I have been wanting a Beck Magnetic Pulser for some time now and I was trying to

build one for cheap using a photo flash and magnetic coil but... we (my husband

and I) have bought two photo flashes and can't seem to hook them up correctly. 

Anyhow...... I am interested in purchasing a Sota Magnetic Pulser and was

wondering if this is a good product and also whether it is powerful enough?  I

read a comment somewhere that it was not as powerful as some other magnetic

pulsers and also if it is built exactly as Beck recommended.  Thanks for any

help or comments!!!

The early pulsers by SOTA were ok, but...the latest are truly great.  They have

got parts that last longer (almost indefinitely), plenty of power, and you will

waste time and money on homemade at this point even if you get them working, as

they quickly burn out.



I use mine for soreness in nerves.  It doesn't work on germs, does little if

anything.  Some say it did for them, I tend to doubt it.

But for loosing fluids in pinched or irritated nerves, the thing is unbelievably

good.   When it works, it really works.



Use the simple dc godzilla for your germ projects, and the pulser for some other

stuff as needed.



The colloidal silver (silvergen.com) maker is more important than a pulser for

germs, alongside the godzilla.   Silvergen's SG6 is awesome and makes truly fine

grain stuff.  I would not be without it.  Great for spraying in nasal areas for

flu, on hands, foods, take tablespoon of it if suspect food poisoning, etc. 

Cannot be without that one.  The pulser is really optional, to me, but

everyone's different.



bG



--- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, "spag823" <spag823@...>

wrote:

>

> I have been wanting a Beck Magnetic Pulser for some time now and I was trying

to build one for cheap using a photo flash and magnetic coil but... we (my

husband and I) have bought two photo flashes and can't seem to hook them up

correctly.  Anyhow...... I am interested in purchasing a Sota Magnetic Pulser

and was wondering if this is a good product and also whether it is powerful

enough?  I read a comment somewhere that it was not as powerful as some other

magnetic pulsers and also if it is built exactly as Beck recommended.  Thanks

for any help or comments!!!

>

Oh. My. God. This makes me so angry. There are a million posts on this forum

about how to build a magnetic pulser and no one, until now, thought to mention

that they don't do what you (and I) think they do.



"Soreness in nerves"? Are you kidding me? Someone, anyone, please tell me that

the magnetic pulsers at least clean out the lymphatic system (which,

incidentally, you can do with a mini trampoline unless someone wants to burst

that bubble too). They don't "work on germs"? What the f*ck is the point then?



Now I know that after that rant that this is going to sound sarcastic but you

say that "the latest are truly great", how are they truly great? I really do

want to know.



Anyone else out there have any insight or experience to share about the Beck

Magnetic Pulser. And I'd also like to know how the Sota Blood Purifier stacks up

against the godzilla. Are they equal in effect? Can they be used

interchangeably?



Thanks,

Rio





--- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, "bob luhrs" <bobluhrs@...>

wrote:

>

> The early pulsers by SOTA were ok, but...the latest are truly great.

>

> I use mine for soreness in nerves.  It doesn't work on germs, does little if

anything.  Some say it did for them, I tend to doubt it.

> But for loosing fluids in pinched or irritated nerves, the thing is

unbelievably good.   When it works, it really works.

>

> Use the simple dc godzilla for your germ projects, and the pulser for some

other stuff as needed.

hi, well, germs are complex proteins.  in order to break those down it requires

bombarding with electrons.  germs don't respond to magnetism, they are not iron

filings.  but the good news is that they are altered "corroded" in a sense, by

continuous bombardment with charged particles, namely, electrons.  Germs have

enzymes inside and delicate coatings on the outside.  these things all have

large molecules with "active sites" on each of them.  an active site is where

you have an extra electron or lack of one.  this gives them ability to

chemically change in ways leading to the reproduction.



if you supply a stream of bombarding electrons you can upset these active sites,

and render the whole microbe inert to reproduction.



the only question is how many electrons, and for how long must you bombard with

them?  turns out it is a sliding scale.  using 3 volts you'd use about 20

minutes, 6 volts about 10 minutes, etc.  no precise numbers are known (or really

needed) here.  Just applying dc to the germs for some minutes between 3 and 6

volts, between 10 and 20 minutes should greatly reduce or get rid of them.



ok, now what about the pulser?   It hits the body with a magnetic field and the

iron in the body becomes a magnet for the short duration.   This magnet in the

body in turn creates an electric current flowing in the body.  It is a very tiny

current, probably less than a volt.  It only lasts a millionth of a second or

so.  There is no real opportunity for swarms of electrons to hit the germs and

they live on.



