Re: Sit ups...

You have to be very careful how you do those. I think
it's a great idea to buy one of those 'stomach
cruchers' (Avon sells them now). It's the type that
lays on the floor and you place your head on the head
rest, so it holds your head and neck correctly, so you
don't strain it. It sure makes it easy. When you look
at it and think about it, it just makes sense. I have
a dislocated right wrist that didn't heal correctly,
so I can't use some of the machines that are out now.
I cannot put the pressure on that hand/wrist. But, if
you do not have that problem, look at the Suzanne
Somers web site and her machine is a great thing. Just
look at her and she's 56 years old now! She has great
products and you can also buy her things on Home
Shopping. She's one smart cookie and knows what she's
talking about. She went to medical school to learn
about nutrition, so her Somersize does work! That's
her 'diet' plan...not really dieting, just learning
how to eat correctly...anything that spikes the
insulin (breads, pastas, carbs, sugars), make you gain
weight. Not fats, like they've thought for years. On
her plan, you can EAT! Like she says, she loves to eat
and does NOT want to go hungry...says she's a big of a
piggy when it comes to food....so this is really a
good plan....a new way to eat and it's all healthy as
well. She's also going to write a book about
menopause...she says she's the happiest menopausal
woman you'll ever meet. So, I'm looking forward to
that. She really knows her stuff. And, she's not
paying me to say all of this! lol  She just makes
sense!

Good luck to you all, this is a very difficult time of
life and I thank God for the internet! I have found
out more from talking to other women than from any
doctor...drugs and surgery...that's always their
answers to everything. And, it's so good to hear
you're not alone, not the only one experiencing this
or that.

One more thing...I don't think there is any way to
know when you will get a period these days. You just
have to plan ahead, wear a pad when you go out, just
in case...I do, as I have no pre-symptoms like I did
when I was younger! They just 'appear' now. Then there
are the times when I feel like I have it, but I don't.


Men could NEVER live through all of this, could
they?!!!

Regards,
Linda
"We are not alone"


--- seesze2004 <seesze2004@...> wrote:
> Dear Trish,
>
> Thank you so much for replying to me... And I am so
> sorry it took me
> so long to write...schools just begun a new term
> back here and I've
> been very busy with my son's schooling affairs.
> Somehow life goes on
> even during peri-menopause.
>
> The good news right now is that my period hasn't
> come...one year you
> say? Well I hope it's going to be that for me! I
> really can't wait
> till it just goes away.
>
> Changes 24 hours...I've been taking remifemin and
> evening primrose
> and they seem to help.
>
> Sit ups? No I haven't been doing those...my neck
> gives me too much
> problem to be able to pull those off...
>
> Thanks for the insights. I hope you are doing well`.
> Amy
>
> --- In menopausal@yahoogroups.com, <trish@h...>
> wrote:
> > Hi, Amy,
> >
> > There is no set pattern for your period once in
> perimenopause.
> >
> > The only way you know you are thru it is if you
> have no period at
> all for one year.....then you know you are thru
> it.....but.......I
> know a lady who did not have her period for a year
> then had it for a
> whole month.....then never got it again after that.
> >
> > Have you thought of taking phytoestrogens for your
> hot
> flashes/night sweats and mood swings?
> >
> > Here is what I take ...Changes 24 System......and
> It works......I
> have been taking it for years. I love it.
> >
> > As far as the hard tummy....water retention???
> Odd. Sure your not
> doing sit ups wrong :>)
> >
> > If you hold your breath during a sit up and not
> let the air out of
> your stomach....you will not decrease the size of
> your stomach....you
> will just make it hard......I read that in a dena
> austin work out
> book.
> >
> > I am 48 in surgical menopause and taking Changes
> 24 / Natural HRT
> and doing well :>)
> >
> > Oh I also have 2 pertruding disks in my neck.....I
> use a bag of
> frozen peas to ease the pain/tingling felt when I
> turn it wrong.
> >
> > Welcome to the group.
> >
> > Trish
> > www.herbals-unlimited.com
> >
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: seesze2004
> >   To: menopausal@yahoogroups.com
> >   Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 2:13 AM
> >   Subject: [menopausal] New to the group
> >
> >
> >   A hearty hello to all you ladies,
> >
> >    My name is Amy and it's my first time writing
> to the group. I
> just
> >   turned 50 a few days ago and my symptoms of
> peri-menopause is
> just
> >   getting worse! I mean you name the symptoms I've
> probably got it!
> >   Hot flushes? - have them nightly! It's so bad it
> wakes me up!
> >   Aches and pains? - got those too- took an x-ray
> and found that
> one of
> >   the disc have collapsed and is applying pressure
> on the nerves so
> I
> >   get this tinggling sensation in my arm when I
> hold my head
> back.But
> >   I've got medication for both of these so it's
> not too bad.
> >
> >   Weight gain? Well this is an odd one because I'm
> not gaining
> weight
> >   but I am getting a fat pouch of a tummy! It's
> rock hard too!
> Water
> >   retention they say! sigh...
> >
> >   And then there's the irregular periods! Here's
> where my head
> spins
> >   the most! First it started comming in very short
> cycles like
> flash
> >   flood and spotting that lasts just about
> forever!
> >   Then it stops and gets further and further
> apart! So maybe you
> sweet
> >   ladies can help me out here...
> >   My last cycle was 45 days....and that was in
> October 2003. I was
> due
> >   ( if there is  such a things as period is due
> for menopausal
> women!)
> >   on Nov 1 but it never showed up.
> >   What I am asking is, can anyone of you ladies
> tell me what is the
> >   normal pattern of period cycle for a woman
> headed towards
> menopause?
> >   I know it's suppose to get wider apart the cycle
> but is there a
> >   general idea of how many weeks gradually
> increasing to how many
> more
> >   weeks? I guess I just want to know if I'm
> getting nearer to the
> end
> >   of this madness...
> >
> >   Thanks a bunch!
> >   amy
> >
> >
> >
> >   Please visit my websites when you have a chance.
> Thanks
> http://www.herbals-unlimited.com and
> http://www.bigfoot.com/~TrishK
> >
> >   Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >   To visit your group on the web, go to:
> >    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/menopausal/
> >
> >   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email
> to:
> >    menopausal-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
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>
>
>


