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#15830 From: medit8ionsociety
Date: Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:44 am
Subject: Satguru Swami Sivananda on You Tube
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#15828 From: medit8ionsociety
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2007 9:36 pm
Subject: Excellent Intro to Swami Satchidananda on Youtube
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#15827 From: medit8ionsociety
Date: Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:15 pm
Subject: About the "Missing" Techniques
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uday bajare <uday_bajare@...> wrote:
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> Dear Sirs
> My Name is Uday Bajare.I am  from INDIA .I have read your 108
meditation techniques on the website,   and  I am  also interested in
learning all  108  techniques  because on your website we are not able
to  read techniques nos 2) Inner Garden of Eden 3) Visualize Perfect
Self 5) Bathing in Protective Light  6) Little Buddha, Big Buddha
etc…………………………………..
>
>   So I am very keen and interested in  learning all the techniques
and I believe you will definitely  help me out in learning  all the
techniques. My   email id is uday_bajare@...  and I have also
registered for your membership.
>
>   Waiting for your positive reply,

>    Thanking You
>
>   Yours faithfully,
>   Uday Bajare

Dear Uday,
All of the techniques have been shared in our classes
which we held for over 18 years in the Philadelphia
PA, USA area. Many of the ones can only be transmitted
in person and would lose or leave out a lot if simply
put on paper. Some of them, like the Inner Garden of
Eden, are on our Guided Meditation CD and others can be
found in issues of our newsletter The Inner Traveler.
We have been on a sabbatical from classroom teaching
but still do instruct on an individual and small group
basis, and all of the methods (and more) are still
available in this format. Early in January we will begin
working with the Pennsylvania Leadership Charter School
system and will be teaching them how to teach meditation.
This program allows any child in our state to go to school
via computer at home. The state supplies the computer,
web cam and other supplies and the teachers work from
either West Chester or Pittsburg. As the Meditation
Society of America has it's top priority project (besides
freely sharing meditation techniques and concepts) getting
Meditation In Education, we are looking forward to this
opportunity. We may also be doing some of the actual on-line
teaching. We hope to be helpful in training teachers who
can then share this knowledge. We feel that there is nothing
better that we can teach our kids than ways to cope
with stress, and there is no better way than meditation.
In any event, we do share your interest in meditation and
your desire to learn new methods. Perhaps one day soon we
will make the many more we would like to share available
via DVD's or YouTube or some similar way. Unfortunately our
media genius Bob Eck passed away and the universe hasn't yet
replaced him. And as a matter of fact, because no one else
could make use of his valuable top notch equipment, it
was donated to the University of Pennsylvania film
department where it has found a good home and was very
needed  and appreciated. If and when we get another person
who can get these type methods of sharing together, and
has the technology know-how and the equipment to do so,
we will be glad to help this happen. BTW, I do think this
is just a question of when, not if.
Thanks for your interest, and if you ever happen to be
in the area, please contact us and we'll be glad to share
some meditation experiences "live-in-person".
Peace and blessings,
Bob Rose, President,
Meditation Society of America

#15826 From: uday bajare <uday_bajare@...>
Date: Sun Dec 23, 2007 5:18 am
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Dear Sirs
 
 
My Name is Uday Bajare.I am  from INDIA .I have read your 108 meditation techniques on the website,   and  I am  also interested in learning all  108  techniques  because on your website we are not able to  read techniques nos 2) Inner Garden of Eden 3) Visualize Perfect Self 5) Bathing in Protective Light  6) Little Buddha, Big Buddha  etc…………………………………..
 
So I am very keen and interested in  learning all the techniques  and I believe you will definitely  help me out in learning  all the techniques. My   email id is uday_bajare@...  and I have also registered for your membership.
 
Waiting for your positive reply,
 
 
 
 Thanking You
 
Yours faithfully,
Uday Bajare


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#15825 From: "jvmarco" <jvmarco@...>
Date: Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:36 pm
Subject: Lojong Proverbs
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On their path towards realizing Mahasiddhi (Great Magick), the Mahasiddhas (Great Magickians)meditated upon the Lojong Proverbs.

 

·      LOJONG PROVERBS

·      Treat everything you perceive as a dream.

·      Find the consciousness you had before you were born.

·      Let even the remedy itself drop away naturally.

·      Between meditations, treat everything as an illusion.

·      As you breathe in, take in and accept all the sadness, pain, and negativity of the whole world, including yourself, and absorb it into your heart. As you breathe out, pour out all your joy and bliss; bless the whole of existence.

·      Understand your attachments, your aversions, and your indifference, and love them all.

·      When everything goes wrong, treat disaster as a way to wake up.

·      Be grateful to everyone.

·      Don't worry- there's nothing real about your confusion.

·      Always have the support of a joyful mind.

·      Work on your greatest imperfection first.

·      Abandon all hope of results.

·      Accept good and bad fortune with an equal mind.

·      Always meditate on whatever you resent.

·      Focus your body, mind, and spirit on the path.

·      In this life, concentrate on achieving what is most meaningful.



#15824 From: "Sri Bimal Mohanty" <bimal_mohanty@...>
Date: Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:25 am
Subject: CONCLUDING PART of VEDIC VALEDICTORY SERMON.
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#15823 From: medit8ionsociety
Date: Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:41 am
Subject: Let It Go
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The Bible tells us that each man thinks
his burden is the heaviest. For instance,
the poor man looks at the rich man and
envies him thinking his load in life is
lighter. But, you'll recall that the fabled
millionaire Scrooge spent virtually all of
his time worried about people cheating him
out of his fortune and was miserable. So, we
see that self-pity weighs down virtually
everyone. Similarly, we see that one of the
most popular themes on the afternoon talk
shows is "When we were in school, you made
fun of me, but look at me now." And out comes
either a gorgeous woman with a silicon enhanced
body, and a surgically altered, cosmetic covered
and hair dyed head, or a handsome, tanned,
greased, and steroid enhanced muscular man.

Usually the same story is told. They were so
abused by the school bully that they spent
thousands of dollars and years of bodywork just
to prove them wrong and get them to regret their
actions. The host then brings out the villain who
says that they don't even remember the person, and
even though they acknowledge that the person now
is not someone they would make fun of, they no
longer are the type of person who would do that
kind of immature hazing anyway. How anticlimactic
for the person who sought to get back at the long
ago bully. So, it is reasonable for us to conclude
that the person seeking revenge, or whatever you
want to label it, wasted their time by carrying the
hurt and suffering and would have been better off if
they had just gone on their merry way. Our own
perceptions of our burdens are just as unreal as
Scrooge's or the guests on the TV shows, and there
is certainly no need for us to keep carrying our
feelings of frustration, anger, sadness, and so on.
Now, what can we do to cease our needless load lugging?

Our inner Chatterer is constantly labeling things
and then judging them to be good or bad. We hold on
to the pain and frustration of some of the things
that we judge to be bad for years, and a few for the
rest of our lives. This masochistic behavior is
virtually always on a subconscious level. Fortunately,
there is an experiential meditative concept that is a
remedy for this sad paralyzing dysfunction. And that
is to cease carrying negativity around and just be
present, in the moment, and experience your life
consciously as it takes place.

There are two ancient teaching tales that help us
understand the need to quit holding onto that which
we should let go of and begin the process of paying
attention to what is appropriate, healthy, and happy.
The first deals with the ancient story of the two monks
who had taken vows of celibacy as well as their other
holy obligations. As they were walking they encountered
a woman crying by the side of a creek. As they approached,
with tears streaming down her cheeks, she told them
she feared drowning and begged them to help her get to
the other side of the river so she could go to her baby.
With that, one of the monks picked her up on his shoulder
and carried her across the stream. After getting down,
she thanked him and left. The two monks went on their way.

After a while, the monk who hadn't helped turned to
the one who had helped the woman and said, "Why did
you do that? We've taken vows of chastity and we're
not even supposed to look at a woman, much less touch one!"
He replied "When we got to the other side of the water,
I put her down. Why are you still carrying her?" From
this we learn that once life's events have taken place,
they should not be taken with us. Our hands, heart, and
mind should be open and available for the next experience
that we are presented with.

The next story helps us by teaching us where to look
for direction and how. Look at your life as taking a
boat ride from one shore to another. Right now, we're
in the boat in the middle of the lake of life. As we've
traveled, the boat has left a wake. The wake is
analogous to our past, and like the wake a boat leaves
behind, our past does not help propel us. If we spend
our time looking back at our wake, we will be unaware of
and unable to do anything about any hazards we are
approaching. A wise ship's captain looks ahead to the
other shore, aware of the present moment, and having
equipped themselves with excellent navigational skills,
through a lifetime of trial, error, and learning, is
confident in their competence to steer the appropriate course.

The lessons we learn from these stories are to let
go and pay attention. Our inner Chatterer makes us
repetitiously keep suffering from our past "bad".
There is a Witness within that is ever present. It is
the awareness that can, and does silently witness
your mind's mentations, your emotional fluctuations,
and your sense receptions. At every moment of your life,
even in this very second as you read these words, by
being at one with it, you have the opportunity to witness
your life as it takes place.

The more you Witness, the less you Chatter. Recognize
the load you are carrying, put it down and let go of
all the negativity it brings. You will then fill with
the ever-present "good". For each of us there is a
meditative path, be it mantra, breathing techniques,
asking "Who am I", or whatever, that will lead us to
being aware, and be more and more at one with our inner
Witness. By grace this will become our eternal divine
reality. Meditate. Persevere through trial, error, and
learning, and inevitably you will live happily ever after.

This article first appeared in issue #5 of our
newsletter, The Inner Traveler. It also can be
found in the Concepts of Meditation section of our
web site Meditation Station  http://meditationsociety.com/concepts.html

#15822 From: "jogeshwarmahanta" <jogeshwarmahanta@...>
Date: Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:36 am
Subject: Re: The Best Book on Meditation
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Has any body gone through comparative reading and practice of
Magbhagvat Geeta and Patanjali's Yoga Sutras? As I find objectives
of the two texts are diametrically opposite.

