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Pubdate: Thu, 31 Oct 2002
Source: New Zealand Press Association (New Zealand Wire)
Copyright: 2002 New Zealand Press Association
Author: New Zealand Press Association
Webpage: http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2097514a6160,00.html

PETERS COMPLAINS ABOUT GREENS' 'POT CO-ORDINATOR'

New Zealand First has complained about the Green Party's use of taxpayer
money to employ a cannabis law reform co-ordinator.

However, Parliamentary Services, which administers MPs' budgets, said the
Green Party was entitled to use its out-of-Parliament budget in this way.

A spokeswoman for the service said that it was in fact a sensible use of
the money because the party was an issues-based party of list MPs rather
than constituency MPs.

The budget was used to support the work of MPs outside Parliament.

It was generally used by electorate MPs for offices and staff to answer
constituents' queries.

Parties such as ACT and the Greens made better use of the money by
employing people to handle issues, for instance by assessing attitudes to
research.

URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v02.n2031.a14.html
Webpage: http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2097514a6160,00.html

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High Honors to Cannabis Constipation Cure
Thu Oct 31, 9:04 AM ET

SEOUL (Reuters) - North Korea (news - web sites) has awarded high honors to
a herbal medicine for constipation with marijuana as an active ingredient,

the communist state's official news agency said on Thursday.

The concoction of rhubarb, cannabis sativa (marijuana) and elecampane "gives
no harmful effect to internal organs but activates their functions and
promotes digestion by dissolving bile well," the state-run Korean Central

News Agency (KCNA) said.

KCNA said the government had awarded a top science prize this year to the
medicine made by Pyongyang Hospital of Koryo Medicine after it "completely

cured" 97 percent of the thousands of constipated patients who tried it.

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From: Bob Newland <newland@...>
Reply-To: newland@...
X-Accept-Language: en
Subject: "Horror Story Contest" awards (So.Dak.)
Status:  

For Immediate Release

posted by Bob Newland
http://www.CommonSenseJustice.Us/


RAPID CITY (SD) 31 OCTOBER 2002 -- South Dakota's proposed
Constitutional Amendment "A" proponents announced the winners in their
"Courtroom Horror Story Contest" today. Larry Dodge and Bob Newland,
founders of "Common Sense Justice for South Dakotans", picked Rapid City
resident (and Rosebud Sioux Tribe member) Mia Goings as the person whose
story best represents the deficiencies in justice inherent in many South
Dakota criminal prosecutions.

After receiving over 70 entries in the "Horror Story Contest", Newland

and Dodge eliminated many (although all are still posted at
http://www.CommonSenseJustice.Us/contest/entries1.htm) which did not
meet the criteria for a winning entry, or which simply could not be
verified well enough, then spent many hours whittling away at the
remainder (about 50 of the 70-some entries).

"Most of these stories are heart-breakers," Newland said. "Granted, all
are probably not true, or, more properly, several probably do not
include ALL relevant information. However, a common theme (along with
several names of prosecutors and judges) is seen to develop -- corrupt
prosecutors, police, and judges; lazy, corrupt and/or inept defense
attorneys (especially public defenders); and a system which is like a
tar pit: once you're in it, you stay in it."

"It was not an easy task to pick the 'worst loser' in a game -- the
justice system -- structured to produce losers," Newland said somewhat
sarcastically. "Mia Goings, in spite of doing what she can to raise

three children as well as possible, is in the tar pit. One slip -- even
a harmless act of fate -- can cost Mia her family and her freedom, such
as her 'freedom' is under the terms of her current status within the
system. I was particularly intrigued by the public defender's remark
that there was 'nothing postive' in the record about Ms. Goings. How
does one get a 'positive' record in the system?"

Read Mia Goings story at

http://www.CommonSenseJustice.Us/index.html#worst

After picking the "winner", who will receive $2002.00, Dodge and
Newland, as per the contest rules, randomly selected two of the
remaining qualifying stories to each win $1001.00.

They are: Kimberly Terca of Presho, and Sharla Van Bockern of Sioux
Falls.  Terca, Entry 045 on the web site, relates a story about how a
completely non-violent family quarrel resulted in her father going to
jail for the first and only time in his life, and having his gun
collection confiscated for nearly a year, even though the incident did
not involve firearms on anyone’s part.  Van Bockern, in Entry 056,
explains how a police officer turned her innocent involvement in a

traffic jam into a legal nightmare.

Newland and Dodge decided that another dozen of the stories sent to them
deserved “honorable mentions” and prizes of $100 each.  “Even though
we’d planned to make only three awards, we just couldn’t let this
contest end without awarding something to these folks, too, because they
all had such awful stories to tell,” Dodge said.  “These additional
winners and their stories are all identified on our web site, and we
urge anyone interested, especially anyone who thinks ‘It can’t happen
here’, or that the system ‘ain’t broke’ to log
in and have a look.”

The "honorable mention" story authors and entry numbers are listed below.


002      Matthew Ducheneaux
003   Jen Stahl
006    Brenda Woodruff
013     Richard Crutchfield    
018     Danny Goodroad 
021     Gary Kaiser            
035     Michael Robinson
038     Thomas Pellegrino      
051     Steve Layton                   
053     Levi Flute             
063     James Hanna            
069     Fidel Arguello 
               


Newland and Dodge urge all South Dakotans to vote "Yes!" on Amendment A
next Tuesday. They also urge you to visit the web site --
http://www.CommonSenseJustice.Us/
and to contribute to their campaign to restore a bit of common sense to

the justice system in South Dakota.

"It's been a long, exhausting campaign," Newland said. "We started this

thing three years ago when we asked the first person to sign the
petition with the introductory question, 'Would you like to help improve
the criminal justice sytem in South Dakota?'"

"We've received help from hundreds of people, but we still have tapped
our personal funds to the point of non-existence. We can still use your
help, even though the election is only a few days away. Win or lose at
the polls, our work won't be done," Newland said.

"Personally, I'm not sure if I have enough gas money to drive to the
polling place," Newland smiled.

Common Sense Justice
426 E Fairmont Blvd, #9
Rapid City SD 57701

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From: "A. Reed Morrill" <libertyarm@...>
To: "Dana Beal" <dana@...>

Subject: Freedom Drive 2002:

Hey Dana --
Andy here (Utah)

Please help to get the following important information out asap:

Dennis Peron has agreed to lead the "Medical Marijuana Arm" of Freedom Drive
2002, which begins on the West Coast this next week and ends the following
week on Thursday, November 14th in Washington D.C.  www.givemeliberty.org/

Dana,
I wrote and produced the Freedom Drive 2002 theme-song. It is in the media
kit, but can be downloaded quickly by clicking here:
http://givemeliberty.org/FreedomDrive/FD-SONG.mp3
Sheriff Bill Masters and Sheriff Richard Mack are leading the 'End the
Drug-War' arm of the drive.

Important:
Utah Students for Sensible Drug Policy,  Utahns for Compassionate Use,  Utah
Marijuana Policy Foundation are some of the Utah coalitions involved in this
tremendous national effort.

Please help us get the word out to your list, Dana.

Freedom Drive 2002 is a great coalition of Constitutional Restorationists
with all constitutional issues included.  The unconstitutional 'War on
Drugs' will have thousands of protesters involved in the drive to Washington
D.C.

Media Kit: http://givemeliberty.org/FreedomDrive/FreedomDriveMediaKit.PDF

Thanks for your attention to this vital movement.

Andy (In Utah)

P.S.
Following the drive to Washington, I plan to visit the East Coast in my van
for a couple of weeks to wait for my son, Andrew, in New York.  Then, we
will return to Utah in the first week of December. At that time, I would
like to look you up.  My 18 -year old son, Austin, will be travelling with

me.

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Pubdate: Thu, 31 Oct 2002
Source: Reno News & Review (NV)
Copyright: 2002, Chico Community Publishing, Inc.
Contact: renoletters@...
Website: http://www.newsreview.com/issues/reno/
Details: http://www.mapinc.org/media/2524
Author: Dennis Myers
Bookmark: http://www.mapinc.org/decrim.htm (Decrim/Legalization)
Bookmark: http://www.mapinc.org/find?162 (Nevadans for Responsible Law
Enforcement)
Bookmark: http://www.mapinc.org/find?163 (Question 9 (NV))

WONDER DRUG COVER-UP

We've heard it repeatedly. It's the mantra of prosecutors, police officers
and federal drug officials: There's no scientific evidence that marijuana
is medicine.

In D. Brian Burghart's News & Review article on ballot Question 9, Burghart
reported that number one on law enforcement's list of reasons for opposing
marijuana use was, "No one, not the American Medical Association or the
courts, has scientifically proven pot has medicinal benefits." The
distinguished physician Dr. Richard Gammick, Washoe County's district
attorney, once said, "They would have to prove this is a medically

necessary drug ... "

URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v02.n2024.a04.html

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Pubdate: Thu, 31 Oct 2002
Source: New Era, The (OR)
Copyright: 2002 The New Era Publishing Co.
Contact: newera@...
Details: http://www.mapinc.org/media/2662
Website: http://www.sweethomenews.com
Bookmark: http://www.mapinc.org/mmj.htm (Cannabis - Medicinal)

DEA SEIZES MARIJUANA PLANTS FROM MEDICAL PERMIT HOLDER

A Linn County man announced he was going to sue the U.S. Drug Enforcement
Administration and the Valley Interagency Narcotics Team after a federal
agent seized plants from his state-licensed marijuana garden.

Leroy Stubblefield, 52, of 38785 Mountain Home Dr., between Sweet Home and
Lebanon, is the first person in Oregon to have the federal government seize

state-licensed marijuana, according to the Portland-based Hemp and Cannabis
Foundation.

DEA Assistant Special Agent Kenny Magee said it was not the first time the
DEA has seized marijuana from persons with medical marijuana cards.

Stubblefield, a quadriplegic, and two of his caregivers, Scotty Russell and
Clarence VanDehay have medical marijuana permits, which cost $150 each.

They are permitted up to 21 plants under state law.

URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v02.n2025.a08.html

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*****BUSHWHACKED!!*****

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From: Michael Novick <osowatomie@...>
Subject: Mike Ruppert on Wellstone crash
Status:  

Democrats Twice As Likely to Die In Crashes
Was Paul Wellstone Murdered?
·       History Suggests It
·       Crash Inconsistencies Suggest It
·       Many, Including Some Members of Congress, Believe It
by Michael C. Ruppert
[© Copyright 2002, From The Wilderness Publications, www.fromthewilderness.com. All rights reserved. THIS IS A SUBSCRIBER-ONLY STORY AND MAY NOT BE POSTED ON A WEB SITE WITHOUT EXPRESS WRITTEN PERMISSION. Contact media@.... This story may be redistributed, circulated or copied for non-profit purposes only.]
Nov. 1, 2002, 15:00 PST (FTW) -- The air crash deaths of Sen. Paul Wellstone, his wife, daughter, three staff members and two pilots at approximately 10:25 a.m. on Oct. 25 in Eveleth, Minn. has given rise to the widespread belief -- shared by at least two members of the House of Representatives who spoke on condition of anonymity -- that the crash was a murder.

