I have seen a client twice about her phobia for movement (in

particular flying) and I don't feel I am making enough headway.  Part

of her phobia stems from the fact that she is deaf in one ear and

believes her internal balance is responsible for her body sensations

(drop sensation in the stomach and giddiness)



Can I have some advice please about clearing her belief sheilds about

being free of her phobia as it is like concrete and I'm finding it

very had to break it down.  She has tried all manner of treatments

before (hypno, counselling, flight simulation) and has spent thousands

of pounds and nothing has worked.  She has come to try ET and EFT but

she believes it wont work and made that quite clear from the start.



I have tried statements of "Even tho I'll never be free of this" and

"Even tho I've tried all these things nothing has worked"  and I've

managed to get her down from 10 to 8 even with the gamut sequence.  I

can tell from her body language that she is still shielded and negative.



We used ET on the first session and cleared her earliest memory.  We

even used ET to great success on running through in her mind being at

the airport to actually taking off and landing in a plane.  All body

responses flowed some from her stomach and down the legs.  On other

things she had a complete total body response which we found the

epicentre to be the head and released it.



The trouble was one week later on her second appointment she was

being negative and unable to focus, move or shift her blockages. And

there seemed an unwillingness to even try.  I explored where her

beliefs are and she said in the head.  When I tried to ET the feeling

in her head her mind would not focus on it.  Part of me thinks this is

due to the fact that she had a shift and her Autogenic Universe is

trying to cling on to her belief system and patterns of behaviour.



I decided to move to EFT so that her mind had some words to focus on.

  I still don't feel I have managed to break through her barriers and

it feels as though I need to tackle her belief mechanism as it is

stopping me getting to the actual problem.  She keeps telling me how

hard she is, it's almost like she wants to defeat yet another therapy!



I tried tapping on the actual fear that "even though I dread the body

sensations" which started as a 10, but that only cleared to 8 after

several rounds.



Any ideas please would be gratefully appreciated.  I am seeing her

again next week.



So many thanks

Kim

Hi Kim



It sounds like your client isn't giving herself permission to heal, for some

reason - might be worth digging a bit on that. Feelings of self-worth, or belief

that she doesn't deserve to heal come to mind, as well as her conviction that

it's impossible to overcome this.



Try changing the statements a bit, such as instead of 'Even though I'll never be

free of this...' you could change that to 'Even though I BELIEVE I'll never be

free or this....'



You could then extend that statement further after a few rounds, such as adding

'.......I allow myself to be free of it'  - or 'I choose to be free of it'



There are a lot of helpful hints on permission to heal on the following link



http://search.emofree.com/search?q=statements+for+permission+to+heal&entqr=0&out\

put=xml_no_dtd&ud=1&client=emofree&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF-8&proxystylesheet=emofree&sit\

e=emofree&getfields=emo-pic.emo-video.description



Hope you find something to break through her armour soon!



hugs

June





From: kims_heavens_touch

Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:08 PM

To: meridiantherapy@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [MET] Can someone help with me a flight/movement phobia





I have seen a client twice about her phobia for movement (in

particular flying) and I don't feel I am making enough headway. Part

of her phobia stems from the fact that she is deaf in one ear and

believes her internal balance is responsible for her body sensations

(drop sensation in the stomach and giddiness)



Can I have some advice please about clearing her belief sheilds about

being free of her phobia as it is like concrete and I'm finding it

very had to break it down. She has tried all manner of treatments

before (hypno, counselling, flight simulation) and has spent thousands

of pounds and nothing has worked. She has come to try ET and EFT but

she believes it wont work and made that quite clear from the start.



I have tried statements of "Even tho I'll never be free of this" and

"Even tho I've tried all these things nothing has worked" and I've

managed to get her down from 10 to 8 even with the gamut sequence. I

can tell from her body language that she is still shielded and negative.



We used ET on the first session and cleared her earliest memory. We

even used ET to great success on running through in her mind being at

the airport to actually taking off and landing in a plane. All body

responses flowed some from her stomach and down the legs. On other

things she had a complete total body response which we found the

epicentre to be the head and released it.



The trouble was one week later on her second appointment she was

being negative and unable to focus, move or shift her blockages. And

there seemed an unwillingness to even try. I explored where her

beliefs are and she said in the head. When I tried to ET the feeling

in her head her mind would not focus on it. Part of me thinks this is

due to the fact that she had a shift and her Autogenic Universe is

trying to cling on to her belief system and patterns of behaviour.



I decided to move to EFT so that her mind had some words to focus on.

