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#594 From: "Channary" <channarynmt@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 5:34 pm
Subject: Magnetic Therapy information
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Hi, I wanted to share a great site concerning magnetic therapy.  There is a lot
of information to browse.  You can find information on how it works, if it
works, research information on magnetic therapy, videos, and lots of other more.

http://www.magnetic-therapy-living.com

Channary

#593 From: JBainSI@...
Date: Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:49 am
Subject: Re: NORSTAR
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In a message dated 26/10/2009 06:21:06 GMT Standard Time,
thesprout@... writes:

>>>>>>>Could anyone give me some advice  regarding Norstar products or
other magnetic products in general. Are they  adviced for people with
metastastic cancer? Is there are chance that they  would encourage tumour
growth?
>>>>>>>
Quite a bit of work done in the old USSR on magnotherapy as a cancer
treatment.   I've seen no real evidence that it can encourage tumour  growth,
and
have seen letters from people who believe magnotherapy reduced their
tumours.

Magnotherapy does seem useful for getting the chemotherapy poisons out of
the body faster after they have done their job, reducing nausea and other
side  effects.


Studies
Morphological criteria  of lung cancer regression under the effect of
magnetotherapy
Ogorodnikova LS; Ga¨irabed'iants NG; Ratner ON; Chirvina ED; S´em LD
Vopr  Onkol, 26(1):28-34 1980
Abstract  The  complex investigation (histological, histochemical,
morphological, electrone  microscopy) of lung cancerous  tumors from 20
patients,
subjected  preoperatively to the action of magnetic fields enhancing the
antitumor  resistance by developing general nonspecific adaptation reactions:
activation  and training, has revealed a number of morphological changes which
indicate a  marked antitumor effect of magnetic fields. These changes were
maximum manifest  after 20-30 sessions. High-differentiated adenocarcinoma
proved to be mostly sensitive to the  magnetic field action.
The effect  in vitro of permanent and variable magnetic fields on
immunocompetent blood  cells from patients with hemoblastoses and non-Hodgkin's
malignant lymphoma
Bessmel'tsev SS; Abdulkadyrov KM; Lavrushina TS;  Gonchar VA; Zamotina TB
Lik  Sprava, 1998 May, :3, 125-30
Abstract  Immunologic parameters were studied in 54 patients with myeloma
multiplex  (MM), acute leukosis (AL), non-Hodgkin's disease (NHD) before and
after in vitro  exposure of these patients' blood to weak constant magnetic
field (CMF) and CMF  in combination with variable magnetic field (VMF).
Blood irradiation with CMF  over 60 min in AL and MM patients brought about in
some cases  enhancement of the expression of +CD3, +CD4 and CD8 together with
augmentation  of the immunoregulatory index. At the same time phagocytic
activity of  leucocytes got increased as did digesting capability and index of
completeness  of phagocytosis, i.e. exposure to CMF prevents a blockade of
receptors for  neutrophilic complement, increases their phagocytic activity
and  antibody-dependent cellular cytotoxicity. In studying immunocompetent
cells of  NHD patients' blood, T-helpers were found out to be moderately
decreased, with  T-suppressors to a greater extent so. Study of CMF and VMF
effects on MM and  AL patients'  blood has shown an immunocorrective action
thereof though to a lesser extent  so.
Enhanced antitumor effect in the combined action of a  magnetic field and
hypothermia
Lu  BN; Iakupova RM; Kauashev SK
Vopr  Onkol, 26(3):55-9 1980
Abstract  To  substantiate some concepts of an oxygen-peroxide model of
carcinogenesis, a  number of experiments were conducted, and also the data were
utilized previously  obtained by the writers on the directed flow of water
dissolved oxygen  influenced by a permanent magnetic field. The observed
suppressive action of the  magnetic field on the growth of transplantable Pliss
lymphosarcoma and PC-1 tumor may be accounted for the latter  uncoupling
oxygen in actively growing hyperoxic neoplastic cells from other  participants
of the direct free radical oxidation, spliting or minimizing in  them
closed cycles of reproduction of toxic products of lipids hyperoxidation.  The
enhanced effect of magnetic therapy under hypothermia is due to the
well-known property of oxygen to change its magnetic susceptibility under the
influence of temperature.
Use of permanent magnets and magnetic fluids in  experimental oncology
Barybin AS;  Reshchikov VP
Eksp  Onkol, 7(4):18-22, 71 1985
Abstract  The  use of permanent magnets and magnetic fields (magnetic
fluids and magnetic  suspensions) alone or in complex with the antitumour
compounds for the treatment  of malignancies of various localizations is
considered. Methods and forms of the  use of permanent magnets are discussed. It
is
concluded that permanent magnets  (as magnetic suspensions and magnetic
fluids) used alone, in complex with  chemical substances or in combination with
other affecting factors (the  temperature rise) induce a considerable
regression of the tumour. Besides,  permanent magnets may promote an increase of
the
antitumour drug concentration  in the tissue of the diseased organ.
Permanent magnetic fields: influence on  oxygen-substrate  interactions and
possible mechanisms of several biomagnetic  effects.
Lyu  BN
Biol  Bull Acad Sci USSR, 7(3):229-36 1980 May-Jun
Abstract  An  account is given of the "oxygen theory of biomagnetic
effects, whereby  molecular oxygen is the primary, elementary, and fundamental
material affected  by the influence of a permanent magnetic field (PMF). The
ability of a PMF to  alter inductively the motion of paramagnetic O2 dissolved
in a fluid, and to  uncouple it from other substances which participate in
oxidative processes  leads, first of all, to a disturbance of O2 transport
and to a disturbance of  cellular bioenergetic processes. A series of
biomagnetic effects are explainable  on the basis of the suggested mechanism.
Experimental data regarding changes in  pO2 in tumor tissue under the  influence
of a PMF, and data concerning the inhibition of growth of reinoculated
