Medical, biocide research may open new markets for silver
By: Dorothy Kosich
Posted: '22-NOV-06 08:00' GMT © Mineweb 1997-2006

RENO, NV (Mineweb.com) --New research into silver's medical and
antibacterial properties may mean good news for silver miners, who
are hoping for yet another consumer application for their product.

While silver's use as a purifier has been known for thousands of
years, research focusing on the ability of silver to destroy the
pathogens that cause illness, disease, and epidemics is heating up.

In a presentation to the China International Silver Conference, Dr,
John Aspley, Executive Director of the Immunogenic Research
Foundation (IMREF), explained that silver compounds have been used
as medicine since the late 1800s, and also have been used as a
treatment against infections internationally.

Meanwhile, silver has been viewed as a natural mineral important to
health maintenance in the same class as vitamins containing zinc,
chromium, copper, iron and magnesium.

Aspley estimated that over 700 types of pathogens have been
documented to succumb to silver-based drugs. There are three
distinct silver-based drugs, silver slats, silver proteins, and
colloidal silver and silver hydrosol.

Biocides are chemicals capable of killing living organisms, and are
more commonly known as antibiotics, antivirals, antifungals,
germicides and so on. Silver basically disables the food source
required by bacteria, viruses, yeasts, and fungi to survive and
reproduce.

Oligodynamic silver refers to the power of extremely small
concentration of metal ions, such as silver, to exert potent
biocidal actions. While it is non-toxic to people and animals,
oligodynamic silver is lethal to viruses, bacteria, fungi, protozoa,
and even cancer cells, according to Aspley. Basically, silver ions
destroy bacteria, viruses and other germs by disrupting a germ's
membrane proteins, deactivating bacterial enzymes, and preventing
bacteria from replicating.

Among the bacteria which find silver lethal are salmonella, staph
infections, streptococcus, and typhoid. The viruses which can't
tolerate silver include Herpes, Influenza, and even the common cold.
Uniform Picoscalar Oligodynamic Silver Hydrosol (UOPSH) can attack
and kill HIV/AIDs because of the ability for the silver particles to
bind to the glycoprotein knobs, which supply the AIDs virus with
protein.

The non-profit, Washington State-based Immunogenic Research
Foundation is interested in clinical research about silver's
potential to combat global epidemics and pandemics including cancer,
hepatitis C, HIV, Lymes Disease, Multiple Sclerosis, and drug-
resistant super-germs.

In a paper published last month in the international scientific
journal Current Science, a team of scientists lauded the properties
of Silver-Water Dispersion solution as an effective antibiotic.
Their study tested 19 different antibiotics against seven pathogens,
including resistant superbugs.

A pathogen is a biological agent that causes disease or illness to
its host. We encounter pathogens as bacteria, viruses, fungi, and
protozoa in the form of slime or molds.

While antibiotics may cause illness to patients to temporarily
disappear, the antibiotics may also leave behind a host of resistant
organisms in the patient's system. These may reappear at a later
date, harming the patient's immune system.

The scientists then added American Biotech Labs (ABL) silver to the
antibiotics. ABL is 23% owned by Clifton Mining Company. Their
research found that combining antibiotics with Silver-Water
Dispersion solution cleared out resistant organisms.

In a recent news release, Keith Moeller, an ABL managing director,
said, "What this means is that we may have discovered a way to make
existing antibiotics more effective. ...By adding our silver to
antibiotics we may be able to overcome antibiotic resistance. This
could increase the life span and efficacy of individual antibiotics
and positively impact millions of people."

On Tuesday, ABL announced that the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office
has issued an landmark silver producer and use patent to American
Silver, the parent company of ABL. Previous patents issued to ABL
governed the technology used in the production of its nano-particle
silver. The new patent will provide additional protection for a
series of productions the company hopes to introduce in the first
quarter of 2007, including an animal wound care product and a
cosmetic that helps promote natural healing.

CHINESE RESEARCH
Beijing's Technical Institute of Physics and Chemistry of CAS
Beijing ChamGo Nano-Tech is among China's leading companies in
research and application of antimicrobial materials and
antimicrobial agents.

In a presentation to the China International Silver Conference, Li
Bizhong said the potential market and applications for silver
antimicrobial agents are significant. He noted that silver-
containing antimicrobial agents have been widely used in ceramics
for bathrooms, washstands, tableware, floors and walls. Silver
antimicrobial agents also have potential applications in foods and
food preservation, personal care products, telecommunications,
building materials, office supplies, toys, medicine and health-
related items, and even musical instruments and cigarette filters.

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probably not.  fugus is slow to respond also.  tapeworms it's vermox,
by prescription.

--- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, "ebbcmartville"
<ebbcmartville@...> wrote:
>
> BG,
>      Will the paddles zap candida yeast and or kill tapeworms?
>
> Joe
>
>
> --- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, "baby_grand"
> <bobluhrs@> wrote:

BG,
      Will the paddles zap candida yeast and or kill tapeworms?