Just as important as the known details of the crash, in many cases contradicting mainstream press reports, is the fact that the belief is so widely held. It says something about America that cannot and should not be ignored.

A HISTORY TOO FULL OF COINCIDENCES
From a historical standpoint Democrats are twice as likely to die in air crashes as Republicans. Frequently, those who have died were known to have been either involved in the investigation of covert operations or to have taken highly controversial positions in opposition to vested government interests.
Sam Smith of the Progressive Review (www.prorev.com) published an Oct. 25 story titled "Politicians Killed In Plane Crashes." For his source he used a wonderful database found at http://politicalgraveyard.com. Of 22 air crashes involving state and federal officials, including one ambassador (Arnold Raphael) and one cabinet official (Ron Brown), FTW found that 14 (64 percent) were members of the Democratic Party and 8 (36 percent) were members of the Republican Party. If the list was limited to only elected members of Congress, the total was eight Democrats and four Republicans.

Six of the fatalities occurred during election campaigns. Of those, four were Democrats and two were Republicans. Maybe Democrats can't afford the same type of planes that Republicans can. That certainly was not the case with Paul Wellstone who was killed in a Beechcraft King Air 100, twin turboprop. The King Air is a favorite of many politicians and is widely regarded as the "Cadillac" of twin-engined propeller driven airplanes. The state of Minnesota owns two of them. And as FTW reported in October 1999, a Beechcraft King Air owned by the state of Texas was a personal favorite of then-Gov. George W. Bush. That particular King Air had a sordid past however. It had previously been owned by the legendary drug smuggler Barry Seal. (The Associated Press picked up our story of the plane's history).

To read our story on the Bush/Seal airplane connection, please visit:
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ciadrugs/W_plane.html.
Several names on the list are readily connected to intrigue.
Rep. Hale Boggs, D-La., was killed in 1972 and had been an outspoken member of the Warren Commission investigating the assassination of JFK. Various sources reported that he had openly expressed doubts about the commission's findings.
Rep. Jerry Litton, D-Mo., was killed while campaigning for a U.S. Senate seat from Missouri nearly two months before the 1976 election. This was exactly the same fate that was to befall Missouri Democratic Gov. Mel Carnahan four years later.

Rep. Larry McDonald, D-Ga. and the national chairman of the John Birch Society and creator of a private intelligence operation called Western Goals, was killed on KAL 007 after it had mysteriously veered off course on a flight to South Korea and ventured several hundred miles into Soviet territory. The plane was shot down by the Soviet air force. At the time, McDonald's Western Goals was being exposed in an LAPD intelligence scandal linked to massive domestic spying, the CIA and covert operatives like Gen. John Singlaub.

Rep. Larkin Smith, D-Miss. was killed in a private plane crash in 1989. At the time he had been working with veterans of U.S. Army Special Forces looking into the deaths of five Green Beret colonels, all of whom had been connected to a covert CIA drug operation known as Watchtower. [Details of Smith's death are included in the FTW package "The Tyree Papers."]
Secretary of Commerce Ron Brown, a Democrat, was killed in a plane crash in Croatia on April 3, 1996. There are many unresolved mysteries with this incident, not the least of which is a color photograph of a post mortem Brown, which is frequently displayed by comedian/activist Dick Gregory, clearly showing a bullet wound in the back of his skull.
John Tower, a recently retired Republican senator from Texas known for his heavy drinking, was writing a book about the Iran-Contra affair when he was killed in a plane crash in 1991. Tower had reportedly been extremely unhappy when he had been denied an appointment as secretary of defense by President George Herbert Walker Bush. Tower had also been the chairman of a Reagan-appointed independent commission investigating Iran-Contra.

THE WELLSTONE CRASH
Perhaps no member of the Senate ranked higher on the Bush Administration's enemies list than Minnesota Democrat Paul Wellstone. And the enmity goes back years to when Bush's father was president. The Nov. 4 issue of Time recounts an encounter between Wellstone and the elder Bush after which he referred to Wellstone as "this chickenshit." And it is known that there has been at least one prior reported attempt on Wellstone's life.
In the months before his death Wellstone had voted against several key Bush agendas including Homeland Security, the Iraqi use of force resolution and many of Bush's judicial nominees. In a Senate controlled 50-49 by the Democrats, Wellstone was perhaps the single one-man obstacle to Bush's fervent and stated desire to secure passage of the Homeland Security measure prior to a U.S. invasion of Iraq.
When the Senate reconvenes after the Nov. 5 election the balance will be 49-49 with one independent, Sen. Jim Jeffords of Vermont. Jeffords has been caucusing with the Democrats. If there is a tie vote, Vice President Dick Cheney, as president of the Senate, will decide the outcome.

Of special interest now is the Missouri Senate race, where the victor will be seated immediately after the election. Jean Carnahan -- whose husband Mel was killed in a similar plane crash two years ago -- seeks to hold on to a seat she gained by filling in for her husband after his death just days before the 2000 election. Under Missouri law, because of the death, the seat is only legally occupied until a new election is held.
So what happened to Paul Wellstone?
A check of more than 50 of the world's leading news organizations three days after the Wellstone crash left one clear impression: the crash had been caused by "freezing rain and snow," limited visibility, and likely icing of the wings. One CNN report on Oct. 24 described the plane as flying in "snowy, frozen rain."

None of these conditions, which did not exist as just described, had anything to do with the crash.
Icing can be ruled out for a number of reasons. First, as reported in the St. Paul Pioneer Press on Oct. 29, "Another pilot who landed a slightly larger twin engine plane at the airport on Friday, a couple of hours before Wellstone's plane crashed, said in an interview that he experienced no significant problems.
"Veteran pilot Ray Juntunen said there was very light ice, 'but nothing to be alarmed about. It shouldn't have been a problem.'

"He said he ran into moderate icing conditions at 10,000 feet and requested permission to drop to 5,000. At that altitude, he had only light icing. When he dropped to 3,400 feet, to begin his approach, 'the ice slid off the windshield,' he said.
"According to the NTSB [National Transportation Safety Board], Wellstone's pilots received warnings of icing at 9,000 to 11,000 feet and were allowed to descend to 4,000 feet. Juntunen said he was able to see the airport from five miles out, and another pilot landed a half-hour later and told him the clouds were a little lower, but sill not bad."

Various local press reports state that the weather conditions at the time of the crash were overcast, with visibility of three miles and a ceiling of 700 feet.
An argument that the weather worsened immediately after these two pilots landed and before Wellstone crashed is belied by the fact that a contemporaneous Doppler weather radar map of the region obtained by FTW from the National Weather Service shows no major storm activity and the same basic conditions as reported previously.

[Click image to enlarge.]
(Note: Image shows time in GMT. Duluth, MN is GMT -6.)
To further clarify this, FTW interviewed a retired commercial airline pilot who still maintains full current FAA certifications. The pilot, who asked not to be identified by name, provided FTW with copies of his pilot's license, his current FAA medical certificate, and his gold membership card in the Airline Pilot's Association.
Upon reviewing the radar map he stated that there was nothing inherently dangerous in what he saw depending upon what additional conditions might be prevalent at the time like ceiling and visibility. When advised that the reported visibility was three miles with a ceiling of 700 feet he stated, "That shouldn't be any problem, especially if you have planes taking off right before and even at the time of the crash."

In various press reports the King Air was described as an excellently powered aircraft, and that de-icing equipment was standard.
And the Pioneer Press reported on Oct. 26 that Gary Ulman, the assistant manager of the Eveleth-Virginia Municipal Airport, "jumped into his own private plane and took off in search of the missing aircraft" after noting the Wellstone plane's delayed arrival. Therefore, the icing conditions could not have been a contributing factor in the crash, or else the airport manager would not have taken off.
What has been disclosed by various local press sources, including stories in the Oct. 28 and 29 Pioneer Press, is the following:
- The plane, although it was required to have only one, had two fully licensed commercial pilots. The lead pilot had 5,200 hours of flying time and the highest possible certification. No physical problems had been reported with either pilot;

- The plane was not required to and did not have either a flight data recorder or a cockpit voice recorder;
- Wellstone's plane had notified the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) that it was on approach to the airport and had activated the runway lights;
- The time from the last radio contact with the FAA when everything was normal until the crash was approximately 60 seconds;
- The pilots -- as is standard procedure for unmanned airports -- had sent a radio signal from their airplane to equipment at the airport which turned on the runway lights and activated a directional beacon that would align the plane with the runway. [Note: The Eveleth airport was not equipped with a more sophisticated remotely activated instrument landing system that would have provided feedback to the pilots on speed, rate of descent and above ground altitude];

- The FAA found that "an airport landing beacon, owned and maintained by the state...[was]...out of tolerance Saturday and was retesting Sunday." This was later confirmed by the acting chairwoman of the NTSB, Carol Carmody; [Note: According to the NTSB web site Carmody formerly worked for the Central Intelligence Agency.]
- The runway selected ran directly east to west and that Wellstone's plane was on final approach from the east;

- According to FAA records as reported Oct. 29 in the WWorkers Daily, at 10:19 a.m. at an altitude of 3,500 feet the plane began to drift away from the runway toward the south;
- According to the same source, the plane was last sighted at 10:21 a.m. flying at 1,800 feet;
- Wellstone's plane was found approximately two miles south of the eastern half of the runway, facing south. [Early press reports placed the crash site at between 2-7 miles east of the runway. Subsequent television reports, accompanied by maps, placed the crash site at this location. FTW is continuing to investigate the exact location of the crash site.];

- The propellers were turning at the time of the crash;
- The angle of impact was 30 degrees (extremely steep), indicating the plane was out of control;
- The wing flaps, which should have been fully extended for landing were only extended to 15 degrees (a setting used for initial approach descent)
- That the plane had been traveling at approximately 85 knots.
One quote from the Pioneer Press is interesting. "Radar tapes indicate the plane had descended to about 400 feet and was traveling at only 85 knots near the end of its flight. It then turned south, dove at an unusually steep angle and crashed."
Aside from the aircraft's sudden change in direction and the setting of the flaps, the airspeed is perhaps the most intriguing known element in the crash. A number of factors, if the data which had been released by the NTSB is to be believed, indicate that the Wellstone plane stalled just before crashing. A stall usually occurs when an aircraft's nose is raised too steeply for the throttle setting of the engine.

One account of a King Air's stall characteristics can be found at http://www.ainonline.com/Features/Pilotreports2000/AIN_pr_kingair.html.
This text described a situation where the stall warning horn (an alert that warns if airspeed is too slow) was activated under landing conditions (gear down with full flaps) at 85 knots. This writer has been in several small aircraft and experienced the noise. It is intentionally loud, distracting and unmistakable. The account stated that the actual stall did not occur until the aircraft being tested reached 69 knots. That's 16 knots slower than what was reported.