tumors (Pliss' lymphosarcoma and RS-1) under the combined influence of  PMF and
hypothermia, are given as indirect support of the oxygen mechanism of  PMF
effects and the oxygen-peroxide mechanism of carcinogenesis.
Effects of  100 mT time varying magnetic fields on the growth of  tumors in
  mice.
de  Seze R; Tuffet S; Moreau JM; Veyret B
Laboratoire de Physique des Interactions Ondes-Matiere  (PIOM), ENSCPB,
Universite Bordeaux I, Talence, France.
Bioelectromagnetics 2000 Feb;21(2):107-11 (ISSN: 0197-8462)
The  effects of 100-mT, 0.8-Hz square-wave magnetic fields on the growth of
  chemically induced tumors in mice  were investigated. Tumors were
initiated using one injection of benzo(a)pyrene  (either 0.2 mg or 2.0
mg/animal).
Male and female mice (Balb/c, C3H and C57/bl/6  strains) were exposed for 8
h/day from the onset of tumor until death or until the tumor volume  reached
a predetermined volume. Statistically significant decrease in the rate  of
tumor growth and increase in survival were observed in all cases. Results are
  discussed in terms of previous published work and of possible  mechanisms.
Magnetic field induced inhibition of human  osteosarcoma cells treated with
  adriamycin.
Cancer Biochem Biophys 1999 Jul;17(1-2):89-98 (ISSN: 0305-7232)
Chakkalakal DA; Mollner TJ; Bogard MR; Fritz ED; Novak  JR; McGuire MH
Creighton  University Biomedical Engineering Center, Creighton University
School of Medicine, Omaha, NE 68105, USA.
Morbidity resulting from the toxicity of chemotherapeutic  drugs suggests
that novel approaches are worthy of investigation. Development of  the use of
low intensity magnetic fields as an adjuvant to current treatment  regimens
to prevent metastatic disease may prove to be efficacious. Using a cell
culture model, we have developed a magnetic field (MF) treatment that offers
the  possibility of lowering the therapeutic dose of these drugs and thereby
reducing  morbidity. Our studies have found that a low intensity
(approximately 2 gauss)  MF signal and a relatively low dose (0.1 microg/ml) of
Adriamycin (ADR)  inhibited proliferation of human osteosarcoma cells by 82%,
whereas the MF and ADR  acting individually caused only 19% and 44% inhibition,
respectively.
The Assessment of the Efficacy of the Effect of a  Rotational Magnetic
Field on the Course of the Tumor Process in Patients with Generalized  Breast
Cancer
Bakhmutskii. N.G, et al
Sov  Med, (7), 1991, p. 25-27.
This  study examined the effects of a rotational magnetic field on a group
of 51  breast cancer patients. Results showed a significant  positive r
esponse in 27 of them.
A Case of Successful Treatment of a Patient with  Breast Cancer Using a
Rotating Electromagnetic  Field
Bakhmutskii. N.G, et al
Soviet Medicine, 8, 1991, p. 86-87.
This  article reports on the case of a 48-year-old-woman with breast cancer
who was treated successfully with  magnetotherapy. Infiltration showed a
marked decrease following 30 whole body  exposures to an eddy magnetic field
for 60 minutes. One metastatic node  disappeared while the size of others was
reduced following 60 such exposures. A  total regression of tumor and
metastases was seen following the completion of a course of 110  exposures.
The Growth Dynamics of Walker  Carsinosarcoma During Exposure to a Magnetic
Eddy  Field
Bakhmutskii N.G, et al
Vopr  Onkol, 37(6), 1991, p. 705-708.
Results of this study indicated that exposure to a  rotational magnetic
field inhibited Walker's carcinoma tumor growth as much as 90 percent in some
cases.
Morphological Criteria of Lung Cancer Regression Under the Effect of
Magnetotherapy
Ogorodnikova L.S, et al
Vopr  Onkol, 26(1), 1980, p. 28-34.
Results of this study found that 20-30 sessions of  magnetotherapy
administered preoperatively exhibited antitumor effects in  patients suffering
from
lung cancer.
The Role of Complex Biophysical-Chemical Therapies for  Cancer
U.  Randoll & R.M. Pangan
Bioelectrochem Bioenerg, 27(3), 1992, p.  341-346.
Results of this study proved that the combination of weak  pulsed
electromagnetic fields with antioxidant supplementation is beneficial in  the
treatment of patients suffering from tongue cancer, improving speech,  pain
control, and tolerance to  chemotherapy.
Radiomodifying Effect of a Constant Magnetic Field in  Radiation Therapy of
Patients with Cancer of the  Throat
Andreev V.G, et al
Fizicheskaia Meditzina, 4(1-2), 1994, p. 92.
Results of this controlled study indicated that treatment  with a constant
magnetic field significantly improved long-term (3-year)  survival time in
patients undergoing radiation therapy for cancer of the throat. Constant
magnetic field  therapy consisted of the application of 300 mT for 30 minutes to
tumor and metastasizing regions immediately  prior to each irradiation.
Leukaemia
Effect of static magnetic fields on survival of  leukaemia-prone AKR  mice
Bellossi  Radiat Environ Biophys 1986;25(1):75-80   (ISSN:  0301-634X)
The  influence of a life-long exposure to static magnetic fields (SMF) on
the  lifespan of female AKR mice which develop spontaneous lymphoblastic
leukaemia was investigated.  Exposure all day long to a circular SMF, 4.6 mT
maximal intensity or 2 h a day,  5 consecutive days a week to a uniform SMF of
400 mT did not modify the lifespan  of mice. Exposure 2 h a day, 5
consecutive days a week to a uniform SMF of 600  or 800 mT modified the
lifespan:
about 50% of the population had a longer  survival than the controls. Mice
exposed 30 min a day 5 consecutive days a week  to a non-uniform SMF presented
the same trend.
ELF pulsed magnetic fields on survival of  leukaemia-prone AKR  mice.
Bellossi A; Bernard-Griffiths I; Le Gall M
Source In Vivo, 2(5):335-7 1988 Sep-Oct
Abstract  In  a previous experiment an increase in the survival time of
leukaemia-prone AKR  mice was observed by exposure to a 600 mT or 800 mT static
magnetic field when  the mice were at least 200 days old. In this
experiment 200-day-old-mice were  exposed to a 6 mT pulsed magnetic field (PMF)
for
30 minutes a day, twice a week  until death. The frequency of the field was
12 Hz or 460 Hz. The exposed mice  died from leukaemia but had an increased
survival time; the average increase was  14.25% compared to the controls.
Both the frequencies gave similar  results.

