose. It has been suggested to me that perhaps Ibogaine would work in stages.
your response is appreciated

bf

From: BiscuitBoy714@...

Brad I came off of about 160 mg.s. I had a surplus. My dose was 60 mg. I guess I had to go out in style.

I heard tell of a guy coming off of about 300 mg.s From my experience it doesn't really matter too much the dose. Its the will to deal with little twinges of withdrawal that counts. Ibogaine will take care of just about anything that comes up, but methadone being so long acting is the only thing that doesn't get killed completely. I read data for a year before I did this and never ever did I see an account of Ibogaine not working no matter what the dose.         Randy

From: ptpeet@...

There are a few of those reports out there, but I honestly think that's
going to be the case no matter what the technique used to "kick" drugs.
Desire to kick must be there first and foremost. Otherwise, when the
residual twinges set in, folks are going to run to whatever it is that gives
them immediate relief.
    Some might debate on whether these people who report withdrawals
symptoms after taking ibogaine are imagining it, but I don't believe that
for even a second, having become very very aware of just how dope sick I
could still be at that 12 hour after taking the main dose mark, even though
I'd been told emphatically that it couldn't possibly be true, that I wasn't
reeeeally kicking. Of course, taking a booster did help end that sensation-
or at least, taking a booster and a few Valiums and then tripping for
another 24 hours also helped.
    Again, I can't stress the hot baths enough Randy. Put on some incense
(if you like the stuff), smoke a bowl, and soak in the bath with music you
really like on (Bowie's Ziggy Stardust is always a good choice for me while
soaking in the bath kicking, as is anything that includes "Jane Says" on
it).

Peace and love,
Preston

From: ptpeet@...

HI all,
    Cletus Nelson has kindly given permission to reprint his latest article,
"Recovery in Russia- Inside a Detox Gulag," so I pass it on to the rest of
you.
    I often am reminded that no matter how hellish things are here at home,
there are plenty of places where things are even worse.

http://www.drugwar.com/rehabgulag.shtm

Recovery in Russia:
Inside a Detox Gulag

by Cletus Nelson

posted at DrugWar.com
Oct. 9, 2004
originally published at
Points of Departure

(image)

Victoria Malakhova could care less whether you "work your steps," find your
inner-child, or connect with some unnamed "higher power." Instead, the
iron-fisted director of the most brutal drug treatment center in Russia is
interested in only one thing: results.

"Isolation, bread and water, that's all one needs to deal with withdrawal,"

she informs a western journalist.

Welcome to City Without Drugs (CWD) and the sadistic world of
Recovery---Russian style.

snip-

Read Article at above URL

Peace and love,
Preston Peet

From: rachelradha@...

Oh, Randy & Ann, wouldn't it be nice if one could run
out to the local space shop for a box of psilocybin
mushroom to put in that tea???

I have no personal experience with dope w/d except for
getting a runny nose one time coming off of a course
of painkillers for a knee injury.  But if hot baths or
steams help, I'll add that cranberry juice is also

very detoxifying for the system.  The straight 100%
kind, not cut with sweetener etc.  Just don't know if
its too acidic for the post-Eye velvet body.

This is more newagey (I've already signalled my
interest in astrology previously) but I've also had
assistance at times from the Bach flower remedies --
subtle plant auras in the healing waters, their
essence rather than actual herbal tinctures.  Rescue
Remedy is a five-flower combination which helps with
stress.  You take a few drops in water or under the
tongue.  It is preserved in brandy, however, so some
abstinence-types might want to avoid the alcohol.
They usually have at the U.S. health food stores,
sometimes with larger selections of both Bach and the
FES brands, and I think are in the UK apothecaries
(developed in Britain).  Its especially good for the
person lending assistance to the sick one.

Here's a New Zealand site about them,
http://www.nmessences.com/

And a larger online store,
http://www.essencesonline.com/

Depending on the soul lessons one is "trying" to
integrate, the help of flower devas can truly be a
blessing.

- Rachel

From: UUSEAN@...

