Firstly, I have no medical background and didn't even really like
biology at school, so a lot of this is very new to me. Also as it
might be relevant, I'm 26, male and live in London.

I am in agreement with Samuels comments toward the heat methods of
contraception.

My girlfriend has recently stopped using the pill (after us being
together for 3 years) for seperate health reasons.

We are not getting on well with condoms and do not want to risk the
withdrawl method. Neither of us want to do anything permenant or
surgical (although it was looking like the only option until seeing
your web site). This does leave the heat method of contraception
looking very strong, although I do realise that this should not be
the only form of contraception. At the moment our method of
contraception is "not having sex", obviously I would like this to
change.

I would very much like to get more information about the suspensory
brief method. It may be uncomfortable, but is worth a go just to see
if its feasable.
If anyone could forward information on how to obtain one of these
briefs I would be very appreciative.

Again as Samuel said, if I was going to try either of these heat
methods or any other new method I would like to be able to monthly
measure the effectivness of the method. I'm not sure if all you guys
are only in the US and don't know about this in the UK, but is there
somewhere or someone that I could get in contact with that would be
able to advise on organising a sperm count or check?

Any further information on either the heat method or sperm
counts/checks would be very much appreciated.

Thanks

Sam





--- In malecontraceptives@yahoogroups.com, "gosha
<captainkrusty@y...>" <captainkrusty@y...> wrote:
> Dear originators of malecontraceptives.com
>
> I read through most of the cite and found it well done and
amazingly
> informative. I came upon your link while looking for information on
> norplant, which I was doing out frustration with the state of
> contraceptives in our society. I care a lot for my girlfriend, and
> consider safe sex practises to be of at utmost importance. We have
> been strugling with contraceptives for a long time, trying to find
> the right mix to optimise protection and feeling. So finding the
> information you posted about heat treatments, was like a godsend to
> me.
>
> After I read everything over, plus the information on the subject I
> found in some of your links, and the thing that suprised me most
was
> how little exclamation (even from you) was accroded to it. I mean,
as
> far as I can tell, this is "the" male contraceptive. Cheap(not
> counting the water bill), easy (so you soak your balls for half an
> hour in hot water twice a month on average, big deal, it could be a
> tradition even become a tradition), non binding (you can take baths
> at any time, or can miss a day, no big deal, unlike with the pill),
> non intrusive (no drugs, no surgery, no incerts, no problem), safe
> (if you are careful to not get scalded), and fully reversible (as
> shown by the studies, plus we all heard of those cases of infertile
> men, that just had to stop wearing tight pants to consieve.) Yes it
> hasnt been fully tested, and yes for safety one should also combine
> it with at least one sperm blocking method, it seems like the best
> method out there right now, period. One that I can go and try right
> now, without waiting for the FDA.
>
> Furthermore, as a devout feminist, I feel much better that there is
> more things that I could do to take responcibility for my actions.
I
> believe in using two contraceptive methods, and have no problem
with
> male condoms, but I do feel pretty bad about my girlfriend using
the
> pill, as it is big costly hassle and messes with the female system,
> which is just not fair, as all I have to do is put on a condom. Sex
> is enjoed by both sexes, but it seems that the burden is
> dispraportionately so on the women for it(considering the risks of
> childbirth and abortion).
>
> So I would like to ask: This just seems like such a great method. I
> really want to start on it, but should I talk to a doctor first?
> Also, is there any way of getting a sperm count or check? So that I
> could see if this is an effective method.
>
> It makes me wonder why isn't this out there, right now. Sure it
wasnt
> tested, but there are millions of people out there right now trying
> the stupidest methods from pepsi doushes to withdrawl. Why isnt
this
> used by the developing countrees, is hot water so hard to get
really?
> Waht about the drug hating hippies, wouldnt they be on top of this?
>
> The only answer that I could find, is that there is no money to be
> made from this. Its information, you cant sell it.... Big money is
on
> the line, so perhaps this is being actively suppressed. Maybe it
> could be a movement....
>
> In any case, thank you for the site.
>
> -Samuel, from NY