best wishes
John
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#592 From: "thesprout@..." <thesprout@...>
Date: Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:41 am
Subject: NORSTAR
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hi there,

I am new to this group. Could anyone give me some advice regarding Norstar
products or other magnetic products in general. Are they adviced for people with
metastastic cancer? Is there are chance that they would encourage tumour growth?

Thanks very much for your help


Tami

#591 From: "Gaiacita" <gaiacita@...>
Date: Tue May 19, 2009 10:01 pm
Subject: For Peter Kulish
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Hi Peter.  I went just now to your site for the magnets and products, to
give someone a link--and your site was blocked by Google as a reported
attack site!!  You will want to check into it, as I know it is not you, but
it said that a third party could import attack software.

Samala,
Renee

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#590 From: JBainSI@...
Date: Sun May 3, 2009 2:49 am
Subject: Re: Re: knee joint
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On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 3:07 PM, aka <texasbluesfan@...>  wrote:
>>  Did you get your magnets online or maybe a health  food store?
In a message dated 02/05/2009 23:58:59 GMT Daylight Time,
gdiana07@... writes:
>i got them online...however, renee, who is the moderator can tell u of  a
>good source.

I'm the moderator of this group, there is a list of  manufacturers and
distributors here


http://sound-ideas.info/13.html

This is as full a list as I can produce and does contain some links that  I
believe may be scams.
Do make sure that you get a good money back guarantee before  buying.

For knee problems, there are two different approaches.
Magnotherapy wristband over the blood flow in the wrist.   This  seems to
treat the blood which then treats the rest of the body, including the  knee.
  There was a British Medical Journal study that showed  magnotherapy
wristbands reduced pain from osteoarthritis in the hip and  knee.

Magnotherapy modules either side of the knee, directly treating the
problem.

The only way to find out which is best for you is to try it and  see.
But make sure you get a good money back guarantee.
If one product or technique doesn't work for you, get your money back and
try another.

Best wishes

John




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#589 From: aka <texasbluesfan@...>
Date: Sun May 3, 2009 1:53 am
Subject: Re: Re: knee joint
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Don't worry about it.  I'm sure I can get it from one of the distributors I
order from. 
Thanks.
Allison 

--- On Sat, 5/2/09, diana gia <gdiana07@...> wrote:

From: diana gia <gdiana07@...>
Subject: Re: [magnotherapy] Re: knee joint
To: magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, May 2, 2009, 8:47 PM








i looked for the receipt and could not find it... however, still trying to
find it for u. it doesn't have a brand name, it is natural. and this one
man sells it.

