Hi. I've heard of verapamil but I've never used it. I'm on lithium
as a mood stabilizer, but if I ever change I'll keep verapamil in
mind. Thanks for the tip.

Mark

--- In migraineswithepilepsy@yahoogroups.com, Violet
<violetflame11@y...> wrote:
> I use verapamil to control migraines, and I believe
> that it is also used to treat manic depression. Have
> you tried this? I use it with Neurontin.
> Vi
> --- einsteins_inspiration
> <einsteins_inspiration@y...> wrote:
> > Hi, Karin. Unfortunately, I am manic-depressive and
> > tricyclics are
> > notorious for swinging us into manic episodes, so
> > that is not an
> > option for me. However, after a long search I'm on
> > an antidepressant
> > that works for my depression, Effexor. I noticed
> > that when I was
> > started on it that both my seizures and migraines
> > became more intense
> > and frequent. Is it just a coincidence or is it the
> > Effexor?
> > Considering the timing it's hard not to blame the
> > Effexor, but it's
> > the only antidepressant that's worked for me and it
> > got me out of a
> > suicidal depression, so I'm really loath to
> > experiment with it.
> >
> > I was on Remeron for a short time, and it did make
> > me very relaxed
> > but I don't remember how it affected my headaches
> > (if I even took
> > time to notice). Wellbutrin was very bad for my
> > seizures (it's well
> > known for lowering the seiure threshold in people
> > with a history of
> > seizures). It made my seizures happen non-stop one
> > after the other. I
> > was on Lamictal for a couple of years (they use it
> > in manic-
> > depressives as a substitute for antidepressants),
> > but I was never on
> > a dose large enough to cause me headaches or even
> > help my seizures. I
> > took my final dose of it last night. There's no way
> > I can ever take
> > Depakote. I was on it for over a year and it made
> > me very ill. They
> > use it not only for seizures but also for migraines
> > and manic-
> > depression. It would be a magic pill for me, but it
> > makes me very
> > sick as well as clinically depressed. Definitely no
> > toleration.
> >
> > Across the counter medications do nothing for me,
> > and the ones with
> > caffeine make me anxious--nervousness with a
> > migraine is more than I
> > can take.
> >
> > I'll look into the supplements you suggested.
> > Thanks. Thanks also
> > for the other suggestions, though I'm not able to
> > pursue them. I'm
> > sure that if the Cardizem doesn't help me more that
> > my neurologist
> > will try something else.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > --- In migraineswithepilepsy@yahoogroups.com, Karin
> > Schacht
> > <karinschacht@e...> wrote:
> > > hi mark~
> > >
> > >
> > > Are you able to take or tolerate an additional med
> > like an
> > > anti-depressant? I wonder if something like one of
> > the tricyclics
> > would
> > > help with some of your other migraine symptoms.
> > > Although a higher dose of remeon made my siezure
> > problems worse,
> > the
> > > remeron in general helped with many of the other
> > migraine symptoms
> > you
> > > mentioned- nausea, sensitivity,etc.. Can you do an
> > adjunct
> > > anti-convulsant? Have you tried Neurontin yet? I
> > would like to go
> > back
> > > on that because i had a lot less migraines on it
> > than now,even
> > though i
> > > was on a fairly low dose. I was taken off that to
> > go on topomax
> > (didn't
> > > tolerate) then lamictal (recently started and sure
> > enough I have a
> > > headache:o() - these for the seizure activity.
> > >
> > > I found my migraines also started when I got my
> > first complex
> > partial,
> > > at age 13. My mothers side of her family has
> > migraines.
> > >
> > > Right now I im in a medication limbo-land, trying
> > to get off
> > remeron
> > > for other reasons but trying to find another good
> > subsitute and a
> > > tolerable anti-convulsant. I notice my migraine
> > problems worsening
> > (or
> > > really going back to the way they used to be) as I
> > get lower and
> > lower
> > > on my remeron dosage.
> > >
> > > Two things I have found helpful somewhat (as a
> > preventative but
> > I've
> > > read of some using these to abort a migraine) is
> > magnesium..chelated
> > > magnesium in a pill form, and WaterOz (an aqueous
> > magnesium product
> > > that you can order online), which has been pretty
> > good..up until i
> > > started this lamictal :0(.
> > >
> > > I hope you can work with your drs to come up with
> > something that
> > will
> > > stop your frequent migraines... out of all the
> > meds i've tried, the
> > > neurontin and the remeron have helped me the
> > most...
> > >
> > > best of luck in finding something helpful!!
> > >
> > > karin
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> =====
>
> Violet
>
>
>
>
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