Dana Beal <dana@...> wrote:
From: Dana Beal
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 12:49:59 -0400
Subject: [mayday] MMM 2004 #38: Fax Zap Kerry HQ Monday;
Moscow, Burlington, Albany, Asheville Make 22 Cities
Confirmed for MMM 2005
Important: get your city on the list for May 7, 2005!So far we have confirmed 18 [22 actually] cities:AlbanyAthensAshevilleBurlingtonChristchurchCincinnatiDetroitDublinEugeneMontrealMoscowNew YorkNimbinParisPhiladelphiaPhoenixRaleighSpokaneSt. LouisTorontoTucsonWashington, D.C.There is also some international MMM networking going on at
this CannabisCulture.com message forum:*****!!!Cannabis Liberation Day--Mayday Weekend 2004: Updates, Reports!!!*****alena@... wrote:From: alena@...
To: eco man
Subject: Re: Cures-not-wars.org MMM city list for May 7, 2005 events. Cannabis
globally.
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 00:05:21 +0400
Sorry? I'm need in the Moscow we have MMM also.. ve be at 4 or 7 may.. Sorry
my english, but I think you understand me.
Alena,
yours sincerely.---------From: dennylane@...Hi Dana. I'll continue the tradition and sponsor and organize the MMM in Burlington again for next year. Please delete any other names from the Burlington MMM as they don't contribute or do anything. My contact info is as follows:
Denny Lane
P.O. Box 537
Waitsfield, Vt.05673
802-4962387
dennylane@...
Got a new webpage for the latest organization I started called the Vermont Cannabis Coalition. The site is:
www.VtCannabisCoalition.org
note there is no . after Vt
Have been offline since Mayday til last week and had all 6,000+emails deleted, so if you sent me something and I didn't reply that's the reason
Best wishes, Denny
http://StoptheDrugWar.org
http://VermontRepublic.org
http://MPP.org
www.VtCannabisCoalition.org
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---------------From: mmackenzie2@...dear dana
someone or two or three stole my car twosday nite whilst i slept and
tonite i find out my 30 year old married nephew with two small sons was
terminated from his software marketing job because of a mobile random
drug testing company that came to his firm, had them pee in the public
restroom in the office building, then a lady with rubber gloves on picks
up each one sticking her thumb in every pee cup and wow!! pow!! instant
postive test results
HOW fucked up is this????
i am way angry
hell, that's why i began my own company
i cannot, not will i work for any unamerican company that resorts to that
kind of intrusive behavior--
one is fired for lack of performance, not a "sure as hell a false
positive" piss test -- four other people were thrown out too -- and my
nephew looks at me and says, "and they knew my whole family, aubra and
the children. . . ."
and i say fuck em all just like the NYC po leece does
and who in their right mind would steal a 15 year old buick with 198
thousand miles, and the following bumperstickers on it -- I DID PARK
BACKWARDS IN MY CARPORT SO THEY MAYBE MISSED THE STICKERS???????????
how the hell could anyone miss those?
dana,
i get tired and angry then i fill er up and partake and start over
land of the relentlessly persecuted
america the punisherMary Mackenzie, BFA
Director, AZ4NORML
State Director, WONPR
CoOperator, Tucson Hemp Clinic
3400 East Speedway Boulevard
Suite 118, Tucson, AZ 85716
520.323.2947
www.azhemp.org
please see our newly acqired interactive website and join up and input
doctors and lawyers, if you would be so kind so our directory can fill up
soon or just send me the names and i'll have it done from this end
i thank you in advance again
i believe only california is in the data base at the moment
so glad to hear brian is on his way OUT of prison-----------From: YesOn66@...[Please forward this email to all your contacts.]
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
August 6, 2004
For more information contact:
Sam H. Clauder II, Political Director, "Yes On 66" Committee
8-66-4-2-VOTE-66, (951) 653-3500
YesOn66@...