Hi Rachel,

Sorry it took so long for me to get back.  I am glad Ann jumped in with her empathetic support.  I would say that my Mom took the stance that there was nothing about ibogaine that was scarier than see me live in my forties the way I did in my thirties.  In those ten years I contracted HIV and HepC, in the last year overdosed nine times, was homeless on the West Coast..you get the idea.

It is right and sane to be concerned about ibogaine I believe. As you know there have been a handful of deaths over the years, probably due to addicts bringing opiates into their treatments. It is so vital to make square that there is absolutely no presence of drugs (or booze) available during treatment. Herbal assistance was fine from my experience, but that's it. Period. Opiates, coke, pills..could surely lead to death.

In a way I made a risk/benefir ratio before using ibogaine, did a hell of a lot of research (have you been to the ibogaine.mindvox site)? and came down on the side of ibogaine. I tired 12 step, therapy, halfway houses, 30 day treatments..it goes on and on.

I presented it all to my parents. While still very concerned, they agreed that there was nothing scarier about ibogaine than living the life of a crackhead/junkie.  I applaud you and your son for investigating this amazing addiction interrupter.


Enough outta me,
Sean

From: UUSEAN@...

Hi list,

Six days later, still no desire for crack or heroin.  I am very plugged into the ibo community, and that is helping a lot to fill my time now that I am not running around seeking out drugs and using them.  Got a phone call today form a friend on the West Coast who is writing a book on ibogaine experience and could use some assistance.

Our conversations mostly revolved around the fact there is more to ibogaine that simply raw numbers of who stays clean and who relapses. There is why certain people will seek ibogaine as opposed to other treatments. What are the expectations?
There is the pscho/spirtual piece, there is the ibo journey itself, what finds out about themselves or doesn't.  What is different afterwards? Even for those who do use again, has their been harm reduction..does knowing that there is a way to kick without so much suffering give hope that they can....

Anyway, just throwing this out. If any of the above gives you food for thought drop please post it. As for me, I am still in post ibo glow. The world looks so beautiful and new. I am so calm and peaceful today. Life without craving is truly beautiful.

To all struggling hang in. If I got one really strong message from my trip, it is that everything passes, everything passes.

Peace,
Sean

From: dave@...

sausage casings, gelatin caps, even cigarette rolling paper will work.

or you can do like the bwiti and make an "indra banana split" (stuff the indra into a banana), altho I would encourage the indra to be taken on an empty stomach.

***drink LOTS of water in the of couple days before you dose- Be well Hydrated, this is very important.

_.DH

On Saturday, October 9, 2004, at 12:08 AM, BiscuitBoy714@... wrote:

    Fakeplacebo, I saw a way on here last year. Take the Indra and put it in sausage casings. maybe when Dave sees this he will say more (I think its Dave). But anyway just make sure you make them loosely as they are easier to swallow that way. It sounded perfect to me.     Randy

From: rachelradha@...

Hi Ann, and others into the Remedies,

I don't think the Bach company itself makes
non-alcohol based essences.  Some local practitioners
may use glycerin or vinegar based preservatives.  The
big FES out in California may make special orders,
http://www.fesflowers.com/index.htm

I want to emphasize that the amount of alcohol
preserving the essences is very small - about 5% - and
for dosing you can take the drops in a larger glass of
water to dilute even further, so one doesn't get a
"triggering" taste of the brandy by taking them
sublingually.  I just mentioned it as a caution since
we are talking about addiction dynamics.  And, I
guess, sensitivity.

On the other hand, of course, I've met some folks in
12-Step moods that think any dosing -- including lots
of vitamin C or whatever to "support detox" is too
much within the paradigm of pill-popping -- but this
is the left handed school, eh Preston?

Whatever antioxidants do is, I think, the chemistry of
cranberry juicing. 

