Hi, crushingchestpain!

Suppose we agree to disagree at this point. Meanwhile, I am sure the
other members of the group are quite capable of deciding for
themselves which of us makes more sense. Anyone who thinks that I do
not know what I am talking about is certainly welcome to that
opinion. I am sure that you will agree that anyone who thinks that I
DO know what I am talking about is ALSO welcome to THAT opinion.

Your friend,

Jim

--- In malecontraceptives@yahoogroups.com, "tcarpent_60175"
<tcarpent_60175@y...> wrote:
> You sir do not no what you are talking about--- In
> malecontraceptives@yahoogroups.com, "jp40177" <jp40177@y...> wrote:
> > Yes, a logical inference. What happens in post vasectomy
syndrome
> is
> > that when the vasa deferentia are blocked in vasectomy, the
> testicles
> > continue nonetheless to produce sperm. The continued sperm
> > production raises the pressure within the testicles. The
elevated
> > pressure can, and frequently does cause cause nerve damage and
> pain.
> > Eventually, the elevated pressure can cause a tissue rupture,
known
> > as a "blow-out." The leakage from a blow-out can, in turn,
trigger
> > an auto-immune response. The new so-called "open ended"
vasectomy
> > tried to avoid the damaging pressure, but this technique
virtually
> > guarantees an auto-immune response because of the intentional
> leakage.
> >
> > Because problems of vasectomy are in the blockage of the vasa
> > deferentia, anything which simulates a vasectomy by such blockage
> > invites similar problems.
> >
> > Of course, if you wish not to make such a LOGICAL INFERENCE, then
> > that is fine with me, but please let us not suggest that OTHERS
> > should check their BRAINS at the door.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > --- In malecontraceptives@yahoogroups.com, "vasclipmidwest"
> > <vasclipmidwest@y...> wrote:
> > > -please, a logical inference? let's go with science and
clinical
> > > data . The clinical data supports vasclip at the only fda
> approved
> > > alternative to vasectomny. tc-- In
> > > malecontraceptives@yahoogroups.com, "jp40177 <jp40177@y...>"
> > > <jp40177@y...> wrote:
> > > > Dear crushingchestpain,
> > > >
> > > > I think that Matt was drawing a logical INFERENCE.
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > > --- In malecontraceptives@yahoogroups.com, "crushingchestpain
> > > > <tcarpent_60175@y...>" <tcarpent_60175@y...> wrote:
> > > > > Matt, when giving our health advise you should advertise
your
> > > > > credentials and be familiar with recent clinical trials if
> you
> > > want
> > > > > to have any credibility.