But, the magnet it makes inside the body is blood-iron based, and the magnetized

blood will tend to attract itself into a clump, it will try to gather together. 

As it does so, it increases pressures on nearby tissue like a small pump.  This

can force lymph from areas where it sits behind "one way valves" in the lymph

nodes.



Beck used this pumping system to "rid the lymph" of HIV.  That does assume the

HIV is in the fluid, not in lymphatic cells.  But it is in lymphatic cells.  So

the effect might be less than optimal.



Instead, applying the dc current to lymph nodes might offer a better chance to

use the principle of dc current degradation of the germs.



The only real double-blind research was done using this "electron bombardment"

approach, and we have the study, it's reduced HIV in a dish 99 percent in 3

minutes.  So, I am pursuing that instead of trying to find out if a magnetic

pulser can do some other effect.  I don't know if it can, but if the proven

effects are wanted, then use the proven causes.   I have used magnetic pulsing

with a strong SOTA unit on my colds and sore throats with zero effects.  The 6

volt battery thing (godzilla) worked like a charm time and again.



ok, enuf.  Beck had bed-ridden folks who could not jump on a trampoline, so he

used his physics brain to get the lymph moving.  end of story.

bG



--- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, "texan_rio" <texan_rio@...>

wrote:

>

> Oh. My. God. This makes me so angry. There are a million posts on this forum

about how to build a magnetic pulser and no one, until now, thought to mention

that they don't do what you (and I) think they do.

>

> "Soreness in nerves"? Are you kidding me? Someone, anyone, please tell me that

the magnetic pulsers at least clean out the lymphatic system (which,

incidentally, you can do with a mini trampoline unless someone wants to burst

that bubble too). They don't "work on germs"? What the f*ck is the point then?

>

> Now I know that after that rant that this is going to sound sarcastic but you

say that "the latest are truly great", how are they truly great? I really do

want to know.

>

> Anyone else out there have any insight or experience to share about the Beck

Magnetic Pulser. And I'd also like to know how the Sota Blood Purifier stacks up

against the godzilla. Are they equal in effect? Can they be used

interchangeably?

>

> Thanks,

> Rio

>

>

> --- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, "bob luhrs" <bobluhrs@>

wrote:

> >

> > The early pulsers by SOTA were ok, but...the latest are truly great.

> >

> > I use mine for soreness in nerves.  It doesn't work on germs, does little if

anything.  Some say it did for them, I tend to doubt it.

> > But for loosing fluids in pinched or irritated nerves, the thing is

unbelievably good.   When it works, it really works.

> >

> > Use the simple dc godzilla for your germ projects, and the pulser for some

other stuff as needed.

>

to answer these 2 questions, the original SOTA pulsers just burned out their

capacitors and had to be sent in for replacement every few years. costing half

the price of a new one. They did not have the more solid design, were sort of

ugly, while the new ones last theoretically forever, and are very nice looking,

with extra features like LED's showing the charging up of the coil, Nice timer

on it, etc.  Not sure that affects the outcome but it is all part of what you

pay for.



you cannot depend on the Beck blood purifier to be as effective on hep-c in

blood as the godzilla.  it left the viral load after 1 year at 2.2 million. 

switching to godzilla for same "hour a day" usage, the count dropped from 2.2

mil down to 14k, a drop of 99 percent.



Becks device is safer than godzilla.  Godzilla needs current reversed every 5-10

minutes to avoid electrolysis effects.  Beck's reverses itself 8 times per

second, and there's no such effects.