I still don't feel I have managed to break through her barriers and

it feels as though I need to tackle her belief mechanism as it is

stopping me getting to the actual problem. She keeps telling me how

hard she is, it's almost like she wants to defeat yet another therapy!



I tried tapping on the actual fear that "even though I dread the body

sensations" which started as a 10, but that only cleared to 8 after

several rounds.



Any ideas please would be gratefully appreciated. I am seeing her

again next week.



So many thanks

Kim











[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I had another thought, maybe subconsciously your client is benefitting in some

way by not allowing herself to heal. This is often termed 'Secondary Gains', and

you might need to look at that for possible issues to deal with first. Try this

link for more info;



http://search.emofree.com/search?q=secondary+gains&entqr=0&output=xml_no_dtd&ud=\

1&client=emofree&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF-8&proxystylesheet=emofree&site=emofree&getfield\

s=emo-pic.emo-video.description



hugs

June









From: kims_heavens_touch

Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:08 PM

To: meridiantherapy@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [MET] Can someone help with me a flight/movement phobia





I have seen a client twice about her phobia for movement (in

particular flying) and I don't feel I am making enough headway. Part

of her phobia stems from the fact that she is deaf in one ear and

believes her internal balance is responsible for her body sensations

(drop sensation in the stomach and giddiness)



Can I have some advice please about clearing her belief sheilds about

being free of her phobia as it is like concrete and I'm finding it

very had to break it down. She has tried all manner of treatments

before (hypno, counselling, flight simulation) and has spent thousands

of pounds and nothing has worked. She has come to try ET and EFT but

she believes it wont work and made that quite clear from the start.



I have tried statements of "Even tho I'll never be free of this" and

"Even tho I've tried all these things nothing has worked" and I've

managed to get her down from 10 to 8 even with the gamut sequence. I

can tell from her body language that she is still shielded and negative.



We used ET on the first session and cleared her earliest memory. We

even used ET to great success on running through in her mind being at

the airport to actually taking off and landing in a plane. All body

responses flowed some from her stomach and down the legs. On other

things she had a complete total body response which we found the

epicentre to be the head and released it.



The trouble was one week later on her second appointment she was

being negative and unable to focus, move or shift her blockages. And

there seemed an unwillingness to even try. I explored where her

beliefs are and she said in the head. When I tried to ET the feeling

in her head her mind would not focus on it. Part of me thinks this is

due to the fact that she had a shift and her Autogenic Universe is

trying to cling on to her belief system and patterns of behaviour.



I decided to move to EFT so that her mind had some words to focus on.

I still don't feel I have managed to break through her barriers and

it feels as though I need to tackle her belief mechanism as it is

stopping me getting to the actual problem. She keeps telling me how

hard she is, it's almost like she wants to defeat yet another therapy!



I tried tapping on the actual fear that "even though I dread the body

sensations" which started as a 10, but that only cleared to 8 after

several rounds.



Any ideas please would be gratefully appreciated. I am seeing her

again next week.



So many thanks

Kim











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Thank you so much June for the info.  I will have a really good read

of it.  It kept me awake for about an hour last night trying to think

of if I had not covered an angle or what else I could try.  I will

take a look at her secondary gains although she tells me she feels

really bad for having this phobia as it affects her partner (she left

him at an airport once as she refused to go on the plane and he had to

go alone).



I did ask her if she was ready to release this and she said yes but I

have to say I wasn't convinced.  I will work on her willingness to

self heal.    We spoke at length about her Blueprint and that she

wasn't born with these beliefs and fears.  She has said I have given

her a lot to think about.  I do believe she needs some time to digest

the info.



Let's hope next week goes better.  I'll let you all know and if anyone

else has a thought, please chip in



Thanks to all

Kim





--- In meridiantherapy@yahoogroups.com, "June" <jbcolledge@...> wrote:

>

> I had another thought, maybe subconsciously your client is

benefitting in some way by not allowing herself to heal. This is often

termed 'Secondary Gains', and you might need to look at that for

possible issues to deal with first. Try this link for more info;

>

>

http://search.emofree.com/search?q=secondary+gains&entqr=0&output=xml_no_dtd&ud=\

1&client=emofree&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF-8&proxystylesheet=emofree&site=emofree&getfield\

s=emo-pic.emo-video.description

>

> hugs

> June

>

>

>

>

> From: kims_heavens_touch

> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:08 PM

> To: meridiantherapy@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: [MET] Can someone help with me a flight/movement phobia

>

>

> I have seen a client twice about her phobia for movement (in

> particular flying) and I don't feel I am making enough headway. Part

> of her phobia stems from the fact that she is deaf in one ear and

> believes her internal balance is responsible for her body sensations

> (drop sensation in the stomach and giddiness)

>

> Can I have some advice please about clearing her belief sheilds about

> being free of her phobia as it is like concrete and I'm finding it

> very had to break it down. She has tried all manner of treatments

> before (hypno, counselling, flight simulation) and has spent thousands

> of pounds and nothing has worked. She has come to try ET and EFT but

> she believes it wont work and made that quite clear from the start.