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Dear Trish,
 
Thank you so much for replying to me... And I am so sorry it took me
so long to write...schools just begun a new term back here and I've
been very busy with my son's schooling affairs. Somehow life goes on
even during peri-menopause.

The good news right now is that my period hasn't come...one year you
say? Well I hope it's going to be that for me! I really can't wait
till it just goes away.

Changes 24 hours...I've been taking remifemin and evening primrose
and they seem to help.

Sit ups? No I haven't been doing those...my neck gives me too much
problem to be able to pull those off...

Thanks for the insights. I hope you are doing well`.
Amy

--- In menopausal@yahoogroups.com, <trish@h...> wrote:
> Hi, Amy,
>
> There is no set pattern for your period once in perimenopause.
>
> The only way you know you are thru it is if you have no period at
all for one year.....then you know you are thru it.....but.......I
know a lady who did not have her period for a year then had it for a
whole month.....then never got it again after that.
>
> Have you thought of taking phytoestrogens for your hot
flashes/night sweats and mood swings?
>
> Here is what I take ...Changes 24 System......and It works......I
have been taking it for years. I love it.
>
> As far as the hard tummy....water retention??? Odd. Sure your not
doing sit ups wrong :>)
>
> If you hold your breath during a sit up and not let the air out of
your stomach....you will not decrease the size of your stomach....you
will just make it hard......I read that in a dena austin work out
book.
>
> I am 48 in surgical menopause and taking Changes 24 / Natural HRT
and doing well :>)
>
> Oh I also have 2 pertruding disks in my neck.....I use a bag of
frozen peas to ease the pain/tingling felt when I turn it wrong.
>
> Welcome to the group.
>
> Trish
> www.herbals-unlimited.com
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: seesze2004
>   To: menopausal@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 2:13 AM
>   Subject: [menopausal] New to the group
>
>
>   A hearty hello to all you ladies,
>
>    My name is Amy and it's my first time writing to the group. I
just
>   turned 50 a few days ago and my symptoms of peri-menopause is
just
>   getting worse! I mean you name the symptoms I've probably got it!
>   Hot flushes? - have them nightly! It's so bad it wakes me up!
>   Aches and pains? - got those too- took an x-ray and found that
one of
>   the disc have collapsed and is applying pressure on the nerves so
I
>   get this tinggling sensation in my arm when I hold my head
back.But
>   I've got medication for both of these so it's not too bad.
>
>   Weight gain? Well this is an odd one because I'm not gaining
weight
>   but I am getting a fat pouch of a tummy! It's rock hard too!
Water
>   retention they say! sigh...
>
>   And then there's the irregular periods! Here's where my head
spins
>   the most! First it started comming in very short cycles like
flash
>   flood and spotting that lasts just about forever!
>   Then it stops and gets further and further apart! So maybe you
sweet
>   ladies can help me out here...
>   My last cycle was 45 days....and that was in October 2003. I was
due
>   ( if there is  such a things as period is due for menopausal
women!)
>   on Nov 1 but it never showed up.
>   What I am asking is, can anyone of you ladies tell me what is the
>   normal pattern of period cycle for a woman headed towards
menopause?
>   I know it's suppose to get wider apart the cycle but is there a
>   general idea of how many weeks gradually increasing to how many
more
>   weeks? I guess I just want to know if I'm getting nearer to the
end
>   of this madness...
>
>   Thanks a bunch!
>   amy
>
>
>
>   Please visit my websites when you have a chance. Thanks
http://www.herbals-unlimited.com and http://www.bigfoot.com/~TrishK
>
>   Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>   To visit your group on the web, go to:
>    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/menopausal/
>
>   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>    menopausal-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
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Dear Trish,

Thank you so much for replying to me... And I am so sorry it took me
so long to write...schools just begun a new term back here and I've
been very busy with my son's schooling affairs. Somehow life goes on
even during peri-menopause.

The good news right now is that my period hasn't come...one year you
say? Well I hope it's going to be that for me! I really can't wait
till it just goes away.

Changes 24 hours...I've been taking remifemin and evening primrose
and they seem to help.

Sit ups? No I haven't been doing those...my neck gives me too much
problem to be able to pull those off...