diana

On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 4:36 PM, aka <texasbluesfan@ yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> I order all my vitamins,minerals, etc online. I have 3 or 4 different
> websites I buy from. A few years ago I discovered I could get the same
> brands online for about half what I was paying at the healthfood store.
> I'd love to know your source and brand of choice.
> Thanks.
> Allison
>
> --- On Sat, 5/2/09, diana gia <gdiana07@gmail. com <gdiana07%40gmail. com>>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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--
"Let the beauty we love be what we do. There are hundreds of ways to kneel
and kiss the ground." - Rumi

"And forget not that the Earth delights to feel your bare feet and the winds
long to play with your hair." Kahlil Gibran

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#588 From: diana gia <gdiana07@...>
Date: Sun May 3, 2009 1:47 am
Subject: Re: Re: knee joint
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i looked for the receipt and could not find it...  however, still trying to
find it for u.  it doesn't have a brand name, it is natural.  and this one
man sells it.

diana

On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 4:36 PM, aka <texasbluesfan@...> wrote:

>
>
> I order all my vitamins,minerals, etc online.  I have 3 or 4 different
> websites I buy from.  A few years ago I discovered I could  get the same
> brands online for about half what I was paying at the healthfood store.
> I'd love to know your source and brand of choice.
> Thanks.
> Allison
>
> --- On Sat, 5/2/09, diana gia <gdiana07@... <gdiana07%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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--
"Let the beauty we love be what we do. There are hundreds of ways to kneel
and kiss the ground." - Rumi

"And forget not that the Earth delights to feel your bare feet and the winds
long to play with your hair." Kahlil Gibran


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#587 From: aka <texasbluesfan@...>
Date: Sat May 2, 2009 11:36 pm
Subject: Re: Re: knee joint
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I order all my vitamins,minerals, etc online.  I have 3 or 4 different websites
I buy from.  A few years ago I discovered I could  get the same brands online
for about half what I was paying at the healthfood store.
I'd love to know your source and brand of choice.
Thanks.
Allison
--- On Sat, 5/2/09, diana gia <gdiana07@...> wrote:




 


















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#586 From: diana gia <gdiana07@...>
Date: Sat May 2, 2009 10:57 pm
Subject: Re: Re: knee joint
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i got them online...however, renee, who is the moderator can tell u of a
good source.

diana

On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 3:07 PM, aka <texasbluesfan@...> wrote:

>
>
> Thanks for responding.  I don't know what cmo is.  Will you explain?  Did
> you get your magnets online or maybe a health food store?
> Thanks.
> Allison
>
> --- On Sat, 5/2/09, diana <gdiana07@... <gdiana07%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> From: diana <gdiana07@... <gdiana07%40gmail.com>>
> Subject: [magnotherapy] Re: knee joint
> To: magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com <magnotherapy%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Saturday, May 2, 2009, 4:49 PM
>
> i taped magnets on my hand and it helped a LOT...i have osteoporosis and it
> was very painful before that. also, using cmo has helped the most.
>
> i believe daddybob has used magnets and cmo for his hip with good results.
> perhaps he might share that with u.
>
> diana
>
> --- In magnotherapy@ yahoogroups. com, aka <texasbluesfan@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > I'm new to the group.� I'm having trouble with my right knee and am
> thinking about getting a brace with magnets in it.
> > Has anyone had any experience they would care to share with me.
> > Thanks.
> > Allison
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>



--
"Let the beauty we love be what we do. There are hundreds of ways to kneel
and kiss the ground." - Rumi

"And forget not that the Earth delights to feel your bare feet and the winds
long to play with your hair." Kahlil Gibran


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#585 From: diana gia <gdiana07@...>
Date: Sat May 2, 2009 10:55 pm
Subject: Re: Re: knee joint
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hi allison,

u can google cmo...

also, here is a link...

http://www.authenticcmo.com/?gclid=CLvlxuHcnpoCFQ9JagodsAgY-g

however, do not buy this...i have a better source when u are ready.  i have
no financial interest,btw.  however, do use it.

diana

On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 3:07 PM, aka <texasbluesfan@...> wrote:

>
>
> Thanks for responding.  I don't know what cmo is.  Will you explain?  Did
> you get your magnets online or maybe a health food store?
> Thanks.
> Allison
>
> --- On Sat, 5/2/09, diana <gdiana07@... <gdiana07%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> From: diana <gdiana07@... <gdiana07%40gmail.com>>
> Subject: [magnotherapy] Re: knee joint
> To: magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com <magnotherapy%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Saturday, May 2, 2009, 4:49 PM
>
> i taped magnets on my hand and it helped a LOT...i have osteoporosis and it
> was very painful before that. also, using cmo has helped the most.
>
> i believe daddybob has used magnets and cmo for his hip with good results.
> perhaps he might share that with u.
>
> diana
>
> --- In magnotherapy@ yahoogroups. com, aka <texasbluesfan@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > I'm new to the group.� I'm having trouble with my right knee and am
> thinking about getting a brace with magnets in it.
> > Has anyone had any experience they would care to share with me.
> > Thanks.
> > Allison
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>



--
"Let the beauty we love be what we do. There are hundreds of ways to kneel
and kiss the ground." - Rumi

"And forget not that the Earth delights to feel your bare feet and the winds
long to play with your hair." Kahlil Gibran