Terence Hallinan to Co-Chair "Yes On 66" Campaign
San Francisco
San Francisco County District Attorney Terence Hallinan has been named Northern California co-chair for the "Yes On 66" campaign to support the three-strikes initiative on the November ballot.
Proposition 66 will amend the three-strikes law to apply only to violent felonies. It will also provide for the re-sentencing of thousands of non-violent offenders now serving strike-enhanced sentences for petty crimes which could save the state more than $750 million a year in prison maintenance costs, and more than $1 billion in new prison construction.
"Prop 66 is tough on crime, makes the original law work better, and lives up to the original intent of the voters," Hallinan said. "The three-strikes law has taken thousands of violent criminals off the streets, but at the same time it has filled up our jails with non-violent offenders."
"Since the three-strikes law has been in effect, among the 12 largest counties in the state, my county used the law less than any other and still enjoyed the second best decrease in crime. That is absolute proof that the three-strikes law is not a deterrent to crime."
California is the only state in the nation whose three-strikes law applies the same sentences to petty criminals that it does to rapists, robbers and murderers. Many other states with no three- strikes law at all have seen a greater decrease in violent and over-all crime than California has.
Terence Hallinan graduated from UC Berkeley in 1960 and the Hastings School of Law in 1964. He was admitted to the California Bar on January 3, 1967. He was elected to the San Francisco Board of Supervisors in 1988 and 1992.
Hallinan was elected District Attorney of the City and County of San Francisco in 1995 and re-elected in 1999. During his eight years in office he built America's most progressive District Attorney's office by focusing on tough prosecutions of violent criminals, creating alternatives to expensive incarceration for nonviolent offenders, and developing nationally recognized domestic violence and first-time offender programs.
Hallinan was widely praised for his hands-on involvement in the courtroom, tough administrative decisions, and significant improvements in the way the District Attorney's office fights violent crime in San Francisco. His 'get tough' approach was acclaimed for reducing violent felonies - murder, rape, and assault - by 40%. He won several high profile cases other DA's do not usually prosecute - among them the infamous "Dog Case," in which a San Francisco woman was mauled to death by a trained attack dog.
Hallinan is available for interviews and more information at (415) 241-7353.
The "Yes On 66" Committee is available by calling 8-66-4-2-VOTE-66 or (866) 428-6836 and by e-mail at YesOn66@....
Contributions or correspondence may be addressed to 406 Orchid Avenue, #1032, Newport Beach, CA 92625.
The title & summary, legislative analysis, ballot arguments, and text of Proposition 66 are on the web at http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections/elections_bpd_1104.htm
--
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406 Orchid Avenue, #1032, Newport Beach, CA 92625
8-66-4-2-VOTE-66, (951) 653-3500YesOn66@...
-----------From: tents444@...There are still many cities missing from the MMM photo gallery:
http://www.vienna2004.org/mmm Million Marijuana March.
Please send me photos and I will post them there.
Send links to web pages with photos too.
Photos and links. 1999 to 2004 MMM.
Send any photos you have. Large or small.
Preferably uncompressed. Megabytes are fine!
The photo gallery offers the photos in various sizes.
From thumbnails to mega full-size!
My Yahoo Mail account can handle all the photos you can send.
There are already many MMM photos and links in the gallery.
Check them out:
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eco man
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/081404Z.shtml-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------Join the Kerry Drug War Thread: http://forum.johnkerry.com/index.php?showtopic=11770&hl=illicit+drugs+terrorismALSO, Check out the Marijuana Decrim Thread:http://forum.johnkerry.com/index.php?showtopic=30196&st=180From: carl-olsen@...Subject: RE: New fax zap mondayI worked for Madhu when she was on the Iowa Governor's staff. Small world.CarlFrom: Dana Beal [mailto:dana@...]
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Subject: New fax zap monday
Okay folks: our last fax zap brought us to the attention of Christin Sewell, who works for the health policy advisor of the Kerry campaign, Madhu Chugh. They huddled, and as per my suggestion on the Kerry internet town meeting website, brought in some one with FDA expertise--Paul Kim (who has also worked for Matilda Krim at AMfar (AIDS Research Foundation). Check him out at http://www.fhe.com/attorney.asp?aID=000321102201 .