Thanks for the insights. I hope you are doing well`.
Amy

--- In menopausal@yahoogroups.com, <trish@h...> wrote:
> Hi, Amy,
>
> There is no set pattern for your period once in perimenopause.
>
> The only way you know you are thru it is if you have no period at
all for one year.....then you know you are thru it.....but.......I
know a lady who did not have her period for a year then had it for a
whole month.....then never got it again after that.
>
> Have you thought of taking phytoestrogens for your hot
flashes/night sweats and mood swings?
>
> Here is what I take ...Changes 24 System......and It works......I
have been taking it for years. I love it.
>
> As far as the hard tummy....water retention??? Odd. Sure your not
doing sit ups wrong :>)
>
> If you hold your breath during a sit up and not let the air out of
your stomach....you will not decrease the size of your stomach....you
will just make it hard......I read that in a dena austin work out
book.
>
> I am 48 in surgical menopause and taking Changes 24 / Natural HRT
and doing well :>)
>
> Oh I also have 2 pertruding disks in my neck.....I use a bag of
frozen peas to ease the pain/tingling felt when I turn it wrong.
>
> Welcome to the group.
>
> Trish
> www.herbals-unlimited.com
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: seesze2004
>   To: menopausal@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 2:13 AM
>   Subject: [menopausal] New to the group
>
>
>   A hearty hello to all you ladies,
>
>    My name is Amy and it's my first time writing to the group. I
just
>   turned 50 a few days ago and my symptoms of peri-menopause is
just
>   getting worse! I mean you name the symptoms I've probably got it!
>   Hot flushes? - have them nightly! It's so bad it wakes me up!
>   Aches and pains? - got those too- took an x-ray and found that
one of
>   the disc have collapsed and is applying pressure on the nerves so
I
>   get this tinggling sensation in my arm when I hold my head
back.But
>   I've got medication for both of these so it's not too bad.
>
>   Weight gain? Well this is an odd one because I'm not gaining
weight
>   but I am getting a fat pouch of a tummy! It's rock hard too!
Water
>   retention they say! sigh...
>
>   And then there's the irregular periods! Here's where my head
spins
>   the most! First it started comming in very short cycles like
flash
>   flood and spotting that lasts just about forever!
>   Then it stops and gets further and further apart! So maybe you
sweet
>   ladies can help me out here...
>   My last cycle was 45 days....and that was in October 2003. I was
due
>   ( if there is  such a things as period is due for menopausal
women!)
>   on Nov 1 but it never showed up.
>   What I am asking is, can anyone of you ladies tell me what is the
>   normal pattern of period cycle for a woman headed towards
menopause?
>   I know it's suppose to get wider apart the cycle but is there a
>   general idea of how many weeks gradually increasing to how many
more
>   weeks? I guess I just want to know if I'm getting nearer to the
end
>   of this madness...
>
>   Thanks a bunch!
>   amy
>
>
>
>   Please visit my websites when you have a chance. Thanks
http://www.herbals-unlimited.com and http://www.bigfoot.com/~TrishK
>
>   Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>   To visit your group on the web, go to:
>    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/menopausal/
>
>   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>    menopausal-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
>    http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

----- Original Message -----

From: janet read

To: menopausal@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 1:39 PM

Subject: Re: [menopausal] re help

hello Trish i have had throid trouble for 7 years now and i take 150mg per day x lancasiregirl66

trish@... wrote:

having a low thyroid will cause memory loss...........are you on meds for it yet?

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----- Original Message -----

From: pam jay

To: menopausal@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 2:28 AM

Subject: Re: [menopausal] re help

I dont know I ve got to go to the gyn to find out how
the ultrasound went.  I forget things more Im in pain
in my back more they found out I have a low thyroid as
of august my bsck hurts all the time I had all of my
teeth pulled in october I guess you'd think I was
falling apart I kinda wish they would take my uterus
out.I have one bad knee too so thatdosent helphelp pam

