Hello Carl.  The best way is to get a compass.  You can take your magnet
into any sports store, or a place like Walmart and they will have compasses.

Hold the compass so that the needle, facing north, is facing away from you.
Bring your magnet, one flat surface of it, towards the side of the compass.
If the needle turns TOWARDS your magnet, that is the north side of your
magnet.  If the needle turns AWAY from your magnet, you have the south side
of the magnet.  Mark one of these sides so you will remember which is which.

Hope that helps.

Samala,
Renee

-------Original Message-------

Hello from Bakersfield CA,my name is Carl.
I was wondering how to tell the poles on any magnet.Is there a
technique? Did I miss something in Kindergarten?
Thanks.



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Hello from Bakersfield CA,my name is Carl.
I was wondering how to tell the poles on any magnet.Is there a
technique? Did I miss something in Kindergarten?
Thanks.




--- In magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Kulish" <com1@...> wrote:
>
> Pardon,
>
>
>
> If you put the Negative side down toward the body, all influence
will show
> an increase in electromotive negative. If you put the Positive side
down,
> positive energy will occur within the tissue and resultant
bloodstream and
> therefore systemically, the body will move in that electromotive
manner.
>
>
>
> If you look at PubMed or Medline, the same tests are there that show
> Negative slowed down cancer in vitro while Positive sped it up.
This has
> been verified over and over again by the Swedes and elsewhere. This
is the
> same action that takes place in the body's tissue. Put positive
into the
> system and acidosis occurs. Use Negative and alkalinity is
supported.
>
>
>
> It is not a good idea to say that either pole will create the same
response
> - that is playing with fire and someone might actually use positive
and hurt
> themselves or push some precursor cells (slightly positive) into
cancer -
> true chaos.
>
>
>
> I have reviewed the video of the muscle tension/ relief of the
multi-polar
> foot pad and apparently the multi-polar do affect the ascending and
> descending signals in a positive manner. As far as I have heard
from all
> over the world, the multi-polar pads are all right for muscles
aches or as
> they say in Japan "Sore Shoulders" but when you are supporting
advanced
> healing and pain relief, the electro-negative is what the body uses
and an
> amplified form of it works wonders. Reviewing
>
http://www.biomagscience.com/live_cell_microscopy_test_results_by_fms
, the
> blood work and succeeding nutritional transfer efficiency did not
occur with
> the multi-polar pads energies - it was tried.
>
>
>
> If you are trying to support an increase in oxygen and promote
healing at a
> site, unless you are using a specific circuit therapy to regenerate
a nerve
> or  missing connective tissue, the final amplified field used
should be just
> like the body's' -  electro-negative. When reviewing using electro-
negative
> to reduce free radicals such as
> http://www.biomagscience.com/25_year_illness_starts_resolving , the
> multi-polar energies did not and will not do that.
>
>
>
> So when attempting to do supportive healing, it is wise to use the
same
> energy the body does when it heals - Negative.
>
>
>
> Peter Kulish, Senior Science Director
>
> Foundation for Magnetic Science
>
> Chairman, BiomagScience, MagnetoCore
>
> T - 267-544-0390
>
> F - 215-501-5775
>
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>
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> Behalf Of phunkc@...
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 8:25 AM
> To: magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [magnotherapy] Mag question for John
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear All,
>
> There is no Chaos in N/S/N/S. The entire universe works in a dual
polar
> fashion right down to our own DNA. It does not matter what side you
place a
> 'so
> called' unipolar magnet on...you will still get both north and south
> magnetic
> fields.
>
>
> Peace, love and a kinder answer,
> Liz
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> In a message dated 10/13/2008 4:50:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> JBainSI@... <mailto:JBainSI%40aol.com>  writes:
>
> In a message dated 13/10/2008 06:18:18 GMT Daylight Time,
> _gaiacita@... <mailto:_gaiacita%40gmail.gai> _
> (mailto:gaiacita@... <mailto:gaiacita%40gmail.com> )
> writes:
>
> >>>>>And as I said--this use of a single negative pole for healing--
is my
> own
> personal opinion. For what is best for ME. I'm sure others have had
other
> experience. But I feel better using the negative pole only, rather
than
> n/s/n/s chaos theory. :-)
>
> That's the main thing, find something that works for you.
> But have you used any of the commercially available magnotherapy
products.
> The major manufacturers use bi-polar techniques.
>
> Have a look at this video
>
> _http://revver.http://revhttp://revver.
> <http://revver.http:/revhttp:/revver.> <Whttp://rehttp://revver._
> <Whttp://rehttp:/revver._>
> (http://revver.com/video/1189409/magnetic-fitness-demonstration/)
>
> It's a demonstration of the use of magnets to improve balance and
> flexibility for sportspeople. The products used are from Nikken I
think and
> are
> bi-polar. You will notice for the flexibility section they use
rotating
> magnets.
> It's a bit rambling, but worth watching.
>
> >>>>>>>I've read on the ormus group--and a few sites--that putting
n/s/n/s
> poles on
> a blender to spin water makes good water. And yet in Peter's book
and other
> sites it says using only a negative pole is best. Somehow, again
for me
> only, this just makes more sense. If the north/negative side is more
> healing--as I believe--then it would only make sense to use just
the one
> pole for making mag water, too.
>
> If that was the case, the Antarctic would be much healthier than
the
> Arctic. Or is it vice versa. Doesn't seem to be..
>
> You have found north pole is best for you, but bipolar has shown to
work
> well for millions who have bought the commercial products.
>
> It might make more sense, but magnetic treatments are still not
understood
> and there is evidence to suggest that multipolar techniques are
more
> effective. For water, what is needed is a strong field and a
turbulent flow.
>
> If
> you don't have a turbulent flow, you need to create a turbulent
field for
> the
> water to flow through, ie the 'chaos' of nsns
> I use an nsn magnet on the water pipe as it enters the house and an
nsn
> coaster that I stand drinks on.
>
> >>>>>What I'm curious about is why you would say one pole use would
be
> better for
> a therapist to use, while bipolar is safer for a layman? What would
be
> unsafe for a layman to use as one pole?
>
> I'm being polite to the magnet therapists. There are several
schools that
> will train and certify you as a magnetic therapist. They obviously
believe
> you need training and they advocate north pole techniques.
> On the other hand, the bipolar manufacturers say just put their
wristband,
> etc on and that's all it needs.
>
> >>>>>It seems to me that nowhere does any site or book say that
magnets are
> unsafe to use. Simply that using the wrong side can make the pain
increase,
> which can be easily reversed by switching poles. Do you feel there's
> something else going on?
>
> If you look back through the archives here, you will see some
posters saying
>
> that S poles can cause cancer. I don't believe this is true, and
there is
> no evidence to support this.
> You will also see that many sites say don't use magnets on open
wounds or in
>
> pregnancy.
> But there are studies that indicate magnotherapy works well for
both of
> these.
>
> We are just coming out of the 'old wives tales' era of
magnotherapy, and
> some of the 'tales' are wrong and some are true.
> Find something that works for you and stick with it until it stops
working.
> Changes in body chemistry can reduce the efficacy of magnotherapy
so you may
>
>
> need to change your approach at some future date.
>
> But if you want to be your own therapist I suggest using
commercially
> available products. You will pay more, but they will have been
field-tested
> by
> thousands/millions of people.
>
> Best wishes
> John
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In a message dated 21/01/2009 10:26:48 GMT Standard Time,
com1@... writes:

