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The Wet Heat Method--a 22 day tour of my experience with a sperm an   Message List  
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Re: The Wet Heat Method--a 22 day tour of my experience with a sperm analysis

Sorry. I forgot to put the protocal up. The recommended method by Dr.
Vogeli is to immerse yourself in 116 degree water for 45 minutes a
day for 3 weeks. This should result in sterility for 6-18 months
depending (there are recorded incidents of the sterility lasting only
3 months. The urologist that I went to also said that spermatogenesis
could start back in as little as 2 months.)

According to literature, if the water is hotter, and the person can
sustain the entire 45 minutes a day for 45 days, the amount of time
one is steril should increse. But, to increase the heat more than 116
degrees is not safe. Consider that according to officials having any
body part in water that is 120 degrees for 5 minutes will cause a
third degree burn, thus increasing the heat for the 45 minutes even
at a degree will most probably cause significant burns, e.g. my case
with 117 degrees for a short period and the remaining scald.

here's a link for some burn info:
http://www.burnsurgery.com/Documents/scalds_burning_issue.doc

As for effect on libido--no drop in libido. During the treatment, I
was in a sexual relationship and our sex life was just as good if not
better than before. After the treatment, it was significantly better.
I know it is rather cliche, but the fact that I knew that I was
infertile with a semen analysis to back it, caused me to feel more
confident and focused while having intercourse which caused her
arousal to increase with a reciprocating affect on me.

Since I did not have a pre-treatment semen analysis, and since the
mass population wants proof that it is reversible, I decided not to
do the treatment every month intermittently (one full week every
month following the first full three week treatment), and have
another semen analysis in few months...I'll keep you posted.

And in reference to the constriction of the blood vessels to reduce
time, I don't think so. The treatment stops spermatogenesis, which
happens in your testicles, not in your vas deferans or any vessel for
that matter. Further, I don't think that an increase in temperature
could shorten time spent in the sitz bath, because, like a turkey in
an oven or a hamburger on a grill, increasing the heat will only burn
the outside but not cook the inside; which is essentially what you
are doing.

I hope that helps out. If you got any other questions, feel free to
contact me or post on the forum. Take care.

--- In malecontraceptives@yahoogroups.com, "cutvas" <cutvas@...>
wrote:
>
> Very interesting results. Can you repeat what you think is supposed
to
> be the optimum temperature(s) and time(s) for acheiving sterility?
>
> Any effect on your libido that you can notice?
>
> Are you going to continue and have more sperm tests taken?
>
> Since the body would try to "cool" the testical through blood flow
do
> you think slight restriction of blood flow might increase the
heating
> effect quicker and reduce the treatment time?
>
> cutvas
>





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Day 1 Items: I) Bought sitz bath Procedure: 1) Didn't have nor know of all the necessary equipment. Results: A) My bottom (genitals, buttocks, and upper...
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Very interesting results. Can you repeat what you think is supposed to be the optimum temperature(s) and time(s) for acheiving sterility? Any effect on your...
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Sorry. I forgot to put the protocal up. The recommended method by Dr. Vogeli is to immerse yourself in 116 degree water for 45 minutes a day for 3 weeks. This...
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Are you sure you didn't do any permanent damage? I thought the idea was to avoid scorching yourself during this process. Did you do an analysis before doing...
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