Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 18:36:21 -0400
From: Dana Beal
Subject: MMM 2004 #46: Hurricanes Selectively Trash Florida GOP Precincts;
Boone, Boulder, Colorado Springs, Des Moines, Dover, Newark, Sarasota,
Tampa, Wilmington Make 55 Cities on the Global Marijuana March May 7,
2005!

Important: get your city on the list for May 7, 2005!

So far we have confirmed 55 cities:

Albany

Athens

Asheville

Auckland

Bergen

Boone

Boulder

Burlington

Christchurch

Cincinnati

Colorado Springs

Columbia

Des Moines

Detroit

Dover

Dublin

East Lansing

Eugene

Fayetteville

Hatchita

Houston

Kansas City

Kristiansand

Lexington

Missoula

Montreal

Moscow

Newark

New Paltz

New York

Nimbin

Oslo

Paris

Peoria

Philadelphia

Phoenix

Prague

Raleigh

Rapid City

Reno

Richmond

Sarasota

Spokane

Stavanger

St. Louis

Tampa

Thunder Bay

Toronto

Tromsoe

Trondheim

Tucson

Upper Lake

Vancouver

Washington, D.C.

Wilmington

There is also some international MMM networking going on at
this CannabisCulture.com message forum:

http://www.cannabisculture.com/forums/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=current

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From: cirv@...

Dana, please add Sarasota, FLorida to the list.  We will represent the Global March as well.  I will be the contact person, though my email address should be listed as Sarasota-CAN-Owner@yahoogroups.com

I may be able to get a group in Tampa to march as well.  We will have to see if they have the motivation.  I am cc'ing the group, and the contact should be listed as Tampabay-can-owner@yahoogroups.com

Viva la REsistance,
Anthony Lorenzo

New Listings by phone--

Boone: Josh "K" <tarheel_josh@...> 919-274-5930 http://www.hempclub.org/  [postal: Josh K, ASU HEMP Club, ASU Box 8953, Boone, NC 28608]

Des Moines: Iowa NORML, PO Box 2144, Davenport, IA  52809 James Getman 563-386-0099 qchemp@... Party Down TV: http://qchemp.tzo.com , http://commonlink.com/~olsen/ , http://mojo.calyx.net/~olsen/ , http://www.iowanorml.org/ , http://www.druglibrary.org/olsen/index.html ; or Terry Mitchell tushona@... (515) 789-4442; 608 Dallas St., Dexter, Iowa 50070

Dover: Richard J. Schimelfenig rschimel@... Delaware Cannabis Society, 63 Lawson Ave. Claymont, DE 19703 (302) 793-0716. Nathan Coffield nathacof@... 18 Kent Circle, Dover, DE 19904.

Newark: "Richard J. Schimelfenig" <rschimel@...> Delaware Cannabis Society, 63 Lawson Ave.

Claymont, DE 19703 (302) 793-0716

Wilmington: "Richard J. Schimelfenig" <rschimel@...> Delaware Cannabis Society, 63 Lawson Ave.

Claymont, DE 19703 (302) 793-0716

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From: christenmitchell@...

Jeff Christen-Mitchell
christenmitchell@...
Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
 

Dana,

           
Jeff Christen-Mitchell
christenmitchell@...
Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
 

Dana,

    Sign us up for May 7. We are at NORMLforBoulder.org. Thanks for the opportunity to work for change. Our NORML chapter is about a month old. We would like to put the May 7th March on our calender. My phone is 303 449-4854.

 

In our lifetime,

Jeff, Chair and Libertarian Boulder County Commissioner Candidate

From: rmelamed@...

Colorado Springs YES!
Bob

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From: mikecane01@...

Subject: God hates Bush voters

Sometimes we read politics into the strangest
things...

http://www.bartcop.com/message-from-God.gif

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mikecane01@...

(please note the zero-one after my name @ yahoo!)

>>>>>> DON'T VOTE FOR BUSH!!! <<<

From: slowone@...

