--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "M.V.T.
DHANANJEYAN" <dhanmvt1@...> wrote:
>
> --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "J" <thebluze@>
> wrote:
> >
> > the past couple months, I have been practicing simple meditation,
> > twice daily , sometimes more often. I have had some deep, if not
> > unsettling experiences. some have been crystal clear and truly
> > beauteous, others  deeply physical and alarmingly immediate.
> >
> > I breathe, diphramaticaly only, as quietly, rhythmically, and
deeply
> > as the now allows. I lay down, palms up, in traditional yogic
manner
> > and meditate, in and out, using a two word mantra{s}.
> >
> > Last night, deeply relaxed, I experienced unusual physical
> sensations,
> > through out my "throat" - blue chakra. I felt a gentle sensation,
> that
> > at first felt like petals opening than tiny spheres from the top
of
> my
> > adam's apple down through my upper chest, vibrating in an
> unsettling,
> > yet gentle way and upon coming out of meditation, the area of the
> > chakra felt at ease, in some way cleansed.  These sensations only
> > occurred at the end of the breathing out of each breath, when all
> the
> > air is gone and I wait for the natural reflex breath in. I
continued
> > to feel this until the in breath filled my lungs.  Is this
normal ?
> Is
> > it good ?
> >
> > Years ago, while meditating, I had a similar feeling, only it was
my
> > heart muscle, like a 1000 little bubbles gurgling, little parts,
> each
> > releasing something. It was a really pleasurable experience and
I've
> > duplicated it a few times, in meditation since.
> >
> > Has anyone known similar physical events like this ? Can someone
> explain ?
> >
> > namaste,
> > J
> >My dear
>       you are in line. keep it up. some time uncontrolable energy
> burst will be their. Don't get frighten (affaraid). Dont move when
> you are doing. dont stiffen your body. suddenly dont take away from
> your action. do slowly. come out from any condition slowly.
>
> next stage will tell you. This may be your first stage. Many stages
> are their.
>
> Do it.
> Meditation related experience is not advised one to share with
public.
> Mostly it should be shared with your teacher or who has experience
in
> this.
>
> fate decide all.
>
Actually, this group is designed to be a place where you CAN share
your meditation experiences. There are many here who have "experience
in this", whatever your experience may be. Although in a way we all
have unique experiences, we all know what eating feels like and can
share comments about different food. Similarly, meditation can be
thought of as a sacred food, and the chefs, dieticians, and doctors
here are very knowledgable, and serve well as excellent teachers.
Peace and blessings,
Bob

--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "J" <thebluze@...>
wrote:
>
> the past couple months, I have been practicing simple meditation,
> twice daily , sometimes more often. I have had some deep, if not
> unsettling experiences. some have been crystal clear and truly
> beauteous, others  deeply physical and alarmingly immediate.
>
> I breathe, diphramaticaly only, as quietly, rhythmically, and deeply
> as the now allows. I lay down, palms up, in traditional yogic manner
> and meditate, in and out, using a two word mantra{s}.
>
> Last night, deeply relaxed, I experienced unusual physical
sensations,
> through out my "throat" - blue chakra. I felt a gentle sensation,
that
> at first felt like petals opening than tiny spheres from the top of
my
> adam's apple down through my upper chest, vibrating in an
unsettling,
> yet gentle way and upon coming out of meditation, the area of the
> chakra felt at ease, in some way cleansed.  These sensations only
> occurred at the end of the breathing out of each breath, when all
the
> air is gone and I wait for the natural reflex breath in. I continued
> to feel this until the in breath filled my lungs.  Is this normal ?
Is
> it good ?
>
> Years ago, while meditating, I had a similar feeling, only it was my
> heart muscle, like a 1000 little bubbles gurgling, little parts,
each
> releasing something. It was a really pleasurable experience and I've
> duplicated it a few times, in meditation since.
>
> Has anyone known similar physical events like this ? Can someone
explain ?
>
> namaste,
> J
>My dear
       you are in line. keep it up. some time uncontrolable energy
burst will be their. Don't get frighten (affaraid). Dont move when
you are doing. dont stiffen your body. suddenly dont take away from
your action. do slowly. come out from any condition slowly.

next stage will tell you. This may be your first stage. Many stages
are their.

Do it.
Meditation related experience is not advised one to share with public.
Mostly it should be shared with your teacher or who has experience in
this.

fate decide all.

the past couple months, I have been practicing simple meditation,
twice daily , sometimes more often. I have had some deep, if not
unsettling experiences. some have been crystal clear and truly
beauteous, others  deeply physical and alarmingly immediate.

I breathe, diphramaticaly only, as quietly, rhythmically, and deeply
as the now allows. I lay down, palms up, in traditional yogic manner
and meditate, in and out, using a two word mantra{s}.

Last night, deeply relaxed, I experienced unusual physical sensations,
through out my "throat" - blue chakra. I felt a gentle sensation, that
at first felt like petals opening than tiny spheres from the top of my
adam's apple down through my upper chest, vibrating in an unsettling,
yet gentle way and upon coming out of meditation, the area of the
chakra felt at ease, in some way cleansed.  These sensations only
occurred at the end of the breathing out of each breath, when all the
air is gone and I wait for the natural reflex breath in. I continued
to feel this until the in breath filled my lungs.  Is this normal ? Is
it good ?

Years ago, while meditating, I had a similar feeling, only it was my
heart muscle, like a 1000 little bubbles gurgling, little parts, each
releasing something. It was a really pleasurable experience and I've
duplicated it a few times, in meditation since.

Has anyone known similar physical events like this ? Can someone explain ?

namaste,
J

Thank you. I transgressed the very objective of Meditation Society
of America by asking about results and experiences while its
objective is-"Meditation Society of America - Devoted to sharing
meditation techniques, concepts" only. So I regret.
good bye.
regards



--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, dhananjeyan
manikka <dhanmvt1@...> wrote:
>
> dear jogesh
>
>           you are the only person keep on asking what is the
result for all questions . i.e. the result of the movement of
meditation in all. nobody given or even experienced they don't tell.
>   i will tell you stop aking and start doing what i told .
>   1. sit
>   2. leave your mind any thing to think
>   3. take deep breath
>   4. start telling sing vang vang sing ..... repeatedly .
>   5. when you are doing assume or concentrate on your forehead
centre between eyebrows.
>   6. dont get vexed breath interval and chanting should match do
it keep on do.
>   7. you will receive the answer for all.
>
>
>   Take note of every thing happening in you and around you.
>   result time -- vary depend upon your body.
>
>   nothing to say more "answer"
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Never miss a thing.   Make Yahoo your homepage.
>

The experience leading
to the presence of God
can be put in words, but
the direct experience
is beyond words.

There comes an intutive
stirring, a longing, a
sense of something missing,
and for those who feel
this urgently, the journey
begins.

Most typically, a guide
is needed - one who has
the experiential knowledge.

Often, the teaching is
to begin meditation...

from there, the experiences
vary, but share some commonality.

What is encountered is
a sense of impending doom,
of what feels like death.

This is the ego's attempt
to remain in charge. And
this is the point where
many turn back.

For those who risk death,
and totality surrender to
the moment...

A light comes.

--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
<jogeshwarmahanta@...> wrote:
>
> Words can be plenty around soham. But what is the experience so far?
> regards
>
>
>
> --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Belyea"
> <jeff@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In
> meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
> > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
> > >
> > > That is something of distant future. But can any body here can
> feel
> > > NOW that I am God or I am Brahman?
> > >
> > > Who feels so?
> > > regards
> > >
> >
> > My answer to this is
> > embedded in the previous
> > response, but here another
> > 2 cents worth:
> >
> > This "distant future" is
> > the knot of unrealized
> > religious dogma. It keeps
> > the faithful on a pilgrimage
> > throughout life.
> >
> > Yet all realized masters teach
> > that it is our birthright
> > to know God NOW as a waking
> > Christ Consciousness or
> > Krishna Consciousness (or
> > Samadhi or whatever word
> > works).
> >
> > To proclaim a knowing of
> > God in the NOW is met with
> > suspicion and hostility by
> > the "superstitious" who have
> > subscribed to a blind
> > creed and a pledge to
> > uphold doctrine into which
> > they have no insight.
> >
> > Most admired among the
> > fundamentalists is the
> > pious bent over pilgrim,
> > waiting for that sweet
> > chariot to take them
> > home...some day.
> >
>

--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
<jogeshwarmahanta@...> wrote:
>
> That is something of distant future. But can any body here can feel
> NOW that I am God or I am Brahman?
>
> Who feels so?
> regards
>

My answer to this is
embedded in the previous
response, but here another
2 cents worth:

This "distant future" is
the knot of unrealized
religious dogma. It keeps
the faithful on a pilgrimage
throughout life.

Yet all realized masters teach
that it is our birthright
to know God NOW as a waking
Christ Consciousness or
Krishna Consciousness (or
Samadhi or whatever word
works).