Here's a description of Recue Remedy -- I remembered
that you sometims CAN buy this formula in a cream to
apply instead, say to aching muscles or something:

"As for the Rescue Remedy, it is a mix of five
remedies - Rock Rose for terror, Clematis for
light-headedness, Impatiens for agitation, Cherry Plum
for loss of self-control and Star of Bethlehem for
shock. Dr Bach selected these five remedies because he
felt there would be at least something in the mix that
would help anyone going through a crisis. To take it
you simply put four drops in a glass of water and sip
as required - and in an emergency, if there is no
water available, you can put the drops straight on the
tongue or rub them on the pulse points. Common uses
for Rescue Remedy include calming down the victims of
accidents and combatting pre-operation nerves. Many
midwives use them to help mothers through labour."

love from ny, rachel (who is jeff's wife, not his mom)

From: sara119@...

Hi RACHEL,

I use Bach remedies for many years now with my kids, I have found that most
People who use drugs are not sensitive enough to it, they say they don't
feel it. I curious to know if post Ibogaine can change the level of
sensitivity, I'm sure about it but have no prove.
Anyway today I will have the Iboga homeopathic remedy in three different
strength, I will be using it with the next patient, who will be coming of
130 mg of Methadone.

S.

From: rachelradha@...

Hi Sara...

That's true; the Remedies are very subtle, and like
all homeopathics, work "better" on clearer fields. 

I do think some of the 'sturdier' plant medicines can
come through the haze, 'tho, if only anecdotally
because Jeff will sometimes take a bottle I make up
for him for 10 or 12 days, and then suddenly "give up"
before the healing catharsis because its rattling him
on a vibrational level.  That's behind 50-60 mgs
methadone.  So yarrow, for example, which can be a
psychic shield against the external world's
"influences" is helpful.

On the left-handed path, Preston, I took that from a
DrugWar article you wrote back in August

http://www.drugwar.com/pkickingdrugswithdrugs.shtm

with love,
Rachel

From: ms_iboga@...

Dear Randy and Sean,

I would have to agree with you about the weed/booze
paradigm: weed seems to promote relaxation, appetite
and sleep, while booze (for me, at least) tends to
lead to other, less productive places.  Maybe it's
because alcohol, like opiates, are CNS depressants,
and using a CNS depr. triggers body-memories of
opiates..?

Julie

From: skrupa20022002@...

Hi Y'all,and congratulations to he recent ibonauts trip! I haven't posted in a little bit, but i read daily. When I last wrote i was slipping off & on, what's really weird is that I'm not really craving much even as a consequence of a little chipping, last nite an old "friend" called & offered me some , but i said no thanks!-unbelievable! Seems that even though I'm past the nor-ibogaine phase I'm not interested in jumping on the addiction train again. I am however wanting to do ibogaine again for spiritual growth. Such amazing soul growth has occurred due to my 3  voyages- for instance I started acupuncture school & graduated this past Wednesday!!!!! I've made a new circle of friends that love me unconditionally,been to my home when I was first exploring drugs during the hippy era twice- BERMUDA  and I'm leaving this  next Sunday for my third trip.Gonna find out if its illegal there, I have many friends who have habits there. Anyway y'all are my inspiration & entertainment ,I appreciate everyone & am grateful to be a part of this great voyage-Shell

From: Otter60@...

My daugher came off of 100mg. methadone with ibo, she had a few bad days but was able to handle it. she told me that about 90 percent of the withdrawal was gone. Very effective, getting off of methadone in one day,
The problem, in my opinion, is not the physical withdrawal but the emotional one. After a year and  about 6 relapses, she is probably going back on methadone again. It seems to be the only way she can handle her depression, anxiety, and ADHD. In spite of medications.   The last i heard, she was at a shelter after getting out of detox. no beds available for treatment.  She had been thru ibo tx a year ago, got off of methadone, but has relapsed about every 3 mos. since. (mostly on benzos, but I think now back on H. so she was talking about going back on methadone after her latest detox.
The prioblem is not the physicaldetox but the emotional addicton.
Ann please help me.  After 10 years of this i am in so much pain I am drinking too much and tempted to go on opiates myself, just to kill the pain.
Peace and thanks for this list,
Otter

From: UUSEAN@...

Hi Otter,

I am sorry you are in so much pain right now, but am glad you are posting on a list where you can vent. I couldn't help but think form reading your post that maybe your daughter could use a string aftercare plan after ibo TX. I know that the first time out I did not plan well enough how I would deal with life afterwards, and I relapsed very quickly.