On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 19:12:19 -0700 CallieMimosa@... wrote:

>> ...
>> Draft and a turn in  Vietnam was mandatory unless
>>you did not pass physical exam for service or was a  Conscientious

>>Objector.


Or unless you joined the National Guard, which Bush did with the aid
of family connections, and apparently didn't even do his duty there,
again with the help of family political connections.


>>>>Mr Bush was a drunkard
>
>>I am not sure I agree with you 100%.


It seems to be commonly accepted.


>>Personally, I don't care if our President has toked weed, snorted
>>coke or battled liquor as long as it is in their past.
>>Shows that they are human just like me.


Good point, however some abstaining alcoholics are said to be "dry drunks,
" not having reformed their personalities. Bush's grandiosity has been
taken as a symptom of this.


>>>>Mr.  Bush seems to have limited intelligence,
>
>>I have heard other people say this but I think President Bush is
>>above average intelligence.


He acts very confident, I'll grant you, and is skilful at conveying this.
He is considered by both parties as being incurious about the world,
relying more on divine (gut) inspiration. Have you seen him in Fahrenheit
9/11, when he has been told that the 9/11 attacks have taken place?

If you want to find something that he has said of more than a sentence
or two that seems above average, we might have an interesting discussion
about it.

Other than disagreeing with you, it's great to see how you are willing
to be balanced in your assessment of Bush. I enjoyed his anti-Israeli-
settlement position, which was brave and unusual for a US President -
 to side with the more liberal Israelis against taking land from the
inhabitants of the West Bank. It seems to me that the last thing the
Israelis need is deep enmity on the part of those who will overwhelm
them with numbers in the end. Too bad Bush backed off that position,
so no hope of peace there.

From: stgault@...

 I enclose herewith an interesting post received earlier today that may (or may not) have some relevancy to this discussion.

Steve

The Temple Mount Bombers

Uri Avnery 18.9.04

http://www.gush-shalom.org/archives/article322.html

The Security Service is haunted by a terrible fear:
that another Israeli Prime Minister will be
assassinated. The extreme right-wing, which does not
hide its admiration for Yigal Amir and his deed,
harbors some who dream of a similar action. After all,
if Amir succeeded in murdering the Oslo process, why
shouldn't another Amir succeed in murdering the process
of dismantling the settlements in the Gaza Strip?    
But the Security Service also entertains an even
greater fear: that a Jewish terror group will bomb the
mosques on the Temple Mount.     
   
Years ago, a Jewish underground organization was
preparing to do exactly that. It was uncovered before
it could carry out its plans. Now similar plots are
afoot.     
    
The Security Service believes that this action is
intended to put an end to Ariel Sharon's disengagement
plan. Bombing the al-Aqsa Mosque and/or the Dome of the
Rock would inflame the whole Arab and Muslim world. It
would cause profound upheavals, bring down Arab
regimes, perhaps ignite a fundamentalist revolution
throughout the region. In such a situation, who would
think about evacuating settlements?     

All this is true, but it does not touch the roots of
the conspiracy. The bombing of the Haram al-Sharif
mosques is an enterprise that goes well beyond topical
issues - it is a revolutionary act that would change
the Jewish religion itself. From the point of view of
the potential bombers, that is the main thing.      

In Israel, Jewish history is divided into three
"houses", meaning three temples: The First Temple was
supposedly built by King Solomon in the tenth century
BC and destroyed by the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar
in the year 568 BC. The people of Judea were taken as
captives to Babylon and about 50 years passed before
they were allowed to return to Jerusalem and build the
temple again.     
   
The building of the Second Temple was finished in 516
BC. It was renovated and expanded by King Herod around
20 BC and destroyed by the Roman general Titus in 70
AC.     

The Third Temple does not exist, but the new Jewish

community that started to establish itself in Palestine
in 1882 often calls itself the "Third House". (When
Moshe Dayan became hysterical at the beginning of the
Yom Kippur war, he started lamenting the "Destruction
of the Third House"). But this is only a symbolic term
- not one of the Zionist movement's Founding Fathers
nor any of the founders of the State of Israel, dreamed
of building a new temple.     
    