From the practice point of view, I think, Yoga Sutras is a better
manual.

Thanks for this thread.
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>
> One of the most common emails the
> Meditation Society of America gets
> asks for advice on which books are
> the best dealing with meditation.
> We had several this week and also
> received an email from the Divya
> Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
> one answer to this question. We'll
> let these quotes speak for themselves:
>
> "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
> reflace about how God created this
> universe everything else seems so superfluous."
> Albert Einstein
>
> "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
> dedicate body, mind and soul
> to pure duty and not to become mental
> voluptuaries at the mercy of
> random desires and undisciplined impulses."
> Mahatma Gandhiji
>
> "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
> of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
> It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
> summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
> hence its enduring value is subject not only to
> India but to all of humanity."
> Aldous Huxley
>
> "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
> human race a living creation rather than a book,
> with a new message for every age and a
> new meaning for every civilization."
> Sri Aurobindo
>
> "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
> stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
> Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
> world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
> Henry David Thoreau
>
> "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
> beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
> enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
> Herman Hesse
>
> "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
> spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
> a call of action to meet the obligations and
> duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
> nature and grander purpose of the universe."
> Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
>
> "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
> It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
> spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
> but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
> old intelligence which in another age and climate
> had pondered and thus disposed of the same
> questions which exercise us."
> Ralph Waldo Emerson
>
> "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
> and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
> has all the attributes of the full-fledged
> montheistic deity and at the same time the
> attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
> Ralph Waldo Emerson
>
> "In order to approach a creation as sublime
> as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
> it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
> Rudolph Steiner
>
> "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
> Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
> fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
> which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
> of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
> think that they are advised to engage in
> warfare. When the second chapter has been read
> it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
> the soul is the ultimate goal to be
> attained. On studying the third chapter it is
> apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
> high priority. If we continue and patiently
> take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
> try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
> we can see that the ultimate conclusion
> is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
> of religion which we possess and fully surrender
> directly unto the Supreme Lord."
> Sri Swami Prabhupada
>
> "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
> actions without any fruitive desires is taught
> by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
> Swami Vivekananda
>
> "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
> reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
> essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
> Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
> and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
> and negative, undesirable influences that are
> opposed to spiritual development, yet
> simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
> to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
> Sri Ramanuja
>
> "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
> or external, that the Gita has not made clear
> and enabled me to deal with or understand."
> Swami Nirmalananda Giri
>
> "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
> stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
> hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
> find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
> to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
> who meditate on the Gita will
> derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
> Mahatma Gandhiji
>
> "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
> the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
> Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
> of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
> Adi Sankara
>
> "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
> actions without any fruitive desires is taught
> by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
> Swami Vivekananda
>
> "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
> His devotee Arjuna."
> Paramahansa Yogananda
>
> "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
> the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
> which is manifested by actions."
> Dr. Albert Schweizer
>

#15821 From: medit8ionsociety
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:09 pm
Subject: Does Time Slow In A Crisis
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In The Matrix, hero Neo wins his battles
when time slows in the simulated world.
In the real world, accident victims often
report a similar slowing as they slide
unavoidably into disaster. But can humans
really experience events in slow motion?

Apparently not, said researchers at Baylor
College of Medicine in Houston, who studied
how volunteers experience time when they
free-fall 100 feet into a net below. Even
though participants remembered their own
falls as having taken one-third longer than
those of the other study participants, they
were not able to see more events in time.
Instead, the longer duration was a trick of
their memory, not an actual slow-motion
experience. The study appears online today
in the journal Public Library of Science One.

"People commonly report that time seemed to
move in slow motion during a car accident,"
said Dr. David Eagleman, assistant professor
of neuroscience and psychiatry and behavioral
sciences at BCM. "Does the experience of slow
motion really happen, or does it only seem to
have happened in retrospect? The answer is
critical for understanding how time is
represented in the brain."

When roller coasters and other scary amusement
park rides did not cause enough fear to make
"time slow down," Eagleman and his graduate
students Chess Stetson and Matthew Fiesta
sought out something even more frightening.
They hit upon Suspended Catch Air Device diving,
a controlled free-fall system in which "divers"
are dropped backwards off a platform 150 feet
up and land safely in a net. Divers are not
attached to ropes and reach 70 miles per hour
during the three-second fall.

"It's the scariest thing I have ever done," said
Eagleman. "I knew it was perfectly safe, and I
also knew that it would be the perfect way to make
people feel as though an event took much longer
than it actually did."

The experiment consisted of two parts. In one, the
researchers asked participants to reproduce with a
stopwatch how long it took someone else to fall,
and then how long their own fall seemed to have
lasted. In general, people estimated that their own
fall appeared 36 percent longer than that of their
compatriots.

However, to determine whether that distortion
meant they could actually see more events happening
in time - like a camera in slow motion - Eagleman
and his students developed a special device called
the perceptual chronometer that was strapped to
the volunteers' wrists. Numbers flickered on the
screen of the watch-like unit. The scientists
adjusted the speed at which the numbers flickered
until it was too fast for the divers to see.

They theorized that if time perception really slowed,
the flickering numbers would appear slow enough for
the divers to easily read while in free-fall.

They found that while the subjects were able to
read numbers presented at normal speeds during
the free-fall, they could not read them at
faster-than-normal speeds.

"We discovered that people are not like Neo in
The Matrix, dodging bullets in slow-mo. The paradox
is that it seemed to participants as though their
fall took a long time. The answer to the paradox is
that time estimation and memory are intertwined:
the volunteers merely thought the fall took a longer
time in retrospect," he said.

During a frightening event, a brain area called the
amygdala becomes more active, laying down a secondary
set of memories that go along with those normally
taken care of by other parts of the brain.

"In this way, frightening events are associated
with richer and denser memories. And the more
memory you have of an event, the longer you believe
it took," Eagleman explained.

The study allowed them to deduce that a person's
perception of time is not a single phenomenon
that speeds or slows. "Your brain is not like a
video camera," said Eagleman.

Eagleman and his team have been able to verify
this conclusion in the laboratory. In an experiment
that appeared in a recent issue of PLoS One,
Eagleman and graduate student Vani Pariyadath
used 'oddballs' in a sequence to bring about a
similar duration distortion. For example, when
they flashed on the computer screen a shoe, a
shoe, a shoe, a flower and a shoe, viewers believed
the flower stayed on the screen longer, even though
it remained there the same amount of time as the shoes.

Pariyadath and Eagleman showed that even though
durations are distorted during the oddball, other
aspects of time - such as flickering lights or
accompanying sounds - do not change.

The conclusion from both studies was the same.

"It can seem as though an event has taken an
unusually long time, but it doesn't mean your
immediate experience of time actually expands.
It simply means that when you look back on it, you
believe it to have taken longer," Eagleman said.

"This is related to the phenomenon that time
seems to speed up as you grow older. When you're
a child, you lay down rich memories for all your
experiences; when your older, you've seen it all
before and lay down fewer memories. Therefore, when
a child looks back at the end of a summer, it seems
to have lasted forever; adults think it zoomed by."

----------------------------
Article adapted by Medical News Today from original press

#15820 From: "Gwyn Plaine" <gplaine@...>
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:13 am
Subject: Re: [Meditation Society of America] The Best Book on Meditation
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The issue for me is, if it requires that level of exegesis even to a Vedic, then I'd say is while it may be a good and comprehensive allegory on the meditative practice, (and I don't think anyone who's studied the field is disagreeing that) it's not 'the best' simply due to the level of opaqueness in the narrative. It is far from a 'how to' on meditation. Yogananda managed to run it to two pretty encyclopaedic slipcovered volumes.As to not getting it... like most religious texts there is the overt meaning, the allegorical meaning and the 'initiate' view. Having spent most of my adult life with my head in Middle Eastern, Southern Asiatic and Far Eastern religious thought, there is a lot that is critically dependent on cultural mores of the region, some that it genuinely a hidden in plain sight version, and a lot that is mental Rorschachery due to later reader's exegetical cultural lens...

Please note, I'm not disagreeing with your point, far from it, but I am presenting a slight cautionary note to the effect there is possibly an inkblot psychology involved.

On Dec 9, 2007 1:57 AM, sean tremblay < bethjams9@...> wrote:

Bob,
Thanks for that. I think "Getting it" is the biggest hurdle when we work with resources outside of our normal cultural context and I do believe I was not getting it for it's deeper meaning but I admit I didn't sit on it much either and in the context you have outlined I should give it a second look, it's funny that it was brought up because it keeps appearing on my coffee table when I have nothing to do.