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#584 From: aka <texasbluesfan@...>
Date: Sat May 2, 2009 10:07 pm
Subject: Re: Re: knee joint
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Thanks for responding.  I don't know what cmo is.  Will you explain?  Did you
get your magnets online or maybe a health food store? 
Thanks.
Allison

--- On Sat, 5/2/09, diana <gdiana07@...> wrote:

From: diana <gdiana07@...>
Subject: [magnotherapy] Re: knee joint
To: magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, May 2, 2009, 4:49 PM








i taped magnets on my hand and it helped a LOT...i have osteoporosis and it was
very painful before that. also, using cmo has helped the most.

i believe daddybob has used magnets and cmo for his hip with good results.
perhaps he might share that with u.

diana

--- In magnotherapy@ yahoogroups. com, aka <texasbluesfan@ ...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I'm new to the group.� I'm having trouble with my right knee and am thinking
about getting a brace with magnets in it.
> Has anyone had any experience they would care to share with me.
> Thanks.
> Allison
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>



















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#583 From: phunkc@...
Date: Sat May 2, 2009 6:02 pm
Subject: Re: knee joint
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Yes, I do please email me personally.




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Hi,
I'm new to the group.  I'm having trouble with my right  knee and am
thinking about getting a brace with magnets in it.
Has  anyone had any experience they would care to share with  me.
Thanks.
Allison

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#582 From: "diana" <gdiana07@...>
Date: Sat May 2, 2009 9:49 pm
Subject: Re: knee joint
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i taped magnets on my hand and it helped a LOT...i have osteoporosis and it was
very painful before that.  also, using cmo has helped the most.

i believe daddybob has used magnets and cmo for his hip with good results. 
perhaps he might share that with u.

diana

--- In magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com, aka <texasbluesfan@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I'm new to the group.� I'm having trouble with my right knee and am thinking
about getting a brace with magnets in it.
> Has anyone had any experience they would care to share with me.
> Thanks.
> Allison
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#581 From: aka <texasbluesfan@...>
Date: Sat May 2, 2009 4:16 pm
Subject: knee joint
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Hi,
I'm new to the group.  I'm having trouble with my right knee and am thinking
about getting a brace with magnets in it.
Has anyone had any experience they would care to share with me.
Thanks.
Allison




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#580 From: "ransley" <ransley@...>
Date: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:15 am
Subject: Breast lump- If magnet caused, can magnet help?
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I'm really in need of some help here.

My wife has a lump in her left breast at 12 o'clock about an inch above the
nipple. It is NOT painful. To cut out a lot of unnecessary story right here,
let's just cut to the chase and say we're rather convinced that it is not
cancer, that it is a fibroid, she has a history of fibroids in her other
breast, vagina and uterus.

We fell quite sure that a magnetic name tag had a part in making this thing
very hard. Said tag had 3 strong little button mags, appearing to be plated
neodymium, and two of them had the south pole back at her. She wore it
several hours daily for 5 days a week and nearly a year, always over her
left breast, right over this lump. A friend of ours is adamant that magnets
worn wrongly can harden tumors/cysts, stones and calcified joints.

In 36 days since discovery, we have had some success at shrinking it and
softening it, but not nearly fast enough to soothe her mind. We are making a
big move right now to enzymes to work on dissolving it.

My question is...If magnets used wrongly had a hand in hardening this thing,
can magnets used properly help to soften and/or dissolve it?

Daddybob

#579 From: "Peter Kulish" <com1@...>
Date: Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:06 am
Subject: RE: Magnet Placement
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I do not believe it to be necessarily true that the negative on the positive
will always contraindicate, but there certainly have been a lot of responses
from many people through the years - with writings by researchers who would
have the individual put it on and off over and over even if it hurts - till
the site gets better. It is an electromotive shorting-out and when you are
dealing with full volts on the pico Farads voltage cells, that is probably
why a lot of people indicate it hurts after a bit as that is a lot of energy
going down the wrong nerve pathway and affecting the cells with some very
strong shorting-out.



In the inverse, that is why, when using the same voltage on the same
polarity, the body shows such rapid healing; improperly applied in its DC
electric dynamic is why it doesn't heal as quickly and hurts:



For Example the 70ish man with two crushed knees and splintered legs walking
normally in 2.5 months instead of starting physiotherapy in 10 months and
without any pain the whole time.



The back circuit increases the fluids which separate the vertebrae while
negative both sides uniformly helps to support a normalization of tissue to
hold everything in place. See long term sciatica patient video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0OTEPfScy8  . I have seen 20 year term
herniated disc re-grow to full height.



Further to your other question - the back circuit therapy is different from
a knee or rotator cup circuit, but those also employ both fields in the
correct application when necessary.



Peter Kulish, Founder

Director of Science

www.BiomagScience.net







From: magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of stuartchiro
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 12:59 PM
To: magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [magnotherapy] Magnet Placement



I've read a few articles on the internet about magnet placment according to
the polarity of the particular body part.
In the past, I have simply placed the negative pole of a magnet against the
site of pain and have had very good anecdotal success using that protocol.

