I use verapamil to control migraines, and I believe
that it is also used to treat manic depression. Have
you tried this? I use it with Neurontin.
Vi
--- einsteins_inspiration
<einsteins_inspiration@...> wrote:
> Hi, Karin. Unfortunately, I am manic-depressive and
> tricyclics are
> notorious for swinging us into manic episodes, so
> that is not an
> option for me. However, after a long search I'm on
> an antidepressant
> that works for my depression, Effexor. I noticed
> that when I was
> started on it that both my seizures and migraines
> became more intense
> and frequent. Is it just a coincidence or is it the
> Effexor?
> Considering the timing it's hard not to blame the
> Effexor, but it's
> the only antidepressant that's worked for me and it
> got me out of a
> suicidal depression, so I'm really loath to
> experiment with it.
>
> I was on Remeron for a short time, and it did make
> me very relaxed
> but I don't remember how it affected my headaches
> (if I even took
> time to notice). Wellbutrin was very bad for my
> seizures (it's well
> known for lowering the seiure threshold in people
> with a history of
> seizures). It made my seizures happen non-stop one
> after the other. I
> was on Lamictal for a couple of years (they use it
> in manic-
> depressives as a substitute for antidepressants),
> but I was never on
> a dose large enough to cause me headaches or even
> help my seizures. I
> took my final dose of it last night. There's no way
> I can ever take
> Depakote. I was on it for over a year and it made
> me very ill. They
> use it not only for seizures but also for migraines
> and manic-
> depression. It would be a magic pill for me, but it
> makes me very
> sick as well as clinically depressed. Definitely no
> toleration.
>
> Across the counter medications do nothing for me,
> and the ones with
> caffeine make me anxious--nervousness with a
> migraine is more than I
> can take.
>
> I'll look into the supplements you suggested.
> Thanks. Thanks also
> for the other suggestions, though I'm not able to
> pursue them. I'm
> sure that if the Cardizem doesn't help me more that
> my neurologist
> will try something else.
>
> Mark
>
> --- In migraineswithepilepsy@yahoogroups.com, Karin
> Schacht
> <karinschacht@e...> wrote:
> > hi mark~
> >
> >
> > Are you able to take or tolerate an additional med
> like an
> > anti-depressant? I wonder if something like one of
> the tricyclics
> would
> > help with some of your other migraine symptoms.
> > Although a higher dose of remeon made my siezure
> problems worse,
> the
> > remeron in general helped with many of the other
> migraine symptoms
> you
> > mentioned- nausea, sensitivity,etc.. Can you do an
> adjunct
> > anti-convulsant? Have you tried Neurontin yet? I
> would like to go
> back
> > on that because i had a lot less migraines on it
> than now,even
> though i
> > was on a fairly low dose. I was taken off that to
> go on topomax
> (didn't
> > tolerate) then lamictal (recently started and sure
> enough I have a
> > headache:o() - these for the seizure activity.
> >
> > I found my migraines also started when I got my
> first complex
> partial,
> > at age 13. My mothers side of her family has
> migraines.
> >
> > Right now I im in a medication limbo-land, trying
> to get off
> remeron
> > for other reasons but trying to find another good
> subsitute and a
> > tolerable anti-convulsant. I notice my migraine
> problems worsening
> (or
> > really going back to the way they used to be) as I
> get lower and
> lower
> > on my remeron dosage.
> >
> > Two things I have found helpful somewhat (as a
> preventative but
> I've
> > read of some using these to abort a migraine) is
> magnesium..chelated
> > magnesium in a pill form, and WaterOz (an aqueous
> magnesium product
> > that you can order online), which has been pretty
> good..up until i
> > started this lamictal :0(.
> >
> > I hope you can work with your drs to come up with
> something that
> will
> > stop your frequent migraines... out of all the
> meds i've tried, the
> > neurontin and the remeron have helped me the
> most...
> >
> > best of luck in finding something helpful!!
> >
> > karin
>
>
>


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Violet




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