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sean tremblay <bethjams9@...> wrote:
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> It's been a while since I have read it, But I started browsing
through it again since it sits on my shelf and is a part of my wife's
required reading for her yoga training. I would have to agree with
Gwyn that it seems at least on surface to be a work more concerned
with behavior than spirituality or meditation ...

snip below

The deal here is that many translations are very
hard for Americans to "get". That's one main reason
why I point to Swami Satchidananda's translation. His
Americanized English is pretty clear. One aspect of this
"war story" is that it can be seen to be pointing to the
enemy that is within our mind...greed, hate, anger,
jealousy, etc and that's what we really need to fight.
Raja Yoga is the Yoga of Meditation and it has 8 steps.
Here's the Wikipedia take on them.
The eight limbs of Ashtanga (Raja) Yoga are:

* Yama - Code of conduct - self-restraint
* Niyama - religious observances - commitments
to practice, such as study and devotion
* &#256;sana - integration of mind and body
through physical activity
* Pranayama - regulation of breath leading
to integration of mind and body
* Pratyahara - abstraction of the senses,
withdrawal of the senses of perception from their objects
* Dharana - concentration, one-pointedness of mind
* Dhyana - meditation (quiet activity that
leads to samadhi)
* Samadhi - the quiet state of blissful
awareness, superconscious state

As you can see, meditation has 6 steps before it can
take place. Even just being able to concentrate will
not happen without self-restraint, study, control of
the mind and senses, etc. So if seen as a course in
getting enough self control to meditate,the Gita is
quite a guidebook.Everyone has something that is the
main way that they become distracted when meditating.
For some it can be their emotions, others their bodily
reactivity, and many their mind chatter. That's the war
that we need to wage. And seeing Krishna as the Divine
identity within us and Arjuna as our "normal" mind/ego,
the Gita and its directions on how life should be faced
will well take us to where we must be for meditation to
flow us into Samadhi.
And in any event, it's a bit better than any Rambo movie
if war stories are your thing.
Peace and blessings,
Bob

but I didn't get down to the gnats ass of it. When I first read it I
think I was looking at it from a historical or anthropological view a
curiosity such as reading the Epic of Gilgamesh or the Icelandic
chronicles and I considered it interesting from that point. As an
American and as a bit of an Anarchist in spirit I found the concepts
of total abandonment of self to one duty or station in life to be a
hard pill to swallow especial;y since I am a strong believer in the
individuals choice for "Good" works especially when it come to making
the choice for or against WAR, Violence, Killing ect...Or how we
define the way in which we operate in this world IE what our
> calling is and how we choose to fulfill it. So when Krishna and
Arjuna are poised and ready at the battle field and Arjuna expresses
his doubt I can't help but think of Pakistan and India poised on the
border of Kashmir both parties brandishing the Nuke option One side
believing in Karmic predestination The other in Gods righteous fury
and quite frankly that scares the Bjesus outta me. I might be reading
it wrong but as a piece of literature I still enjoyed as a portal into
the mind of an ancient
> culture
>
> medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Gwyn
Plaine"
> <gplaine@> wrote:
> >
> > So, the Gita?
> >
> Quite possibly the Gita is "best" of the best
> (along with The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali).
> My favorite translation and commentary
> will be found in this version:
> The Living Gita; The Complete Bhagavad Gita
> Author: Sri Swami Satchidananda
> Many other "Best" books can be found on our
> Suggested Reading list:
> http://www.meditationsociety.com/reading.html
> Also, one of the best recent NonDuality books is:
> Essential Writings on Nonduality
> ONE
> Edited by Jerry Katz
> and I would include one of the truly classic
> treasures to be:
> I AM THAT,
> Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
>
> But...I really think that there is no book
> that can do as much for your understanding of
> meditation and help your evolution in
> consciousness as actually meditating.
> Peace and blessings,
> Bob
>
> > On Dec 7, 2007 2:54 PM, medit8ionsociety < no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > One of the most common emails the
> > > Meditation Society of America gets
> > > asks for advice on which books are
> > > the best dealing with meditation.
> > > We had several this week and also
> > > received an email from the Divya
> > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
> > > one answer to this question. We'll
> > > let these quotes speak for themselves:
> > >
> > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
> > > reflace about how God created this
> > > universe everything else seems so superfluous."
> > > Albert Einstein
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
> > > dedicate body, mind and soul
> > > to pure duty and not to become mental
> > > voluptuaries at the mercy of
> > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
> > > Mahatma Gandhiji
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
> > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
> > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
> > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
> > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
> > > India but to all of humanity."
> > > Aldous Huxley
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
> > > human race a living creation rather than a book,
> > > with a new message for every age and a
> > > new meaning for every civilization."
> > > Sri Aurobindo
> > >
> > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
> > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
> > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
> > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
> > > Henry David Thoreau
> > >
> > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
> > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
> > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
> > > Herman Hesse
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
> > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
> > > a call of action to meet the obligations and
> > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
> > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
> > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
> > >
> > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
> > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
> > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
> > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
> > > old intelligence which in another age and climate
> > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
> > > questions which exercise us."
> > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
> > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
> > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
> > > montheistic deity and at the same time the
> > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
> > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
> > >
> > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
> > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
> > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
> > > Rudolph Steiner
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
> > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
> > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
> > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
> > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
> > > think that they are advised to engage in
> > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
> > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
> > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
> > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
> > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
> > > high priority. If we continue and patiently
> > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
> > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
> > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
> > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
> > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
> > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
> > > Sri Swami Prabhupada
> > >
> > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
> > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
> > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
> > > Swami Vivekananda
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
> > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
> > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
> > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
> > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
> > > and negative, undesirable influences that are
> > > opposed to spiritual development, yet
> > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
> > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
> > > Sri Ramanuja
> > >
> > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
> > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
> > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
> > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
> > >
> > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
> > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
> > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
> > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
> > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
> > > who meditate on the Gita will
> > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
> > > Mahatma Gandhiji
> > >
> > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
> > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
> > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
> > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
> > > Adi Sankara
> > >
> > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
> > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
> > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
> > > Swami Vivekananda
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
> > > His devotee Arjuna."
> > > Paramahansa Yogananda
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
> > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
> > > which is manifested by actions."
> > > Dr. Albert Schweizer
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Mon Dec 10, 2007 3:56 pm
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#15817 From: sean tremblay <bethjams9@...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2007 1:57 am
Subject: Re: [Meditation Society of America] The Best Book on Meditation
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Bob,
Thanks for that. I think "Getting it" is the biggest hurdle when we work with resources outside of our normal cultural context and I do believe I was not getting it for it's deeper meaning but I admit I didn't sit on it much either and in the context you have outlined I should give it a second look, it's funny that it was brought up because it keeps appearing on my coffee table when I have nothing to do.

medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
sean tremblay <bethjams9@...> wrote:
>
> It's been a while since I have read it, But I started browsing
through it again since it sits on my shelf and is a part of my wife's
required reading for her yoga training. I would have to agree with
Gwyn that it seems at least on surface to be a work more concerned
with behavior than spirituality or meditation ...

snip below

The deal here is that many translations are very
hard for Americans to "get". That's one main reason
why I point to Swami Satchidananda's translation. His
Americanized English is pretty clear. One aspect of this
"war story" is that it can be seen to be pointing to the
enemy that is within our mind...greed, hate, anger,
jealousy, etc and that's what we really need to fight.
Raja Yoga is the Yoga of Meditation and it has 8 steps.
Here's the Wikipedia take on them.
The eight limbs of Ashtanga (Raja) Yoga are:

* Yama - Code of conduct - self-restraint
* Niyama - religious observances - commitments
to practice, such as study and devotion
* &#256;sana - integration of mind and body
through physical activity
* Pranayama - regulation of breath leading
to integration of mind and body
* Pratyahara - abstraction of the senses,
withdrawal of the senses of perception from their objects
* Dharana - concentration, one-pointedness of mind
* Dhyana - meditation (quiet activity that
leads to samadhi)
* Samadhi - the quiet state of blissful
awareness, superconscious state

As you can see, meditation has 6 steps before it can
take place. Even just being able to concentrate will
not happen without self-restraint, study, control of
the mind and senses, etc. So if seen as a course in
getting enough self control to meditate,the Gita is
quite a guidebook.Everyone has something that is the
main way that they become distracted when meditating.
For some it can be their emotions, others their bodily
reactivity, and many their mind chatter. That's the war
that we need to wage. And seeing Krishna as the Divine
identity within us and Arjuna as our "normal" mind/ego,
the Gita and its directions on how life should be faced
will well take us to where we must be for meditation to
flow us into Samadhi.
And in any event, it's a bit better than any Rambo movie
if war stories are your thing.
Peace and blessings,
Bob

but I didn't get down to the gnats ass of it. When I first read it I
think I was looking at it from a historical or anthropological view a
curiosity such as reading the Epic of Gilgamesh or the Icelandic
chronicles and I considered it interesting from that point. As an
American and as a bit of an Anarchist in spirit I found the concepts
of total abandonment of self to one duty or station in life to be a
hard pill to swallow especial;y since I am a strong believer in the
individuals choice for "Good" works especially when it come to making
the choice for or against WAR, Violence, Killing ect...Or how we
define the way in which we operate in this world IE what our
> calling is and how we choose to fulfill it. So when Krishna and
Arjuna are poised and ready at the battle field and Arjuna expresses
his doubt I can't help but think of Pakistan and India poised on the
border of Kashmir both parties brandishing the Nuke option One side
believing in Karmic predestination The other in Gods righteous fury
and quite frankly that scares the Bjesus outta me. I might be reading
it wrong but as a piece of literature I still enjoyed as a portal into
the mind of an ancient
> culture
>
> medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Gwyn
Plaine"
> <gplaine@> wrote:
> >
> > So, the Gita?
> >
> Quite possibly the Gita is "best" of the best
> (along with The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali).
> My favorite translation and commentary
> will be found in this version:
> The Living Gita; The Complete Bhagavad Gita
> Author: Sri Swami Satchidananda
> Many other "Best" books can be found on our
> Suggested Reading list:
> http://www.meditationsociety.com/reading.html
> Also, one of the best recent NonDuality books is:
> Essential Writings on Nonduality
> ONE
> Edited by Jerry Katz
> and I would include one of the truly classic
> treasures to be:
> I AM THAT,
> Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
>
> But...I really think that there is no book
> that can do as much for your understanding of
> meditation and help your evolution in
> consciousness as actually meditating.
> Peace and blessings,
> Bob
>
> > On Dec 7, 2007 2:54 PM, medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > One of the most common emails the
> > > Meditation Society of America gets
> > > asks for advice on which books are
> > > the best dealing with meditation.
> > > We had several this week and also
> > > received an email from the Divya
> > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
> > > one answer to this question. We'll
> > > let these quotes speak for themselves:
> > >
> > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
> > > reflace about how God created this
> > > universe everything else seems so superfluous."
> > > Albert Einstein
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
> > > dedicate body, mind and soul
> > > to pure duty and not to become mental
> > > voluptuaries at the mercy of
> > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
> > > Mahatma Gandhiji
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
> > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
> > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
> > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
> > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
> > > India but to all of humanity."
> > > Aldous Huxley
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
> > > human race a living creation rather than a book,
> > > with a new message for every age and a
> > > new meaning for every civilization."
> > > Sri Aurobindo
> > >
> > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
> > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
> > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
> > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
> > > Henry David Thoreau
> > >
> > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
> > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
> > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
> > > Herman Hesse
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
> > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
> > > a call of action to meet the obligations and
> > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
> > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
> > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
> > >
> > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
> > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
> > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
> > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
> > > old intelligence which in another age and climate
> > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
> > > questions which exercise us."
> > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
> > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
> > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
> > > montheistic deity and at the same time the
> > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
> > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
> > >
> > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
> > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
> > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
> > > Rudolph Steiner
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
> > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
> > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
> > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
> > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
> > > think that they are advised to engage in
> > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
> > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
> > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
> > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
> > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
> > > high priority. If we continue and patiently
> > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
> > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
> > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
> > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
> > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
> > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
> > > Sri Swami Prabhupada
> > >
> > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
> > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
> > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
> > > Swami Vivekananda
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
> > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
> > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
> > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
> > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
> > > and negative, undesirable influences that are
> > > opposed to spiritual development, yet
> > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
> > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
> > > Sri Ramanuja
> > >
> > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
> > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
> > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
> > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
> > >
> > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
> > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
> > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
> > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
> > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
> > > who meditate on the Gita will
> > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
> > > Mahatma Gandhiji
> > >
> > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
> > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
> > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
> > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
> > > Adi Sankara
> > >
> > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
> > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
> > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
> > > Swami Vivekananda
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
> > > His devotee Arjuna."
> > > Paramahansa Yogananda
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
> > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
> > > which is manifested by actions."
> > > Dr. Albert Schweizer
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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#15816 From: medit8ionsociety
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2007 8:33 pm
Subject: Re: [Meditation Society of America] The Best Book on Meditation
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sean tremblay <bethjams9@...> wrote:
>
> It's been a while since I have read it, But I started browsing
through it again since it sits on my shelf and is a part of my wife's
required reading for her yoga training.  I would have to agree with
Gwyn that it seems at least on surface to be a work more concerned
with behavior than spirituality or meditation ...