The reason for this is rooted in the events of 1934
years ago. When the Romans besieged Jerusalem, before
the town fell and was destroyed, a leading rabbi,
Yokhanan Ben-Zakkai, was smuggled out in a coffin. He
approached the Roman commander and succeeded in getting
permission from him to establish a Jewish religious
center in Yavneh, between Jaffa and Asdod.     

That was the beginning of a revolution in the Jewish
religion.      

"The First House" was a rather insignificant edifice.
Contrary to the Bible, there is no historical evidence
whatsoever that the empire of David and Solomon ever
existed. Jerusalem was a mere hamlet, Judea a
negligible entity. The Jewish religion as we know it
came into being only in the Babylonian exile, and since
then two thirds of the Jews (as they have been called
since then) lived outside of Palestine.      
   
The "Second House", too, began as a rather
insignificant affair, as attested by a contemporary
prophet, but it spread in the course of time. King
Herod, a great builder, tried to win the hearts of his
detractors by converting the Temple into a magnificent
structure.     
     
Even before that, a priestly aristocracy had sprung up
around the Temple and established its position in the
Jewish community of Judea. Its political expression was
the Sadducee party. Against it an opposition party, the
Pharisees, was formed. They allowed for a much wider
interpretation of the holy scriptures and believed in
another world. At the time of this struggle, Jewish
religious creativity flourished and the Bible was
written. Since the priestly establishment was in power,
the Temple plays a central role in the Bible. The
ritual sacrifice of animals accompanied other practices
connected with the Temple, the symbolic habitation of
the Almighty.      Jesus, a Jewish revolutionary,
rebelled against the commercialization of the Temple,
as did many of the Pharisees. The Hasmonean dynasty,
which was based on the priestly aristocracy, considered
the Pharisees its enemies and executed many of them.
    
All this changed when the Temple was destroyed. The
structure disappeared, together with the cult of
sacrifices. The Jerusalemite aristocracy was
eliminated, the priests lost everything. The Jewish
religion changed course.

>From then on, the rabbis, successors of the Pharisees,
were dominant in the Jewish community and its religion.
Long before the destruction of the Second Temple, the
great majority of Jews lived outside Palestine. After
the destruction (and the futile Bar-Kokhba rebellion of
135 AC), the Jewish community in Palestine dwindled.
Jerusalem became a dream, and all significant events in
the development of the Jewish religion occurred far
away from there.     

After the destruction of the temple, the Jewish
religion became a matter of laws and commandments
unconnected with any particular territory. The Land of
Israel and Jerusalem became more symbols than a
territorial reality. Judaism did not even demand that
its believers make a pilgrimage to Jerusalem, as Islam
requires its believers to travel to Mecca at least once
in their life.     

Until the advent of modern Zionism, Jews never once
tried to return en masse to Palestine - indeed, this
was explicitly forbidden by their religion. When half a
million Jews were expelled from Catholic Spain in 1492,
they dispersed throughout the Muslim Ottoman Empire,
but only a few went to Palestine which, too, was an
Ottoman province. Napoleon's call to the Jews to set up
a Jewish State in Palestine fell on deaf ears. The
first proponents of the modern Zionist idea, long
before the appearance of Theodor Herzl, were Englishmen
and Americans motivated by Christian religious

impulses.     
 
During the last few centuries, European-American Judaism
became more and more a religion imbued with a universal
moral message. Jewish thinkers believed that it was the
"mission" of the Jews to bring universal ethics to the
nations of the world, seeing that as the real substance
of Judaism.      Zionism came into being as a part of
the nationalist revolution in Europe and as a reaction
to its generally anti-Semitic character. It originated
the theory that the Jews are a nation like other
European nations, and that this nation must set up its
own state in the country now called Palestine. Not by
accident did the teachings of Herzl arouse the violent
and vocal opposition of almost all the great rabbis of
his time, whether Hassidim or their opponents the
Mitnagdim, whether orthodox or reformist.     

