HI ALL  MY NAME IS DIANE AND I THINK IM GOING INTO MENOPAUSE.  JUST
WANT TO TALK TO OTHER WOMEN ABOUT THE PHASE IM MY LIFE.  ALSO I ALSO
HAVE HYPOTHRYOIDISM SO IF SOME OF THE MEMBERS HERE HAVE THAT PROBLEM
ALSO I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO TALK THE THEM.

HAVE A GOOD DAY.

DIANE

Thanks Linda!  I don't have ALL the symptoms that normally
come with a period just the back ache and headache and
some bloating but it's not bad so I'm thinking it's just a
"wannabe" period!  I'll give it a few days and see if it
really happens  it's still just spotting right now!  By
the way I have truly enjoyed NOT having them any longer!!
  You'll love it too!!  Sheila


On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 16:23:18 -0800 (PST)
   linda ruth <iwantabath@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Sheila,
>
> I've only missed my periods since this past May, so
> I'm praying it's over! Got the night sweats something
> awful and had a 'feeling' the period in May was going
> to be my last. I'm 55 and didn't realize that you go
> from one 'problem' to the another! I feel like it just
> never ends for us women!
>
> But, to answer your question, I was told that my
> grandmother and my aunt's friend both got A period
> after 5 years of not getting any. You immediately
> think something is wrong, but they were fine. So, I
> doubt it is uncommon, but you probably should still
> see your doctor, just to make sure all is okay.
>
> That is about all I know on this subject, but just
> thought I would share with you, since we're all in
> this together, so to speak.
>
> Good luck,
> Linda
>
>
> --- SHEILA JONES <sheilaa@...> wrote:
>
> >
> > I have a question for you ladies,  I hope you can
> > help me!!  I
> > haven't had a period for over 2 years now!  I sort
> > of figured I was
> > all done with this menopause stuff and glad to be
> > so!  BUT today I
> > have started spotting.....  just like I use to do
> > just before a
> > period was about to start!  Is this normal?  I
> > thought I'd asked you
> > girls before I made a doctor's appointment.  I know
> > if it's messy
> > there they can't check it out. I'll have to wait and
> > see if this
> > turns into a full period but it just shocked me so I
> > thought I'd ask
> > to see if maybe this happens occasionaly.   Thanks
> > for any input you
> > may be able to offer!  Sheila
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Hello Sheila,

I've only missed my periods since this past May, so
I'm praying it's over! Got the night sweats something
awful and had a 'feeling' the period in May was going
to be my last. I'm 55 and didn't realize that you go
from one 'problem' to the another! I feel like it just
never ends for us women!

But, to answer your question, I was told that my
grandmother and my aunt's friend both got A period
after 5 years of not getting any. You immediately
think something is wrong, but they were fine. So, I
doubt it is uncommon, but you probably should still
see your doctor, just to make sure all is okay.

That is about all I know on this subject, but just
thought I would share with you, since we're all in
this together, so to speak.

Good luck,
Linda


--- SHEILA JONES <sheilaa@...> wrote:

>
> I have a question for you ladies,  I hope you can
> help me!!  I
> haven't had a period for over 2 years now!  I sort
> of figured I was
> all done with this menopause stuff and glad to be
> so!  BUT today I
> have started spotting.....  just like I use to do
> just before a
> period was about to start!  Is this normal?  I
> thought I'd asked you
> girls before I made a doctor's appointment.  I know
> if it's messy
> there they can't check it out. I'll have to wait and
> see if this
> turns into a full period but it just shocked me so I
> thought I'd ask
> to see if maybe this happens occasionaly.   Thanks
> for any input you
> may be able to offer!  Sheila
>
>
>
>




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From: SHEILA JONES

To: menopausal@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 1:40 PM

Subject: [menopausal] Hello! Glad I found ya'll!