snip below

The deal here is that many translations are very
hard for Americans to "get". That's one main reason
why I point to Swami Satchidananda's translation. His
Americanized English is pretty clear. One aspect of this
"war story" is that it can be seen to be pointing to the
enemy that is within our mind...greed, hate, anger,
jealousy, etc and that's what we really need to fight.
Raja Yoga is the Yoga of Meditation and it has 8 steps.
Here's the Wikipedia take on them.
The eight limbs of Ashtanga (Raja) Yoga are:

     * Yama - Code of conduct - self-restraint
     * Niyama - religious observances - commitments
       to practice, such as study and devotion
     * &#256;sana - integration of mind and body
       through physical activity
     * Pranayama - regulation of breath leading
       to integration of mind and body
     * Pratyahara - abstraction of the senses,
       withdrawal of the senses of perception from their objects
     * Dharana - concentration, one-pointedness of mind
     * Dhyana - meditation (quiet activity that
       leads to samadhi)
     * Samadhi - the quiet state of blissful
       awareness, superconscious state

As you can see, meditation has 6 steps before it can
take place. Even just being able to concentrate will
not happen without self-restraint, study, control of
the mind and senses, etc. So if seen as a course in
getting enough self control to meditate,the Gita is
quite a guidebook.Everyone has something that is the
main way that they become distracted when meditating.
For some it can be their emotions, others their bodily
reactivity, and many their mind chatter. That's the war
that we need to wage. And seeing Krishna as the Divine
identity within us and Arjuna as our "normal" mind/ego,
the Gita and its directions on how life should be faced
will well take us to where we must be for meditation to
flow us into Samadhi.
And in any event, it's a bit better than any Rambo movie
if war stories are your thing.
Peace and blessings,
Bob


but I didn't get down to the gnats ass of it.  When I first read it I
think I was looking at it from a historical or anthropological view a
curiosity such as reading the Epic of Gilgamesh or the Icelandic
chronicles and I considered it interesting from that point.  As an
American and as a bit of an Anarchist in spirit I found the concepts
of total abandonment of self to one duty or station in life to be a
hard pill to swallow especial;y since I am a strong believer in the
individuals choice for "Good" works especially when it come to making
the choice for or against WAR, Violence, Killing ect...Or how we
define the way in which we operate in this world IE what our
>  calling is and how we choose to fulfill it. So when Krishna and
Arjuna are poised and ready at the battle field and Arjuna expresses
his doubt I can't help but think of Pakistan and India poised on the
border of Kashmir both parties brandishing the Nuke option One side
believing in Karmic predestination The other  in Gods righteous fury
and quite frankly that scares the Bjesus outta me.  I might be reading
it wrong but as a piece of literature I still enjoyed as a portal into
the mind of an ancient
>    culture
>
> medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>           --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Gwyn
Plaine"
> <gplaine@> wrote:
> >
> > So, the Gita?
> >
> Quite possibly the Gita is "best" of the best
> (along with The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali).
> My favorite translation and commentary
> will be found in this version:
> The Living Gita; The Complete Bhagavad Gita
> Author: Sri Swami Satchidananda
> Many other "Best" books can be found on our
> Suggested Reading list:
> http://www.meditationsociety.com/reading.html
> Also, one of the best recent NonDuality books is:
> Essential Writings on Nonduality
> ONE
> Edited by Jerry Katz
> and I would include one of the truly classic
> treasures to be:
> I AM THAT,
> Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
>
> But...I really think that there is no book
> that can do as much for your understanding of
> meditation and help your evolution in
> consciousness as actually meditating.
> Peace and blessings,
> Bob
>
> > On Dec 7, 2007 2:54 PM, medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > One of the most common emails the
> > > Meditation Society of America gets
> > > asks for advice on which books are
> > > the best dealing with meditation.
> > > We had several this week and also
> > > received an email from the Divya
> > > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
> > > one answer to this question. We'll
> > > let these quotes speak for themselves:
> > >
> > > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
> > > reflace about how God created this
> > > universe everything else seems so superfluous."
> > > Albert Einstein
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
> > > dedicate body, mind and soul
> > > to pure duty and not to become mental
> > > voluptuaries at the mercy of
> > > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
> > > Mahatma Gandhiji
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
> > > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
> > > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
> > > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
> > > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
> > > India but to all of humanity."
> > > Aldous Huxley
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
> > > human race a living creation rather than a book,
> > > with a new message for every age and a
> > > new meaning for every civilization."
> > > Sri Aurobindo
> > >
> > > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
> > > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
> > > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
> > > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
> > > Henry David Thoreau
> > >
> > > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
> > > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
> > > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
> > > Herman Hesse
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
> > > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
> > > a call of action to meet the obligations and
> > > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
> > > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
> > > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
> > >
> > > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
> > > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
> > > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
> > > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
> > > old intelligence which in another age and climate
> > > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
> > > questions which exercise us."
> > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
> > > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
> > > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
> > > montheistic deity and at the same time the
> > > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
> > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
> > >
> > > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
> > > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
> > > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
> > > Rudolph Steiner
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
> > > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
> > > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
> > > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
> > > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
> > > think that they are advised to engage in
> > > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
> > > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
> > > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
> > > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
> > > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
> > > high priority. If we continue and patiently
> > > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
> > > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
> > > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
> > > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
> > > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
> > > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
> > > Sri Swami Prabhupada
> > >
> > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
> > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
> > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
> > > Swami Vivekananda
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
> > > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
> > > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
> > > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
> > > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
> > > and negative, undesirable influences that are
> > > opposed to spiritual development, yet
> > > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
> > > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
> > > Sri Ramanuja
> > >
> > > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
> > > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
> > > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
> > > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
> > >
> > > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
> > > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
> > > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
> > > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
> > > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
> > > who meditate on the Gita will
> > > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
> > > Mahatma Gandhiji
> > >
> > > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
> > > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
> > > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
> > > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
> > > Adi Sankara
> > >
> > > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
> > > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
> > > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
> > > Swami Vivekananda
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
> > > His devotee Arjuna."
> > > Paramahansa Yogananda
> > >
> > > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
> > > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
> > > which is manifested by actions."
> > > Dr. Albert Schweizer
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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#15815 From: sean tremblay <bethjams9@...>
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2007 1:20 pm
Subject: Re: [Meditation Society of America] The Best Book on Meditation
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It's been a while since I have read it, But I started browsing through it again since it sits on my shelf and is a part of my wife's required reading for her yoga training.  I would have to agree with Gwyn that it seems at least on surface to be a work more concerned with behavior than spirituality or meditation but I didn't get down to the gnats ass of it.  When I first read it I think I was looking at it from a historical or anthropological view a curiosity such as reading the Epic of Gilgamesh or the Icelandic chronicles and I considered it interesting from that point.  As an American and as a bit of an Anarchist in spirit I found the concepts of total abandonment of self to one duty or station in life to be a hard pill to swallow especial;y since I am a strong believer in the individuals choice for "Good" works especially when it come to making the choice for or against WAR, Violence, Killing ect...Or how we define the way in which we operate in this world IE what our calling is and how we choose to fulfill it. So when Krishna and Arjuna are poised and ready at the battle field and Arjuna expresses his doubt I can't help but think of Pakistan and India poised on the border of Kashmir both parties brandishing the Nuke option One side believing in Karmic predestination The other  in Gods righteous fury and quite frankly that scares the Bjesus outta me.  I might be reading it wrong but as a piece of literature I still enjoyed as a portal into the mind of an ancient
 culture

medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Gwyn Plaine"
<gplaine@...> wrote:
>
> So, the Gita?
>
Quite possibly the Gita is "best" of the best
(along with The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali).
My favorite translation and commentary
will be found in this version:
The Living Gita; The Complete Bhagavad Gita
Author: Sri Swami Satchidananda
Many other "Best" books can be found on our
Suggested Reading list:
http://www.meditationsociety.com/reading.html
Also, one of the best recent NonDuality books is:
Essential Writings on Nonduality
ONE
Edited by Jerry Katz
and I would include one of the truly classic
treasures to be:
I AM THAT,
Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