But when the Zionist community in Palestine established
a state, something happened to Judaism there. The connection
with the territory, the soil, changed the face of the
religion, as it did to all other parts of national
life. It is no exaggeration to claim that the Jewish
religion in Israel underwent a mutation, which has
become more and more extreme in recent years.      A
religion with a universal message became a tribal cult.
A religion of ethics became a religion of holy places.
Yeshayahu Leibowitz, a Jew of the old kind, defined the
religion of the settlers as a pagan, idolatory cult.
   
The new cult of the temple is the climax of this
process. The practical preparations for the destruction
of the mosques and the restoration of the temple,
together with animal sacrifices and other temple cults,
constitute a break with the last two thousand years of
Jewish religion. It is a religious revolution of
historic dimensions.     

If this tendency becomes dominant in the State of
Israel, it will not, I believe, lead to the building of
the Third Temple but to the destruction of the "Third
House". The Second Temple, together with the Jewish
people in this country, came to a violent end because a
small minority of fanatical Zealots, who were very
similar to today's extremist settlers, came to power in
the Jewish community and dragged it into a mad,

hopeless war. That can happen again.     
      

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Sukoi

 Yesterday, 05:57 PM

Hey Senator Kerry, are you or anyone on your staff aware that PROHIBITION DOES NOT, NEVER HAS AND NEVER WILL WORK???

And are you or anyone on your staff aware that CANNABIS CAN INHIBIT, PREVENT AND EVEN KILL CANCER???
QUOTE
Outside View: Your Brain on Pot

Washington, DC -- Clinical research touted by the journal of the American Association for Cancer Research that shows marijuana's components can inhibit the growth of cancerous brain tumors is the latest in a long line of studies demonstrating the drug's potential as an anti-cancer agent.
Not familiar with it? You're not alone.

Despite the value of these studies, both in terms of the treatment of life-threatening illnesses and as items of news -- the latest being that performed by researchers at Madrid's Complutense University that found cannabis restricts the blood supply to Gliobastoma multiforme tumors, an aggressive brain tumor that kills some 7,000 people in the United States per year -- U.S. media coverage of them has been almost non-existent.

Why the blackout? For starters, all of these medical cannabis studies were conducted overseas. Secondly, not one of them has been acknowledged by the U.S. government.

This wasn't always the case. In fact, the first experiment documenting pot's anti-tumor effects took place in 1974 at the Medical College of Virginia at the behest of the U.S. government. The results of that study, reported in an Aug. 18, 1974, Washington Post newspaper feature, were that marijuana's psychoactive component "THC slowed the growth of lung cancers, breast cancers and a virus-induced leukemia in laboratory mice, and prolonged their lives by as much as 36 percent."

Despite these favorable preliminary findings, U.S. government officials banished the study, and refused to fund any follow up research until conducting a similar -- though secret -- clinical trial in the mid-1990s. That study, conducted by the U.S. National Toxicology Program to the tune of $2 million concluded that mice and rats administered high doses of THC over long periods had greater protection against malignant tumors than untreated controls.

However, rather than publicize their findings, government researchers shelved the results, which only became public after a draft copy of its findings were leaked in 1997 to a medical journal which in turn forwarded the story to the national media.

However, in the eight years since the completion of the National Toxicology trial, the U.S. government has yet to fund a single additional study examining the drug's potential anti-cancer properties. Is this a case of federal bureaucrats putting politics over the health and safety of patients? You be the judge.

Fortunately, scientists overseas have generously picked up where U.S. researchers so abruptly left off. In 1998, a research team at Complutense's Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology discovered that THC can selectively induce program cell death in brain tumor cells without negatively impacting the surrounding healthy cells. Then in 2000, they reported in the journal Nature Medicine that injections of synthetic THC eradicated malignant gliomas (brain tumors) in one-third of treated rats, and prolonged life in another third by six weeks.

