Vi--

Actually, I just looked up verapamil on the internet and it's not a
mood stabilizer but is a calcium channel blocker. Cardizem, which I'm
on, is the same class of drug. If it turns out to not work well
enough I'll bring verapamil up to my neuro. Thanks.

Mark

--- In migraineswithepilepsy@yahoogroups.com, "einsteins_inspiration"
<einsteins_inspiration@y...> wrote:
> Hi. I've heard of verapamil but I've never used it. I'm on
lithium
> as a mood stabilizer, but if I ever change I'll keep verapamil in
> mind. Thanks for the tip.
>
> Mark
>
> --- In migraineswithepilepsy@yahoogroups.com, Violet
> <violetflame11@y...> wrote:
> > I use verapamil to control migraines, and I believe
> > that it is also used to treat manic depression. Have
> > you tried this? I use it with Neurontin.
> > Vi
> > --- einsteins_inspiration
> > <einsteins_inspiration@y...> wrote:
> > > Hi, Karin. Unfortunately, I am manic-depressive and
> > > tricyclics are
> > > notorious for swinging us into manic episodes, so
> > > that is not an
> > > option for me. However, after a long search I'm on
> > > an antidepressant
> > > that works for my depression, Effexor. I noticed
> > > that when I was
> > > started on it that both my seizures and migraines
> > > became more intense
> > > and frequent. Is it just a coincidence or is it the
> > > Effexor?
> > > Considering the timing it's hard not to blame the
> > > Effexor, but it's
> > > the only antidepressant that's worked for me and it
> > > got me out of a
> > > suicidal depression, so I'm really loath to
> > > experiment with it.
> > >
> > > I was on Remeron for a short time, and it did make
> > > me very relaxed
> > > but I don't remember how it affected my headaches
> > > (if I even took
> > > time to notice). Wellbutrin was very bad for my
> > > seizures (it's well
> > > known for lowering the seiure threshold in people
> > > with a history of
> > > seizures). It made my seizures happen non-stop one
> > > after the other. I
> > > was on Lamictal for a couple of years (they use it
> > > in manic-
> > > depressives as a substitute for antidepressants),
> > > but I was never on
> > > a dose large enough to cause me headaches or even
> > > help my seizures. I
> > > took my final dose of it last night. There's no way
> > > I can ever take
> > > Depakote. I was on it for over a year and it made
> > > me very ill. They
> > > use it not only for seizures but also for migraines
> > > and manic-
> > > depression. It would be a magic pill for me, but it
> > > makes me very
> > > sick as well as clinically depressed. Definitely no
> > > toleration.
> > >
> > > Across the counter medications do nothing for me,
> > > and the ones with
> > > caffeine make me anxious--nervousness with a
> > > migraine is more than I
> > > can take.
> > >
> > > I'll look into the supplements you suggested.
> > > Thanks. Thanks also
> > > for the other suggestions, though I'm not able to
> > > pursue them. I'm
> > > sure that if the Cardizem doesn't help me more that
> > > my neurologist
> > > will try something else.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > --- In migraineswithepilepsy@yahoogroups.com, Karin
> > > Schacht
> > > <karinschacht@e...> wrote:
> > > > hi mark~
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Are you able to take or tolerate an additional med
> > > like an
> > > > anti-depressant? I wonder if something like one of
> > > the tricyclics
> > > would
> > > > help with some of your other migraine symptoms.
> > > > Although a higher dose of remeon made my siezure
> > > problems worse,
> > > the
> > > > remeron in general helped with many of the other
> > > migraine symptoms
> > > you
> > > > mentioned- nausea, sensitivity,etc.. Can you do an
> > > adjunct
> > > > anti-convulsant? Have you tried Neurontin yet? I
> > > would like to go
> > > back
> > > > on that because i had a lot less migraines on it
> > > than now,even
> > > though i
> > > > was on a fairly low dose. I was taken off that to
> > > go on topomax
> > > (didn't
> > > > tolerate) then lamictal (recently started and sure
> > > enough I have a
> > > > headache:o() - these for the seizure activity.
> > > >
> > > > I found my migraines also started when I got my
> > > first complex
> > > partial,
> > > > at age 13. My mothers side of her family has
> > > migraines.
> > > >
> > > > Right now I im in a medication limbo-land, trying
> > > to get off
> > > remeron
> > > > for other reasons but trying to find another good
> > > subsitute and a
> > > > tolerable anti-convulsant. I notice my migraine
> > > problems worsening
> > > (or
> > > > really going back to the way they used to be) as I
> > > get lower and
> > > lower
> > > > on my remeron dosage.
> > > >
> > > > Two things I have found helpful somewhat (as a
> > > preventative but
> > > I've
> > > > read of some using these to abort a migraine) is
> > > magnesium..chelated
> > > > magnesium in a pill form, and WaterOz (an aqueous
> > > magnesium product
> > > > that you can order online), which has been pretty
> > > good..up until i
> > > > started this lamictal :0(.
> > > >
> > > > I hope you can work with your drs to come up with
> > > something that
> > > will
> > > > stop your frequent migraines... out of all the
> > > meds i've tried, the
> > > > neurontin and the remeron have helped me the
> > > most...
> > > >
> > > > best of luck in finding something helpful!!
> > > >
> > > > karin
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > =====
> >
> > Violet
> >
> >
> >
> >
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