But...I really think that there is no book
that can do as much for your understanding of
meditation and help your evolution in
consciousness as actually meditating.
Peace and blessings,
Bob

> On Dec 7, 2007 2:54 PM, medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
>
> > One of the most common emails the
> > Meditation Society of America gets
> > asks for advice on which books are
> > the best dealing with meditation.
> > We had several this week and also
> > received an email from the Divya
> > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
> > one answer to this question. We'll
> > let these quotes speak for themselves:
> >
> > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
> > reflace about how God created this
> > universe everything else seems so superfluous."
> > Albert Einstein
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
> > dedicate body, mind and soul
> > to pure duty and not to become mental
> > voluptuaries at the mercy of
> > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
> > Mahatma Gandhiji
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
> > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
> > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
> > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
> > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
> > India but to all of humanity."
> > Aldous Huxley
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
> > human race a living creation rather than a book,
> > with a new message for every age and a
> > new meaning for every civilization."
> > Sri Aurobindo
> >
> > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
> > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
> > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
> > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
> > Henry David Thoreau
> >
> > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
> > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
> > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
> > Herman Hesse
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
> > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
> > a call of action to meet the obligations and
> > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
> > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
> > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
> >
> > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
> > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
> > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
> > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
> > old intelligence which in another age and climate
> > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
> > questions which exercise us."
> > Ralph Waldo Emerson
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
> > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
> > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
> > montheistic deity and at the same time the
> > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
> > Ralph Waldo Emerson
> >
> > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
> > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
> > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
> > Rudolph Steiner
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
> > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
> > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
> > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
> > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
> > think that they are advised to engage in
> > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
> > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
> > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
> > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
> > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
> > high priority. If we continue and patiently
> > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
> > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
> > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
> > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
> > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
> > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
> > Sri Swami Prabhupada
> >
> > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
> > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
> > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
> > Swami Vivekananda
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
> > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
> > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
> > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
> > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
> > and negative, undesirable influences that are
> > opposed to spiritual development, yet
> > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
> > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
> > Sri Ramanuja
> >
> > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
> > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
> > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
> > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
> >
> > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
> > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
> > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
> > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
> > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
> > who meditate on the Gita will
> > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
> > Mahatma Gandhiji
> >
> > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
> > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
> > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
> > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
> > Adi Sankara
> >
> > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
> > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
> > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
> > Swami Vivekananda
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
> > His devotee Arjuna."
> > Paramahansa Yogananda
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
> > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
> > which is manifested by actions."
> > Dr. Albert Schweizer
> >
> >
> >
>



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#15814 From: Silent Thunder <pacificmonk@...>
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2007 5:11 am
Subject: Re: [Meditation Society of America] The Best Book Ever on Meditation
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sean tremblay <bethjams9@...> wrote:

It's still a good book Duuuuuude


Yeah well I never said it wasn't. Personally, I've never read it but I know the overall plot about Krishna being a prince and going to war and all.

To me, self-inquiry or "inner exploration" is all that matters. And I consider it the best form of meditation ever. Of course, we're all unique so we can't have a one-size-fits-all technique we all can use. What I'd suggest to someone just starting out is to try out different methods and see which one suits them best.

I know little about meditation guides but the 108 techniques found on the meditationsociety website were really helpful.

Apart from this, I've found Conversations With God (CWG) by Neale Donald Walsch a great read. For people who don't know, it's a sort of newage, god-is-like-the-feller-next-door, live-as-you-please treatise but very insightful. What Rhonda Byrne goes on and on about in "The Secret" was summarized in CWG way before Byrne wrote her stuff. Of course it's quite an old concept but what I'm saying is CWG has a LOT of great, eye-opening stuff for all you people who aren't too spiritually evolved (which is everyone but myself ;) j/k).

Also worth mention is the immortal Zen classic, The Gateless Gate. I read it a long time ago and I still can't get my head around it. That isn't necessarily a bad thing though. It's a really intriguing piece of work and is freely available on the net.

But if you want the best piece of spiritual work ever, go watch South Park :)



Gwyn Plaine <gplaine@...> wrote:

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Kick ass! :)


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#15813 From: "Gwyn Plaine" <gplaine@...>
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2007 1:39 am
Subject: Re: [Meditation Society of America] The Best Book on Meditation
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The Gita, even in sanskrit, isn't the most accessible book on meditative method, although it is one of the most comprehensive treatises on 'good' living...a form of meta text from which most other religions seem to be a dim, overly complex, reflection... I quite like The Gita As It Was: Rediscovering the Original Bhagavadgita by Phulgenda Sinha since it removes a lot of the late Bhraman accretions. Deepak Chopra's 'Sacred Verses, Healing Sounds' audio book is a very good 'intro' to the Gita... but to plunge a newbie to mysticism into the Gita is a bit like throwing a babe into a shark pool... it's not that friendly or useful...  one to avoid is Bhagavad-Gita As It Is: by AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, IMO since the text is swamped by (heavily biased) commentary. Yogananda's two volume commentary is good, but Yoganada was a poet in his own right... and you feel that he had less of an axe to grind than Prabhupada, being more concerned with the original intent of the late Gita...

On Dec 8, 2007 1:27 AM, medit8ionsociety < no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Gwyn Plaine"
<gplaine@...> wrote:
>
> So, the Gita?
>
Quite possibly the Gita is "best" of the best
(along with The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali).
My favorite translation and commentary
will be found in this version:
The Living Gita; The Complete Bhagavad Gita
Author: Sri Swami Satchidananda
Many other "Best" books can be found on our
Suggested Reading list:
http://www.meditationsociety.com/reading.html
Also, one of the best recent NonDuality books is:
Essential Writings on Nonduality
ONE
Edited by Jerry Katz
and I would include one of the truly classic
treasures to be:
I AM THAT,
Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

But...I really think that there is no book
that can do as much for your understanding of
meditation and help your evolution in
consciousness as actually meditating.
Peace and blessings,
Bob



> On Dec 7, 2007 2:54 PM, medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
>
> > One of the most common emails the
> > Meditation Society of America gets
> > asks for advice on which books are
> > the best dealing with meditation.
> > We had several this week and also
> > received an email from the Divya
> > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
> > one answer to this question. We'll
> > let these quotes speak for themselves:
> >
> > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
> > reflace about how God created this
> > universe everything else seems so superfluous."
> > Albert Einstein
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
> > dedicate body, mind and soul
> > to pure duty and not to become mental
> > voluptuaries at the mercy of
> > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
> > Mahatma Gandhiji
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
> > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
> > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
> > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
> > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
> > India but to all of humanity."
> > Aldous Huxley
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
> > human race a living creation rather than a book,
> > with a new message for every age and a
> > new meaning for every civilization."
> > Sri Aurobindo
> >
> > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
> > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
> > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
> > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
> > Henry David Thoreau
> >
> > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
> > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
> > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
> > Herman Hesse
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
> > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
> > a call of action to meet the obligations and
> > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
> > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
> > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
> >
> > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
> > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
> > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
> > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
> > old intelligence which in another age and climate
> > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
> > questions which exercise us."
> > Ralph Waldo Emerson
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
> > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
> > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
> > montheistic deity and at the same time the
> > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
> > Ralph Waldo Emerson
> >
> > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
> > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
> > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
> > Rudolph Steiner
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
> > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
> > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
> > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
> > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
> > think that they are advised to engage in
> > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
> > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
> > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
> > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
> > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
> > high priority. If we continue and patiently
> > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
> > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
> > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
> > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
> > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
> > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
> > Sri Swami Prabhupada
> >
> > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
> > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
> > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
> > Swami Vivekananda
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
> > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
> > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
> > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
> > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
> > and negative, undesirable influences that are
> > opposed to spiritual development, yet
> > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
> > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
> > Sri Ramanuja
> >
> > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
> > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
> > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
> > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
> >
> > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
> > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
> > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
> > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
> > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
> > who meditate on the Gita will
> > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
> > Mahatma Gandhiji
> >
> > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
> > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
> > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
> > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
> > Adi Sankara
> >
> > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
> > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
> > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
> > Swami Vivekananda
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
> > His devotee Arjuna."
> > Paramahansa Yogananda
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
> > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
> > which is manifested by actions."
> > Dr. Albert Schweizer
> >
> >
> >
>



#15812 From: medit8ionsociety
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2007 1:27 am
Subject: Re: [Meditation Society of America] The Best Book on Meditation
medit8ionsoc...
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--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Gwyn Plaine"
<gplaine@...> wrote:
>
> So, the Gita?
>
Quite possibly the Gita is "best" of the best
(along with The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali).
My favorite translation and commentary
will be found in this version:
The Living Gita; The Complete Bhagavad Gita
Author: Sri Swami Satchidananda
Many other "Best" books can be found on our
Suggested Reading list:
http://www.meditationsociety.com/reading.html
Also, one of the best recent NonDuality books is:
Essential Writings on Nonduality
ONE
Edited by Jerry Katz
and I would include one of the truly classic
treasures to be:
I AM THAT,
Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

But...I really think that there is no book
that can do as much for your understanding of
meditation and help your evolution in
consciousness as actually meditating.
Peace and blessings,
Bob