Anyway, Monday we do a new email and fax zap to Christin Sewell at Kerry HQ (fax: 202-712-3001 phone: 202-589-3973 email: csewell@..., mchugh@..., jlong@...) and Paul Kim at FoleyHoag (fax: 202-785-6687 phone: 202-263-7360 email: pkim@...). The following is the text of the letter we're asking you to send Monday morning. If you cannot fax it, email is fine. Please just send me a copy of the text with yr modifications personalizing the beginning and the end:
{My name is XXXXX and I'm writing you on behalf of the YYYYY organization.] or
[My name is XXXXXX and in 2000 I voted for Ralph Nader. This year I'm voting for John Kerry.]
We were referred to you by Christin Sewell at Kerry Headquarters, who works for Madhu Chugh, in response to our query about whether the "increased treatment" for drug dependency in the Democratic platform referred mostly to treatments already in the SAMSHA pipeline, or whether it represented a truly science-based commitment to explore research into more promising approaches that could transform the way our society deals with its drug problem.
Last month our affiliates faxed Kerry headquarters from Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, Michigan, Minneapolis, Iowa, Missouri, Arkansas, Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, Oregon and Washington--all key battlefield states--about the first generation of broad-spectrum addiction interrupters, derived from the African rainforest iboga plant.
IN 1993, under Curtis Wright, the FDA approved a phase I trial of ibogaine for treatment of cocaine addiction. But in 1996 NIDA opted not to pursue it because their rather limited research budget was committed to more conventional projects like buprenex, even though these were only incremental improvements on existing medications, and there is currently NOTHING effective available for crack or crystal meth addiction. Recently, though, the New York State Office of Alcohol and Substance Abuse Services (OASAS) put up its own webpage touting the semi-synthetic 18 MC, invented by Stanley Glick (a regular recipient of NIDA research grants) at Albany Medical College. 18 Methoxycoronaridine has none of the objectionable side-effects of natural Ibogaine, is NOT scheduled, and is twice as effective for nicotine (and potentially stimulant) addiction.
http://www.oasas.state.ny.us/AdMed/meds/fyiibogaine.htm
During the Wisconsin primary, when Theresa Heinz Kerry came back and asked for more literature on these medications, we were heartened--only to encounter a conventional wisdom among staffers that the only forms treatment that could be specified in the platform without losing votes to Bush were "mandatory drug courts and mandatory urine testing." (Neither one of which is treatment.)
While we can accept that advocating treatment, not prison, may seem like a tough sell in a campaign against "Dubya", people who are not familiar with our slice of the electorate just don't really understand how important replacement of imprisonment with non-coercive treatment is to our voters. The current platform language is making it really hard to generate the enthusiasm to go out and really stump for Kerry among the one or two per cent of the electorate who voted for Ralph Nader or Harry Brown in 2000 because of their strong public opposition to the Drug War.
In his latest column, Walter Cronkite wrote of the "half a million people...housed in federal and state prisons and local jails...by far the majority...guilty only of minor offenses... The cost to maintain this great horde...is more than $10 billion annually...
"Thousands of women, many of them mothers of young children, are included among those minor offenders. Those children left without motherly care are the most innocent victims of the drug war... Women are the fastest -growing segment of the U.S. prison system, with almost 80%of them incarcerated for drug offenses. The deep perversity of the system lies in the fact that women with the least culpability often get the harshest sentences. Unlike the guilty drug dealer, they often have no information to trade for a better deal from the prosecuters and might end up with a harsher sentence than the dealer gets."
We have to compare their fates to the 27 year old who until a week ago was on 110 milligrams of methadone AND daily heroin who came through here this morning completely clean, back from ibogaine treatment in Mexico because his family could afford to send him. (Did we mention ibogaine is banned in the U.S.--but legal almost everywhere else in the world, including Mexico and Canada?) Mark C. reports having absolutely no craving, and he GLOWED. He said his mother cried when she first saw him, because he hadn't looked like that since he was a young teenager.