>>>>>So from my research and applications, I would not  use a de-powered
bi-polar
or multipolar system, but instead would make  sure  to use the most powerful
system to get soft water. Then applying  the Negative only on the faucets at
the end of the system where they can  provide the Negative water – great for
you, but placed so its  hardwater-making-field is not damaging the piping.



I accept this is your belief based on your experience, but my experience  and
research indicates to me that something else is going on.
And that multipole magnets seem more effective than single pole.

I think we will have to wait for independent research to show us what is
happening.

Nest wishes

John


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Ok Renee,



You definitely need an engineered system over that of the basic home of cold
in and hot out.  If there is an acre of travel and you are concerned about
the scaling taking place in the main supply pipe to the house, then you will
need to put the system on pipe coming out of the well.



Then another one on the cold going into the house because a lot of the
charge will be given up to the hardwater in the supply pipe and the laminar
effect of the distance - water moves through the center of the pipe with a
lot of eddy currents along the pipe's internal surface which creates
vibrational depolarization - simply a loss of charge. As the charge goes
down, so does the de-scaling characteristic.



Then there is thermal de-polarization - literally the loss of charge through
heating water - which means the water needs to be re-energized if you want
complete soft water at each location, you will need to put a system on the
exit side of each water heater.



Peter



From: magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Gaiacita
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 6:55 PM
To: magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [magnotherapy] Mag water question--again



Hey Peter. Soooo--one for hot water and one for cold water. Hmmm but my
home is set up a bit different. Naturally the line coming in (from an acre
away) from the well would be cold water. But once in the house our house is
laid out so that there's a hot water heater for the bathroom/clothes washer,
then a hot water heater in the kitchen for the sink (not a tall hot water
heater, a short fat one, regular tank water heater and not one of those
instant heaters--as I said, house is strange) and then there's another tank
hot water heater in my Dad's part of the house.

The house is large, therefore kind of divided up. We did not do this--it
was like this when we bought the place.