> On Dec 7, 2007 2:54 PM, medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
>
> >   One of the most common emails the
> > Meditation Society of America gets
> > asks for advice on which books are
> > the best dealing with meditation.
> > We had several this week and also
> > received an email from the Divya
> > Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
> > one answer to this question. We'll
> > let these quotes speak for themselves:
> >
> > "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
> > reflace about how God created this
> > universe everything else seems so superfluous."
> > Albert Einstein
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
> > dedicate body, mind and soul
> > to pure duty and not to become mental
> > voluptuaries at the mercy of
> > random desires and undisciplined impulses."
> > Mahatma Gandhiji
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
> > of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
> > It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
> > summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
> > hence its enduring value is subject not only to
> > India but to all of humanity."
> > Aldous Huxley
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
> > human race a living creation rather than a book,
> > with a new message for every age and a
> > new meaning for every civilization."
> > Sri Aurobindo
> >
> > "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
> > stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
> > Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
> > world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
> > Henry David Thoreau
> >
> > "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
> > beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
> > enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
> > Herman Hesse
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
> > spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
> > a call of action to meet the obligations and
> > duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
> > nature and grander purpose of the universe."
> > Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
> >
> > "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
> > It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
> > spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
> > but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
> > old intelligence which in another age and climate
> > had pondered and thus disposed of the same
> > questions which exercise us."
> > Ralph Waldo Emerson
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
> > and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
> > has all the attributes of the full-fledged
> > montheistic deity and at the same time the
> > attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
> > Ralph Waldo Emerson
> >
> > "In order to approach a creation as sublime
> > as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
> > it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
> > Rudolph Steiner
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
> > Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
> > fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
> > which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
> > of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
> > think that they are advised to engage in
> > warfare. When the second chapter has been read
> > it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
> > the soul is the ultimate goal to be
> > attained. On studying the third chapter it is
> > apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
> > high priority. If we continue and patiently
> > take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
> > try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
> > we can see that the ultimate conclusion
> > is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
> > of religion which we possess and fully surrender
> > directly unto the Supreme Lord."
> > Sri Swami Prabhupada
> >
> > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
> > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
> > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
> > Swami Vivekananda
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
> > reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
> > essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
> > Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
> > and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
> > and negative, undesirable influences that are
> > opposed to spiritual development, yet
> > simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
> > to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
> > Sri Ramanuja
> >
> > "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
> > or external, that the Gita has not made clear
> > and enabled me to deal with or understand."
> > Swami Nirmalananda Giri
> >
> > "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
> > stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
> > hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
> > find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
> > to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
> > who meditate on the Gita will
> > derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
> > Mahatma Gandhiji
> >
> > "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
> > the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
> > Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
> > of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
> > Adi Sankara
> >
> > "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
> > actions without any fruitive desires is taught
> > by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
> > Swami Vivekananda
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
> > His devotee Arjuna."
> > Paramahansa Yogananda
> >
> > "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
> > the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
> > which is manifested by actions."
> > Dr. Albert Schweizer
> >
> >
> >
>

#15811 From: "Gwyn Plaine" <gplaine@...>
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 11:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Meditation Society of America] The Best Book on Meditation
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So, the Gita?

On Dec 7, 2007 2:54 PM, medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

One of the most common emails the
Meditation Society of America gets
asks for advice on which books are
the best dealing with meditation.
We had several this week and also
received an email from the Divya
Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
one answer to this question. We'll
let these quotes speak for themselves:

"When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
reflace about how God created this
universe everything else seems so superfluous."
Albert Einstein

"The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
dedicate body, mind and soul
to pure duty and not to become mental
voluptuaries at the mercy of
random desires and undisciplined impulses."
Mahatma Gandhiji

"The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
hence its enduring value is subject not only to
India but to all of humanity."
Aldous Huxley

"The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
human race a living creation rather than a book,
with a new message for every age and a
new meaning for every civilization."
Sri Aurobindo

"In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
Henry David Thoreau

"The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
Herman Hesse

"The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
a call of action to meet the obligations and
duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
nature and grander purpose of the universe."
Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru

"I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
old intelligence which in another age and climate
had pondered and thus disposed of the same
questions which exercise us."
Ralph Waldo Emerson

"The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
has all the attributes of the full-fledged
montheistic deity and at the same time the
attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
Ralph Waldo Emerson

"In order to approach a creation as sublime
as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
Rudolph Steiner

"The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
think that they are advised to engage in
warfare. When the second chapter has been read
it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
the soul is the ultimate goal to be
attained. On studying the third chapter it is
apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
high priority. If we continue and patiently
take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
we can see that the ultimate conclusion
is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
of religion which we possess and fully surrender
directly unto the Supreme Lord."
Sri Swami Prabhupada

"The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
actions without any fruitive desires is taught
by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
Swami Vivekananda

"The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
and negative, undesirable influences that are
opposed to spiritual development, yet
simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
Sri Ramanuja

"Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
or external, that the Gita has not made clear
and enabled me to deal with or understand."
Swami Nirmalananda Giri

"When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
who meditate on the Gita will
derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
Mahatma Gandhiji

"From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
Adi Sankara

"The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
actions without any fruitive desires is taught
by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
Swami Vivekananda

"The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
His devotee Arjuna."
Paramahansa Yogananda

"The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
which is manifested by actions."
Dr. Albert Schweizer



#15810 From: medit8ionsociety
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 9:38 pm
Subject: Peace Everyday
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Dear Meditation Society of America,

The Peace Every Day Initiative is working
to bring together as many meditation groups
as possible to create peace by being peace.
Seeing the meditation traditions united can
help deepen each individual, and transform
the global consciousness.  We have a site
with all the explanations about participating daily -
www.PeaceEveryDay.org.  The practice is
through your style/tradition of meditation,
with a feeling-based oneness experience linking
and permeating the planet.  The 140 who have
endorsed are linked under "sponsors".  Each
endorsing sponsor commits to the daily peace
meditating, and agrees to spread the practice
to a wide, critical mass network.  I hope to
hear from you soon about being an endorser of
the Peace Every Day Initiative.  Thank you.

Best,

Michael Bedar
Tree of Life Rejuvenation Center
Assistant to Gabriel Cousens, M.D., M.D.(H),
Founder of the Peace Every Day Initiative
www.PeaceEveryDay.org
Founded at the Tree of Life Rejuvenation Center,
Patagonia, AZ
web: www.treeoflife.nu
email: michael@...
phone: 520-394-2520 x209
fax: 415-598-2409

#15809 From: sean tremblay <bethjams9@...>
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 8:01 pm
Subject: Re: [Meditation Society of America] The Best Book Ever on Meditation
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It's still a good book Duuuuuude

Silent Thunder <pacificmonk@...> wrote:
Dudes! I can find half a million such quotes for every other religious text ever written... quotes can't make one piece of scripture better than another...

sean tremblay <bethjams9@yahoo.com> wrote:
And it's a kick ass story filled with action adventure and romance

medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
One of the most common emails the
Meditation Society of America gets
asks for advice on which books are
the best dealing with meditation.
We had several this week and also
received an email from the Divya
Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
one answer to this question. We'll
let these quotes speak for themselves:

"When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and reflect about how God created this
universe everything else seems so superfluous." - Albert Einstein

"The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to dedicate body, mind and soul
to pure duty and not to become mental voluptuaries at the mercy of
random desires and undisciplined impulses." -Mahatma Gandhiji

"The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement of spiritual
evolution of endowing value to mankind. It is one of the most clear
and comprehensive summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
hence its enduring value is subject not only to India but to all of
humanity." - Aldous Huxley

"The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the human race a living
creation rather than a book, with a new message for every age and a
new meaning for every civilization." - Sri Aurobindo

"In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous and cosmogonal
philosophy of the Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
Henry David Thoreau

"The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly beautiful revelation of
life's wisdom which enables philosophy to blossom into religion." -
Herman Hesse

"The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the spiritual foundation of
human existence. It is a call of action to meet the obligations and
duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual nature and grander
purpose of the universe."
Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru

"I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita. It was the first of
books; it was as if an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old intelligence which
in another age and climate had pondered and thus disposed of the same
questions which exercise us."
Ralph Waldo Emerson

"The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought and in its philosophical
teachings Krishna has all the attributes of the full-fledged
montheistic deity and at the same time the attributes of the
Upanisadic absolute."
Ralph Waldo Emerson

"In order to approach a creation as sublime as the Bhagavad-Gita with
full understanding it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
Rudolph Steiner

"The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the Vaisnava philosophy and
the Srimad Bhagavatam fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal of the first chapter of
Bhagavad-Gita one may think that they are advised to engage in
warfare. When the second chapter has been read it can be clearly
understood that knowledge and the soul is the ultimate goal to be
attained. On studying the third chapter it is apparent that acts of
righteousness are also of high priority. If we continue and patiently
take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and try to ascertain the
truth of its closing chapter we can see that the ultimate conclusion
is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas of religion which we
possess and fully surrender directly unto the Supreme Lord."
Sri Swami Prabhupada

"The secret of karma yoga which is to perform actions without any
fruitive desires is taught by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
Swami Vivekananda

"The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to reveal the science of
devotion to God which is the essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending and incarnating
is relieve the world of any demoniac and negative, undesirable
influences that are opposed to spiritual development, yet
simultaneously it is His incomparable intention to be perpetually
within reach of all humanity."
Sri Ramanuja

"Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal or external, that the
Gita has not made clear and enabled me to deal with or understand." -
Swami Nirmalananda Giri

"When doubts haunt me, when disappointments stare me in the face, and
I see not one ray of hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin to smile in the
midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those who meditate on the Gita will
derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
Mahatma Gandhiji

"From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all the goals of human
existence become fulfilled. Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
Adi Sankara

"The secret of karma yoga which is to perform actions without any
fruitive desires is taught by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
Swami Vivekananda

"The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to His devotee Arjuna."
Paramahansa Yogananda

"The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on the spirit of mankind
by its devotion to God which is manifested by actions."
Dr. Albert Schweizer