>

> I have tried statements of "Even tho I'll never be free of this" and

> "Even tho I've tried all these things nothing has worked" and I've

> managed to get her down from 10 to 8 even with the gamut sequence. I

> can tell from her body language that she is still shielded and

negative.

>

> We used ET on the first session and cleared her earliest memory. We

> even used ET to great success on running through in her mind being at

> the airport to actually taking off and landing in a plane. All body

> responses flowed some from her stomach and down the legs. On other

> things she had a complete total body response which we found the

> epicentre to be the head and released it.

>

> The trouble was one week later on her second appointment she was

> being negative and unable to focus, move or shift her blockages. And

> there seemed an unwillingness to even try. I explored where her

> beliefs are and she said in the head. When I tried to ET the feeling

> in her head her mind would not focus on it. Part of me thinks this is

> due to the fact that she had a shift and her Autogenic Universe is

> trying to cling on to her belief system and patterns of behaviour.

>

> I decided to move to EFT so that her mind had some words to focus on.

> I still don't feel I have managed to break through her barriers and

> it feels as though I need to tackle her belief mechanism as it is

> stopping me getting to the actual problem. She keeps telling me how

> hard she is, it's almost like she wants to defeat yet another therapy!

>

> I tried tapping on the actual fear that "even though I dread the body

> sensations" which started as a 10, but that only cleared to 8 after

> several rounds.

>

> Any ideas please would be gratefully appreciated. I am seeing her

> again next week.

>

> So many thanks

> Kim

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

I agree about the "secondary gains", and that could very well be to

preserve an important aspect of her identity: being a "hard person" to

help.  On some level, she might derive a sense of

strength/stability/homeostasis through her unconscious stubbornness to

change.  You may want to focus on a couple of points: 1 - the body and

mind's natural resistance to change (safety issues on biological,

social and psychological levels) 2 - Preserve her identity by aligning

strength (and whatever other self-image aspects you may dig up) to the

change you're after.



Here are a couple of setup statements you may want to try:

-Even though my body feels threatened by this possible change....

-Even though my body feels safer with this fear....

-Even though, strangely, it's better for me to keep this fear

-Even though I just don't want to change, it feels scary...



-Even though I'm a "hard nut to crack"...

-Even though you can't help me, I'm a tough patient, nobody can help me

-Even though becoming fearless of flying/movement (?) will totally

disrupt my life...who will I be without this part of me?....

-Even though this can't possibly work, it's just repeating silly words

and tapping...



-What if this does work?....

-What if I change and no longer have this fear?...

-I wonder if I can feel safe on all levels without this fear?

-I wonder if I really can allow myself to change and be free?

-What will my (friends, spouse, etc.) think if I get over this?

-Maybe I can feel safe and peaceful with this change...

-What if I can be strong, maybe even stronger by allowing myself to

change?



Anyway, just a few thoughts that came to mind.  I wish you the very best,

Peter



--- In meridiantherapy@yahoogroups.com, "June" <jbcolledge@...> wrote:

>

> I had another thought, maybe subconsciously your client is

benefitting in some way by not allowing herself to heal. This is often

termed 'Secondary Gains', and you might need to look at that for

possible issues to deal with first. Try this link for more info;

>

>

http://search.emofree.com/search?q=secondary+gains&entqr=0&output=xml_no_dtd&ud=\

1&client=emofree&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF-8&proxystylesheet=emofree&site=emofree&getfield\

s=emo-pic.emo-video.description

>

> hugs

> June

>

>

>

>

> From: kims_heavens_touch

> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:08 PM

> To: meridiantherapy@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: [MET] Can someone help with me a flight/movement phobia

>

>

> I have seen a client twice about her phobia for movement (in

> particular flying) and I don't feel I am making enough headway. Part

> of her phobia stems from the fact that she is deaf in one ear and

> believes her internal balance is responsible for her body sensations

> (drop sensation in the stomach and giddiness)

>

> Can I have some advice please about clearing her belief sheilds about

> being free of her phobia as it is like concrete and I'm finding it

> very had to break it down. She has tried all manner of treatments

> before (hypno, counselling, flight simulation) and has spent thousands

> of pounds and nothing has worked. She has come to try ET and EFT but

> she believes it wont work and made that quite clear from the start.