To proclaim a knowing of
God in the NOW is met with
suspicion and hostility by
the "superstitious" who have
subscribed to a blind
creed and a pledge to
uphold doctrine into which
they have no insight.

Most admired among the
fundamentalists is the
pious bent over pilgrim,
waiting for that sweet
chariot to take them
home...some day.

Responding to the section
about "In the beginning
was the word...". The
translation of "word" came
from "logos" or logo -
which is an identity or
symbol - as in a logo design,
such as the Nike swoop.

So, it might have read:

"In the beginning was the
identity, the reality,
the absolute nondual 'God'" -
referred to by use of a
logo, a necessary device
for the dualistic use of
communication required
to make reference to the
"I Am That I Am,".

The Mahamantra accesses
this without "words", and
so the explanation offered
that "Soham" is the beginning
"word" is also plausible.

--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
<jogeshwarmahanta@...> wrote:
>
> > When one becomes God, he would not be there at all to proclaim
> anything about him. The feeling 'HE' would vanish once and for all !
> >

When one awakens to the
indwelling God (and
vice versa), and the
sure knowledge that All
is God, and therefore,
even while in this human
form, we are a flame, a
spark of God's fire...

The feeling of "HE" does
not vanish, although that
is the fear of the ego,
and the misinterpreted
report of many teachers.

This fear and protective
pride of "self" is what
keeps many seekers from
taking the final leap into
what the Buddhists call
"emptiness", and awakening
to Self - and the emptiness
that is not nothing.

It is very difficult for
the ego to surrender to
the very idea that there
is something more beyond
personal linear awareness,
yet it is the requirement
of this absolute surrender
that is a prerequisite to
awakening.

The feeling of "HE" is
stilled, and feels as
if obliterated, upon
awakening. Yet, when the
awakened aspirant "returns
to waking consciousness" -
(which is no longer normal,
but now a consciousness
shared with all the awakened
masters - a Christ Consciousness
or Krishna Consciousness) the
ego is delighted and instilled
with profound bliss and joy
beyond words. Beyond words
because no language can
capture the essence. It
must be experienced to
be known. Bob Rose uses
the taste of an apple -
that cannot be communicated -
as an example.

The ego, or linear and
rational thought, with
attendant emotions, is now
seen as a "secondary"
or false identity (maya),
with the "I-I"(Ramana)
or "I AM the I AM!" now
known experientially
as the primary identity -
above the circumstances
of the world, now having
stepped into perfection.
(Hebrew 5:6)

The ego, nevertheless,
does not entirely submit,
and during the course of
life will attempt to
"rise again". But that's
another story. Bruce Morgen
writes clearly on this issue.

Ramana was a beautiful
teacher, but he was not
the "lone exception".

Open your mind and heart
to see the parallels in
many other enlightened
teachings. Neither Jesus,
nor Ramana, nor any
other truly enlightened
teacher claims exclusivity.

They all teach that what
they "know" can be known
by others, who then become
"as the teacher".

Ramana said that aspirants
meditate to attain (enlightenment),
and awakened meditate to maintain.



--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, Balasubramanian
Radhakrishnan Kumar <kumarbr20@...> wrote:
>
>
> One may not know when it happens ? Because, after the happening,
there is none to recount !It is the end and none can come back to
explain how and what happened. Bhagavan Ramana was the lone exception.
>
>
> To: meditationsocietyofamerica@...: jogeshwarmahanta@...: Tue, 5 Feb
2008 07:26:27 +0000Subject: [Meditation Society of America] Re: Soham
>
>
>
>
> So no experience before that. Just a journey to
Godhood.Right?regards--- In
meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, Balasubramanian
Radhakrishnan Kumar <kumarbr20@> wrote:>> > To feel, that "WHO" will
not be there ! God doesnot say that He is God !> > > To:
meditationsocietyofamerica@: jogeshwarmahanta@: Mon, 4 Feb 2008
16:08:54 +0000Subject: [Meditation Society of America] Re: Soham> > >
> > That is something of distant future. But can any body here can
feel NOW that I am God or I am Brahman?Who feels so?regards--- In
meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, Balasubramanian
Radhakrishnan Kumar <kumarbr20@> wrote:>> > When one becomes God, he
would not be there at all to proclaim anything about him. The feeling
'HE' would vanish once and for all !> > > To:
meditationsocietyofamerica@: jogeshwarmahanta@: Mon, 4 Feb 2008
06:47:33 +0000Subject: [Meditation Society of America] Re: Soham> > >
> > Soham is combination of two Sanskrit words,sah+aham.sah=He refers
to God or Brahmanaham=I amSo "soham" means "I am He" means I am
God.How many of you can feel that you are God?regards--- In
meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, medit8ionsociety
<no_reply@> wrote:>> The last post before this one (which I think >
was very wise and interesting overall) mentioned> paying attention to
your breath as perhaps being> "boring". And that may be the case if
you> don't, so to say, go an extra step in your > methodology and add
an analytical aspect to> your practice. The Soham techinque
description> from our web site, Meditation Station, will> hopefully
point to a deeper than 'boring'> experience, and appreciation for the
potential > benefits of meditative breathing. Enjoy!> >
http://www.meditationsociety.com/week39.html> > SOHAM> > The Bible
tells us that in the beginning there > was the Word, and the Word was
with God, and > the Word was God. But in the beginning, there > were
no words, no languages, or even sounds of > humans or animals. So what
was the Word that > was in the beginning. This has been a great >
mystery, but like the solution to many mysteries, > the answer has
been right under our nose all > along. And that is Soham.> > Soham is
referred to as the "Mahamantra", the > Greatest Mantra, and is
considered along with Om > to be the most powerful of all techniques.
This > was the first meditation technique, both in > antiquity and in
our own lives. The ancient > cavemen, before they had invented
language or > fire, would sit in their dark caves and have > nothing
else to focus on but the sound of their > breath. Similarly, the first
sound we heard when > we were in our mothers' womb was the sound of
her > breath, and this sound has been with us ever since > we drew our
first breath. It negates the need to > rely on any of the words of the
languages of the > world to use as a mantra. It has brought people to
> transcendence of worldly limitations from time > immemorial and
continues to do so. It can be done > even while driving, working, and
doing other acts > of daily life and thereby offers a continuous >
experience of being in the present. This is a > great present, because
Reality takes place now, > in the present. Soham is a wonder-full
meditation > technique and I hope will bring you the experience > of
Knowledge, Consciousness, and Bliss that is > your birthright.> > In
the Bible, when God was asked what his name is, > He answered " I Am
That I Am'. In Sanskrit, the > most ancient of languages, the sound of
the > inhalation is termed So, and the exhalation is > Ham. Combined,
the word Soham is translated as > "I Am He/That". So, whenever you are
doing this > technique, you are calling on God. Every breath thus >
becomes a prayer and adoration.> > The Soham Meditation Technique> >
At the time and in the place where you feel most > comfortable, place
your body in the position that > you have found to be the most
beneficial for > meditation. Close your eyes. Close your ears by >
putting your thumbs in them, or by using earplugs. > This will
intensify the sound of your breath while > diminishing the
distractions that sight and sound > bring. Command your mind to be
silent, your emotions > to be calm, and your body to stay relaxed.
Focus on > the sound of your breath coming in. Associate it > with the
word So. As your breath leaves, listen to > the sound and associate it
with the word Ham. > To pronounce So and Ham correctly, listen to how
> they sound. As with most pranayama (breathing > techniques), Soham
is done either in 3 cycles of > 12 or 12 cycles of 12. One inhalation
and one > exhalation are one respiration. 12 respirations > are one
cycle. For those just starting to use this > technique, it is usual to
silently say the word So > with each inhalation and the word Ham with
each > exhale. When you are focused consistently, > consciously, you
will flow into simply listening > to the sound of Soham. Soham is by
far the easiest > meditation. It comes to all living creatures without
> any effort. And yet it is the deepest possible > technique, as it
presents the opportunity to > meditate on the great mystery of life
and the > life-giver itself.> > No matter how we have acted and
reacted, with each > breath we are forgiven for our so-called sins and
> rewarded with another breath, another heartbeat, and > another
moment of life to cherish. No act of will on > our part can give us
breath. Literally, we are graced > with this gift of life from a power
greater than > ourselves. A corpse has every bone, every organ, and >
every bodily system that we have, and yet it doesn't > have life or
healing energy filling every cell with > every breath, as we have. As
you merge more and > more with Soham, you surrender your reactivity to
> your thoughts, emotions, and sensory impressions. > These are all
just heavy earth-bound suffering-causing > limitations. The divine
energy of Soham is limitless > heavenly love and light. Witness,
surrender all > effort, and fill with this most precious gift of
Grace.> > > > > > > >
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The experience leading
to the presence of God
can be put in words, but
the direct experience
is beyond words.

There comes an intutive
stirring, a longing, a
sense of something missing,
and for those who feel
this urgently, the journey
begins.

Most typically, a guide
is needed - one who has
the experiential knowledge.

Often, the teaching is
to begin meditation...

from there, the experiences
vary, but share some commonality.