I have a question for you ladies,  I hope you can help me!!  I
haven't had a period for over 2 years now!  I sort of figured I was
all done with this menopause stuff and glad to be so!  BUT today I
have started spotting.....  just like I use to do just before a
period was about to start!  Is this normal?  I thought I'd asked you
girls before I made a doctor's appointment.  I know if it's messy
there they can't check it out. I'll have to wait and see if this
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I have a question for you ladies,  I hope you can help me!!  I
haven't had a period for over 2 years now!  I sort of figured I was
all done with this menopause stuff and glad to be so!  BUT today I
have started spotting.....  just like I use to do just before a
period was about to start!  Is this normal?  I thought I'd asked you
girls before I made a doctor's appointment.  I know if it's messy
there they can't check it out. I'll have to wait and see if this
turns into a full period but it just shocked me so I thought I'd ask
to see if maybe this happens occasionaly.   Thanks for any input you
may be able to offer!  Sheila

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The fact may not be new, but the consequences can be dire. The
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these studies show that drugs deplete nutrients whether by
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could lead to further and more serious consequences. In addition, the
elderly are more likely to use non-prescription drugs such as non-
steroidal anti-inflammatories or antacids. Generally, they are
completely unaware that these might make them deficient in calcium,
phosphorus, folic acid and iron.

The elderly are only one example. Women are another group of drug
consumers who should be especially concerned with drug-induced
nutrient depletion. Few women know that oral contraceptives lower the
levels of such vital nutrients as Vitamin B2, B6 and B12, Vitamin C,
folic acid, magnesium and Zinc. Mainstream hormone replacement
(chiefly Premarin, but also Estratab and raloxifene) can also lead to
deficiencies in Vitamin B6, magnesium and zinc. Heart patients,
diabetics, epileptics and heavy users of corticosteroids and anti-
inflammatories are also particularly at risk for drug-induced
nutrient deficiencies.

Armed with this knowledge, people can then act to protect their
health by modifying their diets and taking supplements

Drug-induced nutrient deficiencies are not the only source of
people's medical problems. Many people have high stress, pollution,
poor diets and other negative influences on their health. However,
when individuals take medications that create an additional nutrient
depletion, it clearly becomes the proverbial "straw that breaks the
camel's back."


For instance, a person suffering from high blood pressure and heart
disease is likely to be deficient in coenzyme Q10, folic acid and
magnesium. Unfortunatley, the drugs commonly prescribed for
cardiovascular disease and hypertension tend to deplete those very
nutrients. Some of the side effects of those drugs may in fact stem
from drug-induced nutrient deficiencies. To compound the irony,
chances are that if the patient had been taking CoQ10, folic acid and
magnesium, there may not have been a need for these dangerous drugs.
Thus, millions of people develop serious disorders in which nutrient
deficiencies play a significant role.

Most American would benefit from taking nutritional supplements

Those who take prescription drugs have a particular need for learning
more about nutrient depletion so that they can counteract it.

Coenzyme 10

A large number of drugs deplete CoEnzyme Q10. These include such
widely used tricyclic antidepressants as Elavil (amitriptyline) and
Tofranil (imipramine), the anti-psychotic drug Haloperidol,
cholesterol-lowering statin drugs such a Lovastatin and Pravastatin,
beta-blockers, anti-diabetic sulfonylurea drugs such as Glucotrol
(glipizide) and Micronase (glyburide), and the anti-hypertension drug
Clonidine. These common drugs, as well as several others, interfere
with the body's synthesis of CoQ10 and may cause a deficiency of this
crucial compound, so important for energy production and protection
against free radicals. This drug-induced critical nutrient depletion
can be particularly serious in the elderly, who already suffer from
aging-related CoQ10 deficiency. In fact, a CoQ10 deficiency first
manifests itself as cardiovascular symptoms.

The results of some studies suggest that congestive heart failure is
primarily a coenzyme Q10 deficiency disease. The same may be true of
cardiomyopathy, heart muscle impairment which may lead to heart
failure. The symptoms of CoQ10 deficiency can include angina, cardiac
arrhythmias, mitral valve prolapse, high blood pressure (which may
lead to a stroke), gum disease, low energy and a weak immune system
(which may result in greater susceptibility to cancer). Recently it
has also been discovered that CoQ10 if very important for brain
health, and may prevent Parkinsons's Disease and Alzheimer's Disease.

Since CoQ10 is a required cofactor in energy production in the
mitochondria, and thus plays a critical role in the synthesis of ATP,
our "energy molecule", the chemical fuel used by all cells, it is not
surprising that on tell-tale symptom of a CoQ10 deficiency is lack of
energy and a feeling of "running on empty" that users of beta-
blockers and other anti-hypertensive drugs often complain about. It's
very simple; no system in our body can run efficiently and defend
itself against damage and disease if we don't produce enough energy
in our mitochondria, and we can't produce enough energy without
sufficient CoQ10. While CoQ10 is especialy important for the heart
and the brain, it is needed by every organ.