Other factors like the plane's total weight and center of gravity might have changed these outcomes. The FAA lists the standard approach speed for a King Air B 100 (the type carrying Wellstone) as 111 knots. Therefore the crash speed was significantly below the recommended approach speed which is generally estimated at 1.3 times the manufacturer's listed stall speed.
The fact that the planes flaps were extended only 15 degrees would have raised the stall speed.
SPECULATION
This writer has spoken to several pilots who have flown high-risk covert missions for the CIA or the Department of Defense. One of them related to me once that it would be easy to cause an aircraft to fly right into the ground by recalibrating the airport's IFR approach equipment and resetting the altitude. In fact, such a scenario was used in the movie Die Hard II.

But the Eveleth airport was equipped with only a directional beacon to line the plane up with the runway. It has already been established that this equipment was not "properly calibrated" and yet there are no reports of any deviations by either of the two pilots who landed safely shortly before the crash. That might have been what caused Wellstone's plane to veer off to the south.
Several press reports have described small hills around the airport.
Given that the ceiling was only about 700 feet and the plane's rate of descent would have been between 300 and 500 feet per minute it is possible that the plane emerged from the clouds close to the ground and the pilots, seeing that they were off course, initiated a sharp left turn toward the south to initiate a go-around. They would not have turned right because that would have taken them at an angle over the center of the runway, something pilots are trained not to do to avoid collisions.

From this point, answers are hard to come by. A physical examination of the crash site might reveal a large hill that would have been immediately in front of the aircraft when it emerged from the clouds. FTW has not found any press reports that address this point.

An imminent head-on crash into a hillside would have prompted a "Hail Mary" yanking back of the control yoke and an instant move to full throttle. FTW has seen no press reports indicating the throttle settings of Wellstone's plane -- only statements that the propellers were turning.
Mechanical sabotage of flight controls that would only be triggered under certain conditions or an incapacitating gas might also offer explanations as to why a stall warning horn was not responded to. King Airs have pressurized cabins.

There are many questions, but the circumstances of the crash, as known thus far, do not lead to conclusions of pilot error, mechanical failure or bad weather. What does that leave? It leaves us with three dead Democratic senatorial candidates (Litton - 1976, Carnahan - 2000, and Wellstone - 2002) who all died in small private airplanes just days before critical elections.
ARGUING WITH BLITZER OVER THE DEATH OF A KNOWN TARGET
Many experienced internet researchers, especially post-9-11, understand the importance of immediately securing local press reports and eyewitness statements to pivotal events in the moments after they occur. Several keen observers were able to transcribe the following live dialogue between an on-the-scene reporter and CNN's Wolf Blizter.
Reporter: There is no evidence that weather had anything to do with the crash.
Blizter: But the plane was flying into some sort of ice storm, was it not?
Reporter: There is no evidence that the weather had anything to do with the crash.
According to these observers CNN immediately cut away from the on-scene reporter who was not heard from again. Other watchers noted a crawl along the bottom of the screen which, they said, ran only one time, "Weather not a factor in crash."
Yet the stories currently posted on the CNN site still suggest that the crash was caused by bad weather and icing.
Paul Wellstone had been a target of an assassin once before. He was strident opponent of Plan Colombia, a U.S. military aid package which involves massive aerial spraying of lands believed to be growing cocaine and the use of private military contractors employed by companies like DynCorp. Wellstone had traveled to Colombia to evaluate the program.

Shortly after his arrival on Dec. 1, 2000, as reported by a number of news sources including the AP, a bomb was found along his route from the airport. Although the State Department later downplayed the incident, the general opinion was, and remains, that as an outspoken critic of CIA and covert operations, Wellstone had indeed been a target.
Those suspicions gained credibility the next day when Wellstone and his staff were sprayed with glyphosate, a chemical that has been routinely documented as the cause of a variety of illnesses in the local population. It has left certain regions of Colombia, as one native put it, "Without butterflies or birds."

One anonymous author, using the pen name Voxfux, actually predicted Wellstone's assassination in spring 2001. The story can be read at www.voxnyc.com. In that missive the author predicted, "If the death occurs just prior to the midterm senatorial elections, expect it to be in a state with a close race. Expect a 'Mel Carnahan' style hit."
INSIDE SOURCES
FTW was able to receive comments on the crash from two Democratic members of the House of Representatives. Both, who spoke on condition of anonymity, stated that they believed that Wellstone had been murdered.
One said, "I don't think there's anyone on the Hill who doesn't suspect it. It's too convenient, too coincidental, too damned obvious. My guess is that some of the less courageous members of the party are thinking about becoming Republicans right now."
It is a rare occurrence when this writer refers to a quote from an unnamed CIA source. I have demonstrated in at least four interviews with the staffs of both the Senate and House Intelligence committees established that I know sources who have worked for the CIA in some very nasty covert operations.

The day after the crash I received a message from a former CIA operative who has proven extremely reliable in the past and who is personally familiar with these kinds of assassinations. The message read, "As I said earlier, having played ball (and still playing in some respects) with this current crop of reinvigorated old white men, these clowns are nobody to screw around with. There will be a few more strategic accidents. You can be certain of that."

Quo Vadis?

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Gore Vidal claims 'Bush junta' complicit in 9/11

America's most controversial writer Gore Vidal has launched the

most scathing attack to date on George W Bush's Presidency, calling

for an investigation into the events of 9/11 to discover whether the

Bush administration deliberately chose not to act on warnings of

Al-Qaeda's plans.

Vidal's highly controversial 7000 word polemic titled 'The Enemy

Within' - published in the print edition of The Observer today - argues

that what he calls a 'Bush junta' used the terrorist attacks as a

pretext to enact a pre-existing agenda to invade Afghanistan and

crack down on civil liberties at home.

Vidal writes: 'We still don't know by whom we were struck that

infamous Tuesday, or for what true purpose. But it is fairly plain to

many civil libertarians that 9/11 put paid not only to much of our

fragile Bill of Rights but also to our once-envied system of

government which had taken a mortal blow the previous year when

the Supreme Court did a little dance in 5/4 time and replaced a

popularly elected President with the oil and gas Bush-Cheney junta.'

http://www.observer.co.uk/worldview/story/0,11581,819941,00.html

http://www.observer.co.uk/worldview/

(Unfortunately, the full text is not available online due to rights

issues: the link above contains an account of Gore Vidal's argument

and some key quotes)

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From: Hattie <epoptica@...>
To: <ibogaine@...>
Subject: Re: [ibogaine] This weeks iboga extract administration
Status:  

on 10/30/02 7:34 AM, Mundo Real at earthpod2@... wrote:

In my experience, as a former treatment provider in the UK, 20mg/kg is on the high end, but not necessarily too high. I normally preferred to use 18mg/kg and had the best and safest results with this dose. I only dosed someone with 20mg/kg once and was nervous about doing so.

I cannot say whether his experience was more profound than those given 18mg/kg. Everyones experience is so unique it is hard to say which dose works best, or indeed how it works at all. One woman had a very high dose and only felt it for three or four hours and then was pretty much back to normal so you never know.

Due to safety concerns with people I have treated I wasn't really comfortable using the 20mg/kg dose. This could have been that I am one  to always err on the side of caution. But the higher the doses the more I encountered physical difficulties for the people involved.

I generally used 16/17mgs per kg for females and 17/18 for males depending on their state of health. This was often an intuitive procedure as for those working in this field there are no clearly defined maps, right. We ourselves are creating them.

I found that there was a real difference in experiences under the 16mg/kg dose or over. And that 16mg/kg was my lowest dose in the end unless someone had hepC and then I generally did 15mg/kg and if very bad health lower. 16 or over seemed to really get the experience people were looking for and under that didn't quite hit the mark in my experience with people, but again as mentioned above some people didn't even really feel the high end dose.

Its a magical thing taking place, and the inner healing of an individual unfolding can never really be predicted.


It would be really great to hear all the treatment providers opinion on the dose range, and why they use the doses they use.

I am compiling a paper on my work (this is a very quick email and not in depth enough I know)
and would love feedback from other providers on this issue.

For those interested in knowing why I have stopped at the moment. There are various reasons but the primary one being that a lot of people that came to me for treatment lied about their health in ways that endangered both them and me. I found out that four people I had treated had had hep C and had told me they hadn't some even forging doctors papers! The man that vomited blood for seven hours had stomach ulcers, and hadn't told me despite the fact that I gave everyone an in depth interview about the medical health and previous record. He also had a history of heart disease in his family and hadn't told me.

I realised that unless I had everyones doctors file in front of me I would never know the truth. And so am now waiting for a time when I can work with a doctor, who will be willing to carry out a full medical screening prior to ibogaine ingestion. Any doctors out there who want to get involved?!

Until later,

Hattie

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From: MARC <marc420emery@...>
To: ibogaine@...
X-Priority: 3
Subject: [ibogaine] Setbacks in My Treatments so far
Status:  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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From: Mundo Real <earthpod2@...>
To: ibogaine@...
Subject: Re: [ibogaine] Setbacks in My Treatments so far
Status:  

Marc, welcome to the world of addiction!! Not any one thing can help everyone, everytime to SHIFT into a healthier state of being. Iboga is a great tool and is probably the most viable cure on this planet for addiction. Iboga however, just gives the addict a huge open doorway to walk through (pretty easy). It is then up to the addict to then follow through. I won't do a treatment unless I am assured that re-hab in one way or another (therapy, acupuncture, etc.) will be utilized (after the person transitions back into reality). Hanging out with same old friends and watching the same fucked up things on TV is a great recipe for relapse. The REAL work begins AFTER an ibo treatment. Ibo can give some answers, Ibo can detox with dignity, Ibo can reduce the cravings. Ibo can probably do a whole lot of other things that we don't even know about (if the intention is right) But ibo can not do it all for the addict. It takes earnest motivation and desire to SHIFT along with correct thought, speech and action. That's tough for anyone to do (not just for addicts).  Don't be discouraged. We are all on a path together and headed to an efficient, safe, cost-effective, and healing solution for addiction. Integration of REAL post-care is probably the most effective way of preventing a relapse. Also, some people need boosters, some people need up to 10 days to go through a treatment. Everyone is different. Again, don't be discouraged, you are doing good work and we will get to that solution soon.                                                   Mundo.

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From: Steve Valman <stevevalman@...>
To: ibogaine@...
Subject: Re: [ibogaine] Setbacks in My Treatments so far
Status:  

What you just wrote is my exact problem and question about all of this. I

reprinted the one message that summarized it all the best which was Occam's
and nobody replied to me. I haven't heard anyone say that ibogaine doesn't
detox you, I think everything I've ever read agrees that it does.

But mostly what I'm seeing are a few exceptions, most represented by Patrick.

Fine, Patrick is whatever he is and he shot heroin from 14 until 30 and

stopped because of ibogaine, but whatever he is, he is not representative of
any "normal" human being. Whatever that means.

While he is the most visible and articulate ibogaine success story in the
world, there are at least a handful of people on this list who all fall into
the same category. That being the exceptions.

What has been brought up before and never addressed are all the positive
stories from informal treatment in the 80s. I don't think I have yet seen one
person on this list fall into that category. None, zero. I've seen many people
detoxed and then all of them seem to disappear. Sometimes they stick around
for a while and give updates how they are doing like Karina, but then they
vanish. I can guess where they vanish to.

So what does all that mean for ibogaine. It only works if you're brilliant,
crazy, super motivated? It only works if you did it in the 80s and then it
stopped working.