>

> I have tried statements of "Even tho I'll never be free of this" and

> "Even tho I've tried all these things nothing has worked" and I've

> managed to get her down from 10 to 8 even with the gamut sequence. I

> can tell from her body language that she is still shielded and

negative.

>

> We used ET on the first session and cleared her earliest memory. We

> even used ET to great success on running through in her mind being at

> the airport to actually taking off and landing in a plane. All body

> responses flowed some from her stomach and down the legs. On other

> things she had a complete total body response which we found the

> epicentre to be the head and released it.

>

> The trouble was one week later on her second appointment she was

> being negative and unable to focus, move or shift her blockages. And

> there seemed an unwillingness to even try. I explored where her

> beliefs are and she said in the head. When I tried to ET the feeling

> in her head her mind would not focus on it. Part of me thinks this is

> due to the fact that she had a shift and her Autogenic Universe is

> trying to cling on to her belief system and patterns of behaviour.

>

> I decided to move to EFT so that her mind had some words to focus on.

> I still don't feel I have managed to break through her barriers and

> it feels as though I need to tackle her belief mechanism as it is

> stopping me getting to the actual problem. She keeps telling me how

> hard she is, it's almost like she wants to defeat yet another therapy!

>

> I tried tapping on the actual fear that "even though I dread the body

> sensations" which started as a 10, but that only cleared to 8 after

> several rounds.

>

> Any ideas please would be gratefully appreciated. I am seeing her

> again next week.

>

> So many thanks

> Kim

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

rneyHi Kim,

Your situation reminds very much of my case study earlier in the year as I

qualified for EFT.

I had a friend with impotence problems as well as facing redundancy and he was

very hard of hearing.

I found that I had to do a lot of emotinal work on his feeling towards his

hearing, as although it did not effect directly his sexual ability, it did have

underlying emotional issues in respect of confidence. The whole flight thing may

also mask the underlying cause.

Your clients hearing issues seem almost spererate, however i would be inclined

to look at how her hearing makes her feel also.

Secondly how does your client know it has not worked?

Interestingly my case study came each week, and when I asked he said nope no

change. However he met a new girl friend just afer I did some ET work with him

ablout lowering shields. He reports that his sex life has never been better!!!

Is there a way you could arrange to meet her at a local airport, tap about the

awkwardness and feeling she has about thinking about it etc before hand,

Actually try it out? 



Just a few thoughts on stuff I learned.... sorry if its case of teaching granny

to suck eggs.

Jo x



----- Original Message ----

From: kims_heavens_touch <eftoffice@...>

To: meridiantherapy@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, 17 July, 2008 9:08:42 PM

Subject: [MET] Can someone help with me a flight/movement phobia





I have seen a client twice about her phobia for movement (in

particular flying) and I don't feel I am making enough headway. Part

of her phobia stems from the fact that she is deaf in one ear and

believes her internal balance is responsible for her body sensations

(drop sensation in the stomach and giddiness)



Can I have some advice please about clearing her belief sheilds about

being free of her phobia as it is like concrete and I'm finding it

very had to break it down. She has tried all manner of treatments

before (hypno, counselling, flight simulation) and has spent thousands

of pounds and nothing has worked. She has come to try ET and EFT but

she believes it wont work and made that quite clear from the start.



I have tried statements of "Even tho I'll never be free of this" and

"Even tho I've tried all these things nothing has worked" and I've

managed to get her down from 10 to 8 even with the gamut sequence. I

can tell from her body language that she is still shielded and negative.



We used ET on the first session and cleared her earliest memory. We

even used ET to great success on running through in her mind being at

the airport to actually taking off and landing in a plane. All body

responses flowed some from her stomach and down the legs. On other

things she had a complete total body response which we found the

epicentre to be the head and released it.



The trouble was one week later on her second appointment she was

being negative and unable to focus, move or shift her blockages. And

there seemed an unwillingness to even try. I explored where her

beliefs are and she said in the head. When I tried to ET the feeling

in her head her mind would not focus on it. Part of me thinks this is

due to the fact that she had a shift and her Autogenic Universe is

trying to cling on to her belief system and patterns of behaviour.



I decided to move to EFT so that her mind had some words to focus on.

