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Re: [MET] Can someone help with me a flight/movement phobia

Thank you so much June for the info. I will have a really good read
of it. It kept me awake for about an hour last night trying to think
of if I had not covered an angle or what else I could try. I will
take a look at her secondary gains although she tells me she feels
really bad for having this phobia as it affects her partner (she left
him at an airport once as she refused to go on the plane and he had to
go alone).

I did ask her if she was ready to release this and she said yes but I
have to say I wasn't convinced. I will work on her willingness to
self heal. We spoke at length about her Blueprint and that she
wasn't born with these beliefs and fears. She has said I have given
her a lot to think about. I do believe she needs some time to digest
the info.

Let's hope next week goes better. I'll let you all know and if anyone
else has a thought, please chip in

Thanks to all
Kim


--- In meridiantherapy@yahoogroups.com, "June" <jbcolledge@...> wrote:
>
> I had another thought, maybe subconsciously your client is
benefitting in some way by not allowing herself to heal. This is often
termed 'Secondary Gains', and you might need to look at that for
possible issues to deal with first. Try this link for more info;
>
>
http://search.emofree.com/search?q=secondary+gains&entqr=0&output=xml_no_dtd&ud=\
1&client=emofree&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF-8&proxystylesheet=emofree&site=emofree&getfield\
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>
> hugs
> June
>
>
>
>
> From: kims_heavens_touch
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:08 PM
> To: meridiantherapy@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [MET] Can someone help with me a flight/movement phobia
>
>
> I have seen a client twice about her phobia for movement (in
> particular flying) and I don't feel I am making enough headway. Part
> of her phobia stems from the fact that she is deaf in one ear and
> believes her internal balance is responsible for her body sensations
> (drop sensation in the stomach and giddiness)
>
> Can I have some advice please about clearing her belief sheilds about
> being free of her phobia as it is like concrete and I'm finding it
> very had to break it down. She has tried all manner of treatments
> before (hypno, counselling, flight simulation) and has spent thousands
> of pounds and nothing has worked. She has come to try ET and EFT but
> she believes it wont work and made that quite clear from the start.
>
> I have tried statements of "Even tho I'll never be free of this" and
> "Even tho I've tried all these things nothing has worked" and I've
> managed to get her down from 10 to 8 even with the gamut sequence. I
> can tell from her body language that she is still shielded and
negative.
>
> We used ET on the first session and cleared her earliest memory. We
> even used ET to great success on running through in her mind being at
> the airport to actually taking off and landing in a plane. All body
> responses flowed some from her stomach and down the legs. On other
> things she had a complete total body response which we found the
> epicentre to be the head and released it.
>
> The trouble was one week later on her second appointment she was
> being negative and unable to focus, move or shift her blockages. And
> there seemed an unwillingness to even try. I explored where her
> beliefs are and she said in the head. When I tried to ET the feeling
> in her head her mind would not focus on it. Part of me thinks this is
> due to the fact that she had a shift and her Autogenic Universe is
> trying to cling on to her belief system and patterns of behaviour.
>
> I decided to move to EFT so that her mind had some words to focus on.
> I still don't feel I have managed to break through her barriers and
> it feels as though I need to tackle her belief mechanism as it is
> stopping me getting to the actual problem. She keeps telling me how
> hard she is, it's almost like she wants to defeat yet another therapy!
>
> I tried tapping on the actual fear that "even though I dread the body
> sensations" which started as a 10, but that only cleared to 8 after
> several rounds.
>
> Any ideas please would be gratefully appreciated. I am seeing her
> again next week.
>
> So many thanks
> Kim
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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I have seen a client twice about her phobia for movement (in particular flying) and I don't feel I am making enough headway. Part of her phobia stems from the...
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Hi Kim It sounds like your client isn't giving herself permission to heal, for some reason - might be worth digging a bit on that. Feelings of self-worth, or...
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I had another thought, maybe subconsciously your client is benefitting in some way by not allowing herself to heal. This is often termed 'Secondary Gains', and...
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Thank you so much June for the info. I will have a really good read of it. It kept me awake for about an hour last night trying to think of if I had not...
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Jul 18, 2008
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I agree about the "secondary gains", and that could very well be to preserve an important aspect of her identity: being a "hard person" to help. On some...
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Jul 18, 2008
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rneyHi Kim, Your situation reminds very much of my case study earlier in the year as I qualified for EFT. I had a friend with impotence problems as well as...
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Jul 18, 2008
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Hi Jo, Thanks for that advice, I will also explore her feelings about her hearing. We haven't touched on that yet. She went deaf at the age of 2 and might ...
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