Last year, researchers at the University of Milan in Naples, Italy, reported in the Journal of Pharmacology and Experimental Therapeutics that non-psychoactive compounds in marijuana inhibited the growth of glioma cells in a dose dependent manner, and selectively targeted and killed malignant cells through a process known as apoptosis.

And finally, this month, researchers reported that marijuana's constituents inhibited the spread of brain cancer in human tumor biopsies from patients who had failed standard cancer therapies.

 Nevertheless, federal officials in this country have refused to express any interest in funding -- or even acknowledging -- this clinical research. By doing so, they are doing a disservice not only to the scientific process, but also to the health and well being of America's citizenry. Neither patients nor science deserve to be held hostage in America's drug war, and it's time for the federal government to cease trampling on both.

Paul Armentano is the senior policy analyst for the NORML Foundation in Washington. -- http://www.norml.org/
Newshawk: Paul Armentano
Source: United Press International
Author: Paul Armentano
Published: September 21, 2004
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http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread19489.shtml

Cannabis Hope for Brain Cancer
http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread19338.shtml
So what is so hard to figure out about this: do you want to help America and its' citizens and be a president who allowed a cure for cancer to happen, or do you want to keep waging war on American citizens and prevent that cure from happening (hmm, isn't that TREASON)?

Do you want our votes or not?

Please tell us because until you do, my vote will go to Rep. Michael Badnarik and you will lose many more to Ralph Nader!



Sukoi

 Yesterday, 07:26 PM

 

QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 24 2004, 07:12 PM)
Sukoi, Treason only applies to foreign nationals and normal citizens. Polititions don't fall into that catagory, "we'er just fighting the influx of drugs".  Anyhow, things are looking grim for Kerry/Edwards ticket. Attacking Bush on the terror/war subject is very....well you decide. Personaly I think he should stay with the economy, and health care, including MJ.

Treason has many definitions and you should look it up because ANY official who enforces a "law" (and I use that term lightly) against a citizen for

possession of cannabis is going against the constitution and is therefore committing a "treasonous" act! Please correct me if I'm wrong!

benmasel

 Yesterday, 10:32 PM

 

Marijuana Vote Rally: Madison WI Oct. 2nd

Assemble noon, UW Library Mall, 3:00 Parade to State Capitol.

Speakers include 3 members of City Council, 78th District Assembly Rep. Marc Pocan

(This event was formerly known as the Great Midwest Marijuana Harvest Festival.)

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From: Maryditton@...

Dear Howard,
     Just asked my neighbor to teach me how to cut and paste but she's busy right now so I'll have to do my best here.  I actually wrote to you based on a misunderstanding.  Let me explain:  Lee and Nick have been having this interesting existential debate and because I am not yet able to just paste it, I will take the liberty of summarizing it - Lee talks of entering the deepest part of his pain in order to find what he seeks and in so doing is embraced more and more by the healing eboga spirit, Nick is positing that the idea to feel pain in order to heal is a misconception. The thread was very very interesting if only that the 2 parties were so respectfully stating very different and in fact opposing points of view.

     This is where I got confused.  You (Howard) posted quoting Nick who states, "But there is a point where the mind does start to get that all it's doing in seeking healing is the same as all it's doing in seeking drugs - trying to move away from where it is."  You (Howard) write, "Very well put Nick.  The behavioral pattern of seeking healing.  Something to be aware of."
     Howard, this is where the mistake occured; I should have been writing to Nick who said it but I wrote to you saying, "Curious to know if you have any theories or insights on why we are always moving away from where the mind is."  You (Howard) replied, "How can we move away from the mind when it is us?  If you can be more specific I will also try to be more specific."
     In keeping with the comedy of errors it is Lee that responds to my question,  "Hi Mary, For what it's worth I believe the reason the mind goes off center is that unconfronted past issues carry pain and if we move to our center we become painfull.  Therefore we avoid it."

