you in my prayers let as know what happens Mary

--- In migraineswithepilepsy@yahoogroups.com, "einsteins_inspiration"
<einsteins_inspiration@y...> wrote:
> Hi, Karin. Unfortunately, I am manic-depressive and tricyclics are
> notorious for swinging us into manic episodes, so that is not an
> option for me. However, after a long search I'm on an
antidepressant
> that works for my depression, Effexor. I noticed that when I was
> started on it that both my seizures and migraines became more
intense
> and frequent. Is it just a coincidence or is it the Effexor?
> Considering the timing it's hard not to blame the Effexor, but it's
> the only antidepressant that's worked for me and it got me out of a
> suicidal depression, so I'm really loath to experiment with it.
>
> I was on Remeron for a short time, and it did make me very relaxed
> but I don't remember how it affected my headaches (if I even took
> time to notice). Wellbutrin was very bad for my seizures (it's
well
> known for lowering the seiure threshold in people with a history of
> seizures). It made my seizures happen non-stop one after the other.
I
> was on Lamictal for a couple of years (they use it in manic-
> depressives as a substitute for antidepressants), but I was never
on
> a dose large enough to cause me headaches or even help my seizures.
I
> took my final dose of it last night. There's no way I can ever
take
> Depakote. I was on it for over a year and it made me very ill.
They
> use it not only for seizures but also for migraines and manic-
> depression. It would be a magic pill for me, but it makes me very
> sick as well as clinically depressed. Definitely no toleration.
>
> Across the counter medications do nothing for me, and the ones with
> caffeine make me anxious--nervousness with a migraine is more than
I
> can take.
>
> I'll look into the supplements you suggested. Thanks. Thanks also
> for the other suggestions, though I'm not able to pursue them. I'm
> sure that if the Cardizem doesn't help me more that my neurologist
> will try something else.
>
> Mark
>
> --- In migraineswithepilepsy@yahoogroups.com, Karin Schacht
> <karinschacht@e...> wrote:
> > hi mark~
> >
> >
> > Are you able to take or tolerate an additional med like an
> > anti-depressant? I wonder if something like one of the tricyclics
> would
> > help with some of your other migraine symptoms.
> > Although a higher dose of remeon made my siezure problems worse,
> the
> > remeron in general helped with many of the other migraine
symptoms
> you
> > mentioned- nausea, sensitivity,etc.. Can you do an adjunct
> > anti-convulsant? Have you tried Neurontin yet? I would like to go
> back
> > on that because i had a lot less migraines on it than now,even
> though i
> > was on a fairly low dose. I was taken off that to go on topomax
> (didn't
> > tolerate) then lamictal (recently started and sure enough I have
a
> > headache:o() - these for the seizure activity.
> >
> > I found my migraines also started when I got my first complex
> partial,
> > at age 13. My mothers side of her family has migraines.
> >
> > Right now I im in a medication limbo-land, trying to get off
> remeron
> > for other reasons but trying to find another good subsitute and a
> > tolerable anti-convulsant. I notice my migraine problems
worsening
> (or
> > really going back to the way they used to be) as I get lower and
> lower
> > on my remeron dosage.
> >
> > Two things I have found helpful somewhat (as a preventative but
> I've
> > read of some using these to abort a migraine) is
> magnesium..chelated
> > magnesium in a pill form, and WaterOz (an aqueous magnesium
product
> > that you can order online), which has been pretty good..up until
i
> > started this lamictal :0(.
> >
> > I hope you can work with your drs to come up with something that
> will
> > stop your frequent migraines... out of all the meds i've tried,
the
> > neurontin and the remeron have helped me the most...
> >
> > best of luck in finding something helpful!!
> >
> > karin