Joe


--- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, "baby_grand"
<bobluhrs@...> wrote:
>
>
> I do that myself.  It's okay, but all it seems to do for me is
> reduce frequent nite time urination.  I use 3 AAA's in a holder on
> the wrist every so often.  see photos section of
> microelectricitygermkiller for how-to.  parasites in the
> intestines?  I don't really care as long as they are polite.  I'd
> get a real diagnosis before going that route, it's so often
> incorrect.  And the drugs for it are much better than whatever
> else.  Unless you eat a lot of raw foods, it's rare to run across.
> Steam or pressure cook stuff real fast and it should NEVER become an
> issue.  OR, wash raw stuff in acidic water from a water ionizer unit
> (350 bucks or more, expensive).  I like the pressure cooker, or
> steamer idea best for parasites, and if any questions, visit the
> clinic and get a test for it. There are some of those out there, but
> it's easy to mistake other things for it, much too easy.  A whole
> power of suggestion thing can make you very upset over it, so get a
> really good test or worry about something else.
>
> bG
> --- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, "ebbcmartville"
> <ebbcmartville@> wrote:
> >
> > No particular bug in mind... I am looking for a systemic
> cleansing, or
> > so much as is possible by this method. So, you do not reccomend
> using
> > sigle electrodes on the radial and ulnar pulse points? How would
> you
> > go about killing parasitic organs in the intestinal tract? Is that
> > what the paddles are for?
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, "baby_grand"
> > <bobluhrs@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 5 x 6 x 2 or so.
> > >
> > > It's fun-tac rubbery sticky stuff.  I put it there to hold for
> the
> > > photo, in the device I mounted in the box with a hole for the
> knob.
> > >
> > > electrodes you should use paddles as in the
> microelectricitygermkiller
> > > group photo shows.  single electrodes for blood electrification
> aren't
> > > that useful for the many things you need this for.  ozonated
> water
> > > doesn't necessarily wake up the brain, if it doesn't want to be,
> since
> > > it has some power to decide how it wants to be, but it could
> keep you
> > > awake at night, so be careful after dinner with it.  In the am
> after
> > > some exercise it is pretty good for recovery.
> > >
> > > bG
> > >
> > > --- In
> microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, "ebbcmartville"
> > > <ebbcmartville@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > BG,
> > > >      What size box did you enclose your zapper in
> (dimensions)? Is
> > > > that chip that you used the same as a 7555 cmos timer? And
> what is
> > > > that yellow putty that I see holding the potentiometer to the
> board?
> > > > Also, could you tell me what you used for your electrodes?
> Stainless
> > > > steel? Do you know anything about ozonated water? Does it
> really wake
> > > > the brain up and oxygenate your blood? Lot of questions I
> know, but I
> > > > really appreciate your help. God bless!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Neat!  I added this file to our files archives as a complete web
archive *.mht file.

bG

--- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, V <vzon17@...>
wrote:
>
> Electricity to heal along with silver. the two work together.
> Shows a diagram to hook up electricity to body.
>
> http://www.rexresearch.com/becker/becker1.htm
>

Electricity to heal along with silver. the two work together.
Shows a diagram to hook up electricity to body.

http://www.rexresearch.com/becker/becker1.htm

--- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, "space490"
<space490@...> wrote:
>
> I'm building the Beck device in the Photos section.  One of the
> pictures shows an ammeter hooked up but does not meniton how much
> current is acceptable?  Does anyone know?
>

Use  0.2 mA / square  inch  area  of  1  pad.   Works  for  all  if
supply  voltage  is  6 Vdc;  adjust  pot  to  get  this.

Joe.

I'm building the Beck device in the Photos section.  One of the
pictures shows an ammeter hooked up but does not meniton how much
current is acceptable?  Does anyone know?

I do that myself.  It's okay, but all it seems to do for me is
reduce frequent nite time urination.  I use 3 AAA's in a holder on
the wrist every so often.  see photos section of
microelectricitygermkiller for how-to.  parasites in the
intestines?  I don't really care as long as they are polite.  I'd
get a real diagnosis before going that route, it's so often
incorrect.  And the drugs for it are much better than whatever
else.  Unless you eat a lot of raw foods, it's rare to run across.
Steam or pressure cook stuff real fast and it should NEVER become an
issue.  OR, wash raw stuff in acidic water from a water ionizer unit
(350 bucks or more, expensive).  I like the pressure cooker, or
steamer idea best for parasites, and if any questions, visit the
clinic and get a test for it. There are some of those out there, but
it's easy to mistake other things for it, much too easy.  A whole
power of suggestion thing can make you very upset over it, so get a
really good test or worry about something else.