What is needed with a breakthrough treatment like this is the kind of bold White House initiative Richard Nixon displayed in implementing methadone maintenance over the objections of the nay-sayers and "not invented here" cadres of established bureaucracy.
What we need for this election is a fig leaf--something--we can take back to our people to get them to vote for Kerry enthusiastically, not just grudgingly, so that all their friends turn out and vote for him as well. We need more than the wink and nudge routine we got from Clinton. ACT UP at least got Clinton to endorse needle exchange in October of 1992--and that made a difference later. It doesn't have to be a formal campaign statement to the press specifying 18 MC. A visit by Theresa or Chris Heinz to Glick's lab in Albany, accompanied by some boilerplate about the importance of scientific research into new treatments for drug dependency, would work wonders with our networks in Florida, for instance.
If you can come out for stem-cell research, you can come out for the next generation of drugs to treat addiction, and turn the promise of treatment on demand into reality. Help us get the more than one million people, who voted for Nader because he was for a progressive drug policy, to vote for John Kerry.
Yours Respectfully,
Dana Beal, co-author, THE IBOGAINE STORYPS: It is worth noting that these alkaloids may have application for other forms of obsessive/compulsive disorder; that ibogaine has also been patented by Olney for interruption of stroke and ischemia; that there are extensive case histories of it clearing the body of tumours and cysts (an ibogaine moiety is part of vincristine and vinblastine); and that it shows promise in potentiating TB drugs in cases of drug-resistant TB.****!!!IBOGAINE TREATMENT NOW $1500 IN HOLLAND--CALL SARA, 0113134-624-1770 !!!****From: dave@...> it is not uncommon for rather straight alcoholics to be
> threatened by ibogaine. It threatens their world view. And that is very
> frightening.Amen to that, brother.
_.dhFrom: ptpeet@...According to someone I know, he said that "At 140 pounds, you are 64
kilograms, probably lighter now since the session. We gave you two and a
half milligrams per kilogram which is 160 milligrams as a test dose. Then,
again 40-45 minutes later, you received 896 milligrams of ibogaine, not even
quite a gram, which equates to 14 more milligrams per kilogram per body
weight for a total of 16 and a half. Then down the road we finally managed
to give you a booster then yet another, both 3 milligrams per kilogram of
192 each. So you got 160, 896, plus 896, plus 192 plus 192, equals to 22 and
a half of milligrams per kilogram of ibogaine. 64 times 22 and a half is how
much ibogaine hydrocloride you received."
22.5 milligrams per kilogram
AT
64 kilograms body weight
=
1440 kilograms total.
Hope this clear up anyone else's confusion as it has mine.
Peace and love, and oh yeah, some more tidbits to chew on, for those who
might be interested. Everyone else, that ol' delete button will work just
finely.
I'm still seeing incredibly vivid, multicolored trails, off of everything,
even those things which really, really are not moving but still leaving
great trails anyway.
Marc C came by today to visit, we went across the street and sat on the
benches in the playground watching trails and gathering clouds. I tried to
walk him to the train, but seeing how difficult walking down the 5 floors to
the ground level from my apartement I decided across the street from MARS
BAR (hey Patrick, a blast from the recent past eh? It's the SAME as ALWAYS.
LOL) was far enough, said aduie and returned to fall to the bed- only to
discover that SLEEP wasn't going to be happening, and here it is at 2:18 and
darn it sleep STILL isn't happening. But it's cool, I feel manic, so why not
go with it.
I definitely hit that "glow" state this evening, whereas this morning
was the first time able to even make it out the apartment, much less down a
couple blocks.
But then I came home and began eating. FIrst a piece of toast. Then two
pieces of French toast. Then a banana. Then a grillled turkey and cheese
sandwhich.