While normally we can synthesize CoQ10, this synthesize is a
complicated 17-step process that depends on adequate nutritiion, with
sufficent vitamins annd trace elements. Thus, malnutrition is one of
the reasons for CoQ10 deficiency. While lean meats and seafood
provide some dietary CoQ10, it is IMPOSSIBLE to obtain enough CoQ10
from diet alone, particularly as we grow older.

Again, one of the huge ironies of mainstream medicine is that many
phsicians have not even heard of CoQ10. They are not aware that
declining levels of CoQ10 play a significant part in the
susceptibility to the diseases of old age, and that so many drugs
aimed at contolling the symptoms of these diseases further depress
CoQ10 levels. Heart patients and diabetics are in critical need of
effective CoQ10 supplements.


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Folic acid Defiency

Another sad case of drug-induced nutient deficiency involves the
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salicylates, ibuprofen, indomethacin and other non-steroidal anti-
infammatories. Celebrex, unfortunately, also depletes folic acid.
Methotrexate, used in the treatment of rheumatoid arthritis and
various cancers such as leukemia and lymphoms, is notorious for
depleting folic acid. Likewise, the use of corticosteroids,
barbiurates (such as phenobarbital), sulfa drugs (such as Bactrim),
certain antibiotics, diuretics and oral contraceptives can cause a
deficiency of folic acid. The widely used anticonvulsive drug
Dilantin (phenytoin) and related drugs also deplete folic acid.

Folic acid deficiency is one of the most common vitamin deficiencies.
In fact, it may be the number one vitamin deficiency in North
America. It is shocking to realize how long it has taken the FDA to
mandate adding folic acid to commercial grain products, chiefly white
flour and breakfast cereal. However, the mandated level of enrichment
is still so low that unless one eats lots of spinach, broccoli,
beans, beets, yeast, eggs and meats (such as liver and kidneys on a
daily basis), one is likely to need folic acid supplements. At
present, only about a quarter of the adult U.S. population takes
supplements that contain folic acid.

Why the enormous importance of this B vitamin? By lowering
homocysteine, this B vitamin aids in the prevention of heart disease
and stroke, and possibly also osteoporosis and Alzheimer's Disease.
Symptoms of folic acid deficiency include elevated homosysteine,
anemia, headaches, fatigue, depression, hair loss, insomnia and
increased susceptibility to infection.

Again, there are medical ironies here. Folic Folic acid is helpful in
relieving arthritic pain, but the drugs commonly prescribed for
arthritis deplete folic acid. The cells of the intestinal lining have
a special need for folic acid because of their high rate of
replication; yet sulfasalazine, a drug commonly prescribed for
colitis, can cause a deficiency of folic acid, ultimately delaying
healing.

It is likely that thousands of premature deaths of heart disease and
stroke could be prevented through adequate supplementation of folic
acid, with at least 400 mcg. It is a tragedy that this very important
vitamin is not more widely used - especially by those who need it the
most including millions of users of anti-inflammatory drugs and oral
contraceptives.

Drugs and Magnesium

Another extremely common dietary deficiency involves magnesium. A
USDA survey reported that 75% of Americans consume less than the RDA
of magnesium. Again, a large number of commonly prescribed drugs
deplete magnesium. These include oral contraceptives and other
conjugated estogens (Premarin) and esterified estrogens (Estrtab).
Various antibiotics, such as tetracyclines and doxycline, also
deplete magnesium. Diuretics are another class of magnesium-depleting
drugs, as is digoxin, used in the treatment of congestive heart
failure. Corticosteroids also deplete magnesium.

Magnesium deficiency goes hand-in -hand with atherosclerosis, heart
attack, hypertension and stroke. Low levels of magnesium can cause a
life-threatening cardiac spasm, a condition caused by levels of
magnesium falling too low, allowing too much calcium to enter the
cells of the heart muscle, resulting in a dangerous cramp.

A minor version of the muscular cramps caused by magnesium deficiency
are the leg cramps that tend to disrupt the sleep of the elderly.
Other symptoms of magnesium deficiency include insomnia,
restlessness, irritability, nervousness, anxiety, depression, fatigue
and osteoporosis. Migraines and PMS appear to be related to magnesium
deficiency.