bG
--- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, "ebbcmartville"
<ebbcmartville@...> wrote:
>
> No particular bug in mind... I am looking for a systemic
cleansing, or
> so much as is possible by this method. So, you do not reccomend
using
> sigle electrodes on the radial and ulnar pulse points? How would
you
> go about killing parasitic organs in the intestinal tract? Is that
> what the paddles are for?
>
>
>
> --- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, "baby_grand"
> <bobluhrs@> wrote:
> >
> > 5 x 6 x 2 or so.
> >
> > It's fun-tac rubbery sticky stuff.  I put it there to hold for
the
> > photo, in the device I mounted in the box with a hole for the
knob.
> >
> > electrodes you should use paddles as in the
microelectricitygermkiller
> > group photo shows.  single electrodes for blood electrification
aren't
> > that useful for the many things you need this for.  ozonated
water
> > doesn't necessarily wake up the brain, if it doesn't want to be,
since
> > it has some power to decide how it wants to be, but it could
keep you
> > awake at night, so be careful after dinner with it.  In the am
after
> > some exercise it is pretty good for recovery.
> >
> > bG
> >
> > --- In
microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, "ebbcmartville"
> > <ebbcmartville@> wrote:
> > >
> > > BG,
> > >      What size box did you enclose your zapper in
(dimensions)? Is
> > > that chip that you used the same as a 7555 cmos timer? And
what is
> > > that yellow putty that I see holding the potentiometer to the
board?
> > > Also, could you tell me what you used for your electrodes?
Stainless
> > > steel? Do you know anything about ozonated water? Does it
really wake
> > > the brain up and oxygenate your blood? Lot of questions I
know, but I
> > > really appreciate your help. God bless!
> > >
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
> >
>

No particular bug in mind... I am looking for a systemic cleansing, or
so much as is possible by this method. So, you do not reccomend using
sigle electrodes on the radial and ulnar pulse points? How would you
go about killing parasitic organs in the intestinal tract? Is that
what the paddles are for?



--- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, "baby_grand"
<bobluhrs@...> wrote:
>
> 5 x 6 x 2 or so.
>
> It's fun-tac rubbery sticky stuff.  I put it there to hold for the
> photo, in the device I mounted in the box with a hole for the knob.
>
> electrodes you should use paddles as in the microelectricitygermkiller
> group photo shows.  single electrodes for blood electrification aren't
> that useful for the many things you need this for.  ozonated water
> doesn't necessarily wake up the brain, if it doesn't want to be, since
> it has some power to decide how it wants to be, but it could keep you
> awake at night, so be careful after dinner with it.  In the am after
> some exercise it is pretty good for recovery.
>
> bG
>
> --- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, "ebbcmartville"
> <ebbcmartville@> wrote:
> >
> > BG,
> >      What size box did you enclose your zapper in (dimensions)? Is
> > that chip that you used the same as a 7555 cmos timer? And what is
> > that yellow putty that I see holding the potentiometer to the board?
> > Also, could you tell me what you used for your electrodes? Stainless
> > steel? Do you know anything about ozonated water? Does it really wake
> > the brain up and oxygenate your blood? Lot of questions I know, but I
> > really appreciate your help. God bless!
> >
> >
> > Joe
> >
>

5 x 6 x 2 or so.

It's fun-tac rubbery sticky stuff.  I put it there to hold for the
photo, in the device I mounted in the box with a hole for the knob.

electrodes you should use paddles as in the microelectricitygermkiller
group photo shows.  single electrodes for blood electrification aren't
that useful for the many things you need this for.  ozonated water
doesn't necessarily wake up the brain, if it doesn't want to be, since
it has some power to decide how it wants to be, but it could keep you
awake at night, so be careful after dinner with it.  In the am after
some exercise it is pretty good for recovery.

bG

--- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, "ebbcmartville"
<ebbcmartville@...> wrote:
>
> BG,
>      What size box did you enclose your zapper in (dimensions)? Is
> that chip that you used the same as a 7555 cmos timer? And what is
> that yellow putty that I see holding the potentiometer to the board?
> Also, could you tell me what you used for your electrodes? Stainless
> steel? Do you know anything about ozonated water? Does it really wake
> the brain up and oxygenate your blood? Lot of questions I know, but I
> really appreciate your help. God bless!
>
>
> Joe
>

sorry to pry, but what microbe is being addressed here?

--- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, "ebbcmartville"
<ebbcmartville@...> wrote:
>
> BG,
>      What size box did you enclose your zapper in (dimensions)? Is
> that chip that you used the same as a 7555 cmos timer? And what is
> that yellow putty that I see holding the potentiometer to the board?
> Also, could you tell me what you used for your electrodes? Stainless
> steel? Do you know anything about ozonated water? Does it really wake
> the brain up and oxygenate your blood? Lot of questions I know, but I
> really appreciate your help. God bless!
>
>
> Joe
>

BG,
      What size box did you enclose your zapper in (dimensions)? Is
that chip that you used the same as a 7555 cmos timer? And what is
that yellow putty that I see holding the potentiometer to the board?
Also, could you tell me what you used for your electrodes? Stainless
steel? Do you know anything about ozonated water? Does it really wake
the brain up and oxygenate your blood? Lot of questions I know, but I
really appreciate your help. God bless!