What is encountered is
a sense of impending doom,
of what feels like death.

This is the ego's attempt
to remain in charge. And
this is the point where
many turn back.

For those who risk death,
and totality surrender to
the moment...

A light comes.


--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
<jogeshwarmahanta@...> wrote:
>
> Words can be plenty around soham. But what is the experience so far?
> regards
>
>
>
> --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Belyea"
> <jeff@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In
> meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
> > <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
> > >
> > > That is something of distant future. But can any body here can
> feel
> > > NOW that I am God or I am Brahman?
> > >
> > > Who  feels so?
> > > regards
> > >
> >
> > My answer to this is
> > embedded in the previous
> > response, but here another
> > 2 cents worth:
> >
> > This "distant future" is
> > the knot of unrealized
> > religious dogma. It keeps
> > the faithful on a pilgrimage
> > throughout life.
> >
> > Yet all realized masters teach
> > that it is our birthright
> > to know God NOW as a waking
> > Christ Consciousness or
> > Krishna Consciousness (or
> > Samadhi or whatever word
> > works).
> >
> > To proclaim a knowing of
> > God in the NOW is met with
> > suspicion and hostility by
> > the "superstitious" who have
> > subscribed to a blind
> > creed and a pledge to
> > uphold doctrine into which
> > they have no insight.
> >
> > Most admired among the
> > fundamentalists is the
> > pious bent over pilgrim,
> > waiting for that sweet
> > chariot to take them
> > home...some day.
> >
>

---

To: meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com
From: jogeshwarmahanta@...
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 07:26:27 +0000
Subject: [Meditation Society of America] Re: Soham

So no experience before that. Just a journey to Godhood.Right?
regards

--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, Balasubramanian
Radhakrishnan Kumar <kumarbr20@...> wrote:
>
>
> To feel, that "WHO" will not be there ! God doesnot say that He is
God !
>
>
> To: meditationsocietyofamerica@...: jogeshwarmahanta@...: Mon, 4
Feb 2008 16:08:54 +0000Subject: [Meditation Society of America] Re:
Soham
>
>
>
>
> That is something of distant future. But can any body here can
feel NOW that I am God or I am Brahman?Who feels so?regards--- In
meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, Balasubramanian
Radhakrishnan Kumar <kumarbr20@> wrote:>> > When one becomes God, he
would not be there at all to proclaim anything about him. The
feeling 'HE' would vanish once and for all !> > > To:
meditationsocietyofamerica@: jogeshwarmahanta@: Mon, 4 Feb 2008
06:47:33 +0000Subject: [Meditation Society of America] Re: Soham> >
> > > Soham is combination of two Sanskrit words,sah+aham.sah=He
refers to God or Brahmanaham=I amSo "soham" means "I am He" means I
am God.How many of you can feel that you are God?regards--- In
meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, medit8ionsociety
<no_reply@> wrote:>> The last post before this one (which I think >
was very wise and interesting overall) mentioned> paying attention
to your breath as perhaps being> "boring". And that may be the case
if you> don't, so to say, go an extra step in your > methodology and
add an analytical aspect to> your practice. The Soham techinque
description> from our web site, Meditation Station, will> hopefully
point to a deeper than 'boring'> experience, and appreciation for
the potential > benefits of meditative breathing. Enjoy!> >
http://www.meditationsociety.com/week39.html> > SOHAM> > The Bible
tells us that in the beginning there > was the Word, and the Word
was with God, and > the Word was God. But in the beginning, there >
were no words, no languages, or even sounds of > humans or animals.
So what was the Word that > was in the beginning. This has been a
great > mystery, but like the solution to many mysteries, > the
answer has been right under our nose all > along. And that is
Soham.> > Soham is referred to as the "Mahamantra", the > Greatest
Mantra, and is considered along with Om > to be the most powerful of
all techniques. This > was the first meditation technique, both in >
antiquity and in our own lives. The ancient > cavemen, before they
had invented language or > fire, would sit in their dark caves and
have > nothing else to focus on but the sound of their > breath.
Similarly, the first sound we heard when > we were in our mothers'
womb was the sound of her > breath, and this sound has been with us
ever since > we drew our first breath. It negates the need to > rely
on any of the words of the languages of the > world to use as a
mantra. It has brought people to > transcendence of worldly
limitations from time > immemorial and continues to do so. It can be
done > even while driving, working, and doing other acts > of daily
life and thereby offers a continuous > experience of being in the
present. This is a > great present, because Reality takes place now,
> in the present. Soham is a wonder-full meditation > technique and
I hope will bring you the experience > of Knowledge, Consciousness,
and Bliss that is > your birthright.> > In the Bible, when God was
asked what his name is, > He answered " I Am That I Am'. In
Sanskrit, the > most ancient of languages, the sound of the >
inhalation is termed So, and the exhalation is > Ham. Combined, the
word Soham is translated as > "I Am He/That". So, whenever you are
doing this > technique, you are calling on God. Every breath thus >
becomes a prayer and adoration.> > The Soham Meditation Technique> >
At the time and in the place where you feel most > comfortable,
place your body in the position that > you have found to be the most
beneficial for > meditation. Close your eyes. Close your ears by >
putting your thumbs in them, or by using earplugs. > This will
intensify the sound of your breath while > diminishing the
distractions that sight and sound > bring. Command your mind to be
silent, your emotions > to be calm, and your body to stay relaxed.
Focus on > the sound of your breath coming in. Associate it > with
the word So. As your breath leaves, listen to > the sound and
associate it with the word Ham. > To pronounce So and Ham correctly,
listen to how > they sound. As with most pranayama (breathing >
techniques), Soham is done either in 3 cycles of > 12 or 12 cycles
of 12. One inhalation and one > exhalation are one respiration. 12
respirations > are one cycle. For those just starting to use this >
technique, it is usual to silently say the word So > with each
inhalation and the word Ham with each > exhale. When you are focused
consistently, > consciously, you will flow into simply listening >
to the sound of Soham. Soham is by far the easiest > meditation. It
comes to all living creatures without > any effort. And yet it is
the deepest possible > technique, as it presents the opportunity to
> meditate on the great mystery of life and the > life-giver
itself.> > No matter how we have acted and reacted, with each >
breath we are forgiven for our so-called sins and > rewarded with
another breath, another heartbeat, and > another moment of life to
cherish. No act of will on > our part can give us breath. Literally,
we are graced > with this gift of life from a power greater than >
ourselves. A corpse has every bone, every organ, and > every bodily
system that we have, and yet it doesn't > have life or healing
energy filling every cell with > every breath, as we have. As you
merge more and > more with Soham, you surrender your reactivity to >
your thoughts, emotions, and sensory impressions. > These are all
just heavy earth-bound suffering-causing > limitations. The divine
energy of Soham is limitless > heavenly love and light. Witness,
surrender all > effort, and fill with this most precious gift of
Grace.> > > > > > > >
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--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, Balasubramanian
Radhakrishnan Kumar <kumarbr20@...> wrote:
>
>
> To feel, that "WHO" will not be there ! God doesnot say that He is
God !
>
>
> To: meditationsocietyofamerica@...: jogeshwarmahanta@...: Mon, 4
Feb 2008 16:08:54 +0000Subject: [Meditation Society of America] Re:
Soham
>
>
>
>
> That is something of distant future. But can any body here can
feel NOW that I am God or I am Brahman?Who feels so?regards--- In
meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, Balasubramanian
Radhakrishnan Kumar <kumarbr20@> wrote:>> > When one becomes God, he
would not be there at all to proclaim anything about him. The
feeling 'HE' would vanish once and for all !> > > To:
meditationsocietyofamerica@: jogeshwarmahanta@: Mon, 4 Feb 2008
06:47:33 +0000Subject: [Meditation Society of America] Re: Soham> >
> > > Soham is combination of two Sanskrit words,sah+aham.sah=He
refers to God or Brahmanaham=I amSo "soham" means "I am He" means I
am God.How many of you can feel that you are God?regards--- In
meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, medit8ionsociety
<no_reply@> wrote:>> The last post before this one (which I think >
was very wise and interesting overall) mentioned> paying attention
to your breath as perhaps being> "boring". And that may be the case
if you> don't, so to say, go an extra step in your > methodology and
add an analytical aspect to> your practice. The Soham techinque
description> from our web site, Meditation Station, will> hopefully
point to a deeper than 'boring'> experience, and appreciation for
the potential > benefits of meditative breathing. Enjoy!> >
http://www.meditationsociety.com/week39.html> > SOHAM> > The Bible
tells us that in the beginning there > was the Word, and the Word
was with God, and > the Word was God. But in the beginning, there >
were no words, no languages, or even sounds of > humans or animals.
So what was the Word that > was in the beginning. This has been a
great > mystery, but like the solution to many mysteries, > the
answer has been right under our nose all > along. And that is
Soham.> > Soham is referred to as the "Mahamantra", the > Greatest
Mantra, and is considered along with Om > to be the most powerful of
all techniques. This > was the first meditation technique, both in >
antiquity and in our own lives. The ancient > cavemen, before they
had invented language or > fire, would sit in their dark caves and
have > nothing else to focus on but the sound of their > breath.
Similarly, the first sound we heard when > we were in our mothers'
womb was the sound of her > breath, and this sound has been with us
ever since > we drew our first breath. It negates the need to > rely
on any of the words of the languages of the > world to use as a
mantra. It has brought people to > transcendence of worldly
limitations from time > immemorial and continues to do so. It can be
done > even while driving, working, and doing other acts > of daily
life and thereby offers a continuous > experience of being in the
present. This is a > great present, because Reality takes place now,
> in the present. Soham is a wonder-full meditation > technique and
I hope will bring you the experience > of Knowledge, Consciousness,
and Bliss that is > your birthright.> > In the Bible, when God was
asked what his name is, > He answered " I Am That I Am'. In
Sanskrit, the > most ancient of languages, the sound of the >
inhalation is termed So, and the exhalation is > Ham. Combined, the
word Soham is translated as > "I Am He/That". So, whenever you are
doing this > technique, you are calling on God. Every breath thus >
becomes a prayer and adoration.> > The Soham Meditation Technique> >
At the time and in the place where you feel most > comfortable,
place your body in the position that > you have found to be the most
beneficial for > meditation. Close your eyes. Close your ears by >
putting your thumbs in them, or by using earplugs. > This will
intensify the sound of your breath while > diminishing the
distractions that sight and sound > bring. Command your mind to be
silent, your emotions > to be calm, and your body to stay relaxed.
Focus on > the sound of your breath coming in. Associate it > with
the word So. As your breath leaves, listen to > the sound and
associate it with the word Ham. > To pronounce So and Ham correctly,
listen to how > they sound. As with most pranayama (breathing >
techniques), Soham is done either in 3 cycles of > 12 or 12 cycles
of 12. One inhalation and one > exhalation are one respiration. 12
respirations > are one cycle. For those just starting to use this >
technique, it is usual to silently say the word So > with each
inhalation and the word Ham with each > exhale. When you are focused
consistently, > consciously, you will flow into simply listening >
to the sound of Soham. Soham is by far the easiest > meditation. It
comes to all living creatures without > any effort. And yet it is
the deepest possible > technique, as it presents the opportunity to
> meditate on the great mystery of life and the > life-giver
itself.> > No matter how we have acted and reacted, with each >
breath we are forgiven for our so-called sins and > rewarded with
another breath, another heartbeat, and > another moment of life to
cherish. No act of will on > our part can give us breath. Literally,
we are graced > with this gift of life from a power greater than >
ourselves. A corpse has every bone, every organ, and > every bodily
system that we have, and yet it doesn't > have life or healing
energy filling every cell with > every breath, as we have. As you
merge more and > more with Soham, you surrender your reactivity to >
your thoughts, emotions, and sensory impressions. > These are all
just heavy earth-bound suffering-causing > limitations. The divine
energy of Soham is limitless > heavenly love and light. Witness,
surrender all > effort, and fill with this most precious gift of
Grace.> > > > > > > >
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From: jogeshwarmahanta@...
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:08:54 +0000
Subject: [Meditation Society of America] Re: Soham