--- lancashiregirl66 <lancashiregirl66@...>
wrote:
> dear girls thankyou for replying i went to the docs
> this morning and
> have been told that the reasons for my recent
> behaviour is due to the
> fact that 5yrs later my ovaries are on their lasts
> legs and are about
> to pack up.so my hormones are crazy at moment at
> least im not mad !i
> have been given a small dose of (hrt)named premarin
> after a lenghthy
> discussion with my g.p.as i am only 37 i need it. i
> am going to try
> it as i couldnt go on like ive been.i would like to
> hear from anyone
> whos tryed this drug and wonder if its anygood .
>
>
>
>                      thankyou lancashiregirl66 x
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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hi linda hows it going Im a 45 yo lady who since 41
has started to undergo various changes from knee
surgery to three other ttpes.  last year they just
found out I have low thyroid and am taking thyroxin
0.25mg
I've got three dr's one being a chiropractor that I
have fibroymilgia It's been over 3hree months Im mot
sure if this is all hormone related.  I started having
two periods in nov lots of back pain I have had
colonoscopys endoscopys iv's in my arms blood tests
-my rib hurts alot I have a bad back anyway.
I just had an ultrasound done of my uterus and overies
  my uterus is not tipped thank god.- I'm taking
hormones also the first packet of pills I had no
period.I keep having my ears plug up its a real
problem.  can a woman still have problems if Im still
taking thyroid pills its like saying does a diabetic
have symptoms while theyre taking indulin
Is this normal for going through the change.  my mom
had heavy bleeding all her life.  she had her uterus
out at 39.  I managed to still have mine in I dont
know why.  help or call me at ....deleted your phone # for your protection thank
you
pamlinda ruth <iwantabath@...> wrote:
> do a google search on Premarin and do some
> research/reading up on it. glad to hear you did go
> to
> the docs...though you still had your ovaries! here
> are
> two articles to read...
>
> http://www.premarin.org/
>
>
> http://www.premarin.com/
>
>
> and this is the whole google search...
>
>
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=premarin&ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=en&btnG=Google+Searc\
h&meta=
>
>
> goodluck!!! i hope you feel better soon!
>
>
>
> --- lancashiregirl66 <lancashiregirl66@...>
> wrote:
> > dear girls thankyou for replying i went to the
> docs
> > this morning and
> > have been told that the reasons for my recent
> > behaviour is due to the
> > fact that 5yrs later my ovaries are on their lasts
> > legs and are about
> > to pack up.so my hormones are crazy at moment at
> > least im not mad !i
> > have been given a small dose of (hrt)named
> premarin
> > after a lenghthy
> > discussion with my g.p.as i am only 37 i need it.
> i
> > am going to try
> > it as i couldnt go on like ive been.i would like
> to
> > hear from anyone
> > whos tryed this drug and wonder if its anygood .
> >
> >
> >
> >                      thankyou lancashiregirl66 x
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Id like to share my views on menopause, health and falling into the trap of gynecological scare tactics. I have been health oriented since living in CA in the early 70's and have experienced the full sence of well being that eating wholistically, healthily, macrobiotically, colon cleansed; famous nutritionist diet, etc.........   and through it all, I have learned to trust my body, and the natural way of it.   If you take care of it, it will be good to you.   That said.  I am 53 this March, have gone through menopause I suppose (have lost my period now going on about 2 years)   after about l4 months of no period, restlessness, etc, I went to a woman gynecologist my friend recommended to me.  As I usually do, I researched about bleeding after not bleeding and saw what was considered the procedures to follow, and also read by some more naturalminded doctors that sometimes theres a blast of bleeding, before the final curtain falls on menses. I met with this (more aggressive and offensive female doctor), who wanted me to have one less procedure than all the articles I read mentioned, and also when I asked why, she used some threatening message , that included or you could die in it.     I never went back to her...........and followed the ways I always have, the natural way............I also, didnt have a fibroid removed that was also with scare tactics told I should remove it, but when I read that most fibroids disssolve during menopause and I was in late 40s, i went with it.  It is gone .     This is only to say, that this all worked for me, and works for many .   I just hope some of you would consider trusting your own judgments over the scare tactics and the over confidence you may be giving these doctors that use surgery as the method of erradicating problems that might naturally resolve on their own.

----- Original Message -----

From: pam jay

To: menopausal@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 2:28 AM

Subject: Re: [menopausal] re help

I dont know I ve got to go to the gyn to find out how
the ultrasound went.  I forget things more Im in pain
in my back more they found out I have a low thyroid as
of august my bsck hurts all the time I had all of my
teeth pulled in october I guess you'd think I was
falling apart I kinda wish they would take my uterus
out.I have one bad knee too so thatdosent helphelp pam

--- lancashiregirl66 <lancashiregirl66@...>
wrote:
> dear girls thankyou for replying i went to the docs
> this morning and
> have been told that the reasons for my recent
> behaviour is due to the
> fact that 5yrs later my ovaries are on their lasts
> legs and are about
> to pack up.so my hormones are crazy at moment at
> least im not mad !i
> have been given a small dose of (hrt)named premarin
> after a lenghthy
> discussion with my g.p.as i am only 37 i need it. i
> am going to try
> it as i couldnt go on like ive been.i would like to
> hear from anyone
> whos tryed this drug and wonder if its anygood .
>
>
>
>                      thankyou lancashiregirl66 x
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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I dont know I ve got to go to the gyn to find out how
the ultrasound went.  I forget things more Im in pain
in my back more they found out I have a low thyroid as
of august my bsck hurts all the time I had all of my
teeth pulled in october I guess you'd think I was
falling apart I kinda wish they would take my uterus
out.I have one bad knee too so thatdosent helphelp pam

--- lancashiregirl66 <lancashiregirl66@...>
wrote:
> dear girls thankyou for replying i went to the docs
> this morning and
> have been told that the reasons for my recent
> behaviour is due to the
> fact that 5yrs later my ovaries are on their lasts
> legs and are about
> to pack up.so my hormones are crazy at moment at
> least im not mad !i
> have been given a small dose of (hrt)named premarin
> after a lenghthy
> discussion with my g.p.as i am only 37 i need it. i
> am going to try
> it as i couldnt go on like ive been.i would like to
> hear from anyone
> whos tryed this drug and wonder if its anygood .
>
>
>
>                      thankyou lancashiregirl66 x
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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do a google search on Premarin and do some
research/reading up on it. glad to hear you did go to
the docs...though you still had your ovaries! here are
two articles to read...

http://www.premarin.org/


http://www.premarin.com/


and this is the whole google search...

http://www.google.com.au/search?q=premarin&ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=en&btnG=Google+Searc\
h&meta=


goodluck!!! i hope you feel better soon!