This was my question. Yes Patrick has answered the same question at length on
numerous occasions, but I simply am not seeing very many people who stay clean
post ibogaine. From this list alone there are so many stories of I just did
ibogaine and I'm clean, it's great. Then every one of them vanishes.

And further, reading what Patrick has actually written, not one thing he
himself says, has anything to do with what was written about ibogaine in the
80s either. From what I remember it's more "I'm losing my fucking mind and

want to shoot dope" Then he went to Bangkok and I guess succeeded in losing

his mind completely and emerged clean. But he did it with a few sheets of LSD
and god knows how many other entheogens and a huge amount of work on his part.

I am not seeing ibogaine solving any of that. It detoxes you. So do a lot of
other things.

That was my point. Thank you Marc.

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From: AndriaE@...
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:05:25 EST
To: ibogaine@...
Subject: [ibogaine] For Steve from Andria in London
Status:  

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From: "Randy Hencken" <randyhencken@...>
To: ibogaine@...
Bcc:
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 17:56:04 -0800
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Nov 2002 01:56:04.0414 (UTC) FILETIME=[007F7DE0:01C28213]
Subject: Re: [ibogaine] Setbacks in My Treatments so far
Status:  

Steve,

Ibogaine is much more then a detox.  Ibogaine is an opportunity to change compulsive behaviors, Many people don't take advantage of that.  Most addicts are looking for a quick fix and aren't ready to do the real work that it takes stay clean.

I have been clean for well over a year.  The beginning of my clean time was hard; I was constantly battling the urge to use.  It is now easy for me to stay clean.  I have done the work necessary to put dope out of my life.  There is nothing left in heroin or cocaine for me.

I've witnessed many people make miraculous changes via ibogaine.  Have you done ibo yet?  Until you try, I don't think you should belittle it.  Ibogaine is the best thing that ever happened to me, might be the best thing that will ever happen to you.

Randy Hencken

www.ibogaine-therapy.net

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From: "Nick Sandberg" <nick.sandberg@...>
To: <ibogaine@...>
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:39:31 -0000
X-Priority: 3
Subject: Re: [ibogaine] Setbacks in My Treatments so far

Status:

 

 

 

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From: HSLotsof@...
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:07:11 EST
To: ibogaine@...

Subject: Re: [ibogaine] Setbacks in My Treatments so far

Marc,

Many people who provide iboga or ibogaine expect too much or propose to much
in terms of what ibogaine/iboga may or may not accomplish.

The historic use of iboga/ibogaine to treat chemical dependence in the
literature indicates that in the vast majority of cases multiple treatments
will be required.  Both informal providers and scientific professionals such
as Glick and Mash indicate as do the ibogaine patents and the Manual (I
think) <www.ibogaine.org/manual.html> that multiple treatments are common and
further that small doses may prove valuable in overcoming craving.

As strange as it seem to many, I no longer view abstinence as my ultimate
goal in providing ibogaine but, that any benefit of any kind, that may
include only painless withdrawal from opiates as a valuable ibogaine effect
is appropriate.  It may take years to work out the addiction memory pathways
that took years to be set down.

If medical doctors were so affected by their treatment "failures" (?) as some
ibogaine providers are, there would be few doctors practicing medicine.

One of the reason methadone advocates and ibogaine advocates have been
working cooperatively is that each has come to recognize the value of the
alternative therapy even if for interim purposes to the other.

All medicine is experimental and ibogaine therapy is very experimental.  If
you are going to do the work you have to anticipate a broad spectrum of
patients responses.   The best possibility would be for ibogaine or
second/third generation analogs to be approved and paid for by social and
private insurance to remove the direct cost issue.  That is not to say that
there should not be elite facilities who can provide better care but,
ibogaine in some form should be available to anyone who needs it on their
terms and not on the providers terms.

Howard

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From: "Curtis  Hersch" <crownofthorns72@...>
To: ibogaine@...
Subject: Re: Re: [ibogaine] Setbacks in My Treatments so far

On Sat, 02 Nov 2002 brendan22@... wrote :

Watch out world, somebody is taking psych 201 this fall ;-)

I know a lot of you like to define yourselves as addicts and wallow in this very harsh and negative energy, but I am not a alpha male, not a genius and have occasional flashbacks though I would not say I suffer from them :-) I am also clean.

Patrick gives very reasonable advice if you ever read what he writes instead of taking things he says to a list at random. I think most of it amounts to believe in something and do something, because you are the one who has got to do it bro. And Mr. Ibogaine Superman from what I remember from his writing took 2 or 3 doses of ibogaine before he got it together either. He wrote about his first dose as lasting as long as it took him to get to the airport and find the nearest dealer which was about 20 minutes clean before he was back on heroin.

Patrick is just larger then life because his media kit is like 3 feet thick and he was somebody before he destroyed his whole life. It makes a great story. But there are other people who did not do so much damage or have such a dramatic recovery or go on to great things, who did stop using drugs that were killing them because of ibogaine.

I don't know about the 80's and all, but no I haven't found any of that instant cure stuff they wrote about either. I think they were being very optimistic.

Peace out,
Curtis

FWIW my tag line for the day from the cosmic eightball was "I have not failed, I have just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison.
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From: "preston peet" <ptpeet@...>
To: <ibogaine@...>
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:27:20 -0500
X-Priority: 3

Subject: Re: Re: [ibogaine] Setbacks in My Treatments so far

 

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From: Randywalker57@...
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:51:08 EST
To: ibogaine@...
Subject: Re: [ibogaine] Setbacks in My Treatments so far
Status:  

Marc,
         I am not from the 80's, not brilliant, and have had 3 Ibogaine HCL

sessions. Do I consider myself a failure because the first did not magically

take care of my addiction? Not at all. Am I better today? Absolutely!  I
believe Ibogaine is a very powerful tool, but it is not a cure. To my
knowledge, cure and opiates don't belong in the same paragraph together. I
think if there is a problem with the Ibogaine enthusiasts, it is with this
concept that Ibogaine is going to cure. I would have loved to have been

cured, but I still have to work at staying clean. The Ibogaine has been a
great tool. Not just during the sessions. Many positive thoughts from the
sessions stay with me, and can be drawn upon daily. Unlike other detoxes, I
had a clear head and good thinking immediately after the detox. One reason I
don't write on the forums much anymore, is that I am busy living life today.
I work and have a family. I don't spend so much time anymore on looking for
answers. I am living and working. Many of the answers to my questions were
answered in my sessions. It made me well aware that I had to change in order
for anything to change. Please don't be unrealistic in your expectations. In
my case, I used opiates for 20yrs. I went to prison 5 times because of
opiates. I lost everything including my spirit because of opiates. I am clean
today. I work and have a relationship with my family. Miracles? Sometimes our
miracles are very small to those on the outside, but they are huge to us that
have lived the life.
               Please don't give up on the Ibo, and don't give up on your
people. The one person that wants to do it again? Believe me, that tells me

that he wants to quit. Ibogaine for me was no fun. I swore that I would never
do it again. I didn't even want to touch it. But, I knew what it did and what
it could do. Today, I am an advocate of Ibogaine. I am not one of the one's
that support anything under the sun. It is not a beautiful tripping

recreational drug. It is a serious detoxing drug with life changing
qualities.
              Sorry for all the rambling. I am just an addict trying to live
in this non-addict world. Take care, Marc. By the way...I think what you are

doing is very admirable. Keep your chin up, Randy

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From: "Patrick K. Kroupa" <digital@...>

To: ibogaine@...
Subject: Re: [ibogaine] Setbacks in My Treatments so far
Status:  

On [Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:38:39PM -0800], [Steve Valman] wrote:

<Many words, saying many things, mostly about me...>

| I am not seeing ibogaine solving any of that. It detoxes you. So do a lot of
| other things.

I've done every detox for opiates/opioids that exists.  Usually 2 or 3
times, just to make sure I got the full experience, and was able to add it

to my Flavors of Pain collection.

NONE of them do what ibogaine does.  Ibogaine doesn't detox you, it hits a
reset.  NOTHING else that exists -- that I know about, and exists Right
Now anyway -- does this.  It does not detox you, it nonexists your habit
and does a complete reset.

This is a huge difference.

| > My son, who we treated with indra extract, after 28 days being drug free
| > after iboga, lapsed and scored heroin a week ago. He got kicked out of his
| > mothers home as a consequence of scoring,  where he and his girlfriend were

| > living .(having detoxed via iboga indra extract there for 28 days). He
| > wasn't going through withdrawl, as he told me, "I had the opportunity and I
| > took the opportunity."
| >
| > His future and that of his girlfriend  now becomes very uncertain.

Yeah well, the future's uncertain and the end is always near, or did
somebody already say that.  Anyway, without knowing your son, if he made
it that long, left to his own devices; then he's doing pretty good.
Depending on how much shit he has in his head to wade through, then he may

well have nearly walked on water.

As Earthpod pointed out, ibogaine sorta opens the door.  WHAT it opens the
door to, is highly individual.  Some people may have a tough climb, up a
steep hill; others get the chance to crawl through hell.

Whatever is there, the answer is exactly the same: the way out is through.

And unfortunately, no matter how much money you have, or who you pay it

to, there isn't any way to avoid doing whatever it is that YOU hafta deal
with.

As someone else mentioned, post ibogaine 1; I made it to the airport, and
copped dope within about half an hour.  And it was truly fucking
excellent.  Coming off basically almost a decade sprung, I really felt it
for the first time in quite a while.  Ibogaine was a great investment, if

only to feel my drugs again.  What good is money anyway, you can't inject
it.

The ibogaine was an absolute fucking miracle.  Because out of all the
detoxes I ever did, I always felt exactly the same afterwards.  Which is
to say; sick as fuck.  With ibogaine the drug dependence was actually
lifted...  Unfortunately I also had the opportunity to very vividly
re-remember what I chose to forget most of the time: heroin addiction
isn't my problem, it's my solution.  My problem is that I have hell coming
down inside my head, and it's killing me, say, where's the dope?

I hafta go, and do not have the time to cover all this point by point, but
whatever their psychology, on a purely physical basis; many -- if not most
-- people, wind up needing multiple doses.  Especially stimulant abusers.
Multiple doses means 2, sometimes 3 or 4.  By the time you've hit ibogaine
5, well mahn, it's all you.

There are also many people who hit themselves with a tuneup onna regular
basis.  If they don't get it, they blow out.

All this is your call, but were I you, I'd pretend to be pissed off for a
few days -- perhaps not hard to do -- give your son the impression that

actions do have consequences, and then redose him.

A lot of this is just figuring out where ibogaine ends, and you begin.
Okay this is what it does, this is what it will not do, and this is what
to expect.  Been there, done that, okay; take II.

The 12-steps don't do much of anything for me.  I could never make it past

step 1.  I'm not powerless -- especially after ibogaine -- I'm making
choices.  Perhaps my choices suck, but as insane as they may appear to be,
all I'm trying to do here is stay alive. 

Here's a much better first step: Just keep getting back up.  Because
eventually you will stand.

| > I realize iboga is no quick fix on the psychology of addiction, but it is

| > discouraging,

Yeah, no kidding. 

| > these kind of lapses. Since we are not charging people for our
| > help, the only reward we get is seeing people off these addictive drugs. So
| > today we are a bit down.