That is something of distant future. But can any body here can feel
NOW that I am God or I am Brahman?

Who feels so?
regards

--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, Balasubramanian
Radhakrishnan Kumar <kumarbr20@...> wrote:
>
>
> When one becomes God, he would not be there at all to proclaim
anything about him. The feeling 'HE' would vanish once and for all !
>
>
> To: meditationsocietyofamerica@...: jogeshwarmahanta@...: Mon, 4
Feb 2008 06:47:33 +0000Subject: [Meditation Society of America] Re:
Soham
>
>
>
>
> Soham is combination of two Sanskrit words,sah+aham.sah=He refers
to God or Brahmanaham=I amSo "soham" means "I am He" means I am
God.How many of you can feel that you are God?regards--- In
meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, medit8ionsociety
<no_reply@> wrote:>> The last post before this one (which I think >
was very wise and interesting overall) mentioned> paying attention
to your breath as perhaps being> "boring". And that may be the case
if you> don't, so to say, go an extra step in your > methodology and
add an analytical aspect to> your practice. The Soham techinque
description> from our web site, Meditation Station, will> hopefully
point to a deeper than 'boring'> experience, and appreciation for
the potential > benefits of meditative breathing. Enjoy!> >
http://www.meditationsociety.com/week39.html> > SOHAM> > The Bible
tells us that in the beginning there > was the Word, and the Word
was with God, and > the Word was God. But in the beginning, there >
were no words, no languages, or even sounds of > humans or animals.
So what was the Word that > was in the beginning. This has been a
great > mystery, but like the solution to many mysteries, > the
answer has been right under our nose all > along. And that is
Soham.> > Soham is referred to as the "Mahamantra", the > Greatest
Mantra, and is considered along with Om > to be the most powerful of
all techniques. This > was the first meditation technique, both in >
antiquity and in our own lives. The ancient > cavemen, before they
had invented language or > fire, would sit in their dark caves and
have > nothing else to focus on but the sound of their > breath.
Similarly, the first sound we heard when > we were in our mothers'
womb was the sound of her > breath, and this sound has been with us
ever since > we drew our first breath. It negates the need to > rely
on any of the words of the languages of the > world to use as a
mantra. It has brought people to > transcendence of worldly
limitations from time > immemorial and continues to do so. It can be
done > even while driving, working, and doing other acts > of daily
life and thereby offers a continuous > experience of being in the
present. This is a > great present, because Reality takes place now,
> in the present. Soham is a wonder-full meditation > technique and
I hope will bring you the experience > of Knowledge, Consciousness,
and Bliss that is > your birthright.> > In the Bible, when God was
asked what his name is, > He answered " I Am That I Am'. In
Sanskrit, the > most ancient of languages, the sound of the >
inhalation is termed So, and the exhalation is > Ham. Combined, the
word Soham is translated as > "I Am He/That". So, whenever you are
doing this > technique, you are calling on God. Every breath thus >
becomes a prayer and adoration.> > The Soham Meditation Technique> >
At the time and in the place where you feel most > comfortable,
place your body in the position that > you have found to be the most
beneficial for > meditation. Close your eyes. Close your ears by >
putting your thumbs in them, or by using earplugs. > This will
intensify the sound of your breath while > diminishing the
distractions that sight and sound > bring. Command your mind to be
silent, your emotions > to be calm, and your body to stay relaxed.
Focus on > the sound of your breath coming in. Associate it > with
the word So. As your breath leaves, listen to > the sound and
associate it with the word Ham. > To pronounce So and Ham correctly,
listen to how > they sound. As with most pranayama (breathing >
techniques), Soham is done either in 3 cycles of > 12 or 12 cycles
of 12. One inhalation and one > exhalation are one respiration. 12
respirations > are one cycle. For those just starting to use this >
technique, it is usual to silently say the word So > with each
inhalation and the word Ham with each > exhale. When you are focused
consistently, > consciously, you will flow into simply listening >
to the sound of Soham. Soham is by far the easiest > meditation. It
comes to all living creatures without > any effort. And yet it is
the deepest possible > technique, as it presents the opportunity to
> meditate on the great mystery of life and the > life-giver
itself.> > No matter how we have acted and reacted, with each >
breath we are forgiven for our so-called sins and > rewarded with
another breath, another heartbeat, and > another moment of life to
cherish. No act of will on > our part can give us breath. Literally,
we are graced > with this gift of life from a power greater than >
ourselves. A corpse has every bone, every organ, and > every bodily
system that we have, and yet it doesn't > have life or healing
energy filling every cell with > every breath, as we have. As you
merge more and > more with Soham, you surrender your reactivity to >
your thoughts, emotions, and sensory impressions. > These are all
just heavy earth-bound suffering-causing > limitations. The divine
energy of Soham is limitless > heavenly love and light. Witness,
surrender all > effort, and fill with this most precious gift of
Grace.>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Words can be plenty around soham. But what is the experience so far?
regards



--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Belyea"
<jeff@...> wrote:
>
> --- In
meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
> <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
> >
> > That is something of distant future. But can any body here can
feel
> > NOW that I am God or I am Brahman?
> >
> > Who  feels so?
> > regards
> >
>
> My answer to this is
> embedded in the previous
> response, but here another
> 2 cents worth:
>
> This "distant future" is
> the knot of unrealized
> religious dogma. It keeps
> the faithful on a pilgrimage
> throughout life.
>
> Yet all realized masters teach
> that it is our birthright
> to know God NOW as a waking
> Christ Consciousness or
> Krishna Consciousness (or
> Samadhi or whatever word
> works).
>
> To proclaim a knowing of
> God in the NOW is met with
> suspicion and hostility by
> the "superstitious" who have
> subscribed to a blind
> creed and a pledge to
> uphold doctrine into which
> they have no insight.
>
> Most admired among the
> fundamentalists is the
> pious bent over pilgrim,
> waiting for that sweet
> chariot to take them
> home...some day.
>

--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
<jogeshwarmahanta@...> wrote:
>
> That is something of distant future. But can any body here can feel
> NOW that I am God or I am Brahman?
>
> Who  feels so?
> regards
>

My answer to this is
embedded in the previous
response, but here another
2 cents worth:

This "distant future" is
the knot of unrealized
religious dogma. It keeps
the faithful on a pilgrimage
throughout life.