--- lancashiregirl66 <lancashiregirl66@...>
wrote:
> dear girls thankyou for replying i went to the docs
> this morning and
> have been told that the reasons for my recent
> behaviour is due to the
> fact that 5yrs later my ovaries are on their lasts
> legs and are about
> to pack up.so my hormones are crazy at moment at
> least im not mad !i
> have been given a small dose of (hrt)named premarin
> after a lenghthy
> discussion with my g.p.as i am only 37 i need it. i
> am going to try
> it as i couldnt go on like ive been.i would like to
> hear from anyone
> whos tryed this drug and wonder if its anygood .
>
>
>
>                      thankyou lancashiregirl66 x
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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----- Original Message -----

From: lancashiregirl66

To: menopausal@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 12:19 PM

Subject: [menopausal] re help

dear girls thankyou for replying i went to the docs this morning and
have been told that the reasons for my recent behaviour is due to the
fact that 5yrs later my ovaries are on their lasts legs and are about
to pack up.so my hormones are crazy at moment at least im not mad !i
have been given a small dose of (hrt)named premarin after a lenghthy
discussion with my g.p.as i am only 37 i need it. i am going to try
it as i couldnt go on like ive been.i would like to hear from anyone
whos tryed this drug and wonder if its anygood .



                     thankyou lancashiregirl66 x








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dear girls thankyou for replying i went to the docs this morning and
have been told that the reasons for my recent behaviour is due to the
fact that 5yrs later my ovaries are on their lasts legs and are about
to pack up.so my hormones are crazy at moment at least im not mad !i
have been given a small dose of (hrt)named premarin after a lenghthy
discussion with my g.p.as i am only 37 i need it. i am going to try
it as i couldnt go on like ive been.i would like to hear from anyone
whos tryed this drug and wonder if its anygood .



                      thankyou lancashiregirl66 x

----- Original Message -----

From: linda ruth

To: menopausal@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 12:57 AM

Subject: Re: [menopausal] help

Hello,

It might pay you to go to your doctor, since you seem
to have so many problems...the most disturbing being
the violent behavior. With two children, this is not
good. I am sure that a chat room is not enough for
you. You need to seek medical help for this before you
do something irreversible. And, you should know
whether or not you still have your ovaries. You should
find out, one way or the other.

There is one thing I can tell you about and that is an
item sold through Drugstore.com. It's called a Chillow
and slides into your pillowcase. It does help keep you
cooler. A good fan might help you there as well.

But, it sounds to me as though your hormones are doing
a real 'job' on you. So you really need to get this
seen to. I would also look into diet/nutrition. Look
online and that might be helpful as well.

I'm 54 and going through my own 'hell'. No PMS or
anything like that. Not even any 'pre signs' that a
period might be coming on, so I have to wear at least
a pad whenever I go out! I've had several 'marathon'
periods..like 6 weeks long and extremely heavy
bleeding...scary! But, from what I've learned, quite
common. So, the only comfort I can give you is at
least you're not getting periods anymore. I am SO
READY FOR THEM TO BE GONE FOREVER!!!

I wish you the best and hope that you find an answer
soon. But the doctor is the way for you to go, in my
opinion.

Regards,
Linda



--- lancashiregirl66 <lancashiregirl66@...>
wrote:
> hello.my name is jan i am 37 and mum of 2 sons aged
> 15 and 12 as
> though thats not enough!i had a hysterectomy 6 yrs
> ago and have
> ovaries (i think !)lately well actually for the
> past3 months have
> been feeling not myself  i also rely on 150mg of
> thyroxine daily but
> my levels are ok as i have regular blood tests.my
> sleep pattern has
> changed and regularly wake up during the night
> usually wet through,
> getting moments where i feel so hot and feeling very
> teary and fed up
> and usually leads to me doing crazy things  and
> becoming megga
> irretable and very manic.i have never been a violent
> or aggresive
> person but have been recently which does scare me.i
> no longer know
> when my body should be having a period as before
> this all started i
> still got sore boobs  had an immense appetite and
> became vert thirsty
> at a particular part of the month none of these
> symptoms have i had
> for 4 months please can  someone give me any help
> and advice because
> quite frankly i feel like im going round the
> twist!!!and so does my
> partner and my sons and probably my 2 dogs! help !!
>
>
>


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----- Original Message -----

From: lancashiregirl66

To: menopausal@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 4:50 PM

Subject: [menopausal] help

hello.my name is jan i am 37 and mum of 2 sons aged 15 and 12 as
though thats not enough!i had a hysterectomy 6 yrs ago and have
ovaries (i think !)lately well actually for the past3 months have
been feeling not myself  i also rely on 150mg of thyroxine daily but
my levels are ok as i have regular blood tests.my sleep pattern has
changed and regularly wake up during the night usually wet through,
getting moments where i feel so hot and feeling very teary and fed up
and usually leads to me doing crazy things  and becoming megga
irretable and very manic.i have never been a violent or aggresive
person but have been recently which does scare me.i no longer know
when my body should be having a period as before this all started i
still got sore boobs  had an immense appetite and became vert thirsty
at a particular part of the month none of these symptoms have i had
for 4 months please can  someone give me any help and advice because
quite frankly i feel like im going round the twist!!!and so does my
partner and my sons and probably my 2 dogs! help !!



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hello.my name is jan i am 37 and mum of 2 sons aged 15 and 12 as
though thats not enough!i had a hysterectomy 6 yrs ago and have
ovaries (i think !)lately well actually for the past3 months have
been feeling not myself  i also rely on 150mg of thyroxine daily but
my levels are ok as i have regular blood tests.my sleep pattern has
changed and regularly wake up during the night usually wet through,
getting moments where i feel so hot and feeling very teary and fed up
and usually leads to me doing crazy things  and becoming megga
irretable and very manic.i have never been a violent or aggresive
person but have been recently which does scare me.i no longer know
when my body should be having a period as before this all started i
still got sore boobs  had an immense appetite and became vert thirsty
at a particular part of the month none of these symptoms have i had
for 4 months please can  someone give me any help and advice because
quite frankly i feel like im going round the twist!!!and so does my
partner and my sons and probably my 2 dogs! help !!