Interestingly, so is asthma and kidney stones. All in all, magnesium
is by itself one of the best "drugs" that nature has provided. It
could reduce a host of cardiovascular complications. For example;
like aspirin, magnesium inhibits platelet aggregation; like Coumadin,
magnesium thins the blood; Like Procardia, a calcium channel blocker,
magnesium prevents excess calcium uptake; like Vasotec, an ACE
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Zinc Deficiency

Zinc deficiency is also rampant both in the United States and all
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inadequate diet of many elderly people. Vegetarian and semi-
vegetarian diets, low in animal protein and high in phytate-
containing grains, often lead to zinc deficiency. Zinc-depleted soils
are also a factor, as is food conditions such as alcoholism,
diabetes, liver and kidney diseases, macalar degeneration,
inflammatory bowel diseases and melanoma.

Like magnesium, zinc can be depleted by a variety of drugs. These
include carticosteroids, oral contraceptives, oral estrogens used in
hormone replacement therapy (including the designer estrogen
raloxifene), ACE inhibitors such as Lotensil (benazepril) and Altace
(ramipril), diuretics such as Hydrex (benzthiazide), triamterene, and
Bumex (bumetanide), the cholesterol-lowering drug cholestyramine
resin and the anti-ulcer drug Cimetidine.

Deficiency symptoms include slow wound healing, poor sense of smell
and taste, problems with skin, hair and nails (zinc is highly
concentrated in skin, hair and nails), low immune response and
frequent infections, night blindness, excessive sensitivity to light,
depression and even lethargy, anemia, menstrual and fertility
problems, male sterility, various pregnancy complications and joint
paiin (zinc has some anti-inflammatory activity). Benign prostate
enlargement may reflect a zinc deficiency. Even stretch marks during
pregnancy are due partly to zinc deficiency (pregnant women have a
hight risk of being deficient in zinc).White spots on fingernails are
a telltale sign of zinc deficiency.

Drug companies are generally not required to do nutrient depletion
studies, and the funding for such research is difficult to obtain.
Nonetheless, the problem of drug-incuced nutrient depletions can not
be ignored. The importance of adding advanced multivitamin
supplements into your daily regimen, has never been more essential
for overall health and disease prevention.



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----- Original Message -----

From: rodger_chamberlain

To: menopausal@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 3:08 PM

Subject: [menopausal] Periods

Hi guys
Have a question -- I've been on Hormonone replacement for 2 months
now - haven't had a period in 5 months and guess what showed up
today ???????
Is this normal ?????   They doctor did tell me if I started I would
have to come off the hormones ???????
Any help would be appreciated.
Barb




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Hi guys
Have a question -- I've been on Hormonone replacement for 2 months
now - haven't had a period in 5 months and guess what showed up
today ???????
Is this normal ?????   They doctor did tell me if I started I would
have to come off the hormones ???????
Any help would be appreciated.
Barb

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----- Original Message -----

From: rodger_chamberlain

To: menopausal@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 9:02 PM

Subject: [menopausal] Re: Hi Barb

Hi there
This is weird - just saw your post and this is Saturday - must have
been floating around somewhere for a few days ????
I had another blood test done and I found out yesterday that yes my
hormone levels have come up.   That solves one problem and not my
other one.  I'm still suffering from fatique, lack of concentration
etc etc everything that goes along with anxiety and depression.  The
dr thinks celexa isn't working for me and they want me to switch to
paxil.   Man this does get tiresome !!!! 
So I'm in the process of doing that and hopefully it works !!!!!!!
Talk to ya soon
Barb




---



 In menopausal@yahoogroups.com, "myralevingston" <rjlmjl@m...> wrote:
> Well here it is Monday Hope you had a wonderful Mother's day!
> Mine was pretty good. I go to "Curves" in Staunton, Illinois
> I say free but last week it ended up costing me $28.00 dollars.
> $7.00 for a book and $21.oo for a jar of a protin mix your
supposed
> to have one a day. The diet is almost impossible I have a meeting
> this Tuesday I think I'll go to it. But maybe I just follow weight
> watchers points diet and with curves exercise maybe I can lose
some
> weight or atleast not gain any. Have you seen your Dr.? Do you
know
> if the hormones are helping? I've only been taking mine a week so
I
> know I still have alittle while. Talk to you soon  Myra