Yet all realized masters teach
that it is our birthright
to know God NOW as a waking
Christ Consciousness or
Krishna Consciousness (or
Samadhi or whatever word
works).

To proclaim a knowing of
God in the NOW is met with
suspicion and hostility by
the "superstitious" who have
subscribed to a blind
creed and a pledge to
uphold doctrine into which
they have no insight.

Most admired among the
fundamentalists is the
pious bent over pilgrim,
waiting for that sweet
chariot to take them
home...some day.

Responding to the section
about "In the beginning
was the word...". The
translation of "word" came
from "logos" or logo -
which is an identity or
symbol - as in a logo design,
such as the Nike swoop.

So, it might have read:

"In the beginning was the
identity, the reality,
the absolute nondual 'God'" -
referred to by use of a
logo, a necessary device
for the dualistic use of
communication required
to make reference to the
"I Am That I Am,".

The Mahamantra accesses
this without "words", and
so the explanation offered
that "Soham" is the beginning
"word" is also plausible.


--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
<jogeshwarmahanta@...> wrote:
>
> > When one becomes God, he would not be there at all to proclaim
> anything about him. The feeling 'HE' would vanish once and for all !
> >

When one awakens to the
indwelling God (and
vice versa), and the
sure knowledge that All
is God, and therefore,
even while in this human
form, we are a flame, a
spark of God's fire...

The feeling of "HE" does
not vanish, although that
is the fear of the ego,
and the misinterpreted
report of many teachers.

This fear and protective
pride of "self" is what
keeps many seekers from
taking the final leap into
what the Buddhists call
"emptiness", and awakening
to Self - and the emptiness
that is not nothing.

It is very difficult for
the ego to surrender to
the very idea that there
is something more beyond
personal linear awareness,
yet it is the requirement
of this absolute surrender
that is a prerequisite to
awakening.

The feeling of "HE" is
stilled, and feels as
if obliterated, upon
awakening. Yet, when the
awakened aspirant "returns
to waking consciousness" -
(which is no longer normal,
but now a consciousness
shared with all the awakened
masters - a Christ Consciousness
or Krishna Consciousness) the
ego is delighted and instilled
with profound bliss and joy
beyond words. Beyond words
because no language can
capture the essence. It
must be experienced to
be known. Bob Rose uses
the taste of an apple -
that cannot be communicated -
as an example.

The ego, or linear and
rational thought, with
attendant emotions, is now
seen as a "secondary"
or false identity (maya),
with the "I-I"(Ramana)
or "I AM the I AM!" now
known experientially
as the primary identity -
above the circumstances
of the world, now having
stepped into perfection.
(Hebrew 5:6)

The ego, nevertheless,
does not entirely submit,
and during the course of
life will attempt to
"rise again". But that's
another story. Bruce Morgen
writes clearly on this issue.

That is something of distant future. But can any body here can feel
NOW that I am God or I am Brahman?

Who  feels so?
regards



--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, Balasubramanian
Radhakrishnan Kumar <kumarbr20@...> wrote:
>
>
> When one becomes God, he would not be there at all to proclaim
anything about him. The feeling 'HE' would vanish once and for all !
>
>
> To: meditationsocietyofamerica@...: jogeshwarmahanta@...: Mon, 4
Feb 2008 06:47:33 +0000Subject: [Meditation Society of America] Re:
Soham
>
>
>
>
> Soham is combination of two Sanskrit words,sah+aham.sah=He refers
to God or Brahmanaham=I amSo "soham" means "I am He" means I am
God.How many of you can feel that you are God?regards--- In
meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, medit8ionsociety
<no_reply@> wrote:>> The last post before this one (which I think >
was very wise and interesting overall) mentioned> paying attention
to your breath as perhaps being> "boring". And that may be the case
if you> don't, so to say, go an extra step in your > methodology and
add an analytical aspect to> your practice. The Soham techinque
description> from our web site, Meditation Station, will> hopefully
point to a deeper than 'boring'> experience, and appreciation for
the potential > benefits of meditative breathing. Enjoy!> >
http://www.meditationsociety.com/week39.html> > SOHAM> > The Bible
tells us that in the beginning there > was the Word, and the Word
was with God, and > the Word was God. But in the beginning, there >
were no words, no languages, or even sounds of > humans or animals.
So what was the Word that > was in the beginning. This has been a
great > mystery, but like the solution to many mysteries, > the
answer has been right under our nose all > along. And that is
Soham.> > Soham is referred to as the "Mahamantra", the > Greatest
Mantra, and is considered along with Om > to be the most powerful of
all techniques. This > was the first meditation technique, both in >
antiquity and in our own lives. The ancient > cavemen, before they
had invented language or > fire, would sit in their dark caves and
have > nothing else to focus on but the sound of their > breath.
Similarly, the first sound we heard when > we were in our mothers'
womb was the sound of her > breath, and this sound has been with us
ever since > we drew our first breath. It negates the need to > rely
on any of the words of the languages of the > world to use as a
mantra. It has brought people to > transcendence of worldly
limitations from time > immemorial and continues to do so. It can be
done > even while driving, working, and doing other acts > of daily
life and thereby offers a continuous > experience of being in the
present. This is a > great present, because Reality takes place now,
> in the present. Soham is a wonder-full meditation > technique and
I hope will bring you the experience > of Knowledge, Consciousness,
and Bliss that is > your birthright.> > In the Bible, when God was
asked what his name is, > He answered " I Am That I Am'. In
Sanskrit, the > most ancient of languages, the sound of the >
inhalation is termed So, and the exhalation is > Ham. Combined, the
word Soham is translated as > "I Am He/That". So, whenever you are
doing this > technique, you are calling on God. Every breath thus >
becomes a prayer and adoration.> > The Soham Meditation Technique> >
At the time and in the place where you feel most > comfortable,
place your body in the position that > you have found to be the most
beneficial for > meditation. Close your eyes. Close your ears by >
putting your thumbs in them, or by using earplugs. > This will
intensify the sound of your breath while > diminishing the
distractions that sight and sound > bring. Command your mind to be
silent, your emotions > to be calm, and your body to stay relaxed.
Focus on > the sound of your breath coming in. Associate it > with
the word So. As your breath leaves, listen to > the sound and
associate it with the word Ham. > To pronounce So and Ham correctly,
listen to how > they sound. As with most pranayama (breathing >
techniques), Soham is done either in 3 cycles of > 12 or 12 cycles
of 12. One inhalation and one > exhalation are one respiration. 12
respirations > are one cycle. For those just starting to use this >
technique, it is usual to silently say the word So > with each
inhalation and the word Ham with each > exhale. When you are focused
consistently, > consciously, you will flow into simply listening >
to the sound of Soham. Soham is by far the easiest > meditation. It
comes to all living creatures without > any effort. And yet it is
the deepest possible > technique, as it presents the opportunity to
> meditate on the great mystery of life and the > life-giver
itself.> > No matter how we have acted and reacted, with each >
breath we are forgiven for our so-called sins and > rewarded with
another breath, another heartbeat, and > another moment of life to
cherish. No act of will on > our part can give us breath. Literally,
we are graced > with this gift of life from a power greater than >
ourselves. A corpse has every bone, every organ, and > every bodily
system that we have, and yet it doesn't > have life or healing
energy filling every cell with > every breath, as we have. As you
merge more and > more with Soham, you surrender your reactivity to >
your thoughts, emotions, and sensory impressions. > These are all
just heavy earth-bound suffering-causing > limitations. The divine
energy of Soham is limitless > heavenly love and light. Witness,
surrender all > effort, and fill with this most precious gift of
Grace.>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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To: meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com
From: jogeshwarmahanta@...
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 06:47:33 +0000
Subject: [Meditation Society of America] Re: Soham

Soham is combination of two Sanskrit words,sah+aham.

sah=He refers to God or Brahman
aham=I am

So "soham" means "I am He" means I am God.