I dunno your financial situation.  If you have the resources to offer
people who need help, the chance to get unsprung.  That's highly
beautiful.  If those same people wanna keep coming back, well, there's

that line between helping, and just being used.  You may wanna make them
at least pay for the materials, and additional costs involved.

Many people WILL require multiple doses.  But heroin and crack ain't free
either, and if you really are motivated, then you're going to come up with

a way to get SOME cash. 

Patrick

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From: Brett Calabrese <bcalabrese@...>
To: ibogaine@...
Subject: Re: [ibogaine] Setbacks in My Treatments so far
Status:  

Marc

Success depends on how you measure it and is not
always black or white, success or failure. Recovery

often comes in fits and starts, even with ibogaine
usually not all at once. I also understand "tough

love" and consequences but they are not always the

solution or even a good idea. If your son is willing
to re-dose with ibo, give it another shot - and if it
takes another after that or ANOTHER after that - so
what, no one is keeping score. Many cases including
myself were not one shot (of ibo) "successes", not
even the world famous Patrick did it in one shot. Post
ibogaine addicts often have no physical addiction and

no cravings, but use anyway - cause they are addicts
and don't know any other way. Also, ibogaine seems to
do what it can at the time, if it is a physical
addiction it does that (and maybe some other stuff for
sure) but a re-treat doesn't have to mess with a
physical addiction and seems to do more for the head.

Taking ibogaine while addicted to an opiate and when

not addicted are very different experiences (more than
the usual, they are ALL DIFFERENT).  Maybe your son is
52% of the way to being clean (whatever that is), did
he fall short by 48% or has he gotten 52% of the way
there - is the glass half full or half empty???
Depends on how ya want to look at it.

Point. If you got a group of addicts who are all READY
to quit, sure you are going to have better success

than if they are not willing enough - but you will
have success either way

Point, if you dosed a group of addicts multiple times
with ibo, they will without a doubt have more (lets
say longer term) success than with a single treatment
- is this the addicts "fault" for the difference, that
they didn't get clean with fewer treatments??? Is it
the fault of the ibogaine??? It is no ones fault and
no one failed, it is a process.

If someone uses once (twice, thrice...), SO WHAT? If
that a measure of failure, then I am a very clean
(squeaky these days), happy failure. It happens
(relapse), not to me now, but it did happen to me
after my first ibo treatment and after the 2nd - it
takes what it takes and let me tell you I was NOT
STOPPING till I got right where I am.

Also, keep in mind a "booster" (my term) does NOT
require the full blown anti-addictive dose, so long as
they are not addicted (again...). At (depending of
course on the patient) a 10-12mg/kg dose, people are
pretty steady by the end of the next day (if not the
next afternoon). It is much less dangerous and you
pretty much know how sensitive they are - so maybe you

can cut back a bit. This is the dose range you should
use on yourself, should you decide to take some - it
could be that you get some answers for yourself... If
you are a "lightweight" do a bit less, if you are a
stoner, you can do the full 12mg/kg. My Fiancee did
ibo, but then she didn't "need it" cause she never did

any drugs, that was till she did it and she understood
and UNDERSTOOD.

Steve

"> This was my question. Yes Patrick has answered the
> same question at length on
> numerous occasions, but I simply am not seeing very
> many people who stay clean
> post ibogaine. "

I am clean, but then I did ibogaine more than once,
Patrick did ibogaine more than once so did many other

ibogaine "successes" - or failures, depending on how
you want to look at it. I will do ibogaine again and
again till I don't. It is not a matter of "getting
close" to relapse any longer, it is for what it does.

Ya know, the stuff quite literally saved my life, I
would be worm food or ashes on someones mantle -

success in my book...

Brett
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From: "sara glatt" <sara119@...>

Subject: Re: [ibogaine] Setbacks in My Treatments so far

 

 

 

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From: "preston peet" <ptpeet@...>
To: <ibogaine@...>
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:11:56 -0500
X-Priority: 3
Subject: Re: [ibogaine] Setbacks in My Treatments so far
Status:  

>Unfortunately I also had the opportunity to very vividly
re-remember what I chose to forget most of the time: heroin addiction
isn't my problem, it's my solution.  My problem is that I have hell coming
down inside my head, and it's killing me, say, where's the dope?<

 

Preston Peet
ptpeet@...
Editor http://www.drugwar.com
Editor at Large High Times mag/.com
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in illicit business. It is the policy
of idealists who cannot appreciate that the use
of drugs often reflects other sets of human
ideals: human perfectibility, the yearning
for a perfect moment, the peace that comes

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From: "Nick Sandberg" <nick.sandberg@...>
To: <ibogaine@...>

Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:58:51 -0000

Subject: Re: [ibogaine] Setbacks in My Treatments so far

I agree totally with Howard and Randy's comments above. You gotta approach

treating someone with ibogaine with as much detachment as possible. This
won't be easy in reality, especially when you're doing stuff in your front
room, but my opinion is that you've really gotta try. It's just not fair to
go around telling people they're going to get off with this drug, even with
redosing. And people that do so are saying more about themselves, and
what's going on inside of them, than about ibogaine or reality.

Messiah trips, those who want to heal the world rather than heal themselves,
total reality avoiders, anti-conventional medicine people and conspiracy
freaks, etc, etc - all such people abound in the wonderful world of
ibo-therapy and to me it's totally fine. But, imo, the only fair way to
treat people is to stay real, ask a fair price, and aim for detachment.

Ibogaine will try and show you yourself. The drug will alter your state of
consciousness and then hold a mirror up so you can see who's there. What you
do with this is up to you.

Nick

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Baton Rouge: Robinptilley@... (225)667-9270

Battle Creek: "Jay Statzer" <jstatzer@...> 616-697-4521

http://www.geocities.com/legalizemichigan/battlecreek.htm 20 to 60 folks in '02.

Berlin: Martin Muencheberg <martin@...> 0049-30-29490201 http://www.hanfparade.de 200 participants, 2,000 spectators in '02.

Berne: Swiss Hanf Koordination Sekretariat + 41-31-398-1444

<infor@...> Roman will know which Swiss cities

are marching.

Birmingham: Grow More Weed Campaign, PO Box 9121, Birmingham

B138AU. 01212561303. (Mark Badger) Fax: 0121 256 1302. email:

growmoreweed@... www.growmoreweed.co.uk

March/Festival foundered over Biblical interpretation; just 20 people in '02.

Boone: Stan Chamberlain jc48534@...  828 266 7587   ASU Box 7947, Boone NC 28608

Boston: Massachusetts Cannabis Reform Coalition\NORML P.O. Box

0266, Georgetown, MA 01833-0366 781-944-2266 -

http://www.masscann.org - 781-779-1334 fax Signature-gathering drive in '02.

Boulder:  Ralph Shnelvar  ralph@... 303-546-6125 or Fred Smith 303-449-2390 <smithmf@...>

Braunschweig: <cannabislegal@...> This is an info stall in

Braunschweig distributing leaflets and other information

material from a stall in a shopping area.

Bremen: Silke Tel. 0179/180 25 25 Lieder@... Olaf 0162/77 34

576 Party-Project: 33 99 334 party@... Some 300 participants in '02 despite the bad weather.

Brno: Vaclav Linkov, <linkov@...> Tel.: +420-737-811107

http://www.legalizace.cz  http://www.l.s.cz

Brussels: Ottavio Marzocchi <omarzocchi@...> +32-2-284-5496 www.radicalparty.org

Bucharest:  ClauditZa  clauditza_f@... www.iarba.verde.de.acasa.go.ro 004092195819  address: Spliff Decision, viorele street, nr 34  Bucharest, Romania or Poke www.marihuana.ro 004091343202 address: piata romana, Bucharest, Romania   300 active smokers on a small beach named Kudos in '02.

Buenos Aires: daihatsu missminipimer@... www.mefis.to   or miss olga summers olgasummers@... www. ligalais.com  ARDA (011) 15 40289847 RADDUD (011) 46357820

Nos juntaremos el 4 de mayo, 16 hs., a fumar uno en el planetario buenos aires.

Buffalo: Philip L Beavers jr./B.A.C.H <BLocman420@...>

716-895-1987  or 716-578-3410 1160 E. LOVEJOY (st) buffalo 14206 600-700 people over the course of the day in '02; all 3 networks; no police problems

Burlington: Denny Lane / Brendan Kinney, Vermont Libertarian

Party & VT-NORML dennylane@... / chair@... (802)

496-2387 http://vtnorml.org/MMM 802-496-2387 POB 537, Waitesfield, Vt 05673 or matt hogg

<mhogg@... (802) 865-9410. 1,000 in attendence in '02, no arrests.

Capetown: "greggoodwin" <greggoodwin@...> or "Marcus \(Home\)" <mt3825@...> 100 people, mostly Rasta's, in '02.

Charlotte: Ragan Tolbert OnThatLevel@...

Chicago: Caren Thomas, WCHDB, 2501 N. Lincoln, PMB#157; Chicago,

IL 60614; 773-381-9330 - cell - 847-344-9394 email  or 773-363-2942

chicagomarch2002@... -or- windycityhemp420@...

http://www.windycityhemp.org

Chico: 530-345-1997 <chicodank@...> or http://www.pot-party.com or adrian aguilar ode2thewalls@... (530)898-2150 or voicemail pgr 530-571-2071 Approx. 420 participants in '02.

Christchurch: Blair Anderson <blair@...> Mild Green Media Centre ph: ++64 3 389-4065 Website pages.quicksilver.net.nz/blair Newsforum news://http://www.reddfish.co.nz/alcp 500 participants in '02.

Cincinnati: the Happy Hemptress <hemptress@...> 513-684-HEMP

Cleveland: John <OCannabisSociety@...> (216)521-9333 http://www.timesoft.com/ncnorml 2,000 participants. No arrests.

Cologne: gow!Club CannaCom e.V. /redAktion: 0221 562-6347

"Vinnie" <info@...> http://www.grow.de Info booth by grow! w. JES, akzept &

VfD drew interest...

Colorado Springs: Bob Melamede <rmelamed@...> or Mstrmanic@... Stephan Ballasch Continuous presence of a few hundred people in the park in '02.

Columbus: Russ Selkirk, Sean Luse OSU-SSDP  <>osussdp@...   614-291-1026 or Ken Schweickart 614-265-VOTE <>dpeo@...  650 participants, no arrests.

Concord: (603)682-9077 nhorml@... or http://www.nhorml.org.org 30 people in '02, no cops.

Copenhagen: Klaus Tuxen hampenyt@...  http://www.hampepartiet.dk or Zid Dhartha mr_azid@...  http://www.christiania.org/ (+0045) 32 95 65 07 org: Hampepartiet ( The party For HEMP)  http://www.hampepartiet.dk address: F.H.B. hampens plads Christiania, 1407 Kbh. K.150 on march, 500 at smoke-in in '02.

Daingerfield: johnny s. chambliss  rollinxoxo@... p.o. box 484, ore city, texas 75683

Darwin: mick lambe pariahnt@... http://napnt.tripod.com 30 marchers, 35 police, but no arrests due media spotlite.