Joe

I've put the plugin board project shots into our group photos section.
bG

--- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, "baby_grand"
<bobluhrs@...> wrote:
>
> --- In microelectricitygermkiller@yahoogroups.com, <luvspring@>
> wrote:
>
> I take a thyroid med, iron, calcium, fish oil, and have not had any
> side effects after pulsing, but I did wait 24 hours before pulsing
> and then took my meds a few minutes after.
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Dick Rochon
>   To: microelectricitygermkiller@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 11:16 AM
>   Subject: [microelectricitygermkiller]HOW-T0 in PHOTOS menu group
> webpage. Re: FOR "HOW-T0" PLANS, GO TO THE GROUP WEBPAGE, PHOTOS
> MENU. re: overdose effect...
>
>
>   Beck assumed a lot of things that have not proven true. His
> statement that garlic was toxic and should never be consumed. If
you
> search garlic+toxic you will find a number of references, but they
> all relate back to Beck's statement. No one else has found any
> toxicity in garlic. It will cause burns if a clove is left next to
> mucus membrane for too long, like between the cheek and gums, so
> maybe it would cause stomach distress if it sat in one place in the
> stomach, but I don't know of anyone who would swallow a whole
clove.
> And googling garlic will turn up thousands of benefits to garlic.
>
>   He also warned about using microcurrents after taking medications
> and supplements. I know that everyone is different, so this may not
> apply to anyone else, but I have used Beck's device, Clark's
Zapper,
> Godzilla with four 9v batteries, with four AA batteries, with a six
> volt battery, and others, while it evolved. I also take a blood
> pressure Rx and heavy doses of about 10 to 12 herbs and
supplements,
> and over 3 years have never found that microcurrents have caused
any
> sign of overdosing the medications. And as far as I remember there
> has never been a report on this board of anyone who had a problem
> with this.
>
>   My conclusion is that Beck wanted to be sure that no one had any
> bad results from using his device, so he made these statements,
> without any actual proof, just to be safe.
>
>   Dick
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: luvspring@
>   To: microelectricitygermkiller@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 6:10 PM
>   Subject: FOR "HOW-T0" PLANS, GO TO THE GROUP WEBPAGE, PHOTOS
MENU.
> re: overdose effect...
>
>   So, this makes it very difficult to share with patients if they
> are on heart meds.
>
>   Joe, were you on any meds that you had to come off of?
>
>   LS
>

No -  only  med  is  insulin;  cont'd.

Tried  a  1.5 x 7"  pad  along  pancreas,  other  along  back -
when  I  found  out  how  much  more  sting  is  involved  at  sw
time.

Have  gone  to  regulated  12 Vdc  on  the  large  card  to  allow
a  lot  bigger  series  resistor  so  would  be  able  to  put  in
a  low  pass  filter  w  a  better  R / C  time  constant.  The
card  is  playing -  on  floor -  awaiting  the  filter
construction.   Am  pressed  for  $'s  so  haven't  ordered  in  any
non polarized  crossover  caps  yet.  They  are  to  go  on  a  5/8"
sq  monitor  card  w  2  LED's  back  to  back,  a  parallel
resistor  to  bypass  more  current  &  the  cap  across  that,
along  w  a  slide  sw  to  get  .5 uA  for  ATP  production  &
free  radical  cancellation,  surface  mount  construction.   Kind
of  sticks  in  my  craw -  would  be  about  x 5  the  volume  when
the  cap  gets  put  in.   Have  called  factory  about  reverse
voltage  stressing  polarized  tantulums,  would  need  2  at  50 V
to  survive.

On  the  small  card  there  is  only  capability  to  run  1  big
pad  pair,  haven't  built  1  yet.   Original  1  I  liked  had
the  copper  wire  stuck  to  S.S.  screen  useing  electrically
conductive  RTV,  not  any  here,  that's  in  Yuma  AZ;  I'm  in
Jonesboro  AR  [started  to  be  a  mo  &  has  been  extended
indefinitly].   Other  expenses  have  priority.   Had  been
planning  on  production  units  spot  welded  [someday].

Joe.   OK -  it's  more  than  you  asked  for,  maybe  beyond  you.

--- In microelectricitygermkiller@yahoogroups.com, <luvspring@...>
wrote:

I take a thyroid med, iron, calcium, fish oil, and have not had any
side effects after pulsing, but I did wait 24 hours before pulsing
and then took my meds a few minutes after.


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Dick Rochon
   To: microelectricitygermkiller@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 11:16 AM
   Subject: [microelectricitygermkiller]HOW-T0 in PHOTOS menu group
webpage. Re: FOR "HOW-T0" PLANS, GO TO THE GROUP WEBPAGE, PHOTOS
MENU. re: overdose effect...


   Beck assumed a lot of things that have not proven true. His
statement that garlic was toxic and should never be consumed. If you
search garlic+toxic you will find a number of references, but they
all relate back to Beck's statement. No one else has found any
toxicity in garlic. It will cause burns if a clove is left next to
mucus membrane for too long, like between the cheek and gums, so
maybe it would cause stomach distress if it sat in one place in the
stomach, but I don't know of anyone who would swallow a whole clove.
And googling garlic will turn up thousands of benefits to garlic.

   He also warned about using microcurrents after taking medications
and supplements. I know that everyone is different, so this may not
apply to anyone else, but I have used Beck's device, Clark's Zapper,
Godzilla with four 9v batteries, with four AA batteries, with a six
volt battery, and others, while it evolved. I also take a blood
pressure Rx and heavy doses of about 10 to 12 herbs and supplements,
and over 3 years have never found that microcurrents have caused any
sign of overdosing the medications. And as far as I remember there
has never been a report on this board of anyone who had a problem
with this.

