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Re: Can someone help with me a flight/movement phobia

I agree about the "secondary gains", and that could very well be to
preserve an important aspect of her identity: being a "hard person" to
help. On some level, she might derive a sense of
strength/stability/homeostasis through her unconscious stubbornness to
change. You may want to focus on a couple of points: 1 - the body and
mind's natural resistance to change (safety issues on biological,
social and psychological levels) 2 - Preserve her identity by aligning
strength (and whatever other self-image aspects you may dig up) to the
change you're after.

Here are a couple of setup statements you may want to try:
-Even though my body feels threatened by this possible change....
-Even though my body feels safer with this fear....
-Even though, strangely, it's better for me to keep this fear
-Even though I just don't want to change, it feels scary...

-Even though I'm a "hard nut to crack"...
-Even though you can't help me, I'm a tough patient, nobody can help me
-Even though becoming fearless of flying/movement (?) will totally
disrupt my life...who will I be without this part of me?....
-Even though this can't possibly work, it's just repeating silly words
and tapping...

-What if this does work?....
-What if I change and no longer have this fear?...
-I wonder if I can feel safe on all levels without this fear?
-I wonder if I really can allow myself to change and be free?
-What will my (friends, spouse, etc.) think if I get over this?
-Maybe I can feel safe and peaceful with this change...
-What if I can be strong, maybe even stronger by allowing myself to
change?

Anyway, just a few thoughts that came to mind. I wish you the very best,
Peter

--- In meridiantherapy@yahoogroups.com, "June" <jbcolledge@...> wrote:
>
> I had another thought, maybe subconsciously your client is
benefitting in some way by not allowing herself to heal. This is often
termed 'Secondary Gains', and you might need to look at that for
possible issues to deal with first. Try this link for more info;
>
>
http://search.emofree.com/search?q=secondary+gains&entqr=0&output=xml_no_dtd&ud=\
1&client=emofree&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF-8&proxystylesheet=emofree&site=emofree&getfield\
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>
> hugs
> June
>
>
>
>
> From: kims_heavens_touch
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:08 PM
> To: meridiantherapy@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [MET] Can someone help with me a flight/movement phobia
>
>
> I have seen a client twice about her phobia for movement (in
> particular flying) and I don't feel I am making enough headway. Part
> of her phobia stems from the fact that she is deaf in one ear and
> believes her internal balance is responsible for her body sensations
> (drop sensation in the stomach and giddiness)
>
> Can I have some advice please about clearing her belief sheilds about
> being free of her phobia as it is like concrete and I'm finding it
> very had to break it down. She has tried all manner of treatments
> before (hypno, counselling, flight simulation) and has spent thousands
> of pounds and nothing has worked. She has come to try ET and EFT but
> she believes it wont work and made that quite clear from the start.
>
> I have tried statements of "Even tho I'll never be free of this" and
> "Even tho I've tried all these things nothing has worked" and I've
> managed to get her down from 10 to 8 even with the gamut sequence. I
> can tell from her body language that she is still shielded and
negative.
>
> We used ET on the first session and cleared her earliest memory. We
> even used ET to great success on running through in her mind being at
> the airport to actually taking off and landing in a plane. All body
> responses flowed some from her stomach and down the legs. On other
> things she had a complete total body response which we found the
> epicentre to be the head and released it.
>
> The trouble was one week later on her second appointment she was
> being negative and unable to focus, move or shift her blockages. And
> there seemed an unwillingness to even try. I explored where her
> beliefs are and she said in the head. When I tried to ET the feeling
> in her head her mind would not focus on it. Part of me thinks this is
> due to the fact that she had a shift and her Autogenic Universe is
> trying to cling on to her belief system and patterns of behaviour.
>
> I decided to move to EFT so that her mind had some words to focus on.
> I still don't feel I have managed to break through her barriers and
> it feels as though I need to tackle her belief mechanism as it is
> stopping me getting to the actual problem. She keeps telling me how
> hard she is, it's almost like she wants to defeat yet another therapy!
>
> I tried tapping on the actual fear that "even though I dread the body
> sensations" which started as a 10, but that only cleared to 8 after
> several rounds.
>
> Any ideas please would be gratefully appreciated. I am seeing her
> again next week.
>
> So many thanks
> Kim
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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I have seen a client twice about her phobia for movement (in particular flying) and I don't feel I am making enough headway. Part of her phobia stems from the...
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Hi Kim It sounds like your client isn't giving herself permission to heal, for some reason - might be worth digging a bit on that. Feelings of self-worth, or...
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I had another thought, maybe subconsciously your client is benefitting in some way by not allowing herself to heal. This is often termed 'Secondary Gains', and...
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Thank you so much June for the info. I will have a really good read of it. It kept me awake for about an hour last night trying to think of if I had not...
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I agree about the "secondary gains", and that could very well be to preserve an important aspect of her identity: being a "hard person" to help. On some...
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rneyHi Kim, Your situation reminds very much of my case study earlier in the year as I qualified for EFT. I had a friend with impotence problems as well as...
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Hi Jo, Thanks for that advice, I will also explore her feelings about her hearing. We haven't touched on that yet. She went deaf at the age of 2 and might ...
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