DeKalb: "Adam Timm" <itsmeuwant2c@...>

Denver: Ken Gorman 303-935-6534 or ralph@... 303-546-6125

Des Moines: iowanorml@... (515) 288-5798
iowanorml.home.mchsi.com/ http://commonlink.com/~olsen/ ,

mojo.calyx.net/~olsen/ ,  http://iowanorml.org/

http://www.druglibrary.org/olsen/index.html ; or Terry Mitchell

(515) 789-4442; 608 Dallas St., Dexter, Iowa 50070. 300 marchers, police friendly.

Detroit: "Professor Hemp" <newagecitizen@...> 313-563-3192 or "jude

joseph" acididea@... 313 438 1668

http://www.geocities.com/legalizemichigan/detroit.htm 90 to 120 participants exposed to Ibogaine message.

Dover: "Richard J. Schimelfenig" <rschimel@...> Delaware Cannabis Society c/o Richard J.

Schimelfenig, 3504 Winterhaven Drive, Newark, DE 19702, (302)

456-9402 299 demonstrators, 8,000 spectators, cops watched and did nothing in '02.

Dublin: "Butler, Philip" <phillty2@...> +353 1 4163707 or

<jday@...> http://www.cannabisireland.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group//ie-cannabis/ 1,000 people in "02.

Duesseldorf: Marlon Werkhausen <marlon@...>

http://www.gesellschaftsprobleme.de phone: 049-172-7591795.

100 participants, good atmosphere.

Durban: <ezpz.co.za> or <ezpz@...> +27 31 2016 359

PHONE AND FAX. http://www.ezpz.co.za Post net Suite 136, Private
Bag X 04, DALBRIDGE, 4014, SOUTH AFRICA Justin Ballot, 134 Clark

Road, Durban 4001, South Africa

Edinburgh: "Linda Hendry"<linda@...> UK -

0131 667-6488

Eugene: Kris Millegan <Hempsters@...> 800-556-2012

http://www.ctrl.org/mmm     600-800 folks in '02. One arrest.

Fairbanks: Timothy 907-474-9007

Feldkirch: <kontakt@...> 3. Hempfest Organized by

Legalize! ÷sterreich and Burgerinitiative Cannabis (Citizens'

Initiative Cannabis)

Flensburg: Peter Bluhm <peter-bluhm@...> phone: Irene:

04632-871771 Peter: 0461-13620

Flint: Rev. A.S."Happy" Wright <happy_hempster@...> 989

872 8005 http://www.geocities.com/legalizemichigan/flint.htm 100 participants in '02.

Ft. Lauderdale: Sean LaPierre 954-584-8979 4750 N.W. 10th Court (Apt. 314), Plantation, FL 33313 email: imagic music@...  200 participants, 500 spectators, no arrests.

Ft Wayne:  NickStreet@...  (260) 496-8542

Ft. Worth: "Chet Frank" <chet56@...> 5600 North beach St., Fort Worth TX 76137

Garberville : 707 923 4488 "Paul Encimer" <encimer@...>

Box 162, Piercy CA 95587; or "jeri" <jeri@...>

Halifax: 902 865-8606 Michael Patriquin <mpat@...>

HempWorks, 93 Orchard Dr, Middle Sackville, Nova Scotia B4E 3B3

Hamburg: Martina Katzsch <hanftv@...> ++49 40 4394493

Kulturhaus Eppendorf  about 70 people in '02.

Hayward: Rebecca Oliver  mil_mari_march@....  510.481.5349 617 grant ave, slz, ca 94580

Event Location : Hayward BART Organization : Loose Confederation of Med. Mari Users Rally @ BART station & march in the San Francisco parade, as soon as they get it together--concert? maybe.

Hearst:  "Les Neron" <lesneron@...> 1-705-362-8402  Robert Neron(Federal Exemptee)

Box:1346, Hearst Ontario P0L 1N0

Helsinki : Finnish Cannabis Association http://www.sky.org sky@... Finnish Cannabis Association,

Sorvaajankatu 9 A, 00810 Helsinki, Finland 800 participants in '02.

Hilo: Roger Christie <pakaloha@...> (808) 961-0488
http://www.thc-ministry.org 200 in '02.

Houston: Dean Farrell <fdb@...> (281)752-9198.

http://www.cultural-baggage.com c/o Dean Becker, 11215 Oak
Spring, Houston, TX 77043 Total attendance was about 5 hundred in '02. Narc infiltrators mar event.

Hull: Carl Wagner phone: +44 01482494789   5 Victoria Square,

Ella Street, Hull HU5 3AL, U.K. 3-400 on March grew to 1,000 in jam in Pearson Park. Cops backed down after threatening arrest because of media frenzy.

Huntsville: Angel Starlin 256-858-0543, cell 655-6109 or "Acorn" 256-489-2607 or <mikecrockett256@...>

1267-A jupiter court, Redstone Arsenal, AL 35808.

Indianapolis: Neal Smith, <inorml@...>, 317-335-6023

Voice Mail, 3601 N. Pennsylvania, Indianapolis, IN 46205

http://www.inorml.org 175 participants at peak in '02.

Ithaca: Adam Hirsch <ah222@...>, 111 Dryden Rd(Apt 9C),

Ithaca, NY 14850. (607) 227-0302   200 marchers in quiet protest in '02.

Jefferson City: Al Minta (417)885-3993

http://www.cannabisrevival.com/ cannabisal@... address: 1653

N. Patterson (Apt A), Springfield, MO 65803 or Columbia

NORML/Jeremy & Amanda 573-815-9821 400 participants over the day in '02.

Jerusalem: Joseph  NeedelR@... (011 972) 55-344-859

Kansas City: <mohemp@...> David 816-678-7447, 'its a

beautiful day' 3918 broadway, kansas city mo. 64111... 816 931
6169.

Kent: 330-673-3060 Matthew S. Donowick 237 1/2 E. Summit st.,
Kent, OH 44242 <TennJedJr@...> 45 people, event overshadowed by Kent remembrance in '02.

Knoxville: Aerow Albrook <sparx17@...> Matt Barker  316 Russfield Dr., Knoxville, TN  37922

Lansing: Kathy Kennedy 517-628-3915 or e-mail: "kathy kennedy"

<prohibitionx@...>
http://www.geocities.com/legalizemichigan/lansing.htm 300 participants in '02.

Leipzig: C.U. Rolf http://www.feinkost13.org tel 03412131477 or

"veejaykay" <veejaykay@...> rolfdereinzigename@...,
lxc@... j–rg klepsch, simildenstr.12, 04277

Leipzig-germany  Parade w. 1000-1500 participants and

10 loudspeaker trucks, following the route of the famous 1989

demonstrations that brought down the wall, swelling to 2000 people who braved pouring rain at main train station. One arrest.

Lexington: Gatewood Gailbrath 859-259-1522  gatewood@...

Limburg: Batlle@... (Valentin Batlle) 11.05.2002, 08:00 AM to 04:00 PM Limburg City Europaplatz M.M.M-Event with Music (Söllner, Joint Venture ...) Valentin Batlle, Hanf Aktivist

Little Rock: Jamie Collins <k_kar420@...> (501) 663-4216

1516 Fairpark Blvd., Little Rock, Ark. 72204 45 marchers at State Capitol, not one arrest.

Ljubljana: borut.delfabbro@... #352; ou-Lj,

Kersnikova 4, 1000 Ljubljana or  Mojca Štraus  mojca@... 0038641786490  Vinski vrh5a, 3240 Šmarje pri jelšah, Ljubljana, Slovenia www.konoplja.org  http://www.sou.uni-lj.si/

Rally Concert

London: International Cannabis Coalition (UK), PO Box 2243,

London, W1A 1YF, UK. Chris: 020 7637 7467. Fax: 0870 0548646. E

Mail: may2001@... http://www.cannabiscoalition.org.htm 10,000 on the march, 30,000 at the festival; no police prolems.

Los Angeles: Sister Somayah 323-232-0935 http://www.geocities.com/sistersomayah/events.htm

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sister-somayah 175 participants, S. Central.

Madison: Ben Masel <bmasel@...> weedstock.com 40 to 120 participants.

Manchester: Cannabis Coalition (Manchester), 57 Church Street,

Smithfield Buildings, Manchester, M4. Tel: 0161 834 1130. email: Gingrach@... 600 marchers in '02.

Melbourne: Kevin Aplin FL CAN (321)-726-6656. Jodi James -

Coalition Advocating Medical Marijuana 321-253-3673. 200 in parade, total media coverage; one obstruction of justice citation for filming a cop ticketing some one for an open container.

Mexico City: +5300 5774 email: helmcke@... or volgn@... or"Tato"  foigras2002@... "Camello"  cosmocamello@...  "Asoc. Mexicana de Estudios Sobre el Cannabis" <amecamexico@...> Leopoldo Rivera

Rivera/AsociaciÛn Mexicana de Estudios sobre el Cannabis,

Amapola # 35, col. Jardines del Molinito, Naucalpan, Estado de
MÈxico. CP. 53530 MEXICO or Adolfo Prieto 1003, Col. del Valle,

C.P. 03100, Mexico, D.F. or Samuel Martínez Ramírez

Av. Azcapotzalco #193-4 Col. Clavería Mexico D.F.
 www.vivecondrogas.com, www.amecamexico.org, www.hemp.com.mx Almost 300 people in '02.

Miami: Glenn Allen, 42c s.e.12th st. Dania, Fl 33004, 954-929-7025 aka "Nelg Nella" <spacehippie@...>  A smoke out/drum circle in Peacock Park with lots of good bud.

Milwaukee: "Dominic Salmaan" <cannabisliberation@...>

414-469-0899. 1525 E. Royall (Apt # 14), Milw., WI 563202. Over 100 people marched for 3 1/2 hrs. in '02. No police problems.

Minneapolis: Grassroots Party or Chris Wright <TCW@...> 612-522-5374. 400 folks, no arrests in '02.

Missoula: Angela Goodhope <sisterearth420@...> (406) 829-1703 Approx. 420 participants in '02.

Montpelier: Rama Schneider <2001@...> (802) 433-5441

address: 1614 Gilbert Road, Williamstown, VT 05679

http://www.ramabahama.net Several people handed out literature in '02.

 
Montreal: Marc-Boris St-Maurice <blocpot@...>

(514)528.1768 3,000 marched 4 1/2 miles; no cops in '02.

Moscow: http://www.cures.by.ru  d-form@...

Nashville: "Howie & Marivuana Leinoff" <torml@...> <mailto:marivuana@...>or marivuana@... (615)ACT-HIGH. <http://www.marivuana.com>http://www.marivuana.com <>http://www.punkenstein.com  150 marchers, no arrests; first tv coverage in '02.

Norfolk:

Newark: "Richard J. Schimelfenig" <rschimel@...> Delaware Cannabis Society c/o Richard J.