THen I coasted, still fucking unable to sleep, but growing less
irritable and more "gee, I'm feeling pretty peachy for having on Saturday
crushing and swallowing 8 or 9 ms-contin 30s, right up to 12:30 Sunday
morning and having managed only 2 all day today, one at 8AM and one at 5 PM-
yesterday now I realize.
So after coasting, and helping V get through one of those "holy shit I
was on set for 12 hours today and half to do it again tomorrow at 5AMM rant
spells, we got dressed and went and stuffed our faces with at one of her
good friend's birthday parties at this aMAzing chiese resturant, and well,
one of the people eating with us is a director for some hotshot agency here
in Manhattan, and another, the boyfriend of V's friend owns a bar where I
can throw the release party for Under the Influence- The Disinformation
Guide to Drugs, that book I keep saying over and over how I've just finishedediting (it went to the printers last Monday btw, if I didn't mention that.
So everyone else drank two two HUGE bottles of sake, while I sat there
eating and glowing and laughing and not hurting too bad (one ms-contin and
my back has this nifty pillow in it between me and my pain) and I' wasn't
not at all feeling dopy or much, much worse, dope sick, just tripping nicley
and calming, as though on mushrooms or something. The BEST part was TELLING
everyone at the table about how I'd just spent the weekend flat on my back
unable to walk thanks to this African root stuff for my pain pills habits.
And they were all fascinated.
LOLOLOL!
Howard you are right in that my provider and the others helping were all
very brave to allow me to take it. I was genuinely worried that when I
started listing my physical problems- which really aren't obvious when I'm
dressed but with my shirt off boy people can't help but stare and ask "what
the hell happened to you?!?!- but I didn't know what the hell I was going todo if they turned me down.
AND, you know what else? I spoke just a bit WAY too soon. I wanna go
again.
QUESTION- if someone had one booster still that they hadn't taken, but
were already taken very small and limited amounts of opiate pain killers,
would they have to again wait until even that small amount left their system
before eating the booster, or is it safe to eat it, say, oh, tomorrow?
SHould, um, someone, wait a while first? When should it be eaten?
IF I did wanna go again sometime sooner than later, how long would it be
feasible to wait?
That's still a pretty big if, but I feel so good NOW that hell, you were
all right, and sure you can remind me of my earlier scardicattedness.
What a lightweight wuss I am.
:-)))
Ok, now let's see if I can describe the ibogaine trip itself soon.
That's my next rantlike project.
At first there was the aforementioned in previous post about ear
keening, louder and louder. While that was just starting, I noticed that the
TURNED OFF light fixture on the ceiling suddenly had this weird silver
liquidish ring around it's rim, and I began to see what looked like water
inside the thing (I Had O-Rang playing softly, which is my very favorite
shroom music so I figured, rightly it turned out, that's what I wanted on
rather than the almost insisted on silence. LOL!) and it was looking like
the ceiling was starting to throb or bob a little.
Then I don't know what happened. I kinda feel asleep for a little bit.
But for some while, almost an hour, I was getting more and more bummed, and
kept having to get back up and go to pee in the bathroom. One sitter kept
getting worried I was gonna spew (never did, thanks Patrick and all for
spew-stopping advice) and the second of thrid time I came back into the
blanketed off and darkened room I sat down and smoked some of a cigarette.
Then as I lay down, I was off. The room was moving, I wasn't, or as little
as possible (though I did manage to LEAP out of bed in a fury at around 36
hours without opiates, when first waking out of the first round of massive
tripping out of my body/roiom/head/planet/into space at some vast freakin
distance from the sever opiate withdrawals I was suddenly being beaten to a
pulp by- I at that point was thinking how the ibogaine was somehow acting as
a skin between me and my withdrawals, making them for me, but at that point
the ibogaine had moved outside the withdrawing sking and was holding it
closer than ever to me and it SUCKED!- at "How DARE they wanna give me MORE
of that SHIT oh my GOD they've got a CAbinate fULL of Pills, why can't I
have my painkillers NOW!!! I don't wanna that shit in my any more
arghghghghgH!!!!" Without throwing up either.)