How many of you can feel that you are God?
regards

--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, medit8ionsociety
<no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> The last post before this one (which I think
> was very wise and interesting overall) mentioned
> paying attention to your breath as perhaps being
> "boring". And that may be the case if you
> don't, so to say, go an extra step in your
> methodology and add an analytical aspect to
> your practice. The Soham techinque description
> from our web site, Meditation Station, will
> hopefully point to a deeper than 'boring'
> experience, and appreciation for the potential
> benefits of meditative breathing. Enjoy!
>
> http://www.meditationsociety.com/week39.html
>
> SOHAM
>
> The Bible tells us that in the beginning there
> was the Word, and the Word was with God, and
> the Word was God. But in the beginning, there
> were no words, no languages, or even sounds of
> humans or animals. So what was the Word that
> was in the beginning. This has been a great
> mystery, but like the solution to many mysteries,
> the answer has been right under our nose all
> along. And that is Soham.
>
> Soham is referred to as the "Mahamantra", the
> Greatest Mantra, and is considered along with Om
> to be the most powerful of all techniques. This
> was the first meditation technique, both in
> antiquity and in our own lives. The ancient
> cavemen, before they had invented language or
> fire, would sit in their dark caves and have
> nothing else to focus on but the sound of their
> breath. Similarly, the first sound we heard when
> we were in our mothers' womb was the sound of her
> breath, and this sound has been with us ever since
> we drew our first breath. It negates the need to
> rely on any of the words of the languages of the
> world to use as a mantra. It has brought people to
> transcendence of worldly limitations from time
> immemorial and continues to do so. It can be done
> even while driving, working, and doing other acts
> of daily life and thereby offers a continuous
> experience of being in the present. This is a
> great present, because Reality takes place now,
> in the present. Soham is a wonder-full meditation
> technique and I hope will bring you the experience
> of Knowledge, Consciousness, and Bliss that is
> your birthright.
>
> In the Bible, when God was asked what his name is,
> He answered " I Am That I Am'. In Sanskrit, the
> most ancient of languages, the sound of the
> inhalation is termed So, and the exhalation is
> Ham. Combined, the word Soham is translated as
> "I Am He/That". So, whenever you are doing this
> technique, you are calling on God. Every breath thus
> becomes a prayer and adoration.
>
> The Soham Meditation Technique
>
> At the time and in the place where you feel most
> comfortable, place your body in the position that
> you have found to be the most beneficial for
> meditation. Close your eyes. Close your ears by
> putting your thumbs in them, or by using earplugs.
> This will intensify the sound of your breath while
> diminishing the distractions that sight and sound
> bring. Command your mind to be silent, your emotions
> to be calm, and your body to stay relaxed. Focus on
> the sound of your breath coming in. Associate it
> with the word So. As your breath leaves, listen to
> the sound and associate it with the word Ham.
> To pronounce So and Ham correctly, listen to how
> they sound. As with most pranayama (breathing
> techniques), Soham is done either in 3 cycles of
> 12 or 12 cycles of 12. One inhalation and one
> exhalation are one respiration. 12 respirations
> are one cycle. For those just starting to use this
> technique, it is usual to silently say the word So
> with each inhalation and the word Ham with each
> exhale. When you are focused consistently,
> consciously, you will flow into simply listening
> to the sound of Soham. Soham is by far the easiest
> meditation. It comes to all living creatures without
> any effort. And yet it is the deepest possible
> technique, as it presents the opportunity to
> meditate on the great mystery of life and the
> life-giver itself.
>
> No matter how we have acted and reacted, with each
> breath we are forgiven for our so-called sins and
> rewarded with another breath, another heartbeat, and
> another moment of life to cherish. No act of will on
> our part can give us breath. Literally, we are graced
> with this gift of life from a power greater than
> ourselves. A corpse has every bone, every organ, and
> every bodily system that we have, and yet it doesn't
> have life or healing energy filling every cell with
> every breath, as we have. As you merge more and
> more with Soham, you surrender your reactivity to
> your thoughts, emotions, and sensory impressions.
> These are all just heavy earth-bound suffering-causing
> limitations. The divine energy of Soham is limitless
> heavenly love and light. Witness, surrender all
> effort, and fill with this most precious gift of Grace.
>

Soham is combination of two Sanskrit words,sah+aham.

sah=He refers to God or Brahman
aham=I am

So "soham" means "I am He" means I am God.

How many of you can feel that you are God?
regards



--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, medit8ionsociety
<no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> The last post before this one (which I think
> was very wise and interesting overall) mentioned
> paying attention to your breath as perhaps being
> "boring". And that may be the case if you
> don't, so to say, go an extra step in your
> methodology and add an analytical aspect to
> your practice. The Soham techinque description
> from our web site, Meditation Station, will
> hopefully point to a deeper than 'boring'
> experience, and appreciation for the potential
> benefits of meditative breathing. Enjoy!
>
> http://www.meditationsociety.com/week39.html
>
> SOHAM
>
> The Bible tells us that in the beginning there
> was the Word, and the Word was with God, and
> the Word was God. But in the beginning, there
> were no words, no languages, or even sounds of
> humans or animals. So what was the Word that
> was in the beginning. This has been a great
> mystery, but like the solution to many mysteries,
> the answer has been right under our nose all
> along. And that is Soham.
>
> Soham is referred to as the "Mahamantra", the
> Greatest Mantra, and is considered along with Om
> to be the most powerful of all techniques. This
> was the first meditation technique, both in
> antiquity and in our own lives. The ancient
> cavemen, before they had invented language or
> fire, would sit in their dark caves and have
> nothing else to focus on but the sound of their
> breath. Similarly, the first sound we heard when
> we were in our mothers' womb was the sound of her
> breath, and this sound has been with us ever since
> we drew our first breath. It negates the need to
> rely on any of the words of the languages of the
> world to use as a mantra. It has brought people to
> transcendence of worldly limitations from time
> immemorial and continues to do so. It can be done
> even while driving, working, and doing other acts
> of daily life and thereby offers a continuous
> experience of being in the present. This is a
> great present, because Reality takes place now,
> in the present. Soham is a wonder-full meditation
> technique and I hope will bring you the experience
> of Knowledge, Consciousness, and Bliss that is
> your birthright.
>
> In the Bible, when God was asked what his name is,
> He answered " I Am That I Am'. In Sanskrit, the
> most ancient of languages, the sound of the
> inhalation is termed So, and the exhalation is
> Ham. Combined, the word Soham is translated as
> "I Am He/That". So, whenever you are doing this
> technique, you are calling on God. Every breath thus
> becomes a prayer and adoration.
>
> The Soham Meditation Technique
>
> At the time and in the place where you feel most
> comfortable, place your body in the position that
> you have found to be the most beneficial for
> meditation. Close your eyes. Close your ears by
> putting your thumbs in them, or by using earplugs.
> This will intensify the sound of your breath while
> diminishing the distractions that sight and sound
> bring. Command your mind to be silent, your emotions
> to be calm, and your body to stay relaxed. Focus on
> the sound of your breath coming in. Associate it
> with the word So. As your breath leaves, listen to
> the sound and associate it with the word Ham.
> To pronounce So and Ham correctly, listen to how
> they sound. As with most pranayama (breathing
> techniques), Soham is done either in 3 cycles of
> 12 or 12 cycles of 12. One inhalation and one
> exhalation are one respiration. 12 respirations
> are one cycle. For those just starting to use this
> technique, it is usual to silently say the word So
> with each inhalation and the word Ham with each
> exhale. When you are focused consistently,
> consciously, you will flow into simply listening
> to the sound of Soham. Soham is by far the easiest
> meditation. It comes to all living creatures without
> any effort. And yet it is the deepest possible
> technique, as it presents the opportunity to
> meditate on the great mystery of life and the
> life-giver itself.
>
> No matter how we have acted and reacted, with each
> breath we are forgiven for our so-called sins and
> rewarded with another breath, another heartbeat, and
> another moment of life to cherish. No act of will on
> our part can give us breath. Literally, we are graced
> with this gift of life from a power greater than
> ourselves. A corpse has every bone, every organ, and
> every bodily system that we have, and yet it doesn't
> have life or healing energy filling every cell with
> every breath, as we have. As you merge more and
> more with Soham, you surrender your reactivity to
> your thoughts, emotions, and sensory impressions.
> These are all just heavy earth-bound suffering-causing
> limitations. The divine energy of Soham is limitless
> heavenly love and light. Witness, surrender all
> effort, and fill with this most precious gift of Grace.
>

A Healthy Ego

"Don't try to get rid of your ego. Without ego,
there's no incentive. Even God has a super-ego,
otherwise why would God create the universe?
Just change your ego. Make it healthy. If you
get rid of it, you will be useless. But if you
purify it by changing 'I' to 'we' and 'mine' to
'our,' then you have gone to the root cause and
transformed it. Then you can develop a strong,
healthy ego. After all, what is ego? It's just
the individual feeling, which eventually disappears
in the universality of God. Until then, it is your
ego that takes you toward God. Without that good ego,
how could you do your sadhana or spiritual practice?
To approach God, you need the ego. But as you get
very close, you lose it."

"God bless you. Om Shanthi, Shanthi, Shanthi."

Swami Satchidananda

To subscribe to Weekly Words of Wisdom, email:
wordsofwisdom@...

Friends! Thanks for the interest. Let me repeat the notional formula
and the mantra.Let it pervade all states,sleep,awakened and dream.