Schimelfenig, 3504 Winterhaven Drive, Newark, DE 19702, (302) 456-9402

New Orleans : Daisy 504-957-HERB hemp.rox.com    email:<NewOrleansMarch@...>

New Paltz: newpaltznorml@... NORML / SSDP PO Box 775, New

Paltz, NY 12561 500 marchers, well over 2,000 at concert in '02.

New York City: Dana 212-677-7180 <dana@...> 7,000 participants in '02. 148 arrests.

Nimbin: Max Stone of the Australian Cannabis Law Reform

Movement" aclrm@... ph: 61 0266 891842

http://www.nimbinaustralia.com http://www.bigbongburgerbar.com/webshow/ 24,000 participants in '02. No arrests.

Normal:  Nearly  1,000 participants in '02. Zach Thomas and Miriam Sterlin, Mobilizing Activists and Students for Hemp (MASH)   Phone # :    309-275-6112/309-2756110 http://www.mashaction.org e-mail:  mash@...

Nuernberg: Emanuel Kotzian  phone: 0049-(0) 172- 818 217 8  agentur sowjet - info@... -  450 people marched in the rain in '02.

Oberlin: Patty Hallman <sbysc@...> (440)774-4544) c/o

Stitch by Stitch & Curiousities, 31 South Main Street, Oberlin,

OH 44074
 
Omaha: Paul Tripp, paultrip@..., (402)598-6180 12216 Poppleton Plz. #238, Omaha, NE, 68144   Over 30 participants in '02.

Orlando: Kacie Grange Hiphiplady32@... (407)895-3492

Oslo: <mmm@...> normal.no/mmm Torkel Bj¯rnson, NORMAL,

Hjelmsgt 3, N0-0158 Oslo, Norway 3000+ participants. No arrests.

Ottawa: "deadmanseedco" <deadmanseedco@...> 613-749-3014

Don Appleby or Rick Reimer at 613-756-2961 or Rob Brown at

613-756-5892 Crowds in the hundreds, almost no arrests.

Paducah: Paula (270)362-9849 <pioneer@...>, Cher

Ford-McCullough <bitchcrafts@...> 65 Cabin Lane,

Gilbertsvile, Ky. 42044 or Brian McCullough

< bpmc@...> (270) 362-8186 50 marchers, 90 at rally, one undercover in '02.

Paradise: Virgil Hales 530-877-5814

Paris: FARId GHEHIOUECHE 06 148 156 79  farid@... or CAM-RD 9, passage Dagorno 75020 PARIS

Tel : 00 33 (1) 40 09 69 75 Fax : 00 33 (1) 44 93 93 57

Like in 2001 and 2002, for MMM 2003 there will be rallies around France (Montpellier, Lyon, Rennes, Marseille, Lille, Annecy,...) and in Paris, the nation wide gathering in Bastille place 3:00 PM.

Parkersburg: "Cindy Wimer" <indianbud@...> "Mountaineers for Medical Marijuana" 304-428-1726

Patterson: David Germolus 209-892-6640  angelwater260@...  420 hoffman ct.,  Patterson, california

Philadelphia: <phillyweed420@...> or "chuck palmer"

<chuckp@...> 610-279-6358  100 participants, no arrests in '02.

Phoenix: donovan criss  doncriss@... 602-486-6145 1635 w. grovers av. phoenix,az 85023 or rex 602-618-4521 2222 w beardsly rd #1119 phoenix,az 85027

 
Pilsen: http://www.exist.cz "pavla kozakova" <exist@...>

200 people and one sound system in central park in '02. No arrests.

Pittsburg:

Pordenone: Anna Cavezzali & Ivan Romano <lallice@...>, Via Firenze 5, 33080 Porcia, PN, Italy

++3282488420 ++43428098

Portland: (503) 239-6110 MMM 2002 Committee c/o Oregon NORML

(OrNORML) http://www.ornorml.org PO Box 86443, Portland, OR
97286 Madeline Martinez yerbanena@... or Steven M.

Cooper Volunteer Coordinator ornorml.volunteer@...  Grew from 200 people, no arrests.

Prague: Michael "xChaos" Polak <xchaos@...> Tel: +420 603 872631 / +420 2 33358050  http://www.legalizace.cz 1-2,000 participants in '02, with hundreds more in nearby park. No marijuana related arrests in Prague (police just arrested offender, who broke police car window, but this was after MMM officially ended).

Providence:  Tom <psilocyberspore@...> (401) 737-7057  http://members.cox.net/psilocyberspore Just 6 people in '02.

Raleigh-Durham: Bryan T. Moore <btm42@...> 614 Carolina

Ave. Raleigh, NC 27606-1606 (919) 816-0609 or "Jeff Badalucco"
<nc_ca@...> (919)834-2816 238 Pecan St., Raleigh, NC

27603 200 souls braved pouring rain in '02. Capitol cops well-behaved, but city cops tried to intimidate.

Rapid City: Bob Newland <newland@...> 877-687-5297,
605-255-4032 website: http://www.sodaknorml.org/  300 marchers in '02.

Reno: Michelle 775-287-1594

Richmond: "Roy B. Scherer" <rscherer@...> (804)

355-7612, or campus libs at <Huclberie1@....> About 100 attendees; march was 4 miles.

Rio de Janeiro: +55 - 21 - 9885 9162 mmmbr2002@... or  "Luiz Paulo" <lpgb@...> 500 participants in '02.

Rome: "Segreteria Forte Prenestino" <segreteria@...> or Michela Gesualdo

<mgesuald@ilmanifesto> 10-15,000 participants in '02.

Rosario: +54 - 341-4201291 or +54 - 341- 4642699 E-mail: raddud@... Corrientes 1307, 2000 - Rosario- ARGENTINA Nearly 400 participants in '02.

 

Salem: 503.363-4588 Medical Cannabis Resource Center, 1695 Fairgrounds Rd.,Salem, Oregon   97303

<mailto:MercyCenter@...>MercyCenter@... March and Rally plans TBA-- probably high noon around state capital building

 

Salt Lake City: Dr. Ken Larsen (801) 533-8658 <kencan@...> 856

E. 100th St. South (#2), Salt Lake City, UT 84102 or Andy

Morrill (801)334-8122 <rambis4@...> http://www.thc2002.org

http://www.personalchoice.org A. Reed Morrill, 1663 Historic

25th Street,Ogden, Utah 84401 300 noisy marchers, no arrests.

San Diego: San Diego A.C.T. (Association for Cannabis

Therapeutics) c/o T.Villodas,901"F"street#413,San Diego,

Ca.92101 email: Ed zepplin <edzepp@...> or Donna 619-302

3041 or 619-223-1050 (land line) 619-302-3041 (mobile)

http://www.cannabisfreedom.org Approximately 50-75 attendees.

NO POLICE! NO PROBLEMS!

San Francisco: Hemp Evolution/Clark Sullivan "freeman sullivan" <feemansulllivan@...> or c.libertine@... or LAMPS 415-487-0561 4,000 participants in '02, no arrests.

Santa Clara: "Lisa" <angelisa51@...>

San Marcos: Joe Ptak: 512.754.0264 Email:

earthfirstswt@... Postal: 213 Ramsay St.; #107, San

Marcos, TX; 78666

Santa Cruz: DdC <dendecannabist@...> or Jason Brodsky

<theherbalist@...> or Bryan Gilstein
<shelbyrose7@...> (831-502-3865) Bryan Gilstein, UCSC, 600

Kresge Ct, Santa Cruz CA 95064 discussion list:

SCMJMarch@...  400 participants, no arrests.

Sao Paulo: Victor maolvni@... 30620225  rua tirica 345 Cabeca: podiscreuza@... : 35678903: rua japao 876 maolvni@... About 600 people .. There was no use and no

possession of marijuana so the cops couldn´t do anything.

Seminole: semptest5@... "http://www.angelfire.com/fl3/fl3touring/stpete.html"

Sioux City: clint boatman <clint815@...>    5305 Stone Ave, Sioux City, Ia 51106

Sioux Falls:  Bob Newland <newland@...> 877-687-5297,

605-255-4032 website: http://www.sodaknorml.org/

Sofia: Chris Pantchev Xpu100 <hri100@...>

Soltau: Sven <vandreike@...>, 05191-975296

50 people, one police activity.

Springfield: Joe Setzer (417) 877-6832 <theosopher420@...>137 Hackberry Lane,  Seymour, MO 65746

St. Louis: 314-567-8522 <gstlnorml@...> or St. Louis Area NORML , PO Box 220243,

St. Louis, MO 63122.   http://www.mo-norml.org 600 marched to the Arch for cannabis reform.

Stuart: "chad cooke" <chadcooke50@...>  chad cooke 561-213-7307 719-a northview drive,

jupiter,florida. 33458

Thunder Bay: Doug Thompson <docclone@...> 807-475-7436 75 participants, no cops, no media.

Tampa: Anthony154154@... Anthony Lorenzo 1-888-210-0425 toll free pager Over 100 participants in '02.

Tel Aviv: Boaz Wachtel -- wachtel@... Tel:972-54-573679

http://www.ale-yarok.org.il PO Box 2983, Even Yehuda, 40500

Israel  -- 4,000 participants in '02.

Tokyo: Takao Bakuya (Cannabist) info@... +81-3-3706-6885 http://www.cannabist.org 800 participants in '02.

Toronto: Larry Duprey (416)540-7829 fax(416)242-2635 or Toronto Area Association / Marijuana Party of Canada, 132 Dundas St. East, Toronto,On M5B 1E2 (416)367-3459  3-6,000 participants in '02

<http://www.canadiancannabisawards.ca>www.canadiancannabisawards.ca

<http://www.cannabisclub.ca>www.cannabisclub.ca

Traverse City: Melody Karr <fiddlefoot420@...>

(231)885-2993 PO Box 524 Mesick, MI 49668. or 10954 Birch Road

Mesick MI 49668. 70 marchers, hundreds of spectators in '02.

http://www.geocities.com/legalizemichigan/traversecity.htm

Trondheim: <mmm@...> normal.no/mmm Line Arstad, NORMAL,

Hjelmsgt 3, N0-0355 Oslo, Norway 200 participants in '02.

Tucson: mary mackenzie <mmackenzie2@...> (520)323-2947 http://www.hometown.aol.com/marcher420/myhomepage/pepe.html or 3400 east speedway, #118, tucson, arizona 85716 Over 200 participants in '02.

Turku: Vihreet Pantterit http://www.vihreetpantterit.org info@... 300 participants in '02. 10 counter-demonstrators.

Ukiah: Verge Belanger "v belanger" <contactverge@...>

Tommy Gunn, 528 North State St. #1, Ukiah, Ca. 95482 300 participants in '02.

Upper Lake, Ca.: Linda & Eddy Lepp"linda senti"

<lisenti@...> 707-275-8879 Signed up 131 new patients in '02.

Vancouver: David Malmo-Levine, <dagreenmachine@...> BC

Marijuana Party Bookstore and Internet Broadcasting Center, 307

West Hastings Tel. 604 682-1172 http://www.cannabisculture.com 2,000 marchers in '02.

Vermilion: Sonny Morris 967-6069 sonny44089@...  309 devonshire More than 100 people partied in the park, no problems in '02.