An anonymous contributor frome the ibogaine project writes, " Nothing can be owned because the individual sense of self is false - Joy and peace are by-products of realizing that mind really doesn't exist but is simply a stream of thoughts and feelings.  It is our birthright to enjoy identifying with a condition which is beyond time because it is really who we are."
      So Howard,  are you saying that mind is who we are?  And Nick, Curious to know if you have any theories or insights on why we are always moving away from where the mind is - I'd like to grasp your point of view. 
Many thanks,

Mary

  

From: nick227@...

Hi Mary,
 
OK, so it goes something like this...
 
...You never were born and you never will die. There is nothing that you have ever experienced, are experiencing now, or ever will experience that is not you. You are consciousness. This is existential truth.
 
However, after about 6 months of inhabiting the body, the belief arises that consciousness IS the body, along with thoughts and feelings. This belief in an identity smaller than everything is called the ego - a limited sense of self. This is relative truth.

So, to try and answer your question.....it is that the mind constantly seeks things to bolster its own sense of personal identity. It is driven to try and strengthen something which doesn't actually exist. It creates a vast fortress around something - a personal "I" - the existence of which it has never been bold enough to question. It keeps moving because it neither wants to rest and risk confronting its own nature nor let up in the struggle to reinforce itself. This isn't really a big deal, as the relative truth of egoic identity is just as valid as the existential truth of absolute identity. But, in times of transition for the ego, when there is a drive to further its own development, many questions as to what all this movement is about usefully arise and allow change to take place.

Hope this helps
 
with love
 
Nick

From: HSLotsof@...

Hi Mary,

What I am saying is that the mind and body are inseparable.  They are
manifestations of you.  Pharmacologists would most likely consider the entire dialog
as irrelevant and say we should follow the neuromolecular activity, everything

else being conjecture.  That being said, any belief system works in certain
contexts if you believe.  That is why different belief systems exist and
adherents swear to their validity.

Problems sometimes develop when belief systems are put at risk as indicated
in the post below.

In a message dated 9/20/04 8:37:02 AM, ibogaine@... writes:


>>I had a string of sessions of people who were staunch advocates of primal
>>therapy. Interestingly, all six people threw up constantly during
>>their time with ibogaine. It was as if they needed to, so as to help
>>break down the conceptual framework as to how they perceived the new

information

>>should come forth, i.e. the form it "should" be received. These were
>>one of the many times i so much appreciated ibogaine's uncanny capacity

>>to give people what is needed and not necessarily wanted. They were
>>secure in their belief that primal was the way, and ibogaine, with their
>>collaboration confused the shit out of them. A good portion of their
>>process had to do with the why's and how's they managed to created
>>a false sense of self around defining themselves as "primal screamers"
>>The ego can ride any horse and this includes ibogaine.


I cannot verify the reality of what is said and just present it as an example.

Howard

From: myeboga@...

Mary,
      Thanks so very much for the book recommendation. I am always starved of a really good book reference. Which is probably why I dont read too many.
      The whole question of the sound in an ibogaine session is only something that recently I have started to think about as I was primarily focussed on my healing and understanding the journey. I think I need to read your book in order to come up with the questions and then hopfully get the answers.
      There clearly is a connection in healing between the two and maybe its to do with tuning the mind onto the spirit level.

      Howard gave out a reference on a paper related to music used among the bwiti: Polyrhythms Supporting a Pharmacotherapy - Contains Bwiti MP3 files: www.musictherapyworld.de/modules/mmmagazine/showarticle.php?articletoshow=63&language=en
you might find that interesting. I am afraid I have not read it yet.
      However I imagine there is a difference between the presence of sound in a session and the use of mantras to stimulate the chakras as that is a form of spiritual alignment - a spiritual practise. The other is more a taste of the energy of Eboga - an awareness of its spirit.
     Just a few random thoughts.
     BTW I think defining our bliss is an interesting idea you brought up. I believe that at a soul level we know exactly what our bliss is and identifying it is really a process of coming home to our true self.
     Nice to hear from you.
     Stay cool.
     Lee