   My conclusion is that Beck wanted to be sure that no one had any
bad results from using his device, so he made these statements,
without any actual proof, just to be safe.

   Dick

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: luvspring@...
   To: microelectricitygermkiller@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 6:10 PM
   Subject: FOR "HOW-T0" PLANS, GO TO THE GROUP WEBPAGE, PHOTOS MENU.
re: overdose effect...

   So, this makes it very difficult to share with patients if they
are on heart meds.

   Joe, were you on any meds that you had to come off of?

   LS
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Joe
   To: microelectricitygermkiller@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 5:41 PM
   Subject: FOR "HOW-T0" PLANS, GO TO THE GROUP WEBPAGE, PHOTOS MENU.
Re: To BG

   --- In microelectricitygermkiller@yahoogroups.com, <luvspring@>
   wrote:
   >
   > Would this one cause the overdose effect that Becks may cause?

   Even more since it works better.

   Joe.

   > She won't be able to make it, but I will see she gets one
somehow.
   I wouldn't even know which wire to buy. But I am getting very nice
   emails from people who are offering to "spoon feed" me :)
   >
   > Bless you all!!!
   >
   > LS
   > -----

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Equivalent circuits are always simply approximations
done to make applications feasible.  Electrolytic
capacitors in general have high leakage behaviors.
That is a price we usually pay for making our parts
smaller and smaller.  Over 60 years ago when I used
silvered mica capacitors in RF circuits I had quality
unmatched by the stuff we have today.  However, to
make
that capacitor in a 10 microfarad, 100 volt capability
would take a device roughly as big as a house and cost

many thousands of dollars LOL.  So we live with the
inferior electrolytics.  We just have to know their
limitations.

--- Joe <aubug2@...> wrote:

> --- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com,
> Don Hildreth
> <w6nrw2@...> wrote:
> >
> > What you say would be true for 'normal' capacitors
> in
> > series, but the approximate equivalent circuit of
> an
> > electrolytic capacitor is usually given as a
> capacitor
> > in parallel with a diode. Thus the effective
> capacity
> > would not be half. (I'll admit that I have never
> made
> > any detailed analysis to confirm that equivalent
> > circuit in great detail)
>
>
> Well -  it's  not  'usual'  but  is  a  reasonable
> approximation -
> when  you  account  for  the  monumental  amount  of
>  reverse
> current  leakage -  enough  to  kill  the  operation
>  of  555's -  &
> still  pass  factory  specs.
>
> Joe.
>
>
> >
> > --- Bella Lugosi <batzcuz@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Don...for bringing it up, but you're
> missing
> > > Detail~
> > >   CAPs in Series, function like RESISTORs in
> > > PARALLEL!
> > >   [If 2 equal R's in parallel, or equal C's in
> > > series, gives 1/2]
> > >
> > >   If you want to make a 10-mfd (NP) CAP, you
> will
> > > need to
> > >   wire two 20-mfd Polarized Caps in Series
> > > (back-to-back).
> > >   Placing two 10-mfd caps in series...will
> yield,
> > > only 5-mfd.
> > >   Some (audio-freq/low signal) applications are
> not
> > > critical,
> > >   and while nice to get NP performance...reality
> > > prevailes?
> > >   Power-distribution & motors DO-NOT use
> > > non-polarized!
> > >
> > >   Most electrolytic caps, were manufactured with
> > > negative
> > >   connection to the outside of the caps physical
> > > package,
> > >   which is best in HVDC applications with case
> > > grounded.
> > >   It's not wise when placed in series (floating)
> no
> > > grounds!
> > >   Ok, my point being...wire 2 caps (-) to
> (-)...not
> > > (+) to (+),
> > >   which helps to isolate, contacting outer (-)
> can =
> > > zaps..!
> > >
> > >   Also note, if two Caps are equal-capacity (not
> > > likely) you
> > >   can then operate new/(NP) series combo-caps,
> at
> > > higher
> > >   WVDC/(operating-voltage) than original cap
> > > specification.
> > >   For safety reasons, cap cannot be assumed to
> be
> > > same
> > >   capacity of any other-caps that it is being
> > > paired-up with.
> > >   As a ckt. designer, if I placed 2 (35-wvdc)
> caps
> > > in series,
> > >   then might run combos...up to maybe
> 50-vdc...not
> > > to 70!
> > >
> > >   FYI: If CAP VALUES are NOT EQUAL, then for
> SAFETY
> > >   in AC (signal) voltage distribution...never
> > > exceed, WVDC
> > >   values identified for the lowest capacitor in
> > > series-string!
> > >
> > >   Hope my simplified (equation free) version,
> was
> > > helpfull?
> > >   Parallel Caps/(Series Resistor) math is very
> > > simple, but
> > >   equations are not that easy to represent here
> via
> > > typing.
> > >   [Refer to any elementry electronics book, with
> > > formulas]
> > >
> > >   ^BATZCUZ^
> > >
> > >   P.S. I know, thinking what does some little
> BAT
> > > know,
> > >   about electronics theory...(LoL) we had SONAR
> > > First...
> > >   took humans eons to discover Batz (midnight)
> > > Secrets.
> > >   ========================================
> > >
> > > Don Hildreth <w6nrw2@...> wrote:
> > >     Just because I haven't seen it mentioned
> here.
> > > And just because there may be thousands of
> polarized
> > > electrolytic capacitors out there for every
> > > available non-polarized (NP)electrolytic
> capacitor,
> > > the following is what to do to make an NP
> > > electrolytic
> > > if you only can find the polarized kind: Put two
> (2)
> > > equal value polarized Cs in series in polarity
> > > opposition. That is, connect the two + ends or
> the
> > > two minus ends together to get the series pair.
> > >
> > >   BATZ: Connecting (-) to (-)
> > > Safer/(More-Betterest-?)!
> > >
> > > The resulting non-polarized C is equal to one of
> the
> > > pair and the combination is non-polarized.
> > >
> > >   BATZ: This (new) series C+C capacitor is
> NOT=C...
> > >   it's C/2 = half of what you strated out with,
> > > trust Bat/
> > >   also this only holds true if both caps are
> equal
> > > "C"~!
> > >
> > >
> > >
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--- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, Don Hildreth
<w6nrw2@...> wrote:
>
> What you say would be true for 'normal' capacitors in
> series, but the approximate equivalent circuit of an
> electrolytic capacitor is usually given as a capacitor
> in parallel with a diode. Thus the effective capacity
> would not be half. (I'll admit that I have never made
> any detailed analysis to confirm that equivalent
> circuit in great detail)