The 3 water heaters only heat for their own purpose. The main bathroom one
only goes to the bathroom sink and shower--we have no tub, and the clothes
washer--this is all about 25 to 30 feet away from the heater. The kitchen
one only goes to the kitchen sink and the dishwasher--the heater is right
next to, under the sink area. Dad's heater goes to his shower (no tub) and
bathroom sink and his kitchen sink--all very close to the heater.

So--how would your Hardwater Softener system work for this? I am guessing
one cold water super magnets for the main line (which would include all cold
water to everywhere in the house and yard) and then 3 separate hot water
magnets? Ummm--expensive?

Oh--as your system is not mentioned on your web site, perhaps you want to
quote a price here in case others are interested for their house?

The set up I saw at a home show had basically just 2 neo mags running on the
cold intake line. They told me that was enough to do the whole house, hot
water and all, but then they didn't know about my unusual house set up.
But it's been a number of years since I saw that, so can't remember the cost
It was when the water line magnets was just becoming popular and most
resellers probably didn't know about needing super strength magnets.

Samala,
Renee

-------Original Message-------

We have a super Rare-Earth Hardwater Softener System that comes with a Super

Energizer for the cold line and one for the hot line. It takes a two unit
system to do the home. Anything less really does not work.




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John,



AS the founder and researcher who established the original patented monopole
clamp-on system, I want to clarify one comment – the Positive pole reduces
surface tension, the requirement needed to hydrate and dissolve previously
formed scale. Reducing the surface tension increases the water’s softness
which allows a higher mineral content to remain in the water which keeping
the minerals like the calcium water salt dissolved and suspended rather than
the higher surface tension of hardwater which push the minerals out to
nucleate and form the scale which is the one of the major problems of
hardwater as it deteriorates the plumbing and appliances. Reduces surface
tension also gives all the washing and bathing characteristics of soft
water.



The Negative pole decreases surface tension making the water harder. We have
used it on big industrial ponds to precipitate (to drop it out of the water)
material including hardwater minerals. It works great.



The Negative pole – excellent for the human in providing non-associative
structured water – so important in immediately increasing the Negative Zeta
potential supporting the immediate natural increase in electromotive
cellular vitality through the highest state of naturally increased cellular
hydration. When mixed with the Positive pole [in a bi-polar or multipolar
manner]in a magnetic water softener, unless the final [exit imprinting] pole
is completely positive which is a major trick in design and usually only
done to try to get the monopole effect on the water without infringing on
the patent, usually reduces the positive charge required to completely
overcome the harder type waters. From a measurement point of view, mixing
the two poles in one conditioner only gives one-half (½) the power.



So from my research and applications, I would not use a de-powered bi-polar
or multipolar system, but instead would make sure  to use the most powerful
system to get soft water. Then applying the Negative only on the faucets at
the end of the system where they can provide the Negative water – great for
you, but placed so its hardwater-making-field is not damaging the piping.





Peter Kulish, Senior Science Director

Foundation for Magnetic Science

Founder BiomagScience

com1@...

www.BiomagScience.net <http://www.biomagscience.com/>





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From: magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of JBainSI@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 1:51 AM
To: magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [magnotherapy] Mag water question--again




In a message dated 20/01/2009 23:55:42 GMT Standard Time, gaiacita@...
<mailto:gaiacita%40gmail.com>
writes:

The set up I saw at a home show had basically just 2 neo mags running on the
cold intake line. They told me that was enough to do the whole house, hot
water and all, but then they didn't know about my unusual house set up.
But it's been a number of years since I saw that, so can't remember the cost
It was when the water line magnets was just becoming popular and most
resellers probably didn't know about needing super strength magnets.

First, neodymium magnets are still the strongest magnets available, size for

size.

Second, many manufacturers of magnetic water conditioners use multiple pole
systems. The theory is that you need both turbulence and a strong magnetic
field to properly treat water for limescale. Multi-pole systems provide a
turbulent magnetic field.

Third, you are the only judge of what works for your house, but if a tap
isn't providing you the results you require, it's fairly easy to added
another
unit to that line.

Fourth, there is so far no proof that magnetic treatment method A works
better than matgnetic treatment method B. The 'experts' who post here, and
I'm
one of them http://sound-ideas.info just know their own systems work and
theorise from that. No-one has published rigorous proof, so you have to make

up your own mind.

So if you are buying a commercially made system, get a good money back
guarantee, if if it doesn't work for your application, get your money back
and try
again. There are plenty of success stories so it can be done.