So anyway, once I was really taking off, I was seeing liquid metal
everywhere off everything, very similarly to how I'm still seeing things to
be honest.
I kept looking for a big silver screen to pop up, but one sitter had
made sure to tell me, in all innocence, "oh, yeah, one or two people have
said they didn't see any movies," which immediately made me thing, ":GReeat,that'll be ME of course" but as I've noted earlier elsewhere, they ain't
exactly movies. I was in them.l
I was seeing these huge cities was out in time and space somewhere, like
I said, with these three gods sleeping in these cryogenic type coffins or
boxes. And I was supposed to wake them, or someone was, to get them to
combine (wonder triplets powers activated?) togewther to save humanity,
whose time was ending if they couldn't bring forth this thing- what it was I
couldn't tell because it didn't make it all the way out before the end came,
and destroyed everything, including this beautiful cloud like, almost fetus
looking thing but not all icky, just pure white silver light- but this
darkness, this whole in space ate it all, these gods, all their peoples, and
me.
(Oh, and btw, The Cure's Pornography is one hell of an awesome CD to
listen to in this condition, as I'm doing now.)
Then as I think I've mentioned, I was in the warzone in Iraq, and I just
can't understand how those people are surviving sane in that condition. Whatin the hell must they be suffering through day after day, going out to KILL
each other every single freakin' day
I read something of Patrick's recently that mentioned face first into a
meat grinder, and that's what I kept seeing, only with machine guns, and
other armaments, and just sheer fear and terror and despair, becauise NO ONE
WOULD STOP! Even knowing that it isn't helping, and isn't solving anything,
only creating more death and fear and despair, well, it wasn't pretty. But
it was FASCINATING. AMAZING. I Love Tripping a LOT, and always have, and
have done one hell of a lot of drugs-
which reminds me, and I'm glad I remembered this- early on it reminded me
VEry much of salvia divinorum. ANd I mean a LOT. The same weird keening
sound but not nearly as loud on Salvia, and that feeling of a presense just
up and to my right, or was it left? One of those directions. Salvia is MUICH
less strong, but still, there were some similartities, especially thinking
of the last time I tried salvia- which lol gives me an idea. Wonder how it'd
mix with my current state?
It isn't NOT illegal yet is it?
I don't Think so, but is it? Actually, didn't they recently schedule the
stuff, those fuckers!
I really don't like prohibitionists.
The only really, really bad part was, besides having to sit on the side
of the bed and piss huge amounts of weird colored pee that just wouldn't
stop coming for hours...wellll, a few minutes but still... was that waking
up at the 24 hour into the trip part, where all I wanted was some fucking
dope/painkillers/OPIATES.
That part was fucking hell. But I've been hearing lately that many
people seem to be angry at that point in the experience, not usually
entirely happy, But I've only been hearing that recently, and granted from a
select set of folk too.
Ok, I'm sending this out unedited or reread, pure outta my skull and
onto the pag...errr, screen thing.
Have a nice day all. Happy..Thursday? I keep screwing up the days,
thinking today was already thursday and we should now be on Friday- but
that's not right, so never mind me, and heck, still have a good day whatever
day it turns out to be.
Peace and love AGAIN,
L:OL
Preston
From: HSLotsof@...In a message dated 8/12/04 2:16:38 AM, ptpeet@... writes:
>> QUESTION- if someone had one booster still that they hadn't taken,
>>but were already taken very small and limited amounts of opiate pain killers,
>>would they have to again wait until even that small amount left their system
>>before eating the booster, or is it safe to eat it, say, oh, tomorrow?
>>SHould, um, someone, wait a while first? When should it be eaten?
>> IF I did wanna go again sometime sooner than later, how long would
>>it be feasible to wait?
>>
>> That's still a pretty big if, but I feel so good NOW that hell, you
>>were all right, and sure you can remind me of my earlier scardicattedness.
>> What a lightweight wuss I am.