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#15808 From: medit8ionsociety
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 6:24 pm
Subject: Re: [Meditation Society of America] The Best Book Ever on Meditation
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--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, Silent Thunder
<pacificmonk@...> wrote:
>
> Dudes! I can find half a million such quotes for every other
religious text ever written... quotes can't make one piece of
scripture better than another...
>
Yo Wolf,
You're 100% right. And saying the Gita is the best
in a way is way off base. Each of us may react and act
differently in relation to what we ingest. I love
the Bhagavad-Gita and also the Bible, Koran, etc.
But, few Americans have even heard about the Gita
and I'm sure many could benefit from its wisdom.
So with the synchronistic appearance of the emails
and the newsletter, here it has been mentioned and
labeled as the "Best". And for those who gain
greater peace from its knowledge, it may well be
so. But for many, it may not. I'm wondering what
others think is the very best book to recommend
to others, particularly those just starting to
look at meditation/consciousness evolution/etc?
Peace and blessings,
Bob

> sean tremblay <bethjams9@...> wrote:
And it's a kick ass story filled with action adventure and romance
>
> medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>     One of the most common emails the
> Meditation Society of America gets
> asks for advice on which books are
> the best dealing with meditation.
> We had several this week and also
> received an email from the Divya
> Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
> one answer to this question. We'll
> let these quotes speak for themselves:
>
> "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and reflect about how God created this
> universe everything  else seems so superfluous." - Albert Einstein
>
> "The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to dedicate body, mind and soul
> to pure duty and not to become mental voluptuaries at the mercy of
> random desires and undisciplined impulses." -Mahatma Gandhiji
>
> "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement of spiritual
> evolution of endowing value to mankind. It is one of the most clear
> and comprehensive summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
> hence its enduring value is subject not only to India but to all of
> humanity." - Aldous Huxley
>
> "The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the human race a living
> creation rather than a book, with a new message for every age and a
> new meaning for every civilization." - Sri Aurobindo
>
> "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous and cosmogonal
> philosophy of the Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
> world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
> Henry David Thoreau
>
> "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly beautiful revelation of
> life's wisdom which enables philosophy to blossom into religion." -
> Herman Hesse
>
> "The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the spiritual foundation of
> human existence. It is a call of action to meet the obligations and
> duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual nature and grander
> purpose of the universe."
> Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru
>
> "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita. It was the first of
> books; it was as if an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
> but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old intelligence which
> in another age and climate had pondered and thus disposed of the same
> questions which exercise us."
> Ralph Waldo Emerson
>
> "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought and in its philosophical
> teachings Krishna has all the attributes of the full-fledged
> montheistic deity and at  the same time the attributes of the
> Upanisadic absolute."
> Ralph Waldo Emerson
>
> "In order to approach a creation as sublime as the Bhagavad-Gita with
> full understanding it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
> Rudolph Steiner
>
> "The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the Vaisnava philosophy and
> the Srimad Bhagavatam fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
> which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal of the first chapter of
> Bhagavad-Gita one may think that they are advised to engage in
> warfare. When the second chapter has been read it can be clearly
> understood that knowledge and the soul is the ultimate goal to be
> attained. On studying the third chapter it is apparent that acts of
> righteousness are also of high priority. If we continue and patiently
> take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and try to ascertain the
> truth of its closing chapter we can see that the ultimate conclusion
> is to relinquish all  the conceptualized ideas of religion which we
> possess and fully surrender directly unto the Supreme Lord."
> Sri Swami Prabhupada
>
> "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform actions without any
> fruitive desires is taught by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
> Swami Vivekananda
>
> "The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to reveal the science of
> devotion to God which is the essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
> Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending and incarnating
> is relieve the world of any demoniac and negative, undesirable
> influences that are opposed to spiritual development, yet
> simultaneously it is His incomparable intention to be perpetually
> within reach of all humanity."
> Sri Ramanuja
>
> "Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal or external, that the
> Gita has not made clear and enabled me to deal with or understand." -
> Swami Nirmalananda Giri
>
> "When doubts haunt me, when  disappointments stare me in the face, and
> I see not one ray of hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
> find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin to smile in the
> midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those who meditate on the Gita will
> derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
> Mahatma Gandhiji
>
> "From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all the goals of human
> existence become fulfilled. Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
> of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
> Adi Sankara
>
> "The secret of karma yoga which is to perform actions without any
> fruitive desires is taught by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
> Swami Vivekananda
>
> "The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to His devotee Arjuna."
> Paramahansa Yogananda
>
> "The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on the spirit of mankind
> by its devotion to God which is manifested by actions."
> Dr. Albert Schweizer
>
>
>
>
>
>
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#15807 From: Silent Thunder <pacificmonk@...>
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 4:31 pm
Subject: Re: [Meditation Society of America] The Best Book Ever on Meditation
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Dudes! I can find half a million such quotes for every other religious text ever written... quotes can't make one piece of scripture better than another...

sean tremblay <bethjams9@...> wrote:
And it's a kick ass story filled with action adventure and romance

medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
One of the most common emails the
Meditation Society of America gets
asks for advice on which books are
the best dealing with meditation.
We had several this week and also
received an email from the Divya
Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
one answer to this question. We'll
let these quotes speak for themselves:

"When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and reflect about how God created this
universe everything else seems so superfluous." - Albert Einstein

"The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to dedicate body, mind and soul
to pure duty and not to become mental voluptuaries at the mercy of
random desires and undisciplined impulses." -Mahatma Gandhiji

"The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement of spiritual
evolution of endowing value to mankind. It is one of the most clear
and comprehensive summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
hence its enduring value is subject not only to India but to all of
humanity." - Aldous Huxley

"The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the human race a living
creation rather than a book, with a new message for every age and a
new meaning for every civilization." - Sri Aurobindo

"In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous and cosmogonal
philosophy of the Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
Henry David Thoreau

"The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly beautiful revelation of
life's wisdom which enables philosophy to blossom into religion." -
Herman Hesse

"The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the spiritual foundation of
human existence. It is a call of action to meet the obligations and
duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual nature and grander
purpose of the universe."
Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru

"I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita. It was the first of
books; it was as if an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old intelligence which
in another age and climate had pondered and thus disposed of the same
questions which exercise us."
Ralph Waldo Emerson

"The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought and in its philosophical
teachings Krishna has all the attributes of the full-fledged
montheistic deity and at the same time the attributes of the
Upanisadic absolute."
Ralph Waldo Emerson

"In order to approach a creation as sublime as the Bhagavad-Gita with
full understanding it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
Rudolph Steiner

"The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the Vaisnava philosophy and
the Srimad Bhagavatam fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal of the first chapter of
Bhagavad-Gita one may think that they are advised to engage in
warfare. When the second chapter has been read it can be clearly
understood that knowledge and the soul is the ultimate goal to be
attained. On studying the third chapter it is apparent that acts of
righteousness are also of high priority. If we continue and patiently
take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and try to ascertain the
truth of its closing chapter we can see that the ultimate conclusion
is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas of religion which we
possess and fully surrender directly unto the Supreme Lord."
Sri Swami Prabhupada

"The secret of karma yoga which is to perform actions without any
fruitive desires is taught by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
Swami Vivekananda

"The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to reveal the science of
devotion to God which is the essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending and incarnating
is relieve the world of any demoniac and negative, undesirable
influences that are opposed to spiritual development, yet
simultaneously it is His incomparable intention to be perpetually
within reach of all humanity."
Sri Ramanuja

"Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal or external, that the
Gita has not made clear and enabled me to deal with or understand." -
Swami Nirmalananda Giri

"When doubts haunt me, when disappointments stare me in the face, and
I see not one ray of hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin to smile in the
midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those who meditate on the Gita will
derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
Mahatma Gandhiji

"From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all the goals of human
existence become fulfilled. Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
Adi Sankara

"The secret of karma yoga which is to perform actions without any
fruitive desires is taught by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
Swami Vivekananda

"The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to His devotee Arjuna."
Paramahansa Yogananda

"The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on the spirit of mankind
by its devotion to God which is manifested by actions."
Dr. Albert Schweizer



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#15806 From: sean tremblay <bethjams9@...>
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 3:02 pm
Subject: Re: [Meditation Society of America] The Best Book Ever on Meditation
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And it's a kick ass story filled with action adventure and romance

medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
One of the most common emails the
Meditation Society of America gets
asks for advice on which books are
the best dealing with meditation.
We had several this week and also
received an email from the Divya
Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
one answer to this question. We'll
let these quotes speak for themselves:

"When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and reflect about how God created this
universe everything else seems so superfluous." - Albert Einstein

"The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to dedicate body, mind and soul
to pure duty and not to become mental voluptuaries at the mercy of
random desires and undisciplined impulses." -Mahatma Gandhiji

"The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement of spiritual
evolution of endowing value to mankind. It is one of the most clear
and comprehensive summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
hence its enduring value is subject not only to India but to all of
humanity." - Aldous Huxley

"The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the human race a living
creation rather than a book, with a new message for every age and a
new meaning for every civilization." - Sri Aurobindo

"In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous and cosmogonal
philosophy of the Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
Henry David Thoreau

"The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly beautiful revelation of
life's wisdom which enables philosophy to blossom into religion." -
Herman Hesse

"The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the spiritual foundation of
human existence. It is a call of action to meet the obligations and
duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual nature and grander
purpose of the universe."
Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru

"I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita. It was the first of
books; it was as if an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old intelligence which
in another age and climate had pondered and thus disposed of the same
questions which exercise us."
Ralph Waldo Emerson

"The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought and in its philosophical
teachings Krishna has all the attributes of the full-fledged
montheistic deity and at the same time the attributes of the
Upanisadic absolute."
Ralph Waldo Emerson

"In order to approach a creation as sublime as the Bhagavad-Gita with
full understanding it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
Rudolph Steiner

"The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the Vaisnava philosophy and
the Srimad Bhagavatam fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal of the first chapter of
Bhagavad-Gita one may think that they are advised to engage in
warfare. When the second chapter has been read it can be clearly
understood that knowledge and the soul is the ultimate goal to be
attained. On studying the third chapter it is apparent that acts of
righteousness are also of high priority. If we continue and patiently
take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and try to ascertain the
truth of its closing chapter we can see that the ultimate conclusion
is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas of religion which we
possess and fully surrender directly unto the Supreme Lord."
Sri Swami Prabhupada