The problem is this:  the reversals are painful when you turn up the power. 

people tend to lower it to avoid the pain.  in some cases, since they think it

is so "safe" they endure the pain and turn it up only to find out that it can

burn their skin, just like godzilla can burn.  eventually they set it to low

levels.  Beck said wear it 2 hours a day.  Some people will just not do that.



secondly, when a germ is hit in one direction it begins to degrade, but if the

direction is suddenly reversed, some of this effect might be undone, eg: you

knock of an electron from one area, the next instant the electron returns from

the opposite direction.  If it will not cause harm to you, it probably will also

be less harmful to the germ, as well.  You have to decide what you want.



my effort is to make this so simple that a germ can be taken out anywhere by

anyone.  Just like a germ can take out anyone anywhere.  Even up.  So there!



bG





--- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, "texan_rio" <texan_rio@...>

wrote:

>

>

> Now I know that after that rant that this is going to sound sarcastic but you

say that "the latest are truly great", how are they truly great? I really do

want to know.

>

> Anyone else out there have any insight or experience to share about the Beck

Magnetic Pulser. And I'd also like to know how the Sota Blood Purifier stacks up

against the godzilla. Are they equal in effect? Can they be used

interchangeably?

>

> Thanks,

> Rio

>

Thank you, bG, I appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions so

thoroughly.



So, this is my understanding of how it works: The Beck Magnetic Pulser gets the

lymphatic fluids moving, but it is unlikely that this is effective at removing a

virus (you used hep-c as an example) from the lymphatic cell, itself.



What, in your opinion, is the effectiveness of the Beck Blood Purifier when worn

for 2 hours? Also can this be used at the site of interest or is it just for use

on the wrist?



And the Godzilla, is it more effective on the wrists or at the site of interest?

Can it be used as a preventative / immune system booster on the wrists? Also, is

there any risk of electroporation? Should any foods, herbs, supplements be

avoided when using this?



Of course, all that I am asking for with all of these questions is your opinion

from your expertise, research and/or experience.



I welcome answers to these questions from anyone out there who has knowledge of

the subject and I hope others will feel free to ask questions of their own.



Thanks again,

Rio

hi, yr welcome but you have it turned around. "pulser" depends on context.  the

blood pulser, the mag pulser.  the bloodp is ok, will kill germs in my opinion,

but the mag pulser will not.

also, godzilla is more powerful than either for kiling germs

b



--- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, "texan_rio" <texan_rio@...>

wrote:

>

> Thank you, bG, I appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions so

thoroughly.

>

> So, this is my understanding of how it works: The Beck Magnetic Pulser gets

the lymphatic fluids moving, but it is unlikely that this is effective at

removing a virus (you used hep-c as an example) from the lymphatic cell, itself.

>

> What, in your opinion, is the effectiveness of the Beck Blood Purifier when

worn for 2 hours? Also can this be used at the site of interest or is it just

for use on the wrist?

>

> And the Godzilla, is it more effective on the wrists or at the site of

interest? Can it be used as a preventative / immune system booster on the

wrists? Also, is there any risk of electroporation? Should any foods, herbs,

supplements be avoided when using this?

>

> Of course, all that I am asking for with all of these questions is your

opinion from your expertise, research and/or experience.

>

> I welcome answers to these questions from anyone out there who has knowledge

of the subject and I hope others will feel free to ask questions of their own.

>

> Thanks again,

> Rio

>

...it is effective at the site.  if the bugs are in blood, then use a wrist or

ankle or other blood vessel site.  usually they are NOT in blood. It doesn't

hurt to use a little in blood, but if infection is on your kneecap, use it

there, on face, use it there, etc.



no apparently no poration effects from any of these things.  Beck's patients

were really sick fellas and hypochondriacs, little inbetween so everything that

went wrong must be "substances".  To porate you need 1000 volts applied in a

high intensity spike.  There can be an increase in cellular metabolism, higher

oxidative capacities of the cells, meaning they are healthier and more active

during and maybe after electrification.  That could draw in more of everything,

oxygen, nutrients, drugs, etc.  But that should not be a large difference in my

opinion.  Examine the files on the other group: microelectricitygermkiller, not

messages, menu/files, and you probably will see no reports of interractions. 

there is soreness in joints sometimes due to failure to reverse the current

every 5-10 minutes.