Well -  it's  not  'usual'  but  is  a  reasonable  approximation -
when  you  account  for  the  monumental  amount  of  reverse
current  leakage -  enough  to  kill  the  operation  of  555's -  &
still  pass  factory  specs.

Joe.


>
> --- Bella Lugosi <batzcuz@...> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Don...for bringing it up, but you're missing
> > Detail~
> >   CAPs in Series, function like RESISTORs in
> > PARALLEL!
> >   [If 2 equal R's in parallel, or equal C's in
> > series, gives 1/2]
> >
> >   If you want to make a 10-mfd (NP) CAP, you will
> > need to
> >   wire two 20-mfd Polarized Caps in Series
> > (back-to-back).
> >   Placing two 10-mfd caps in series...will yield,
> > only 5-mfd.
> >   Some (audio-freq/low signal) applications are not
> > critical,
> >   and while nice to get NP performance...reality
> > prevailes?
> >   Power-distribution & motors DO-NOT use
> > non-polarized!
> >
> >   Most electrolytic caps, were manufactured with
> > negative
> >   connection to the outside of the caps physical
> > package,
> >   which is best in HVDC applications with case
> > grounded.
> >   It's not wise when placed in series (floating) no
> > grounds!
> >   Ok, my point being...wire 2 caps (-) to (-)...not
> > (+) to (+),
> >   which helps to isolate, contacting outer (-) can =
> > zaps..!
> >
> >   Also note, if two Caps are equal-capacity (not
> > likely) you
> >   can then operate new/(NP) series combo-caps, at
> > higher
> >   WVDC/(operating-voltage) than original cap
> > specification.
> >   For safety reasons, cap cannot be assumed to be
> > same
> >   capacity of any other-caps that it is being
> > paired-up with.
> >   As a ckt. designer, if I placed 2 (35-wvdc) caps
> > in series,
> >   then might run combos...up to maybe 50-vdc...not
> > to 70!
> >
> >   FYI: If CAP VALUES are NOT EQUAL, then for SAFETY
> >   in AC (signal) voltage distribution...never
> > exceed, WVDC
> >   values identified for the lowest capacitor in
> > series-string!
> >
> >   Hope my simplified (equation free) version, was
> > helpfull?
> >   Parallel Caps/(Series Resistor) math is very
> > simple, but
> >   equations are not that easy to represent here via
> > typing.
> >   [Refer to any elementry electronics book, with
> > formulas]
> >
> >   ^BATZCUZ^
> >
> >   P.S. I know, thinking what does some little BAT
> > know,
> >   about electronics theory...(LoL) we had SONAR
> > First...
> >   took humans eons to discover Batz (midnight)
> > Secrets.
> >   ========================================
> >
> > Don Hildreth <w6nrw2@...> wrote:
> >     Just because I haven't seen it mentioned here.
> > And just because there may be thousands of polarized
> > electrolytic capacitors out there for every
> > available non-polarized (NP)electrolytic capacitor,
> > the following is what to do to make an NP
> > electrolytic
> > if you only can find the polarized kind: Put two (2)
> > equal value polarized Cs in series in polarity
> > opposition. That is, connect the two + ends or the
> > two minus ends together to get the series pair.
> >
> >   BATZ: Connecting (-) to (-)
> > Safer/(More-Betterest-?)!
> >
> > The resulting non-polarized C is equal to one of the
> > pair and the combination is non-polarized.
> >
> >   BATZ: This (new) series C+C capacitor is NOT=C...
> >   it's C/2 = half of what you strated out with,
> > trust Bat/
> >   also this only holds true if both caps are equal
> > "C"~!
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> >
> >
> >
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What you say would be true for 'normal' capacitors in
series, but the approximate equivalent circuit of an
electrolytic capacitor is usually given as a capacitor
in parallel with a diode. Thus the effective capacity
would not be half. (I'll admit that I have never made
any detailed analysis to confirm that equivalent
circuit in great detail)