This time I am in therapy, attend a post ibo support group, and am meeting a whole new group of friends in NY who support me to the fullest in effort to not go back to the coke/crack and H.  I think that a new support system is essential at the very least. Some found 12 step groups very helpful for this. I mean post ibo support like we have in NYC right now is very rare. Someone can back for Mexico for example and network with a whole community of ibonaoughts.

Anyway, please keep posting.

Sean

From: jimhadey3@...

Hi Sean,
 
Neither one of us is a NA, AA lover, but you got to admit that alcohol can lower you will to resist.  Get a little alcohol buzz and the next thing you REALLY want to get high.  Of all the people on this forum you are one who I have a great deal of respect for.  If you can do it and stay off I feel there is hope for me.  I got a hunch others feel the same way.   Your an inspiration to us all.  Oh if I only had the strength, willpower or whatever Sean has.
 
Keep it up, it seems that once a person has been using for many of years and they are past either 25 or 35 years they are VERY hard to get off.  The failure rate is Very high.  From what I have read even the best detox centers, NA or whatever only has a 10% chance.  Those are poor odds.  I hope to try some Ibo soon and hope to stay off for the rest of my life.  After 38 years you get tired of it.  Maybe, just maybe the Ibo will work, it has to, I am running out of time.  What started out as fun has for all practial purposes ruined my life.  Yea, you know the story.  I want to smoke a little weed now and then and take the meds my doc gives me.  That with maybe srooms 2 or 3 times a year.  Then I will consider my kick a success.  I am so tired of being a slave to drugs, so, so tired.

Best to ya Sean,
 

  - JIM

From: mcorcoran27@...

Hello all. Been quite a while since I posted, now that my lap top is in storage, but I'm still reading as much as I can and I love to see how this list continues to grow.
Sorry if I'm being redundant, but I had my share of residual withdrawals post Ibo and that first couple of weeks can be extremely tough... especially for methadone. I'm just beginning to feel about right 2 and a half months out. Chills and aches and pains and funny sweating were a part of my daily routine for weeks after, but the big difference was in spite of all of that, the noise in my head was gone, or that mental battle I had with myself for all those years was no longer keeping me prisoner. I had resolve this time and I was willing to go though whatever I had to because I knew it was only going to get better and it did and continues to. Things haven't been easy. I lost my job after getting back to NY, I lost my apartment, and I have never been so broke in my life. I've had my ass kicked by a bad parasitic infection which I picked up during my session and I'm only just starting to get over that in the past couple of days. but through all of it I have held onto one thing and that is that as long as I let the process continue to work no matter how difficult and uncomfortable things might be at times my life is only going to get better and all of these things will work themselves out. In my opinion, you have to have a strong desire to change going into this process or it just wont work.

Randy - keep on keepin on. I'm so glad everything worked out the way it did I only wished I had been able to meet you. Soon I'm sure. -M.

From: BiscuitBoy714@...

Marc, its so good to see you on the list. I plan on coming down this Friday. Where will we meet? I could drive straight to C's place. I figure if I come early enough I'll get to town before he wakes up. I'll get in touch and figure out where to meet. I won't leave till I meet a few people. I'm feeling much better today. The withdrawals are tolerable if I can get some sleep. Its the 3 in the morning I can't sleep and my body doesn't want to stop moving feeling that really bugs me. My Dr. gave me something for sleep, and I think it will help a lot. Its just that after 20 years of methadone use it takes a while to get all of that Hitler poison out of my system. If I can get 5 or 6 hours of sleep I'm good to go. Shit dude when I fronted metal bands in the early 80's I could go for a day or two and not feel it. Now if I miss some sleep it kills me. It even effects my voice now if I don't get enough sleep. The days of rockin' till it pisses off the mayor are gone. Well,' maybe we could piss him off one more time if it is worth it. Wouldn't be the first time. Can you imagine Dana Beal talking thru a 10'000 watt PA? I feel so good I want to rock.         Randy        PS where can I get a cheap hotel room?

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