Preston,
You are a Banzie and an experienced drug experimenter/author. That placesyou in a knowledgeable position. I would, before gaining broader experience,
stick to the general ibogaine protocol, take ibogaine instead of your morning
dose of opiates/wake-up. Then the question becomes "booster" or anther dose.
The same capsule/dose of ibogaine can be used for either. Have you moved your
bowels yet? Do you want to potentiate your current state or do you want to wait
7 to 10 days to get most of the ibog/noribo out of your system and then
redose or not. Also how much ibo/etc. you have on board may be very specific to
the individual and your issues with large and small intestine may effect that or
not. Generally those trails are gone by day 7 at the latest. That may
indicate you are clearing iboga alkaloid metabolite or it may represent another
mechanism altogether. Many people don't see them after 48-72 hours, some even
sooner than that. With highly purified ibogaine they disappear faster than with
ibo containing various amounts of other iboga alkaloids. However, one must
always consider the individuality of the ibogaine experience.
One of the earliest observations in the modern ibogaine period (post 1950)
was Schneider's discovery that ibogaine potentiates opiate analgesia and
toxicity. You can go to Chris Jenks' wonderful collection of ibogaine documents
http://www.puzzlepiece.org/ibogaine/literature/iborefs.html and scroll down to
Schneider's patent and download a pdf of United States patent, (December 24,
1957), 2,817,623. Jenks has done a wonderful job of archiving ibogaine/iboga
alkaloid articles and mp3 files, http://www.puzzlepiece.org/ibogaine/ (click on
the CSAM folder).
Also read fernandez just for the fun of it
http://www.ibogaine.org/fernandez.html
HowardFrom: ptpeet@...
Kicking Drugs with Drugs-
Taking the Left Hand Path
By Preston Peet
For DrugWar.com
Posted August 12, 2004http://www.drugwar.com/pkickingdrugswithdrugs.shtmFrom: ptpeet@...http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:BOwNvvVoNFIJ:www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio%3Finkey%3D62-1932857001-0+%22Preston+Peet%22&hl=en
Sorry all, I realize the above is a really long link, but I just stumbled
across it and really, really wanted to share it. It's the first I've seen,
and I am waaay thrilled to put it mildly.
WOW what a great big smile I have now. I have had the best, I mean the very
freakin' best week so far and it's just getting better. (knock on wood
please.)
Peace and love,PrestonFrom: ptpeet@...HI all,
More thoughts.
I have suddenly rediscovered food. I was surving on instant oatmeal and
ice cream for ages it seemed like there at the end, particularly the last
couple weeks- that was literally all I was eating. Post-ibo I've still not
had any of the ice cream (with chocolate syrup of course) in my freezer.
Instead, last night while I'd initially planning on running a bath (this
morning actually, getting home from dancing very hard all night- with an
extremely bad back and leg- go figure) and eating some of that
aforementioned ice cream, I ate a whole package of cut up Cantalope.
This is something else. I've been tons of fruit, like never before, not
in years anyway. I have a disastor area of a mouth due to horrificly bad
teeth, which has made eating difficult for years, but, this week I've been
chowing down, or trying to anyway. It's still quite small amounts compared
to most people I suspect, but for me, it's a drastic sudden change.
The trails were still going strong last night, with all the taxis and
pedestrians all leaving long, very bright and colorful (rainbows I keep
thinking) trails behind as they pass me.
Anyway, just thought I'd add these extra observations of things that
seem to be resulting somehow from the ibo experience.
Fascinated almost covers my feelings about all this.And another very big thing for me-
Since taking the ibogaine, I've been unable, or at least unwilling to suject
myself to the television or the news. I turned it on once this week, just in
time to see that all of Iraq is in rebellion and how fucked up with we've
made that situation, then a story about how my hometown of Sarasota is aboutto be plowed under by a hurricane or two.