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Hello,

It might pay you to go to your doctor, since you seem
to have so many problems...the most disturbing being
the violent behavior. With two children, this is not
good. I am sure that a chat room is not enough for
you. You need to seek medical help for this before you
do something irreversible. And, you should know
whether or not you still have your ovaries. You should
find out, one way or the other.

There is one thing I can tell you about and that is an
item sold through Drugstore.com. It's called a Chillow
and slides into your pillowcase. It does help keep you
cooler. A good fan might help you there as well.

But, it sounds to me as though your hormones are doing
a real 'job' on you. So you really need to get this
seen to. I would also look into diet/nutrition. Look
online and that might be helpful as well.

I'm 54 and going through my own 'hell'. No PMS or
anything like that. Not even any 'pre signs' that a
period might be coming on, so I have to wear at least
a pad whenever I go out! I've had several 'marathon'
periods..like 6 weeks long and extremely heavy
bleeding...scary! But, from what I've learned, quite
common. So, the only comfort I can give you is at
least you're not getting periods anymore. I am SO
READY FOR THEM TO BE GONE FOREVER!!!

I wish you the best and hope that you find an answer
soon. But the doctor is the way for you to go, in my
opinion.

Regards,
Linda



--- lancashiregirl66 <lancashiregirl66@...>
wrote:
> hello.my name is jan i am 37 and mum of 2 sons aged
> 15 and 12 as
> though thats not enough!i had a hysterectomy 6 yrs
> ago and have
> ovaries (i think !)lately well actually for the
> past3 months have
> been feeling not myself  i also rely on 150mg of
> thyroxine daily but
> my levels are ok as i have regular blood tests.my
> sleep pattern has
> changed and regularly wake up during the night
> usually wet through,
> getting moments where i feel so hot and feeling very
> teary and fed up
> and usually leads to me doing crazy things  and
> becoming megga
> irretable and very manic.i have never been a violent
> or aggresive
> person but have been recently which does scare me.i
> no longer know
> when my body should be having a period as before
> this all started i
> still got sore boobs  had an immense appetite and
> became vert thirsty
> at a particular part of the month none of these
> symptoms have i had
> for 4 months please can  someone give me any help
> and advice because
> quite frankly i feel like im going round the
> twist!!!and so does my
> partner and my sons and probably my 2 dogs! help !!
>
>
>


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hello.my name is jan i am 37 and mum of 2 sons aged 15 and 12 as
though thats not enough!i had a hysterectomy 6 yrs ago and have
ovaries (i think !)lately well actually for the past3 months have
been feeling not myself  i also rely on 150mg of thyroxine daily but
my levels are ok as i have regular blood tests.my sleep pattern has
changed and regularly wake up during the night usually wet through,
getting moments where i feel so hot and feeling very teary and fed up
and usually leads to me doing crazy things  and becoming megga
irretable and very manic.i have never been a violent or aggresive
person but have been recently which does scare me.i no longer know
when my body should be having a period as before this all started i
still got sore boobs  had an immense appetite and became vert thirsty
at a particular part of the month none of these symptoms have i had
for 4 months please can  someone give me any help and advice because
quite frankly i feel like im going round the twist!!!and so does my
partner and my sons and probably my 2 dogs! help !!

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----- Original Message -----

From: seesze2004

To: menopausal@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 2:13 AM

Subject: [menopausal] New to the group

A hearty hello to all you ladies,

 My name is Amy and it's my first time writing to the group. I just
turned 50 a few days ago and my symptoms of peri-menopause is just
getting worse! I mean you name the symptoms I've probably got it!
Hot flushes? - have them nightly! It's so bad it wakes me up!
Aches and pains? - got those too- took an x-ray and found that one of
the disc have collapsed and is applying pressure on the nerves so I
get this tinggling sensation in my arm when I hold my head back.But
I've got medication for both of these so it's not too bad.

Weight gain? Well this is an odd one because I'm not gaining weight
but I am getting a fat pouch of a tummy! It's rock hard too! Water
retention they say! sigh...

And then there's the irregular periods! Here's where my head spins
the most! First it started comming in very short cycles like flash
flood and spotting that lasts just about forever!
Then it stops and gets further and further apart! So maybe you sweet
ladies can help me out here...
My last cycle was 45 days....and that was in October 2003. I was due
( if there is  such a things as period is due for menopausal women!)
on Nov 1 but it never showed up.
What I am asking is, can anyone of you ladies tell me what is the
normal pattern of period cycle for a woman headed towards menopause?
I know it's suppose to get wider apart the cycle but is there a
general idea of how many weeks gradually increasing to how many more
weeks? I guess I just want to know if I'm getting nearer to the end
of this madness...

Thanks a bunch!
amy



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Hi Amy and welcome!