"The secret of karma yoga which is to perform actions without any
fruitive desires is taught by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
Swami Vivekananda

"The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to reveal the science of
devotion to God which is the essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending and incarnating
is relieve the world of any demoniac and negative, undesirable
influences that are opposed to spiritual development, yet
simultaneously it is His incomparable intention to be perpetually
within reach of all humanity."
Sri Ramanuja

"Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal or external, that the
Gita has not made clear and enabled me to deal with or understand." -
Swami Nirmalananda Giri

"When doubts haunt me, when disappointments stare me in the face, and
I see not one ray of hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin to smile in the
midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those who meditate on the Gita will
derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
Mahatma Gandhiji

"From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all the goals of human
existence become fulfilled. Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
Adi Sankara

"The secret of karma yoga which is to perform actions without any
fruitive desires is taught by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
Swami Vivekananda

"The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to His devotee Arjuna."
Paramahansa Yogananda

"The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on the spirit of mankind
by its devotion to God which is manifested by actions."
Dr. Albert Schweizer



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#15805 From: medit8ionsociety
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 2:54 pm
Subject: The Best Book on Meditation
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One of the most common emails the
Meditation Society of America gets
asks for advice on which books are
the best dealing with meditation.
We had several this week and also
received an email from the Divya
Jivan Newsletter that pointed to
one answer to this question. We'll
let these quotes speak for themselves:

"When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and
reflace about how God created this
universe everything else seems so superfluous."
Albert Einstein

"The Bhagavad-Gita calls on humanity to
dedicate body, mind and soul
to pure duty and not to become mental
voluptuaries at the mercy of
random desires and undisciplined impulses."
Mahatma Gandhiji

"The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement
of spiritualevolution of endowing value to mankind.
It is one of the most clear and comprehensive
summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed;
hence its enduring value is subject not only to
India but to all of humanity."
Aldous Huxley

"The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the
human race a living creation rather than a book,
with a new message for every age and a
new meaning for every civilization."
Sri Aurobindo

"In the morning I bathe my intellect in the
stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the
Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern
world and its literature seems puny and trivial."
Henry David Thoreau

"The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly
beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which
enables philosophy to blossom into religion."
Herman Hesse

"The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the
spiritual foundation of human existence. It is
a call of action to meet the obligations and
duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual
nature and grander purpose of the universe."
Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru

"I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita.
It was the first of books; it was as if an empire
spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an
old intelligence which in another age and climate
had pondered and thus disposed of the same
questions which exercise us."
Ralph Waldo Emerson

"The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought
and in its philosophical teachings Krishna
has all the attributes of the full-fledged
montheistic deity and at the same time the
attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
Ralph Waldo Emerson

"In order to approach a creation as sublime
as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding
it is necessary to attune our soul to it." -
Rudolph Steiner

"The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the
Vaisnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam
fully reveals the true import of this doctrine
which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal
of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may
think that they are advised to engage in
warfare. When the second chapter has been read
it can be clearly understood that knowledge and
the soul is the ultimate goal to be
attained. On studying the third chapter it is
apparent that acts of righteousness are also of
high priority. If we continue and patiently
take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and
try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter
we can see that the ultimate conclusion
is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas
of religion which we possess and fully surrender
directly unto the Supreme Lord."
Sri Swami Prabhupada

"The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
actions without any fruitive desires is taught
by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita."
Swami Vivekananda

"The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to
reveal the science of devotion to God which is the
essence of all spiritual knowledge. The
Supreme Lord Krishnas primary purpose for descending
and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac
and negative, undesirable influences that are
opposed to spiritual development, yet
simultaneously it is His incomparable intention
to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."
Sri Ramanuja

"Nothing has ever arisen in my life, internal
or external, that the Gita has not made clear
and enabled me to deal with or understand."
Swami Nirmalananda Giri

"When doubts haunt me, when disappointments
stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of
hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and
find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin
to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those
who meditate on the Gita will
derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
Mahatma Gandhiji

"From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all
the goals of human existence become fulfilled.
Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence
of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."
Adi Sankara

"The secret of karma yoga which is to perform
actions without any fruitive desires is taught
by Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita." -
Swami Vivekananda

"The Bhagavad-Gita is where God Himself talks to
His devotee Arjuna."
Paramahansa Yogananda

"The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on
the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God
which is manifested by actions."
Dr. Albert Schweizer

#15803 From: sean tremblay <bethjams9@...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2007 1:54 am
Subject: Re: [Meditation Society of America] Chimps Verses Humans
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It seems for evolutionary purposes chimps developed greater short term memory abilities, probably for survival linked to memorizing patterns quickly or changes in their environment that could produce an immediate threat, Humans however are more geared to abstract thinking allowing for better tool making and  more highly organized planning as a key to survival, so a chimp scans his environment and appropriate decisions, a human forecasts probability based on past experience and makes changes to his environment.

medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
I just saw a report on the ABC national news
about tests done on chimps where they were
given series of numbers and rewarded if they
could remember where they appeared on the
computer screen. They not only could do this,
but were far better at it than the humans that
were also tested. It was said that this may be
so because they cared more about their
peanut reward than the human test takers did.
But is this actually simply a demonstration
of how they can remain one pointed better than
we can. I'm wondering how experienced meditators
would do?
Here's the story:
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory?id=3944729



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#15802 From: medit8ionsociety
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2007 12:11 am
Subject: Chimps Verses Humans
medit8ionsoc...
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I just saw a report on the ABC national news
about tests done on chimps where they were
given series of numbers and rewarded if they
could remember where they appeared on the
computer screen. They not only could do this,
but were far better at it than the humans that
were also tested. It was said that this may be
so because they cared more about their
peanut reward than the human test takers did.
But is this actually simply a demonstration
of how they can remain one pointed better than
we can. I'm wondering how experienced meditators
would do?
Here's the story:
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory?id=3944729

#15801 From: medit8ionsociety
Date: Sun Dec 2, 2007 11:06 pm
Subject: Inner Witnessing and Ceasing Inner Chattering
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The greatest enemy to your peace is your inner Chatterer that
says there is something wrong now, or in the past, or to come.
The inner Chatterer may also lull you into accepting misery and
suffering as what your lot in life is by making you content with
temporary bandages of momentary pleasant experiences.
Be in the Witness position and as these type thoughts arise,
recognize them as what they are, and do whatever brings
you into a real lasting peaceful mode. This may be by mantra,
looking through your 3rd eye, doing breath control, or any
other meditation method. Learn by experimentation and
regular practice what technique best positions your awareness
at one with the silent non-commenting inner Witness.
The inner Witness is aware of what tensions your body is
going through, what emotional swings are presenting, and
what thoughts are floating by your minds screen. Looking
at your life while it is taking place through the inner Witness
is the antidote to all the poisons that keep you out of the alpha
and theta brain wave levels, emotional calmness and physical
non-reactivity that are serene, healing, and advantageous to
consciousness expansion and evolution. Meditate!

#15800 From: Silent Thunder <pacificmonk@...>
Date: Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:10 pm
Subject: Re: [Meditation Society of America] FW: Seductive Sound
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Damn! Awesome stuff right there. Really had me intrigued to the end. I think I've seen this before but I'm thankful that I'd comfortably forgot the ending altogether. Really nice read, keep it coming.

Aideen McKenna <aideenmck@...> wrote:



>> A Seductive Sound A man is driving down the road and his car breaks
>> down near a monastery. He goes to the monastery, knocks on the door,
>> and says, "My car broke down. Do you think I could stay the night?"
>> The Monks graciously accept him, feed him dinner, even fix his car. As
>> the man tries to fall asleep, he hears a strange sound. A sound not
>> like anything he's ever heard before. The Sirens that nearly seduced
>> Odysseus into crashing his ship comes to his mind. He doesn't sleep
>> that night. He tosses and turns trying to figure out what could
>> possibly be making such an intriguing and seductive sound. The next
>> morning, he asks the Monks what the sound was, but they say, "We can't
>> tell you. You're not a monk." Distraught, the man is forced to leave.
>> Years later, after never being able to forget that sound, the man goes
>> back to the monastery and pleads for the answer again. The Monks reply,

>> "We can't tell you. You're not a Monk." The man says, "If the only way
>> I can find out what is making that beautiful sound is to become a Monk,

>> then please, make me a Monk." The Monks reply, "You must travel the
>> earth and tell us how many blades of grass there are and the exact
>> number of grains of sand. When you find these answers, you will have
>> become a Monk." The man sets about his task. After years of searching
>> he returns as a gray-haired old man and knocks on the door of the
>> monastery. A Monk answers. He is taken before a gathering of all the
>> Monks. "In my quest to find what makes that beautiful sound, I traveled

>> the earth and have found what you asked for: By design, the world is
>> in a state of perpetual change. Only God knows what you ask. All a man
>> can know is himself, and only then if he is honest and reflective and
>> willing to strip away self deception." The Monks reply,
>> "Congratulations. You have become a Monk. We shall now show you the way

>> to the mystery of the sacred sound." The Monks lead the man to a wooden

>> door, where the head monk says, "The sound is beyond that door." The
>> Monks give him the key, and he opens the door. Behind the wooden door
>> is another door- it is made of stone. The man is given the key to the
>> stone door and he opens it, only to find a door made of ruby. And so
>> it went that he needed keys to doors of emerald, pearl and diamond.
>> Finally, they come to a door made of solid gold. The sound has become
>> very clear and definite. The Monks say, "T his is the last key to the
>> last door." The man is apprehensive to no end. His life's wish is
>> behind that door! With trembling hands, he unlocks the door, turns the
>> knob, and slowly pushes the door open. Falling to his knees, he is
>> utterly amazed to discover the source of that haunting and seductive
>> sound...... But I can't tell you what it is because you're not a Monk
>>
>>
>>
>>
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