It's my understand that one should never place a magnet on a body part which
has a positive polarity......the one exception being the back. What is the
rational behind placing a positive pole magnet on the back with a negative
pole being placed a few inches away? Also, why is this protocol not followed
on the other positive body parts?





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#578 From: "Peter Kulish" <com1@...>
Date: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:11 pm
Subject: Lupus Helped with BiomagScience Alternative Therapy
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The following is about Lupus starting to resolve with BiomagScience
therapies.

Please note that whenever the word "treatment" is used in the following
letter to BiomagScience, we inserted the word "therapies" right after.
BiomagScience does not offer or suggest any treatments. We do suggest
various alternative energy therapies that have shown to support
normalization of tissue. This is the same for the word "healing". The
therapies we suggest "support" the body's own "healing" ability.






Lupus Letter:

This brings me to a client of mine who is 43 and she has suffered horribly
from lupus since she was 29 years old. I turned her onto bio-magnets and she
has been doing meridian treatments [therapies] for almost a week. Following
everything by the book.



It happened by chance that while I was working at her house last weekend,
she became so ill she had to go to the emergency room, because her digestive
system hardly works at all, and she suffers from severe constipation. Just
one of the many things that plague her because of the lupus. Within a few
days of treatments [therapies], her transformation has been to say the least
awe inspiring.



She couldn't even drink water before wearing the magnets and she's already
on her second gallon of magnet water. And the most amazing thing... She's
hungry for the first time in a long time. She can't believe how much better
she feels

already. Tammy is committed 100% to treating [therapies] herself with magnet
therapy. When she was 29 her lupus doctor, same one to date, who diagnosed
her, gave her ten years to live. She's beat that by four years. She wants to
live..obviously.



She has told her doctors about the recent magnet treatments [therapies], and
they have had an extremely, positive response. Her lupus doctor is
especially anxious to see how she's coming along at her next monthly check
up.



If there is any advice you can give me in the area of lupus, and bio-mag

treatments [therapies] it would be very much appreciated. Thank you very
much for taking the time to read this.

Sincerely,

Richard xxxxxxxxxx



BiomagScience on Lupus:

Regarding Lupus, in the early 90's, someone's sister we were working with
had lupus. She used our PUM (personal use magnet) and her lupus condition
stopped after a month. Her brother later told me she gave the PUM to someone
she met in a lupus support group and the same thing happened - the condition
stopped.



Ever since the beginning of our research 3 decades ago, we have been
learning how magnetism, when properly applied, helps increase the cellular
electromotive energy which stimulates and helps to increase nutritional and
detoxification transfer which helps to increase metabolic and immune
functions. This voltage material can be reviewed @
http://www.biomagscience.net/magnet-therapy/bia-cellular-voltage-testing-fms




After reviewing this response to the lupus, it is our feeling that this type
of lupus falls into the category of conditions that occur  because the body
for whatever reason, loses its electromotive vitality and subsequently
starts to dysfunction which creates conditions such as lupus.



As shown by the response,  the condition went away with the proper
BioMagnetic application which supplemented the body's electromotive
vitality.



In response to the letter above asking if there was any advice we could give
to the lupus individual, we suggest the following:



Use the BiomagScience OGE (Organ Group Energizing) therapy 24 hours a day
for 3 days to initially introduce uniform support energy to the cells, main
organs and brain. This therapy was developed to help the seriously ill make
the first step toward acquiring cellular electromotive vitality. It is an
important step for clients who are suffering from stuck cells (often
creating long-term chronic fatigue syndrome)in which the cells have the
unfortunate Catch-22 situation of not having enough energy to pump in the
electrolytes needed to pump in the required nutrition to get healthy -
literally are stuck with weak cells and no nutrition available to help the
cells get healthy. Using the OGE has shown to increase the voltage which
increases the cell's pump for nutrition so they can start the road to
recovery.



Then it is advised to use the Overnight MET (Meridian Energizing Support
Therapy) protocol for 10 days to help the body's biochemistry to balance.



During the day, the Daytime and lower CVS BioMagnetic therapies, magnetized
energized water to support increases of oxygen and hydrogen, and the use of
BiomagScience Activated Oxygen are therapies that have shown to support the
body's normalization and to help overcome acute and chronic conditions.



All therapies are suggested to be done in conjunction with a good diet and
vitamin/mineral supplementation.



BiomagScience recommends the Wellness Kit which has all the elements to
perform all the therapies. It contains all three various size BioMagnets,
Water Jar Energizers, Activated Oxygen, the Conquering Pain Therapy Guide
Book with its over 170 separate therapy protocols, pictorial guide to all
the advanced therapies mentioned and self-grip, re-usable Ace-Type bandage
to apply the protocols.



We hope this material has been helpful.

Best of health.

Peter Kulish, Founder

Director of Science

www.BiomagScience.net
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1039&admin=0&destination=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.biomagscience.net%2F>

Disclaimer: The use of magnetism or any of the products offered herein are
intended to benefit normal structure and function and is not prescribed as
treatment for medical or psychological conditions, nor for diagnosis, care,
treatment or rehabilitation of individuals, nor to apply medical, mental
health or human development principles. Testimonial results are not typical.
Translations and content subject to errors and omissions.