    You and I are around the same age. It's good to know I wasn't the
only one going through more than simply hot flashes and/or mood
swings. Actually, I must be one of the 15% of women who tend to have
a rougher time than most with many physical symptoms. My periods
stopped almost three years ago. Before that I knew things were
changing when periods began to get around six weeks apart. That
happened for two cycles. Then I had six regular cycles followed by
six months of no periods. (Whenever I had no periods the hot flashes
came on). Then I had two periods of very heavy bleeding which I found
kind of frightening. And some breakthrough bleeding for a few months
after that. Then a couple months of regular but much lighter periods.
Then that was it. Though I have suffered through hot flashes even now
three years later. For the first two years of menopause I had
backaches (sometimes with diarrhea), headaches, that lousey feeling
very much like the awful PMS I got for two weeks every cycle for
years. This past third year no more backaches, heaches reduced, but I
still get hot flashes (sometimes several a day) and fatigue and still
a sluggish, off feeling. I've tried some stuff like Progesterone
Cream and Remifem but none worked and made me feel worse. I hope you
have an easier time. I have to say I have never experienced mood
swings.




--- In menopausal@yahoogroups.com, "seesze2004" <seesze2004@y...>
wrote:
> A hearty hello to all you ladies,
>
>  My name is Amy and it's my first time writing to the group. I just
> turned 50 a few days ago and my symptoms of peri-menopause is just
> getting worse! I mean you name the symptoms I've probably got it!
> Hot flushes? - have them nightly! It's so bad it wakes me up!
> Aches and pains? - got those too- took an x-ray and found that one
of
> the disc have collapsed and is applying pressure on the nerves so I
> get this tinggling sensation in my arm when I hold my head back.But
> I've got medication for both of these so it's not too bad.
>
> Weight gain? Well this is an odd one because I'm not gaining weight
> but I am getting a fat pouch of a tummy! It's rock hard too! Water
> retention they say! sigh...
>
> And then there's the irregular periods! Here's where my head spins
> the most! First it started comming in very short cycles like flash
> flood and spotting that lasts just about forever!
> Then it stops and gets further and further apart! So maybe you
sweet
> ladies can help me out here...
> My last cycle was 45 days....and that was in October 2003. I was
due
> ( if there is  such a things as period is due for menopausal women!)
> on Nov 1 but it never showed up.
> What I am asking is, can anyone of you ladies tell me what is the
> normal pattern of period cycle for a woman headed towards
menopause?
> I know it's suppose to get wider apart the cycle but is there a
> general idea of how many weeks gradually increasing to how many
more
> weeks? I guess I just want to know if I'm getting nearer to the end
> of this madness...
>
> Thanks a bunch!
> amy

A hearty hello to all you ladies,

  My name is Amy and it's my first time writing to the group. I just
turned 50 a few days ago and my symptoms of peri-menopause is just
getting worse! I mean you name the symptoms I've probably got it!
Hot flushes? - have them nightly! It's so bad it wakes me up!
Aches and pains? - got those too- took an x-ray and found that one of
the disc have collapsed and is applying pressure on the nerves so I
get this tinggling sensation in my arm when I hold my head back.But
I've got medication for both of these so it's not too bad.

Weight gain? Well this is an odd one because I'm not gaining weight
but I am getting a fat pouch of a tummy! It's rock hard too! Water
retention they say! sigh...

And then there's the irregular periods! Here's where my head spins
the most! First it started comming in very short cycles like flash
flood and spotting that lasts just about forever!
Then it stops and gets further and further apart! So maybe you sweet
ladies can help me out here...
My last cycle was 45 days....and that was in October 2003. I was due
( if there is  such a things as period is due for menopausal women!)
on Nov 1 but it never showed up.
What I am asking is, can anyone of you ladies tell me what is the
normal pattern of period cycle for a woman headed towards menopause?
I know it's suppose to get wider apart the cycle but is there a
general idea of how many weeks gradually increasing to how many more
weeks? I guess I just want to know if I'm getting nearer to the end
of this madness...

Thanks a bunch!
amy

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----- Original Message -----

From: Margaret Golden

To: menopausal@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 8:15 PM

Subject: Re: [menopausal] crying spells and morbid thoughts

Hi, there-Just want you to know that I have been hit
with many, many crying spells as I've begun to grow
through periomenopause. The change of life coming to
me hit me like a ton of bricks. It was a crisis, in
fact, that my ex-husband decided he couldn't see me
through. He bailed out of marriage when I was in the
middle of it, trying my best to help myself deal with
everything that was going on: grief over the only
child I ever gave birth to, a son whom I lost earlier
in life, grief over not being a mother. Then, when he
left, I had to grieve him. He left me in a precarious
financial situation, which has led to a lot of grief.
Then, a subsequent significant other bailed out
because I didn't have enough money to suit him.

As I write this, I say to myself, "My gosh, lady, you
made it through all this, and you're still standing?!"
..by the grace of God is the only way it happened.

I've relocated now myself, have full-time work (though
it doesn't pay what I'd like,) am in school to learn a
new profession, and have now met someone in whom I'm
extremely interested who has a 6-year old daughter. I
can envision that this relationship will blossom into
something very special for all of us.

I went on anti-depressants for awhile, Lexapro, to be
exact, which have done wonders. I was on another one
during the worst part of all this, but I don't need it
anymore. See if your doctor will prescribe this for
you. It will help a great deal.