--- Bella Lugosi <batzcuz@...> wrote:

> Thanks Don...for bringing it up, but you're missing
> Detail~
>   CAPs in Series, function like RESISTORs in
> PARALLEL!
>   [If 2 equal R's in parallel, or equal C's in
> series, gives 1/2]
>
>   If you want to make a 10-mfd (NP) CAP, you will
> need to
>   wire two 20-mfd Polarized Caps in Series
> (back-to-back).
>   Placing two 10-mfd caps in series...will yield,
> only 5-mfd.
>   Some (audio-freq/low signal) applications are not
> critical,
>   and while nice to get NP performance...reality
> prevailes?
>   Power-distribution & motors DO-NOT use
> non-polarized!
>
>   Most electrolytic caps, were manufactured with
> negative
>   connection to the outside of the caps physical
> package,
>   which is best in HVDC applications with case
> grounded.
>   It's not wise when placed in series (floating) no
> grounds!
>   Ok, my point being...wire 2 caps (-) to (-)...not
> (+) to (+),
>   which helps to isolate, contacting outer (-) can =
> zaps..!
>
>   Also note, if two Caps are equal-capacity (not
> likely) you
>   can then operate new/(NP) series combo-caps, at
> higher
>   WVDC/(operating-voltage) than original cap
> specification.
>   For safety reasons, cap cannot be assumed to be
> same
>   capacity of any other-caps that it is being
> paired-up with.
>   As a ckt. designer, if I placed 2 (35-wvdc) caps
> in series,
>   then might run combos...up to maybe 50-vdc...not
> to 70!
>
>   FYI: If CAP VALUES are NOT EQUAL, then for SAFETY
>   in AC (signal) voltage distribution...never
> exceed, WVDC
>   values identified for the lowest capacitor in
> series-string!
>
>   Hope my simplified (equation free) version, was
> helpfull?
>   Parallel Caps/(Series Resistor) math is very
> simple, but
>   equations are not that easy to represent here via
> typing.
>   [Refer to any elementry electronics book, with
> formulas]
>
>   ^BATZCUZ^
>
>   P.S. I know, thinking what does some little BAT
> know,
>   about electronics theory...(LoL) we had SONAR
> First...
>   took humans eons to discover Batz (midnight)
> Secrets.
>   ========================================
>
> Don Hildreth <w6nrw2@...> wrote:
>     Just because I haven't seen it mentioned here.
> And just because there may be thousands of polarized
> electrolytic capacitors out there for every
> available non-polarized (NP)electrolytic capacitor,
> the following is what to do to make an NP
> electrolytic
> if you only can find the polarized kind: Put two (2)
> equal value polarized Cs in series in polarity
> opposition. That is, connect the two + ends or the
> two minus ends together to get the series pair.
>
>   BATZ: Connecting (-) to (-)
> Safer/(More-Betterest-?)!
>
> The resulting non-polarized C is equal to one of the
> pair and the combination is non-polarized.
>
>   BATZ: This (new) series C+C capacitor is NOT=C...
>   it's C/2 = half of what you strated out with,
> trust Bat/
>   also this only holds true if both caps are equal
> "C"~!
>
>
> __________________________________________________
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls
> to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.


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Just because I haven't seen it mentioned here.
And just because there may be thousands of polarized
electrolytic capacitors out there for every
available non-polarized (NP)electrolytic capacitor,
the following is what to do to make an NP electrolytic
if you only can find the polarized kind: Put two (2)
equal value polarized Cs in series in polarity
opposition. That is, connect the two + ends or the
two minus ends together to get the series pair.

 

BATZ: Connecting (-) to (-) Safer/(More-Betterest-?)!

The resulting non-polarized C is equal to one of the
pair and the combination is non-polarized.

 

BATZ: This (new) series C+C capacitor is NOT=C...

it's C/2 = half of what you strated out with, trust Bat/

also this only holds true if both caps are equal "C"~!  


__________________________________________________

Just because I haven't seen it mentioned here.
And just because there may be thousands of polarized
electrolytic capacitors out there for every
available non-polarized (NP)electrolytic capacitor,
the following is what to do to make an NP electrolytic
if you only can find the polarized kind: Put two (2)
equal value polarized Cs in series in polarity
opposition.  That is, connect the two + ends or the
two minus ends together to get the series pair.
The resulting non-polarized C is equal to one of the
pair and the combination is non-polarized.