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#577 From: "stuartchiro" <subluxation@...>
Date: Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:58 pm
Subject: Magnet Placement
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I've read a few articles on the internet about magnet placment according to the
polarity of the particular body part.
In the past, I have simply placed the negative pole of a magnet against the site
of pain and have had very good anecdotal success using that protocol.

It's my understand that one should never place a magnet on a body part which has
a positive polarity......the one exception being the back.  What is the rational
behind placing a positive pole magnet on the back with a negative pole being
placed a few inches away?  Also, why is this protocol not followed on the other
positive body parts?

#576 From: "stuartchiro" <subluxation@...>
Date: Mon Mar 9, 2009 9:25 pm
Subject: Re: MagnaBlock - Quadblock
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Thank you for your insight.  I've got Dr. Becker's book.  I'll dust it off and
get to reading it.

#575 From: "Peter Kulish" <com1@...>
Date: Mon Mar 9, 2009 8:53 pm
Subject: RE: MagnaBlock - Quadblock
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I believe it is found that the electromotive forces, when correctly
introduced, expedite the traumatized cells to return to normal by
accelerating the correct [negative calming/contractive] voltage to reduce
the Positive charged inflammation and re-stabilize the metabolic functions
including transfer efficiencies. This seems so apparent especially when
reviewing the research even at my site
http://www.biomagscience.net/magnet-therapy/foundation-magnetic-science-rese
arch .





Peter Kulish, Founder

Director of Science

www.BiomagScience.net







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Behalf Of JBainSI@...
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 3:05 PM
To: magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [magnotherapy] MagnaBlock - Quadblock




In a message dated 09/03/2009 18:32:44 GMT Standard Time,
subluxation@... <mailto:subluxation%40tds.net>  writes:

>>>>>I have seen a set of 4 magnets with alternating polarities being
researched by neurologists at Vanderbilt. This seems to go against the
simple
directions of placing the negative pole of a magnet against the site of
pain.....and yet, personal experience seems to indicate they both work. What
are your
thoughts regarding this?

Yep, they both work, and the only studies suggesting one is more effective
than the other are from Vanderbilt who found that the multipole magnets were

more effective on tissue than the single pole magnets. But that was in the
lab, not in real life.

Judging from instructions posted here, the multipole magnets are easier to
use, just put 'em on and reap the benefits.
The single pole magnets need to be carefully positioned on acupuncture
points it would seem.

Bear in mind that the mechanism behind magnotherapy is still not proven,
lots of different theories, some very odd.

best wishes

John
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#574 From: "Peter Kulish" <com1@...>
Date: Mon Mar 9, 2009 8:44 pm
Subject: RE: Double Stacks and Band Aids
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Designed for ease of application and correct penentration.



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Behalf Of stuartchiro
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 12:49 PM
To: magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [magnotherapy] Double Stacks and Band Aids



On some of the magnet sets available for pain, I see that it is recommended
to double stack the magnets with a bandaid between them. What is the purpose
of this setup? Thanks.





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#573 From: "Peter Kulish" <com1@...>
Date: Mon Mar 9, 2009 8:43 pm
Subject: RE: MagnaBlock - Quadblock
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The body corrects its pain by sending Negative electromotive energy to any
hurt or traumatized site. What is the polarity of a traumatized site:
Positive.



When researching how fast a site is supported by the various energies,
Negative always leads. Perhaps you shold read Dr. Robert Becker's "Body
Electric" and Albert Roy Davis' "Magnetism and its Effect on the Living
System." These two scientific tomes make it pretty sim0le to understand why
polarities are not mixed within the single placement. A book on polarities
and Reike and the Body Electric supports understanding the nerve pathways
and how the energy runs in the body physiology which would lead to
understanding circuit therapy.

Peter



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Behalf Of stuartchiro
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 12:53 PM
To: magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [magnotherapy] MagnaBlock - Quadblock



I have seen a set of 4 magnets with alternating polarities being researched
by neurologists at Vanderbilt. This seems to go against the simple
directions of placing the negative pole of a magnet against the site of
pain.....and yet, personal experience seems to indicate they both work. What
are your thoughts regarding this?





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#572 From: "stuartchiro" <subluxation@...>
Date: Mon Mar 9, 2009 7:18 pm
Subject: Magnetic Pulsers
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I realize that there are other uses being touted for these instruments.....but,
what are your thoughts on using these for pain?

#571 From: JBainSI@...
Date: Mon Mar 9, 2009 3:04 pm
Subject: Re: MagnaBlock - Quadblock
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In a message dated 09/03/2009 18:32:44 GMT Standard Time,
subluxation@... writes:

>>>>>I have seen a set of 4 magnets with alternating  polarities being
researched by neurologists at Vanderbilt.  This seems to  go against the simple
directions of placing the negative pole of a magnet  against the site of
pain.....and yet, personal experience seems to indicate  they both work.  What
are your
thoughts regarding  this?