I still don't feel I have managed to break through her barriers and

it feels as though I need to tackle her belief mechanism as it is

stopping me getting to the actual problem. She keeps telling me how

hard she is, it's almost like she wants to defeat yet another therapy!



I tried tapping on the actual fear that "even though I dread the body

sensations" which started as a 10, but that only cleared to 8 after

several rounds.



Any ideas please would be gratefully appreciated. I am seeing her

again next week.



So many thanks

Kim









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Hi Jo,  Thanks for that advice, I will also explore her feelings about her

hearing.

We haven't touched on that yet.  She went deaf at the age of 2 and might

have some

residual feelings about that.



I was thinking today that she needs a live test.  She also gets the same

sensations when

she is being driven in a car (she is OK when she drives herself).  So I plan

to take her

out for a drive this week and soften and flow as we go....!   I think a

practical demonstration

is definitely called for here.



Everyones input has been so appreciated.  Where as I was feeling quite

deflated after

the appointment this week, I now can't wait to see her again.



Love

Kim



On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Joanne Frost <

yourtranquiljourney@...> wrote:



>   rneyHi Kim,

> Your situation reminds very much of my case study earlier in the year as I

> qualified for EFT.

> I had a friend with impotence problems as well as facing redundancy and he

> was very hard of hearing.

> I found that I had to do a lot of emotinal work on his feeling towards his

> hearing, as although it did not effect directly his sexual ability, it did

> have underlying emotional issues in respect of confidence. The whole flight

> thing may also mask the underlying cause.

> Your clients hearing issues seem almost spererate, however i would be

> inclined to look at how her hearing makes her feel also.

> Secondly how does your client know it has not worked?

> Interestingly my case study came each week, and when I asked he said nope

> no change. However he met a new girl friend just afer I did some ET work

> with him ablout lowering shields. He reports that his sex life has never

> been better!!!

> Is there a way you could arrange to meet her at a local airport, tap about

> the awkwardness and feeling she has about thinking about it etc before hand,

> Actually try it out?

>

> Just a few thoughts on stuff I learned.... sorry if its case of teaching

> granny to suck eggs.

> Jo x

>

>

> ----- Original Message ----

> From: kims_heavens_touch <eftoffice@...<eftoffice%40googlemail.com>

> >

> To: meridiantherapy@yahoogroups.com <meridiantherapy%40yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Thursday, 17 July, 2008 9:08:42 PM

> Subject: [MET] Can someone help with me a flight/movement phobia

>

> I have seen a client twice about her phobia for movement (in

> particular flying) and I don't feel I am making enough headway. Part

> of her phobia stems from the fact that she is deaf in one ear and

> believes her internal balance is responsible for her body sensations

> (drop sensation in the stomach and giddiness)

>

> Can I have some advice please about clearing her belief sheilds about

> being free of her phobia as it is like concrete and I'm finding it

> very had to break it down. She has tried all manner of treatments

> before (hypno, counselling, flight simulation) and has spent thousands

> of pounds and nothing has worked. She has come to try ET and EFT but

> she believes it wont work and made that quite clear from the start.

>

> I have tried statements of "Even tho I'll never be free of this" and

> "Even tho I've tried all these things nothing has worked" and I've

> managed to get her down from 10 to 8 even with the gamut sequence. I

> can tell from her body language that she is still shielded and negative.

>

> We used ET on the first session and cleared her earliest memory. We

> even used ET to great success on running through in her mind being at

> the airport to actually taking off and landing in a plane. All body

> responses flowed some from her stomach and down the legs. On other

> things she had a complete total body response which we found the

> epicentre to be the head and released it.

>

> The trouble was one week later on her second appointment she was

> being negative and unable to focus, move or shift her blockages. And

> there seemed an unwillingness to even try. I explored where her

> beliefs are and she said in the head. When I tried to ET the feeling

> in her head her mind would not focus on it. Part of me thinks this is

> due to the fact that she had a shift and her Autogenic Universe is

> trying to cling on to her belief system and patterns of behaviour.

>

> I decided to move to EFT so that her mind had some words to focus on.

> I still don't feel I have managed to break through her barriers and

> it feels as though I need to tackle her belief mechanism as it is

> stopping me getting to the actual problem. She keeps telling me how

> hard she is, it's almost like she wants to defeat yet another therapy!

>

> I tried tapping on the actual fear that "even though I dread the body

> sensations" which started as a 10, but that only cleared to 8 after

> several rounds.

>

> Any ideas please would be gratefully appreciated. I am seeing her

> again next week.

>

> So many thanks

> Kim

>

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