The notional formula:
>
> Health power/longevity =f(RxHT/UHT)
>
> Where
> f=function f
> R=resilience
> HT=healthy thoughts
> UHT=unhealthy thoughts.
>
> Mantra-LET US ATTAIN PERFECTION AND PLEASURES IN THE CONSTANT FLOW
> OF CLEAR,VIVID AND CORRECT FEELINGS AND IDEAS AND NOT ANY WRONG
> FEELING AND IDEA INSTANTLY, PERFECTLY,PERMANENTLY AND
SPONTANEOUSLY.
> regards




--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Aideen McKenna"
<aideenmck@...> wrote:
>
> You've brought about real healing in your body.  It's wonderful to
read your
> posts.
>
> I have a very soft spot for Lawrence LeShan, whose book &
tape "How to
> Meditate" saved my sanity years ago.
>
> If you google "psychoneuroimmunology cancer", you may find the
sort of thing
> you were searching for.  (I haven't time right now to check that
out
> thoroughly).
>
> I believe Jon Kabat-Zinn is doing work with cancer patients using
meditation
> as a technique.
>
>
>
>    _____
>
> From: meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> westwindwood2003
> Sent: February 3, 2008 3:03 PM
> To: meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Meditation Society of America] Meditation and Health
>
>
>
> --- In HYPERLINK
> "mailto:meditationsocietyofamerica%
40yahoogroups.com"meditationsocietyof-ame
> rica@..., "jogeshwarmahanta"
> <jogeshwarmahanta@> wrote:
> >
> > Strange! No interest in either preventive or therapeutic aspect
of
> > meditation or guided imagery.
>
> For using meditation for dealing with immune system problems such
as
> cancer and arthritis, I thought of the book, You Can Fight For
Your
> Life: Emotional Factors in the Treatment of Cancer by Lawrence
LeShan
> (Paperback - Jan 25, 1980), which is still in print. LeShan
> counseled terminal cancer patients in a medical setting, evolving
a
> technique where about 50% of his clients survived. The difference
in
> his approach was to ask, "what is going right" rather than "what
is
> wrong" in a clients life. It is not much to go on for other
> psychologists, who might want to duplicate his success and it
seems
> not much is being done now days because when I Google the three
> words, cancer remission psychology, I find nothing significant.
> LeShan has also written books on beginning meditation and so I
wonder
> if this also influenced his counseling technique. Perhaps
meditation
> also gave him an orientation that helped his clients.
>
> If a psychologist asks what is wrong, the stressful and negative
> aspects of the cancer patient's life are brought into the
> consciousness and the patient thinks "what hope is there". If the
> question is what is right, then hope for the future is at least a
> consideration and avenues can be explored. This is similar to a
> procedure in meditation where a person can use a good emotion to
> cancel another negative one that keeps coming up in meditation.
You
> can counter a negative emotion by substituting a positive one.
>
> The psychologist has to be open to what the client says and be
fully
> engaged to allow a complete exploration. I think in some way,
LeShan
> would allow the same kinds of feelings that would come up in
> meditation to be expressed by the client in counseling. For
examples
> of type of feelings, see pages 26 and 27 in
> HYPERLINK
> "http://www.urbandharma.org/pdf/mindfulness_in_plain_english.pdf"ht
tp://www.
> urbandha-rma.org/pdf/-mindfulness_-in_plain_-english.pdf
> Exploration of feelings can then evolve into a way for the client
to
> rationalize or otherwise find a way to reduce the stress in their
> life to allow their immune system to strengthen and eliminate the
> cancer. Another book, although not quite explicit as LeShan's, is
> Kitchen Table Wisdom: Stories That Heal by Rachel Naomi Remen.
>
> Soon after I discovered meditation in my early thirties, I dealt
with
> arthritis. I had fallen off a ladder onto my shoulder while
working
> for my uncle in his orchard, and I had an arthritic back, and a
> disintegrating disk. They were talking about removing the disk. I
> was in some pain and needed a special bed. I though that if
> meditation could speed healing, then maybe I would work on my
back.
> Well I tried to do imaging and found a feeling of a block. I then
> tried looking at my feelings by taking the thought of what I
wanted
> to look at into meditation and found a reason for the bad back.
> Seems I wanted people to feel sorry for me. Since no one was doing
> that, I figured I had better give this feeling up since it was not
> doing anything for me. After that, healing moved along. In two
> months, I had no more pain, and to this day I have never had any
back
> trouble, except for sore muscles when I work too hard, but the
next
> day everything is back to normal.
>
> About ten years after I started meditating, I found I had a small
pea
> size lump under my skin, but the skin itself looked normal. The
lump
> had roots extending out from the lump with a half-inch radius. Now
I
> do not know what that really was, but I did meditation, looked at
> emotional issues, found a reason, rationalized a solution, and the
> roots got rounded on the ends and everything shrunk to nothing in
> about five days. I though this may have been some kind of cancer,
> but we will never know since no doctors were involved.
>
> Move forward to March 2005 and I have been diagnosed with cancer
of
> the colon. I found some emotional issues, but I could not work it
> out intellectually. Life was just too much for me, too stressful,
> but I felt I should be more positive about life so I meditated
some
> more and was told that my time was not up. Confound it. I was
going
> to have to work on life, not give up. I could palpate the cancer
in
> my abdomen, low on the left side, but in ten days it went to about
> half size and got softer. At that point I was scheduled for
surgery
> so I went ahead with it because it would have driven my wife nuts
for
> me not to. The pathology came back, nothing in the lymph nodes and
> the oncologist said it was a `punky' cancer, non-aggressive.
>
>
>
>
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--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jogeshwarmahanta"
<jogeshwarmahanta@...> wrote:
>
> Strange! No interest in either preventive or therapeutic aspect of
> meditation or guided imagery.

For using meditation for dealing with immune system problems such as
cancer and arthritis, I thought of the book, You Can Fight For Your
Life: Emotional Factors in the Treatment of Cancer by Lawrence LeShan
(Paperback - Jan 25, 1980), which is still in print.  LeShan
counseled terminal cancer patients in a medical setting, evolving a
technique where about 50% of his clients survived.  The difference in
his approach was to ask, "what is going right" rather than "what is
wrong" in a clients life.  It is not much to go on for other
psychologists, who might want to duplicate his success and it seems
not much is being done now days because when I Google the three
words, cancer remission psychology, I find nothing significant.
LeShan has also written books on beginning meditation and so I wonder
if this also influenced his counseling technique.  Perhaps meditation
also gave him an orientation that helped his clients.

If a psychologist asks what is wrong, the stressful and negative
aspects of the cancer patient's life are brought into the
consciousness and the patient thinks "what hope is there".  If the
question is what is right, then hope for the future is at least a
consideration and avenues can be explored.  This is similar to a
procedure in meditation where a person can use a good emotion to
cancel another negative one that keeps coming up in meditation. You
can counter a negative emotion by substituting a positive one.

The psychologist has to be open to what the client says and be fully
engaged to allow a complete exploration.  I think in some way, LeShan
would allow the same kinds of feelings that would come up in
meditation to be expressed by the client in counseling.  For examples
of type of feelings, see pages 26 and 27 in
http://www.urbandharma.org/pdf/mindfulness_in_plain_english.pdf
Exploration of feelings can then evolve into a way for the client to
rationalize or otherwise find a way to reduce the stress in their
life to allow their immune system to strengthen and eliminate the
cancer.  Another book, although not quite explicit as LeShan's, is
Kitchen Table Wisdom: Stories That Heal by Rachel Naomi Remen.

Soon after I discovered meditation in my early thirties, I dealt with
arthritis.  I had fallen off a ladder onto my shoulder while working
for my uncle in his orchard, and I had an arthritic back, and a
disintegrating disk.  They were talking about removing the disk.  I
was in some pain and needed a special bed.  I though that if
meditation could speed healing, then maybe I would work on my back.
Well I tried to do imaging and found a feeling of a block.  I then
tried looking at my feelings by taking the thought of what I wanted
to look at into meditation and found a reason for the bad back.
Seems I wanted people to feel sorry for me.  Since no one was doing
that, I figured I had better give this feeling up since it was not
doing anything for me.  After that, healing moved along.  In two
months, I had no more pain, and to this day I have never had any back
trouble, except for sore muscles when I work too hard, but the next
day everything is back to normal.

About ten years after I started meditating, I found I had a small pea
size lump under my skin, but the skin itself looked normal. The lump
had roots extending out from the lump with a half-inch radius.  Now I
do not know what that really was, but I did meditation, looked at
emotional issues, found a reason, rationalized a solution, and the
roots got rounded on the ends and everything shrunk to nothing in
about five days.  I though this may have been some kind of cancer,
but we will never know since no doctors were involved.

Move forward to March 2005 and I have been diagnosed with cancer of
the colon.  I found some emotional issues, but I could not work it
out intellectually.  Life was just too much for me, too stressful,
but I felt I should be more positive about life so I meditated some
more and was told that my time was not up. Confound it.  I was going
to have to work on life, not give up.  I could palpate the cancer in
my abdomen, low on the left side, but in ten days it went to about
half size and got softer.  At that point I was scheduled for surgery
so I went ahead with it because it would have driven my wife nuts for
me not to.  The pathology came back, nothing in the lymph nodes and
the oncologist said it was a `punky' cancer, non-aggressive.