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Hi there
This is weird - just saw your post and this is Saturday - must have
been floating around somewhere for a few days ????
I had another blood test done and I found out yesterday that yes my
hormone levels have come up.   That solves one problem and not my
other one.  I'm still suffering from fatique, lack of concentration
etc etc everything that goes along with anxiety and depression.  The
dr thinks celexa isn't working for me and they want me to switch to
paxil.   Man this does get tiresome !!!!
So I'm in the process of doing that and hopefully it works !!!!!!!
Talk to ya soon
Barb




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  In menopausal@yahoogroups.com, "myralevingston" <rjlmjl@m...> wrote:
> Well here it is Monday Hope you had a wonderful Mother's day!
> Mine was pretty good. I go to "Curves" in Staunton, Illinois
> I say free but last week it ended up costing me $28.00 dollars.
> $7.00 for a book and $21.oo for a jar of a protin mix your
supposed
> to have one a day. The diet is almost impossible I have a meeting
> this Tuesday I think I'll go to it. But maybe I just follow weight
> watchers points diet and with curves exercise maybe I can lose
some
> weight or atleast not gain any. Have you seen your Dr.? Do you
know
> if the hormones are helping? I've only been taking mine a week so
I
> know I still have alittle while. Talk to you soon  Myra

Well here it is Monday Hope you had a wonderful Mother's day!
Mine was pretty good. I go to "Curves" in Staunton, Illinois
I say free but last week it ended up costing me $28.00 dollars.
$7.00 for a book and $21.oo for a jar of a protin mix your supposed
to have one a day. The diet is almost impossible I have a meeting
this Tuesday I think I'll go to it. But maybe I just follow weight
watchers points diet and with curves exercise maybe I can lose some
weight or atleast not gain any. Have you seen your Dr.? Do you know
if the hormones are helping? I've only been taking mine a week so I
know I still have alittle while. Talk to you soon  Myra

Barb,

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----- Original Message -----

From: Rodger Chamberlain

To: menopausal@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 1:25 PM

Subject: Re: [menopausal] Hi Myra

Things are pretty good here.  I'm thinking of asking my doctor on Tuesday to do another blood test to see if this stuff is helping to increase my hormones.  I thought I'd feel alot better by now.  How is yours going ?????

Hey your lucky, at my Curves they are advertising a 7 week diet plan but you have to pay $39.00 to join it.  Where abouts are you that you got it included ?????   I have to go today to get my 3 visits in for this week.  So I am to work up a sweat.

Talk to ya soon.

Barb

myralevingston <rjlmjl@...> wrote:

Well how is everything? Here isn't to bad. I went to curves today
it's my second day to work on the machines. i think I'm really going
to like it. They started a 7 week diet plan no extra cost. i'm
supposed to follow a low carb the meeting was Tuesday today is
Thursday and I blew it. Wasn't the Dr. who invented
this "overweight " and die of a "heart attack"? Gives you something
to think about doesn't it! But I'll try again tomorrow. I've tried
alot of different diets but I believe this has to be one of the
hardest to follow. It is really strict. Just thought I'd keep you up
to date be talking to you soon Myra



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----- Original Message -----

From: Rodger Chamberlain

To: menopausal@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 1:25 PM

Subject: Re: [menopausal] Hi Myra

Things are pretty good here.  I'm thinking of asking my doctor on Tuesday to do another blood test to see if this stuff is helping to increase my hormones.  I thought I'd feel alot better by now.  How is yours going ?????

Hey your lucky, at my Curves they are advertising a 7 week diet plan but you have to pay $39.00 to join it.  Where abouts are you that you got it included ?????   I have to go today to get my 3 visits in for this week.  So I am to work up a sweat.

Talk to ya soon.

Barb

myralevingston <rjlmjl@...> wrote:

Well how is everything? Here isn't to bad. I went to curves today
it's my second day to work on the machines. i think I'm really going
to like it. They started a 7 week diet plan no extra cost. i'm
supposed to follow a low carb the meeting was Tuesday today is
Thursday and I blew it. Wasn't the Dr. who invented
this "overweight " and die of a "heart attack"? Gives you something
to think about doesn't it! But I'll try again tomorrow. I've tried
alot of different diets but I believe this has to be one of the
hardest to follow. It is really strict. Just thought I'd keep you up
to date be talking to you soon Myra