Vienna: 5. Hanffeuer, Bushdoctor <martin@...>

http://www.bushdoctor.at Phone: +43 (01) 524 04 40, Fax: +43

(01) 524 04 24, Kirchengasse 19, A-1070, Vienna, Austria"

Walton: Dave Baughman 620-837-4496 <Davyblues1@...>

http://www.kan-sativa.com 124 S. Walton Ave., Walton, Kansas

67151 Around 50 participants in '02.

Warszawa, mazowsze:  Adam Wojtasiewicz  aw@... +48503692715 ul. Mickiewicza 72/15 01-650 Warszawa Poland

Washington, D.C.:Toni Keane <taporter84@...> http://violate_wave.tripod.com/MMM.html

Wellington Ben Knight <Legalise@...> NORML NZ , PO

Box 27-315, Wellington +64 25 377509 http://www.norml.org.nz

Wichita: Debby Moore, CEOHemp Industries of Kansas 2742 E. 2nd Wichita, Kansas, 67214  (316) 681 1743 debby@... Website:  http://www.hempforus.com Last year about thrity people met and marched through downtown Wichita. I will plan a cookout with speakers, but

will certainly discourage any smoking of the herb cannabis.

Winnepeg: Chris Buors, <chris_buors@...> mail to 430

Winterton ave, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada R2K 1K4 500 rallied at the Parliament Bldg in '02.

Winston-Salem: Queen Selassie (336) 661-0684 4469 Indiana Ave,

Winston-Salem, N.C. 27105 25 people stood under a pavilion in the rain.

Worcester: C.J. & Judi Bunn, 413-245-3675 #9 Maybrook Rd,
Holland, MA 01521 More than 100 people, no problems, in '02.

Zurich: Swiss Hanf Koordination Sekretariat + 41-31-398-144

<infor@...>  Barbecue-Party in the Culture Centre in Seebach/Zurich

CHanf++ GmbH, Zweierstrasse 124, CH-8003 Zürich

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We are still taking submissions for our final design for next year's poster--and we are establishing a VIRTUAL POSTER GALLERY to give every city who can print locally a choice.

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If you want to be moved above this line and listed for next year, just let us know.

If you want to help bring them up to critical mass, just contact them.

***!!!MMM2002 Cities Not Yet Confirmed for Global Cannabis March 2003!!!***

Anchorage: Scot Dunnachie 907-278-4367 <freehempinak@...>

2603 Spenard Rd, Anchorage, AK 99503 http://www.freehempinak.org

Ashland: "Amber Leiter" <amleiter@...>

419-289-8810 , Amber Leiter, 165 Ronald Ave. Apt. I, Ashland,

Ohio 419-207-8834

Augusta: Roger Leisner/Radio Free Maine.
<rleisner04330@...> http://www.radiofreemaine.com

Bologna: mar. million march / association livello 57 ++39

051-271066<m4s@...> Via Muggia #9, 40100 Bologna

http://www.radiocentrale.it or http://www.radiogap.net

Calgary: Ken Kirk e-mail: marijuanaparty.ofalberta@...

780-430-8440

Carbondale: Liz Strebe 618-351-0397 202 E. College (Apt 1), Carbondale, IL 62901

Charleston:  Amanda Kushner Amanda2bad@... 304-746-0777   969 Jarrell Dr., Charleston, wv 25312 Rally Concert

Chesapeake: Barbra 373-9027  bkquamen@... Chesapeake, Virginia

Dallas: Fletch 214-566-2460 <phletch41@...> 6008 E.

Mockingbird Lane, Dallas, Tx. 75206 60 or so marchers in '02.

Dauphin: Shroom menace217@... Dauphin, Manitoba Smoke-in, followed by walk to support legalization

Duisburg: Dirk &Co <cafe-zentral@...>

Dunedin: Duncan Eddy <duncaneddy@...> NORML NZ, phone:

027 4719 139 200 tokers on the Octagon in '02.

Eaton: Andy Fudge fudgeie@... 210 eaton lewisburg rd apt#61 Rally 12 noon -- lots of kick ass specialties

Edmonton, Alberta: Ken Kirk e-mail:

marijuanaparty.ofalberta@... 780-430-8440 or "Ross Z"

<ganja_23@...>

Ellwangen: Sven Semmler <sven@...>

Fairbanks, Alaska: Frank Turney 907-452-3777 or Chuck Rollins

Jr. <chuck@...>

Frankenthal: helmut holtzheimer <movemus@...>

Freiburg: <info@...>, http://www.drogenpolitik.org

Verein fuer Drogenpolitik e.V. Info stall from 11:00h-17:00h.

corner Kaiser-Joseph-Strasse - Schiffstrasse

Fresno: Glass Packers <glasspackers@...> Eric Burns

Hamilton: Contact aksh1@... 50 participants, 4 questioned and released without charges.

Homer, Alaska - contact Julie Cesarini, P.O. Box 812, Homer AK

99603, 907 235-6040.

Jacksonville: James Johnson  (904)245-2876  chefboyrdee69@...    659 Apeberry Lane, Jacksonville, Florida

Johannesburg: Gordon Maene <Gordon@...> work: (

011)805 6763 cell phone: 082 552 6393

Juneau: contact  Brad Parfitt latebrad@...

Kelowna, B.C.: Teresa Taylor, CCC <luna@...>

taylor1.virtualave.net (250) 442-2741 or (250) 442-5166 Fax
(250) 442-5167 or Amanda/hempshop (250)770-8171

Kailua-Kona: Gretel Zapata of Free Mary Jane

<freemaryjanehawaii@...> Tel# 808.328.9251 voice#

808.331.5418 81-1085c Capt. Cook RD Capt. Cook HI 96726 or PO

box 746 Honaunau HI

Krakow: Marek Warmuz (+48)501-468-018 "quepassa"

<quepassa@...>

Ladysmith: Terry & Wendy, (250)-245-3595, <tandwp1@...>

Las Vegas: Ray Facundo <raybones80@...>, 1750 Santa
Margarita, Apt 122, Las Vegas, NV 89146 (702)-222-3560

Leadville: Ken Cary (719-486-2215. 114 W 6th # 9, Leadville, CO

80461

Lille: FARId GHEHIOUECHE <gfarid@...> Tel/fax : 01 44 93 93

57; Mobile: 06 14 81 56 79

Liverpool: Will Graham <willg@...> tel (inc.

international code): 0044 151 727 1458

Luxemburg (LU) <info@...>, Tel: 00352 26 53 08 95,

http://www.act4cannabis.lu/ They are planning a press conference

and handing out leaflets. Mailing address:LIFE, 53, Val des

Aulnes, L-3811 Schifflange

Lyon: FARId GHEHIOUECHE <gfarid@...> Tel/fax : 01 44 93 93
57; Mobile: 06 14 81 56 79   Location:   14h Croix Rousse Place

Marburg: Gr¸ne Hilfe Hessen, c/o Jo, Tel/Fax: 06631/801512

Location: Cafe Am Gr¸n 70 guests attended.

Marseilles: FARId GHEHIOUECHE <gfarid@...> Tel/fax : 01 44 93 93

57; Mobile: 06 14 81 56 79

Memphis: Lanie 731-855-7527

Montpellier at Le Bikini Location: 16h Comedie Place

Munich: mmm-muenchen@...

Nantes: FARId GHEHIOUECHE <gfarid@...> Tel/fax : 01 44 93 93
57; Mobile: 06 14 81 56 79

Napa: Bruce Trask 707-253-9295 1020 Soscol Ferry Rd, Napa, CA

94558

New Haven: Lucas Davenport <hardreboot@...> 203-752-2462

Palm Springs: Lanny Swerdlow mappnow@... or

<marijuanamarch@...> pager: 760-836-8166; ph:

760-799-2055.

Recklinghausen: Jossi <janjos@...>

Regina: Daniel Johnson <amduscias@...>

normlsask.cjb.net/

Rennes at l'Ubu. Jean Charles PETITJEAN, BARACANNA (COCAR), 105,

rue St HÈlier, 35000 Rennes. TÈl : 33 (0)2 23 35 15 69 Fax : 33

(0)2 23 35 01 33 E-Mail : baracanna@... SIRET : 432

785 822 00029 APE : 913 E ouvert mercredi de 14h30 ý 19h30

jeudi, vendredi et samedi de 10h ý 20h They will offer hemp

seeds to people at a rally in front of the mayor's house.

San Juan: Christian Fernandez <c_fernh@...> Box 839

Gurabo, PR 00778

San Luis Obispo: "Rusty Stuart" <nzane@...> 1722 Nacimiento

Lake Dr, Paso Robles, CA 93446 805-237-7303 or 805-237-7306 And

Jo-D: 805.937.0034

Saskatoon: Jeremiah Whipp (306)230-0951 -- 1800 Main St (Apt

42), Saskatoon, Sask. S7H4B3.

Stafford: Simon  wrxmanuk@... +447816485762  Concert @ stafford town square

Stockton: mikaela/free the weed  912-884-6144 veganarchy16@... veganarchy16@... http://www.hipforums.com 322 lake dr, stockton, california

Stuttgart: <info@...>,

http://www.drogenpolitik.org Verein fuer Drogenpolitik e.V. Info

stall from 11:00h-17:00h. corner K–nigstrasse / B¸chsenstrasse

Tallahassee: (850)321-8311 ask for Matt <fsunorml@...>

Ricky Bradford FSU NORML c/o Oglesby, Union Student Activities

Office, FL 32306

Taos: Danielle Romero (505)770-5260 or Joanne Foreman

<jofo@...> 505-751-1102

Vega Alta: jose a hernandez <josefaruk1@...> location Park

Recreativo. Que Viva La Musica Coqui Coqui.

Vilnius: "Andrius Brazas" <brazhas@...>

http://www.hardcore 370 98 84714

Wolfenbuttel: <solid-wf@...> Info booth by ['solid] popular.

Yellow Springs: Devon Ronaldson <soulrebel@...> 937 769

1764 c/o Student mailr oom, 795 livermore st., yellow springs OH

45387

Zagreb: "Sergio Stifanic" <fine_time909@...> GALOVICEVA

10, 10000 ZAGREB Phone: ++385 1 2330667                

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From: eco man <tents444@...>

Subject: Please subscribe to new MMM email list. Public archive still

open.

Please subscribe to new MMM email list. Public archive still open.

The public MMM email list at Yahoo Groups now requires people to subscribe

in order to post messages to the list and the public archive. For a few

weeks I set it up so that non-members could also send in email messages to

the list. That was to help people send in MMM rally reports. It worked.

The archive also got some spam too. That was deleted. But people should

keep sending in MMM-related stuff. Just subscribe first.

The MMM message archive itself is still public and accessible to anybody:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cannabisaction

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reform events are covered, too. Email list public archive for event info,

ideas, MMM 2002 rally reports, photo attachments, links, HTML web pages,

etc.. Also, Dana Beal's most recent messages include the latest,

continually-revised, compilation of MMM 2003 cities, contacts, and rally

info. After subscribing to this Yahoo Group email list, please use

cannabisaction@yahoogroups.com  for sending in messages. On the homepage
there are links to archived messages, and to web pages with even more MMM

links, info, and rally report compilations online. Homepage:

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