Yep, they both work, and the only studies suggesting one is more effective
than the other are from Vanderbilt who found that the multipole magnets were
more effective on tissue than the single pole magnets.   But that was  in the
lab, not in real life.

Judging from instructions posted here, the multipole magnets are easier to
use, just put 'em on and reap the benefits.
The single pole magnets need to be carefully positioned on acupuncture
points it would seem.

Bear in mind that the mechanism behind magnotherapy is still not proven,
lots of different theories, some very odd.

best wishes

John
sound-ideas.info



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#570 From: "stuartchiro" <subluxation@...>
Date: Mon Mar 9, 2009 4:49 pm
Subject: Double Stacks and Band Aids
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On some of the magnet sets available for pain, I see that it is recommended to
double stack the magnets with a bandaid between them.  What is the purpose of
this setup? Thanks.

#569 From: "stuartchiro" <subluxation@...>
Date: Mon Mar 9, 2009 4:52 pm
Subject: MagnaBlock - Quadblock
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I have seen a set of 4 magnets with alternating polarities being researched by
neurologists at Vanderbilt.  This seems to go against the simple directions of
placing the negative pole of a magnet against the site of pain.....and yet,
personal experience seems to indicate they both work.  What are your thoughts
regarding this?

#568 From: "ransley" <ransley@...>
Date: Fri Feb 6, 2009 11:42 pm
Subject: Re: New Question from-Mag question for John
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>Uhhh,.....I turn 40 this year,and as you can imagine.......OMG do I feel
dumb.<

Don't. It's not dumb. It's easy to forget if you were taught it as a child
but even then half the time it wasn't taught correctly.

The needle of a compass is a two-poled magnet. The North needle of a compass
is actually the *north seeking* end of that magnet, which means it is
actually the south pole of that magnet. Therefore it will point towards the
north pole of any other closer magnet. After you mark one magnet, it's a
breeze to use that magnet to mark any others.

What's a bit harder to wrap your head around is that the north of a magnet
is the "negative" pole while the south is the "positive" pole, but since we
do want north pole energy towards our body, and not the south, it gets
tricky to remember that in magnet therapy, negative is good and positive is
bad. This is all because Ben Franklin got it wrong and now it's convention.

Hey if you think that's dumb get a load of this- I was 52 before I finally
learned that a fluid ounce of water is the general same as a weight ounce.

Daddybob
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#567 From: "Gaiacita" <gaiacita@...>
Date: Fri Feb 6, 2009 11:24 pm
Subject: Re: Re: New Question from-Mag question for John
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No no,  Not dumb at all.  When I first started reading about magnets it was
VERY confusing.  Everyone was using a different set of words.  There was
north, north seeking, north pole, positive, negative, south, etc.  And
everyone was meaning a different thing--or MAYBE the same thing, said in a
different way.   It took me quite a while to figure to which was what.  :-)

So--welcome to the over 40 club.  Lololol

Samala,
Renee

-------Original Message-------

Uhhh,.....I turn 40 this year,and as you can imagine.......OMG do I feel
dumb.



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#566 From: car lowen <hotwheelin1969@...>
Date: Fri Feb 6, 2009 5:01 pm
Subject: Re: Re: New Question from-Mag question for John
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Uhhh,.....I turn 40 this year,and as you can imagine.......OMG do I feel dumb.


--- On Fri, 2/6/09, Gaiacita <gaiacita@...> wrote:

From: Gaiacita <gaiacita@...>
Subject: Re: [magnotherapy] Re: New Question from-Mag question for John
To: magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 6:20 AM






Hello Carl. The best way is to get a compass. You can take your magnet
into any sports store, or a place like Walmart and they will have compasses.

Hold the compass so that the needle, facing north, is facing away from you.
Bring your magnet, one flat surface of it, towards the side of the compass.
If the needle turns TOWARDS your magnet, that is the north side of your
magnet. If the needle turns AWAY from your magnet, you have the south side
of the magnet. Mark one of these sides so you will remember which is which.

Hope that helps.

Samala,
Renee

-------Original Message----- --

Hello from Bakersfield CA,my name is Carl.
I was wondering how to tell the poles on any magnet.Is there a
technique? Did I miss something in Kindergarten?
Thanks.



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#565 From: "Gaiacita" <gaiacita@...>
Date: Fri Feb 6, 2009 2:20 pm
Subject: Re: Re: New Question from-Mag question for John
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Hello Carl.  The best way is to get a compass.  You can take your magnet
into any sports store, or a place like Walmart and they will have compasses.

Hold the compass so that the needle, facing north, is facing away from you.
Bring your magnet, one flat surface of it, towards the side of the compass.
If the needle turns TOWARDS your magnet, that is the north side of your
magnet.  If the needle turns AWAY from your magnet, you have the south side
of the magnet.  Mark one of these sides so you will remember which is which.

Hope that helps.

Samala,
Renee

-------Original Message-------

Hello from Bakersfield CA,my name is Carl.
I was wondering how to tell the poles on any magnet.Is there a
technique? Did I miss something in Kindergarten?
Thanks.



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