That was enough. CLICK, off went the boob toob, and off it's stayed. I
have been listening to music like I've not done is years, all sorts of
stuff, new stuff, old stuff, everything. I'm loving music again and I lovethat.And another very big thing for me-
Since taking the ibogaine, I've been unable, or at least unwilling to suject
myself to the television or the news. I turned it on once this week, just in
time to see that all of Iraq is in rebellion and how fucked up with we've
made that situation, then a story about how my hometown of Sarasota is about
to be plowed under by a hurricane or two.
That was enough. CLICK, off went the boob toob, and off it's stayed. I
have been listening to music like I've not done is years, all sorts of
stuff, new stuff, old stuff, everything. I'm loving music again and I love
that.
Peace,Preston--------
From: Schmoolyboy@...
The average Doc who does your ECG will have no idea what to look for to tell you whether it is okay for you to take IBO. All ECG's are not of the same quality. The doc who will administer the IBO must see the ECG and in the context of your specific case history and meds that you where on and are on ,will decide if you pass the "ECG test" . The importnat aspect, is the rate correvted QT interval , known as the QTc. Its all very complicated, but relates to drugs like IBO that are metabilized in the liver by an enyzme system known as Cytochrome P450 -2D6. These drugs prolong the QT interval on an ECG and can lead to a dangerous situation while under IBO know as Torsades. ( and that can kill you)
So for all of you who think this is all bullshit, well good luck to ya. It's really for the experts. Unfortunatly, most of the so called IBO experts have absolutly no idea of what this is about.
The risk of this happening is very low when compared to risks of continuing to shoot junk. Yet , in the hands of a trained expert who knows what to screen for, the risks can be reduced to almost zero.
Yata yata so now kill me cause you dont like what I have to say. Well it's just the truth. Check it out for yourself.
--------From: MCAGiraffe@...
5. China Begins Legalizing Methadone as Part of Effort To
Prevent HIV Transmission Among Injection Drug Users
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The Chinese government has begun progressively legalizing
methadone -- a synthetic narcotic drug often prescribed as a
substitute for heroin in the treatment of addiction -- in an
attempt to control injection drug use and HIV transmission, the
Knight Ridder/St. Paul Pioneer Press reports. At least half of
the estimated one million HIV cases in China are the result of
shared needles among injection drug users, according to
government statistics. Previously, the Chinese government sent
illegal drug users to hospitals, forced them to do hard labor or
publicly executed them. However, government officials have begun
instructing local and provincial governments to implement
needle-exchange and methadone programs as part of their health
policies. So far, in Southern China -- the "heart" of the
HIV/AIDS epidemic -- eight methadone programs have been
launched, according to the Knight Ridder/Pioneer Press. Yunnan
province -- which has one of the highest HIV prevalence rates
and one of the highest injection drug use rates in the country
-- plans to spend $48 million over seven years on HIV/AIDS
research, education, care and awareness programs. The province
-- where 90% of all HIV cases are attributable to shared needles
-- plans to spend an additional $23 million on methadone and
needle-exchange programs, according to Knight Ridder/Pioneer
Press.
Reaction
Zhang Changan, Yunnan's top AIDS official, said that the
HIV/AIDS epidemic is at a "very critical moment" in the
province. Zhang added, "We have to face it squarely ... and we
have to win this battle by every means possible." Advocates in
China say that the government's actions represent a
"breakthrough," according to the Knight Ridder/Pioneer Press. "Ibelieve this is an incredible step forward, from not accepting
the drug problem to accepting it and trying to fight it
practically," Li Jianhua, deputy director of a drug use
institute in Yunnan, said. Drew Thompson, an expert on China atthe Center for Strategic and International Studies, said, "It's
the most progressive law out there, and because it is the first
one, it becomes the model for other provinces." However, police
officer Yu Sheng recently wrote in the Beijing Review magazine
that offering clean needles or drug "substitutes" is like
"buying cigarettes for smokers." Yu added, "Drug users will
eventually fear nothing, which will bring more difficulties in
eliminating drug usage" (Knight Ridder/St. Paul Pioneer Press,
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