Maryditton@... wrote:

    Dear Lee,
         The following is from a book called Healing Mantras by Thomas Ashley-Farrand:  Mantra allows the chakras to "switch on" safely and to operate at a higher "wattage".  When we practise Sanskrit mantra, we increase the ability of the chakras to hold a spiritual charge.  It is as if a 25-watt bulb becomes able to hold 50 watts, then 100 watts, 500 watts, 1000 watts.  Mantras' power derives not from any particular meaning that their syllables convey, but from the vibrational effect they create when they are pronounced repeatedly.  And as the mala (108 beads) relates to the rosary(54 beads) - multiply by 2.

         I really think you would enjoy this book.  On page 29 the author talks of the anthropologist, Colin Turnbull ,who spent 2 years with the Mbuti Pygmies whose principle method of healing is chanting to the forest.  Turnbull's book is Wayward Servants.  I haven't read it yet.
         So Lee, I've posed this question before to the forum with no reply; I'd really like to know your opinion or the opinion of anyone on the forum who is an ibonaut about whether the sound that accompanies the eboga journey has a connection to all this mantra stuff from India and Africa and all the other cultures that use sound healing.  A penny for your thoughts.

    Good on you,

    Mary

From: myeboga@...

Hi there,
 
I hope nobody minds if I put forward an observation on ibogaine use. If I piss someone off for posting so much on these things please try and ignore and move on to the posts that do interest you. I just feel its important to get some more information out to put some things into perspectiv that I have already posted.
 
Taking into account the dangers associated with ibogaine use I would suggest for anyone considering using ibogaine for purely psycho spiritual use (who satisfies the safety protocol) and not for addiction interruption to begin at low doses.
 
The advantages I see in this are:
 
1. The body in my view acclimatises to the presence of ibogaine. Hence the repeated use at low doses allows the body to adjust to its presence and not go into major reaction when a large dose is introduced.
 
2. One gets a proper feel for ones one dose level if one considers undergoing a full session.
 
3. Low dose sessions can begin the ground work of cleansing the mind of a lot of garbage by releasing a lot of repressed material due to the tendency to repress thoughts, memories which in our daily life threaten us. Eg. when we see someone behave in a way that reveals their character in a way that reminds us of something that occured in the past we want to forget, we block out what we are seeing. A low dose session can open up that blockage
 
4. We can get some guidance/insight.
 
5. The safety factor is enhanced. I would not go for a dose greater than 6mg/Kg - perhaps a little less.
 
However some form of minimal interference guidance & support in the initial use is a good thing. It should never be taken alone.
 
By the way there is an interesting book which covers the area of low dose ibogaine therapy and its readable online:
 
The Secret Chief
 
Conversations with a pioneer of the underground psychedelic therapy movement

By Myron Stolaroff
http://www.maps.org/secretchief/sctoc.html
 
All the best to everyone.
 
Lee

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http://www.corporatism.netfirms.com/mmmall.htm  This page just created! Please forward and distribute widely.

348 MMM cities worldwide since 1999!
 

MMM. All cities 1999 to date. Million Marijuana March. Global Cannabis Liberation in May. Worldwide since 1999. Cannabis events on the first Saturday in May, or that weekend, or thereabouts. Marches, meetings, rallies, raves, concerts, festivals, etc..

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The detailed MMM 2005 city list at the end of the above
forwarded email has been deleted since it has some private
postal info, etc. in [brackets].
Go to cures-not-wars.org (eventually) for a detailed
MMM 2005 city list for May 7, 2005! Cannabis Liberation Day!
http://www.cures-not-wars.org - Million Marijuana March.
MMM webform for adding or updating MMM cities worldwide:
http://corporatism.tripod.com/webform.htm
A basic MMM 2005 city list with links:
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Dana Beal's MMM email compilations are archived here:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/mmmworld
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