The last post before this one (which I think
was very wise and interesting overall) mentioned
paying attention to your breath as perhaps being
"boring". And that may be the case if you
don't, so to say, go an extra step in your
methodology and add an analytical aspect to
your practice. The Soham techinque description
from our web site, Meditation Station, will
hopefully point to a deeper than 'boring'
experience, and appreciation for the potential
benefits of meditative breathing. Enjoy!

http://www.meditationsociety.com/week39.html

SOHAM

The Bible tells us that in the beginning there
was the Word, and the Word was with God, and
the Word was God. But in the beginning, there
were no words, no languages, or even sounds of
humans or animals. So what was the Word that
was in the beginning. This has been a great
mystery, but like the solution to many mysteries,
the answer has been right under our nose all
along. And that is Soham.

Soham is referred to as the "Mahamantra", the
Greatest Mantra, and is considered along with Om
to be the most powerful of all techniques. This
was the first meditation technique, both in
antiquity and in our own lives. The ancient
cavemen, before they had invented language or
fire, would sit in their dark caves and have
nothing else to focus on but the sound of their
breath. Similarly, the first sound we heard when
we were in our mothers' womb was the sound of her
breath, and this sound has been with us ever since
we drew our first breath. It negates the need to
rely on any of the words of the languages of the
world to use as a mantra. It has brought people to
transcendence of worldly limitations from time
immemorial and continues to do so. It can be done
even while driving, working, and doing other acts
of daily life and thereby offers a continuous
experience of being in the present. This is a
great present, because Reality takes place now,
in the present. Soham is a wonder-full meditation
technique and I hope will bring you the experience
of Knowledge, Consciousness, and Bliss that is
your birthright.

In the Bible, when God was asked what his name is,
He answered " I Am That I Am'. In Sanskrit, the
most ancient of languages, the sound of the
inhalation is termed So, and the exhalation is
Ham. Combined, the word Soham is translated as
"I Am He/That". So, whenever you are doing this
technique, you are calling on God. Every breath thus
becomes a prayer and adoration.

The Soham Meditation Technique

At the time and in the place where you feel most
comfortable, place your body in the position that
you have found to be the most beneficial for
meditation. Close your eyes. Close your ears by
putting your thumbs in them, or by using earplugs.
This will intensify the sound of your breath while
diminishing the distractions that sight and sound
bring. Command your mind to be silent, your emotions
to be calm, and your body to stay relaxed. Focus on
the sound of your breath coming in. Associate it
with the word So. As your breath leaves, listen to
the sound and associate it with the word Ham.
To pronounce So and Ham correctly, listen to how
they sound. As with most pranayama (breathing
techniques), Soham is done either in 3 cycles of
12 or 12 cycles of 12. One inhalation and one
exhalation are one respiration. 12 respirations
are one cycle. For those just starting to use this
technique, it is usual to silently say the word So
with each inhalation and the word Ham with each
exhale. When you are focused consistently,
consciously, you will flow into simply listening
to the sound of Soham. Soham is by far the easiest
meditation. It comes to all living creatures without
any effort. And yet it is the deepest possible
technique, as it presents the opportunity to
meditate on the great mystery of life and the
life-giver itself.

No matter how we have acted and reacted, with each
breath we are forgiven for our so-called sins and
rewarded with another breath, another heartbeat, and
another moment of life to cherish. No act of will on
our part can give us breath. Literally, we are graced
with this gift of life from a power greater than
ourselves. A corpse has every bone, every organ, and
every bodily system that we have, and yet it doesn't
have life or healing energy filling every cell with
every breath, as we have. As you merge more and
more with Soham, you surrender your reactivity to
your thoughts, emotions, and sensory impressions.
These are all just heavy earth-bound suffering-causing
limitations. The divine energy of Soham is limitless
heavenly love and light. Witness, surrender all
effort, and fill with this most precious gift of Grace.

> Question: All teachers advise to meditate. What is
> the purpose of meditation?

I took up meditation because I knew I was missing compassion for
others.  I was not available when another desperately needed help
with disastrous consequences.  I felt there was something missing in
me so I went on a quest. Serendipity is a good word here because it
was just pure luck discovering meditation, as I did not even knowing
what I was looking for.  However, until I was ready to pickup
meditatoion, the interest just was not there.  No teacher could tell
me; however, life certainly told me.  Perhaps for some meditation is
the release from the treadmill of desire and aversion, or maybe that
life ultimately only offers death disease and old age or whatever
your particular suffering is about.  But for me, it was that I wanted
to be a better person.  My path to meditation was very circuitous,
but that is maybe for another time.  What meditation does can vary,
for instance it can have a profound influence on the immune system
because of stress relief, which means that cancer or arthritis issues
are manageable by some meditators, at least that is my personal
experience, but this is a complex issue involving profound self
knowledge.  Health issues aside, meditation is still about profound
self-knowledge.

OK, so how does one meditate?  First off, a person has to have
something to concentrate on.  It can be anything the calculating mind
would immediately find boring, for instance watching the breath.  The
breath goes in and out and there are sensations watching it happen,
ultimately though, one does not calculate the volume of each breath
or rationalize the reason for each breath and so the calculating mind
shuts down.  Big whoop so you come out of concentration, or maybe you
were told to watch the breath and you do it so much that you
completely shut down to the point of being inert.  You want neither
of these; you want it in the middle so that subconscious feelings
come up into consciousness so that you become aware of your own
nature at this particular moment.  Peace and relaxation are a result
of this process and that is good because the feelings that come up
have to be worked with to determine what should be done about ones
situation and it is going to take some hard work to do it, to come up
with ways to counter negative energy.  It is a good idea to have
others around you that are trying to accomplish the same kind of
growth, and most importantly to have a teacher to answer questions
and guide you in your development.  If you have achieved
enlightenment and are in touch with an energy or nature well beyond
your own deluded propensities that gives you guidance on how to grow
into a better being, then you are well established on the path of
knowledge and will ultimately become like that presence, which is not
like yourself at this present time.

Maharaj: For meditation you should sit with
identification with the knowledge "I am" only
and have confirmed to yourself that you are
not the body.  You must dwell only in that
knowledge "I am"--not merely the words "I am."
The design of your body does not signify your
identification.  And also, the name which is
given to you or to the body is not your correct
identity.  The name which is imposed on you, or
the name which you have heard about you--you have
accepted that name as yourself.  Similarly, since
you have seen your body, you think you are the body.
So you have to give up both these identities.  And
the indwelling knowledge that you are, without words,
that itself you are.  In that identity, you must
stabilize yourself.  And then, whatever doubts you
have, will be cleared by that very knowledge, and
everything will be opened up in you.

......................................................

Question: All teachers advise to meditate. What is
the purpose of meditation?

Maharaj: We know the outer world of sensations
and actions. But of our inner world of thoughts
and feelings we know very little. The primary purpose
of meditation is to become conscious of, and familiar
with, our inner life. The ultimate purpose is to reach
the source of life and consciousness. Incidentally,
practice of meditation affects deeply our character.
We are slaves to what we do not know. Whatever vice or
weakness in ourselves we discover and understand its
causes and its workings, we overcome it by the very
knowing; the unconscious dissolves when brought into
the conscious. The dissolution of the unconscious
release energy; the mind feels adequate and become quiet.

Mullah Nasrudin thought it would be beneficial
to have a college degree so he asked a famous
philosophy Professor to give him a Doctorate
in Wisdom. The Professor had just concluded
his last lecture of the semester and was about
to give his class their final test. Feeling
good about the opportunity to show the students
that he much cleverer than Nasrudin he said to
the Mullah "Well sir, if you can pass the test
I am giving to this class,I will give you
the college degree you want. It will just be
one question, but only if you give the best
answer of any of those taking the test will
you be awarded a passing grade."
Nasrudin agreed and sat down with the students.
The whole class looked forward to the humiliation
they were sure would soon descend on the Mullah.
They were filled with pride amd superiority
because after attending so many of their esteemed
teachers lectures, they were sure that only they
were bright and learned enough to pass the test.

The Professor then got up from his chair and put
it on a table and said...

"Using everything we have learned this semester,
prove that this chair does not exist."

The students began writing their papers. They were
suprised when Nasrudin got up just a few moments after
he had begun. They were sure he had either not understood
the concept of had become frustrated and gave up.
They proceeded to write furiously and copiously.
Some of them were done in a few hours but most spent
the entire afternoon and night writing enough pages
to fill a thick book in their effort to prove the
chair did not exist.

The next day when the grades were posted, the students
were astonished to find that even though Nasrudin
had barely written anything at all, the Professor had
apologized to Nasrudin for his snotty attitude and
had in fact awarded him a Doctor of Wisdom degree. They
asked their teacher how this had occurred, and the
Professor explained:

"His answer consisted of two words"

"What chair?"