You are not alone in this, friend. Write whenever
you'd like. I, for one, will be glad to communicate
with you about what we're going through.
Sincerely,
Margaret
--- lsgns1955 <lsgns1955@...> wrote:
> Hello everyone,  this is my first time to post.  I'm
> new to the
> group. It's hard trying to find others to talk to
> because I don't
> like sounding like a broken record and I hate to
> complain to family
> and friends.  Seems like the biggest problems I'm
> having is crying
> almost all the time and having morbid thoughts.  I'm
> not one that is
> afraid of dying, but lately I'm terrified I won't
> have all
> the "things" done that I want to do finished before
> I die.  Also, the
> thought of dying and leaving my family is driving me
> crazy.  Does
> anyone else have thoughts of dying?  I know what
> alot of you are
> thinking.... doesn't she believe in God, etc.  Yes,
> I surely do.  I
> know that I'll be going to heaven and be with other
> family members. 
> It's hard to explain just what it is that scares me
> so badly.  As
> much as I don't wish these horrid thoughts on anyone
> else...I do hope
> I'm not the only one.  Hope you can help.
>
>
>


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Hi, there-Just want you to know that I have been hit
with many, many crying spells as I've begun to grow
through periomenopause. The change of life coming to
me hit me like a ton of bricks. It was a crisis, in
fact, that my ex-husband decided he couldn't see me
through. He bailed out of marriage when I was in the
middle of it, trying my best to help myself deal with
everything that was going on: grief over the only
child I ever gave birth to, a son whom I lost earlier
in life, grief over not being a mother. Then, when he
left, I had to grieve him. He left me in a precarious
financial situation, which has led to a lot of grief.
Then, a subsequent significant other bailed out
because I didn't have enough money to suit him.

As I write this, I say to myself, "My gosh, lady, you
made it through all this, and you're still standing?!"
..by the grace of God is the only way it happened.

I've relocated now myself, have full-time work (though
it doesn't pay what I'd like,) am in school to learn a
new profession, and have now met someone in whom I'm
extremely interested who has a 6-year old daughter. I
can envision that this relationship will blossom into
something very special for all of us.

I went on anti-depressants for awhile, Lexapro, to be
exact, which have done wonders. I was on another one
during the worst part of all this, but I don't need it
anymore. See if your doctor will prescribe this for
you. It will help a great deal.

You are not alone in this, friend. Write whenever
you'd like. I, for one, will be glad to communicate
with you about what we're going through.
Sincerely,
Margaret
--- lsgns1955 <lsgns1955@...> wrote:
> Hello everyone,  this is my first time to post.  I'm
> new to the
> group. It's hard trying to find others to talk to
> because I don't
> like sounding like a broken record and I hate to
> complain to family
> and friends.  Seems like the biggest problems I'm
> having is crying
> almost all the time and having morbid thoughts.  I'm
> not one that is
> afraid of dying, but lately I'm terrified I won't
> have all
> the "things" done that I want to do finished before
> I die.  Also, the
> thought of dying and leaving my family is driving me
> crazy.  Does
> anyone else have thoughts of dying?  I know what
> alot of you are
> thinking.... doesn't she believe in God, etc.  Yes,
> I surely do.  I
> know that I'll be going to heaven and be with other
> family members.
> It's hard to explain just what it is that scares me
> so badly.  As
> much as I don't wish these horrid thoughts on anyone
> else...I do hope
> I'm not the only one.  Hope you can help.
>
>
>


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----- Original Message -----

From: lsgns1955

To: menopausal@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 11:34 PM

Subject: [menopausal] crying spells and morbid thoughts

Hello everyone,  this is my first time to post.  I'm new to the
group. It's hard trying to find others to talk to because I don't
like sounding like a broken record and I hate to complain to family
and friends.  Seems like the biggest problems I'm having is crying
almost all the time and having morbid thoughts.  I'm not one that is
afraid of dying, but lately I'm terrified I won't have all
the "things" done that I want to do finished before I die.  Also, the
thought of dying and leaving my family is driving me crazy.  Does
anyone else have thoughts of dying?  I know what alot of you are
thinking.... doesn't she believe in God, etc.  Yes, I surely do.  I
know that I'll be going to heaven and be with other family members. 
It's hard to explain just what it is that scares me so badly.  As
much as I don't wish these horrid thoughts on anyone else...I do hope
I'm not the only one.  Hope you can help.



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Hello everyone,  this is my first time to post.  I'm new to the
group. It's hard trying to find others to talk to because I don't
like sounding like a broken record and I hate to complain to family
and friends.  Seems like the biggest problems I'm having is crying
almost all the time and having morbid thoughts.  I'm not one that is
afraid of dying, but lately I'm terrified I won't have all
the "things" done that I want to do finished before I die.  Also, the
thought of dying and leaving my family is driving me crazy.  Does
anyone else have thoughts of dying?  I know what alot of you are
thinking.... doesn't she believe in God, etc.  Yes, I surely do.  I
know that I'll be going to heaven and be with other family members.
It's hard to explain just what it is that scares me so badly.  As
much as I don't wish these horrid thoughts on anyone else...I do hope
I'm not the only one.  Hope you can help.

----- Original Message -----

From: morningsongs3

To: menopausal@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 11:11 PM

Subject: [menopausal] menopause and holding

i am new to the group. I had a hysterectomy complete march of this
year. I started using the patch but started swelling in my leg. Now I
am on nothing. I feel tired all the time and I have headaches. My
doctor did my surgery for correcting my incontience.  It worked for 1
month and now i am back to leaking again. But no pain. I had
endometriosos. 




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