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I just deleted it, thanks for headsup
bG

--- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, "solarisdezign"
<solarisdezign@...> wrote:
>
> as a new member I went to the file section and found this
>
> ! militaryfriends.html
> wonderful place for dating with military strongs and beauties
>
>
> SD
>

The distance depends on your wattage.  I use a 40 watt, but you can use a 20
  60 or more.  So, the more watts the more heat I suppose.  I built a
cardboard "box"--actually the first one I built was round to fit over the
shade of the light source I had.  I cut a piece of cardboard box long enough
to go around the light and about 5 inches wide, rolled it into a tube, taped
the end over the lamp shade, made a front piece to hold the filter and taped
that to the front end of the cardboard.  When I used it, after an hour,
which is the usual tonation time, I found that the filter was warped.  So I
took a knife and cut little backwards opening flaps in the cardboard.  That
way the white light from the bulb shown out backwards and not frontward
towards my body, and the flaps let enough heat escape that I never had to
worry about warping filters again.  But finally, the plastic shade came
loose one night while my husband was tonating and fell against the bulb.  He
was sleeping and didn't notice the horrid melting plastic smell, but I sure
did!  So I threw that set away and bought a metal shade clamp on light from
the hardware store.   Thinking to make a better box I bought foam board at
the hobby shop and cut and made a nice, pretty box that I glued to the lip
of the metal shade and I made it 6 inches long so that I wouldn't have to
cut a lot of flaps in it.  All nice and fancy, all pretty.  And WAY too top
heavy!!!  When I clamp the light now, it just is so top heavy that it hangs
straight down and almost pulls the clamp off the floor lamp I have it on.
So--I will go back to cardboard boxes and make a new filter holder.

The Let There Be Light book actually has plans in it for making a holder
though.  What sizes to cut, etc.  I just guestamated both times and the
holders themselves are fine--it's just that the foam board is too heavy.

Samala
Renee

-------Original Message-------

How far away does it need to be from the filters? How do you
Accomplish this?
Appreciate any info.

How far away does it need to be from the filters?  How do you
accomplish this?
Appreciate any info.


--- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, "Renee"
<gaiacita@...> wrote:
>
> Well, that would work I suppose.  Wouldn't be the right protocol
because you
> are suppose to be directly under the light--close as possible,
though there
> is some benefit even at a further distance.  I have mine set up on
one of
> those clamp on lights so that I can shine it right where it's
suppose to be.
>  I have it on a floor lamp so that I can move it up and down, and
bend it
> into any position I need and get it right next to me.  Some of the
lights
> you want full body, others you want local.
>
> What watt is the bulb for those round lights?  I use 40 watt in
mine so it
> doesn't over heat the film.  I asked Darius about using led light
bulbs
> because I have seen so many of those led colored pen type of
lights and they
> want a fortune for them.  He said no, that the leds don't work as
they are
> not the right spectrum.  Of course, he's looking at it from the
scientific
> point of view--WHY the lights work the way they do, which means it
has to
> have a spectrum of as close to sun light as possible.  And these
new "sun
> light" bulbs DON'T have the full spectrum!!  How weird is that?
Also,
> fluorescent lights don't work either.  They are all lacking in one
or more
> of the sun colors and/or too strong in other colors.  Just plain
old light
> bulbs work best.  And it's tricky getting the film at the proper
distance
> from the light so the heat doesn't melt the film.  I did that the
first set
> up I made, but then I drilled more holes in the back of the set up
to let
> out some heat and it worked fine then, but I do have one warped
filter! Lol
>
>
> I'm also setting up a flashlight to work so I can take it with me
when I
> travel.  I'll never be without the SC again.
>
> Samala
> Renee

Well, that would work I suppose.  Wouldn't be the right protocol because you
are suppose to be directly under the light--close as possible, though there
is some benefit even at a further distance.  I have mine set up on one of
those clamp on lights so that I can shine it right where it's suppose to be.
  I have it on a floor lamp so that I can move it up and down, and bend it
into any position I need and get it right next to me.  Some of the lights
you want full body, others you want local.

What watt is the bulb for those round lights?  I use 40 watt in mine so it
doesn't over heat the film.  I asked Darius about using led light bulbs
because I have seen so many of those led colored pen type of lights and they
want a fortune for them.  He said no, that the leds don't work as they are
not the right spectrum.  Of course, he's looking at it from the scientific
point of view--WHY the lights work the way they do, which means it has to
have a spectrum of as close to sun light as possible.  And these new "sun
light" bulbs DON'T have the full spectrum!!  How weird is that?  Also,
fluorescent lights don't work either.  They are all lacking in one or more
of the sun colors and/or too strong in other colors.  Just plain old light
bulbs work best.  And it's tricky getting the film at the proper distance
from the light so the heat doesn't melt the film.  I did that the first set
up I made, but then I drilled more holes in the back of the set up to let
out some heat and it worked fine then, but I do have one warped filter! Lol


I'm also setting up a flashlight to work so I can take it with me when I
travel.  I'll never be without the SC again.

Samala
Renee



Original message
Yes, thanks I am aware of that.

The plan would be to get x number of the white globe bubble lights that yu
Touch to click on and insert the filters into it.

And juck click on the on I need as neeeded.

--- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, "Renee" <gaiacita@...>
wrote:
>
> Hey Mark. NO!! You should not make an array of them. That is not how they
> are used.  You use ONE color at a time, focused on the body area that need
>

yes, thanks i am aware of that.

the plan would be to get x number of the white globe bubble lights that yu
touch to click on and insert the filters into it.

and juck click on the on i need as neeeded.

so

O O O O O X O O O O

etc

thanks for the info

M

as a new member I went to the file section and found this

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