You can do a lot with these simple devices if you take time to understand the

way they work.  most people won't do that, but those who do have truly

discovered something priceless.



bG



> And the Godzilla, is it more effective on the wrists or at the site of

interest? Can it be used as a preventative / immune system booster on the

wrists? Also, is there any risk of electroporation? Should any foods, herbs,

supplements be avoided when using this?

>

> Of course, all that I am asking for with all of these questions is your

opinion from your expertise, research and/or experience.

>

> I welcome answers to these questions from anyone out there who has knowledge

of the subject and I hope others will feel free to ask questions of their own.

>

> Thanks again,

> Rio

Thank you, that clears up a lot. It's a huge relief, actually. I did the full

regimen with the slow build up and then 28 days on the protocol then tapering

off; during that whole time I only ate food that I prepared myself so that I

would know exactly what was in it and I stopped all supplements.



I am still wondering, though, what the strength of the magnetic pulser is in

practical application. I know that moving lymphatic fluids is important, so I

don't completely regret the expense, but I guess I'm a little disappointed. Do

you think there is any merit to using the magnetic pulser prior to using the

godzilla (as in the Beck Protocol), does this help the godzilla do a more

thorough job or is it, in your opinion, not necessary at all?



Rio





--- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, "bob luhrs" <bobluhrs@...>

wrote:

>

>

> ...it is effective at the site.  if the bugs are in blood, then use a wrist or

ankle or other blood vessel site.  usually they are NOT in blood. It doesn't

hurt to use a little in blood, but if infection is on your kneecap, use it

there, on face, use it there, etc.

>

> no apparently no poration effects from any of these things.  Beck's patients

were really sick fellas and hypochondriacs, little inbetween so everything that

went wrong must be "substances".  To porate you need 1000 volts applied in a

high intensity spike.  There can be an increase in cellular metabolism, higher

oxidative capacities of the cells, meaning they are healthier and more active

during and maybe after electrification.  That could draw in more of everything,

oxygen, nutrients, drugs, etc.  But that should not be a large difference in my

opinion.  Examine the files on the other group: microelectricitygermkiller, not

messages, menu/files, and you probably will see no reports of interractions. 

there is soreness in joints sometimes due to failure to reverse the current

every 5-10 minutes.

>

> You can do a lot with these simple devices if you take time to understand the

way they work.  most people won't do that, but those who do have truly

discovered something priceless.

>

> bG

I forgot to ask your opinion on the use of colloidal silver and ozonated water

with the godzilla unit. Any benefit? Are they necessary?



Rio

no data



--- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, "texan_rio" <texan_rio@...>

wrote:

>

> I forgot to ask your opinion on the use of colloidal silver and ozonated water

with the godzilla unit. Any benefit? Are they necessary?

>

> Rio

>

Hi Rio,

I think, you should study the Beck protocol and Becks other informations.

The main idea of Beck, beside electrical currant, is, to combine CS Ozone,

currant and magnetic pulses.



Godzilla is only another way for to kill the germs etc by electrical currant and

it is not new, as you can see at various patents. The idea, why Beck didn t use

DC currant was, to avoid skin irrigations. The only differance for use is, with

the Beck zapper, you need much more time than with godzilla for the same effect.



Beck stated, that the germs came back after a time, because some rested in the

lymphatic system. Thats why he started to use magnetic pulser, to activate the

lymphatic system.



Anyhow, by the view of an electrical engineer, a magnetic impulse induce an

electrical currant, if a currant can flow. This effect will damage germs

everywhere - but maybe not very effective.



I found an interesting place about using currant to treat cancer, which is very

similar to the godzilla, look at http://www.cancer-treatment.net/index.htm



jogi













--- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, "texan_rio" <texan_rio@...>

wrote:

>

> I forgot to ask your opinion on the use of colloidal silver and ozonated water

with the godzilla unit. Any benefit? Are they necessary?