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Well how is everything? Here isn't to bad. I went to curves today
it's my second day to work on the machines. i think I'm really going
to like it. They started a 7 week diet plan no extra cost. i'm
supposed to follow a low carb the meeting was Tuesday today is
Thursday and I blew it. Wasn't the Dr. who invented
this "overweight " and die of a "heart attack"? Gives you something
to think about doesn't it! But I'll try again tomorrow. I've tried
alot of different diets but I believe this has to be one of the
hardest to follow. It is really strict. Just thought I'd keep you up
to date be talking to you soon Myra



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You go girl--- sounds like you you are on track to me.
One day at a time-- I just started a "Running Club", yes a real
one....interesting - but we run with our skill level..it is fun and
definitely gives my attitude a huge boost.  Great  Sunny day here...

Take care,  Marleen
----- Original Message -----
From: "myralevingston" <rjlmjl@...>
To: <menopausal@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 5:31 PM
Subject: [menopausal] Hi Barb,


> Well how is everything? Here isn't to bad. I went to curves today
> it's my second day to work on the machines. i think I'm really going
> to like it. They started a 7 week diet plan no extra cost. i'm
> supposed to follow a low carb the meeting was Tuesday today is
> Thursday and I blew it. Wasn't the Dr. who invented
> this "overweight " and die of a "heart attack"? Gives you something
> to think about doesn't it! But I'll try again tomorrow. I've tried
> alot of different diets but I believe this has to be one of the
> hardest to follow. It is really strict. Just thought I'd keep you up
> to date be talking to you soon Myra
>
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>
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Well how is everything? Here isn't to bad. I went to curves today
it's my second day to work on the machines. i think I'm really going
to like it. They started a 7 week diet plan no extra cost. i'm
supposed to follow a low carb the meeting was Tuesday today is
Thursday and I blew it. Wasn't the Dr. who invented
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to think about doesn't it! But I'll try again tomorrow. I've tried
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hardest to follow. It is really strict. Just thought I'd keep you up
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Well actually I didn't start the pills till Sunday The pills were
already set for that. So today is the second day I'm really not sure
how long before I will see any difference. Last week I got over that
extreme fatique had two really good days. When I had the grandkids
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(talk about depressed) ha-ha Talk to you later........Myra




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Well actually I didn't start the pills till Sunday The pills were
already set for that. So today is the second day I'm really not sure
how long before I will see any difference. Last week I got over that
extreme fatique had two really good days. When I had the grandkids
my patience and irribility were pretty bad. And this morning I feel
depressed. Tommorow I go to "curves" for my weight and measurements
(talk about depressed) ha-ha Talk to you later........Myra

Well this is the second day for you.  I'm assuming you started your
pills yesterday.  Good luck with it and let us know how your doing.
I just added a multivitamin and B complex to mix so hopefully these
will help with irritablity etc I've been having.
Good luck with yours
Barb

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Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 5:45 PM

Subject: Re: [menopausal] Digest Number 172

Has ANYOEN found solid info on lack of libido? Lots of suffer from it, but
so far few of us seemtoah ev any suggestions,


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I've been looking on the internet trying to find nutrition choices
to help deal with peri and menopausal relief. I'm not looking for
herbs, pills, or vitamins. ( also I'm  not saying those aren't good
or possibly needed)  what I'm looking for is do I drink milk? or
does such n such make symptoms worse. Can anyone help me?  I know it
has to be on the web but everywhere I go someone wants me to order a
cure all. And all this is new and I don't want to mix and match a
bunch of different things!  HELP  Myra

Hi Myra
Just read your post.  Do I have trouble with my weight -- oh ya !!!!!
I've always had that problem but it has gotten worse in the last
year.  Actually I did join Curves for Women a month ago.  I love
it.  After the first month they will weigh you and measure you
again.  I had mine done last week.  My measurements went up a little
bit but I did loose 4 1/2 body fat so I was happy.  They recommend 3
times a week but I've been going 4 or 5.  I don't push it the extra
days but it also gets me out and with other people.  Added bonus -
exercise.
I did email you privately this morning and told you about my doctors
appointment - did you get it ?????
In case you want my email address it is: rodger_chamberlain@...
use it anytime !!!
Take Care
Barb