>

> Rio

>

the best would be to get CD4 tested, take meds as indicated, use beck in

addition.  I am not convinced beck can reach the majority of hiv, no matter what

beck said and if the meds are not used it could be a very disastrous result.

beck affects the secondary infections, removing any symptoms, and disguising

underlying progress of hiv against cd4.  beck said your symptoms will improve

"regardless of test results".  but the test results show immunity being

destroyed.

bG



--- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, "jogi_54" <jogi54@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi Rio,

> I think, you should study the Beck protocol and Becks other informations.

> The main idea of Beck, beside electrical currant, is, to combine CS Ozone,

currant and magnetic pulses.

>

> Godzilla is only another way for to kill the germs etc by electrical currant

and it is not new, as you can see at various patents. The idea, why Beck didn t

use DC currant was, to avoid skin irrigations. The only differance for use is,

with the Beck zapper, you need much more time than with godzilla for the same

effect.

>

> Beck stated, that the germs came back after a time, because some rested in the

lymphatic system. Thats why he started to use magnetic pulser, to activate the

lymphatic system.

>

> Anyhow, by the view of an electrical engineer, a magnetic impulse induce an

electrical currant, if a currant can flow. This effect will damage germs

everywhere - but maybe not very effective.

>

> I found an interesting place about using currant to treat cancer, which is

very similar to the godzilla, look at http://www.cancer-treatment.net/index.htm

>

> jogi

>

>

>

>

>

>

> --- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, "texan_rio" <texan_rio@>

wrote:

> >

> > I forgot to ask your opinion on the use of colloidal silver and ozonated

water with the godzilla unit. Any benefit? Are they necessary?

> >

> > Rio

> >

>

that goes for godzilla, too, it would be best used with standard medical

program.



bG



--- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, "bob luhrs" <bobluhrs@...>

wrote:

>

> the best would be to get CD4 tested, take meds as indicated, use beck in

addition.  I am not convinced beck can reach the majority of hiv, no matter what

beck said and if the meds are not used it could be a very disastrous result.

beck affects the secondary infections, removing any symptoms, and disguising

underlying progress of hiv against cd4.  beck said your symptoms will improve

"regardless of test results".  but the test results show immunity being

destroyed.

> bG

>

> --- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, "jogi_54" <jogi54@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Rio,

> > I think, you should study the Beck protocol and Becks other informations.

> > The main idea of Beck, beside electrical currant, is, to combine CS Ozone,

currant and magnetic pulses.

> >

> > Godzilla is only another way for to kill the germs etc by electrical currant

and it is not new, as you can see at various patents. The idea, why Beck didn t

use DC currant was, to avoid skin irrigations. The only differance for use is,

with the Beck zapper, you need much more time than with godzilla for the same

effect.

> >

> > Beck stated, that the germs came back after a time, because some rested in

the lymphatic system. Thats why he started to use magnetic pulser, to activate

the lymphatic system.

> >

> > Anyhow, by the view of an electrical engineer, a magnetic impulse induce an

electrical currant, if a currant can flow. This effect will damage germs

everywhere - but maybe not very effective.

> >

> > I found an interesting place about using currant to treat cancer, which is

very similar to the godzilla, look at http://www.cancer-treatment.net/index.htm

> >

> > jogi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, "texan_rio" <texan_rio@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > I forgot to ask your opinion on the use of colloidal silver and ozonated

water with the godzilla unit. Any benefit? Are they necessary?

> > >

> > > Rio

> > >

> >

>

Thanks Randy, I'd definitely like to hear your results.



Rio





--- In microelectricitygermkiller2@yahoogroups.com, Randy R <ranradd@...> wrote:

>

> Good post actually. I'm currently building a few different kinds of pulsers

based on some of the schematics posted on the Beck-blood-electrification site. I

did make a pulser out of a photo strobe and it did reduce back pain, so it does

something. But Beck says that it does kill germs. Based on lines of flux cutting

across things in the body, I could assume that it is plausible. However, the

experience here at this site seems to be its not all Beck touted. But then the

statement that the new Sota device is very good. One of the schematics I

purchased from a Michael Forrest, called the multi pulsar, he insists is good

for a specific variety of things. Anyway, I'm building 3 pulsers, with a variety

of coils to see which might be better, and which one holds up. I'll report when

done.

> Randy