Always glad to hear from you. Sounds like the hormones are working
for you. Probaly if we knew exactly when we need them and get
started on them we would be a lot better off. So many times I
thought depression (which I've dealt with for about 25 years ) or it
was pms, stress, bad day.  when the periods started really messing
up and I experienced some hot flashes and no matter what i ate or
did I could'nt lose weight I started searching the internet reading
stuff on perimenopause did I say hey maybe this is it.I know this is
alittle personal but do you have trouble with your weight?  I Feel
like I need to lose atleast 20lbs and I guess that doesn't sound
like alot but  it was always so easy before and now I'm not sure
dynamyte could remove it. I went to a "CURVES" today and am thinking
of joining because I hear that doing the exercice can help with this
so much. And I need the disapline of having to show up. What do you
think?    Myra:)

Sorry to hear about your weekend.  Look at it this way though -- you
are still doing things, like take care of your grandchildren and
work.  I've just started working at home again so your way ahead of
me !!!   Plus you only have 4 more days to wait !!!!
Hang in there !!!!
Barb

Hi everybody Here it is Monday morning and I'm getting ready to go
to work I'm counting down until Sat. when I can start my hormones
this sat. I have two small grandchildren that I take care of on the
week-ends.  sometimes it just is almost more than I can cope with.
Please don't misunderstand I love them with all my heart but with my
energy level, patience, and anxiety level by monday I'm so thankful.
with my job (which is extremely easy ) I can have alittle me time.
                                                     Myra

DOn't know if my post went through or not so will try again.  I have
some questions for my doctor this week.  Like he never explained to
me whether I'll get my periods again or not etc., etc. I'm hoping
not - lol.   Have to go see him anyways so will ask some more
questions.
By the way my birthday is Sept 7th.  It would of been funny if we
ended up the same day !!!
I bouth Suzanne Sommers book today - will probably start reading it
tonight.  If you live in Canada - the Canadian Superstore has it on
sale this week for $21.00.  Three or four people have told me about
this book so thought I'd check it out.
Keep in touch.  We will get thru this !!!!!
Barb

I have read about 90 pages so far, I think susan has been following me around the last year or so. I am 53. Weigh gain, hot flashes, not sleeping good, not much sex drive, my legs itch. She said we, are in the itchty, bitchy, no libo,sweatie, dryout,and a couple other good works for us.  She also talks about men lost of testitorn.

talk to you soon

gloira

Rodger Chamberlain <rodger_chamberlain@...> wrote:

Hi Gloria

I heard about that book a couple of days ago - is suppose to be good and I was suppose to go get it today --- guess I should eh !!!!

Thanks for the reminder

Barb

Gloria Sukut <gsukut@...> wrote:

Barb or Myra

Have either of you read susan summer book Sexy years?  Are you taking natural homorns. gloria

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----- Original Message -----

From: Rodger Chamberlain

To: menopausal@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 10:47 AM

Subject: Re: [menopausal] Trish

Hi Trish

No he didn't really explain that part to me.  Would you like to enlighten me ???  and also make some other suggestions.

Barb

trish@... wrote:

Barb, Did the doctor tell you the long term side effects of the hormones he put you on?

Trish

----- Original Message -----

From: Rodger Chamberlain

To: menopausal@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 11:10 PM

Subject: Re: [menopausal] menapausal

Hi Myra

Well it seems you and I are about in the same boat.  I'm 50 to and just found out last week I'm also peri menapausal.  I'm experiecing about the same as you -- extreme fatigue and no sex drive at all.  Guess we're pretty lucky we both have understanding husbands.!!!!!! 

I've been off work for about a month now but I did have a stomach infection that finally got cleared up.  Still felt like crap so thats why I asked for the blood test to check for menopause.  I guess they symptoms are different for every woman - some seem to fly thru it and others suffer.  I wish I could of been one of the first ones !!!!! 

My doctor has put me on hormones - its been a week now.  I'm feeling abit better today but still have abit to go yet.  Are you taking anything?????

Hopefully we can work thru this together and with others help from this group.

Barb

 

myralevingston <rjlmjl@...> wrote:

Hi. I'm so glad I have found some people to talk to.I will be 50 in
september and my Dr. says I am peri menapausal  I have read several
messages and I can sympathize with many of you but my promblems at
this moment are extreme fatique I have no energy to do anything and
it seems like opening a can of vegetables is to much work. Also in
the few messages i read no one mentioned lack of sexual desire is it
just me? I'm married and I do have a very understanding husband but
atlas he is only human.  hope to hear from someone soon.  myra



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