Or buy neodymium magnets in pairs, strap them round your pipes and see what
happens. As you have seen, Peter uses both S and N magnets on the same
water line. So do I, the only difference is that mine are in the same
module,

Best wishes
John
MarvellousMagnets.com

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In a message dated 20/01/2009 23:55:42 GMT Standard Time,  gaiacita@...
writes:

The set  up I saw at a home show had basically just 2 neo mags running on the
cold  intake line.  They told me that was enough to do the whole house,  hot
water and all, but then they didn't know about my unusual house set  up.
But it's been a number of years since I saw that, so can't  remember the cost
It was when the water line magnets was just  becoming popular and most
resellers probably didn't know about needing  super strength magnets.



First, neodymium magnets are still the strongest magnets available, size  for
size.

Second, many manufacturers of magnetic water conditioners use multiple pole
systems.   The theory is that you need both turbulence and a strong  magnetic
field to properly treat water for limescale.  Multi-pole systems  provide a
turbulent magnetic field.

Third, you are the only judge of what works for your house, but if a tap
isn't providing you the results you require, it's fairly easy to added another
unit to that line.

Fourth, there is so far no proof that magnetic treatment method A  works
better than matgnetic treatment method B.   The 'experts' who  post here, and
I'm
one of them  http://sound-ideas.info  just  know their own systems work and
theorise from that.  No-one has published  rigorous proof, so you have to make
up your own mind.

So if you are buying a commercially made system, get a good money back
guarantee, if if it doesn't work for your application, get your money back and 
try
again.  There are plenty of success stories so it can be done.

Or buy neodymium magnets in pairs, strap them round your pipes and see what
happens.   As you have seen, Peter uses both S and N magnets on the  same
water line.  So do I, the only difference is that mine are in the same  module,

Best wishes
John
MarvellousMagnets.com


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Yeah, reading about the new stove was so interesting--like a whole new way
to cook!  I thought "how cool", but--if it does what microwaves do, well--I
no longer have a microwave.  Sigh is right.  I'm kind of tired of finding
out all the good things aren't good anymore.

Samala,
Renee

-------Original Message-------

Everything fast/quick/easy has a downside?


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Sigh....
everything fast/quick/easy has a downside?

Thanks for the response, Peter. Induction cooking 'appears' to be the "greatest
thing since sliced bread". But, if one more burner dies, I won't be able to
replace this anyway---$$$!

Sharon



> Probably. Using the same electromotive process often reduces nutritional
> value.
>
> Peter
>

>
> How odd. I wonder if they (these magnetic stoves) destroy nutrition like a
> microwave does? I had always understood this was due to the type of waves
> coming from the microwave into the food. But they never said it was because
> of the magnetic aspect of the waves--more of them being radio waves.
>
> Curiouser and curiouser
> Renee
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> Pardon the delay Sharon, I looked it up and apparently it works in the same
> manner that microwave ovens work. It will imprint and leave a positive
> charge as it work by electromagnetic pulses which have to be
> positive/negative many times a second.

Hey Peter.  Soooo--one for hot water and one for cold water.  Hmmm  but my
home is set up a bit different.  Naturally the line coming in (from an acre
away) from the well would be cold water.  But once in the house our house is
laid out so that there's a hot water heater for the bathroom/clothes washer,
then a hot water heater in the kitchen for the sink (not a tall hot water
heater, a short fat one, regular tank water heater and not one of those
instant heaters--as I said, house is strange) and then there's another tank
hot water heater in my Dad's part of the house.

The house is large, therefore kind of divided up.  We did not do this--it
was like this when we bought the place.

The 3 water heaters only heat for their own purpose.  The main bathroom one
only goes to the bathroom sink and shower--we have no tub, and the clothes
washer--this is all about 25 to 30 feet away from the heater.  The kitchen
one only goes to the kitchen sink and the dishwasher--the heater is right
next to, under the sink area.  Dad's heater goes to his shower (no tub) and
bathroom sink and his kitchen sink--all very close to the heater.

So--how would your Hardwater Softener system work for this?  I am guessing
one cold water super magnets for the main line (which would include all cold
water to everywhere in the house and yard) and then 3 separate hot water
magnets?  Ummm--expensive?

Oh--as your system is not mentioned on your web site, perhaps you want to
quote a price here in case others are interested for their house?

The set up I saw at a home show had basically just 2 neo mags running on the
cold intake line.  They told me that was enough to do the whole house, hot
water and all, but then they didn't know about my unusual house set up.
But it's been a number of years since I saw that, so can't remember the cost
   It was when the water line magnets was just becoming popular and most
resellers probably didn't know about needing super strength magnets.

Samala,
Renee

-------Original Message-------

We have a super Rare-Earth Hardwater Softener System that comes with a Super
Energizer for the cold line and one for the hot line. It takes a two unit
system to do the home. Anything less really does not work.




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:-)  yep!

Samala

-------Original Message-------


we would make great partners.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Thanks for your input Peter.  I need to buy from inside the UK as it is
too expensive to import from abroad but thanks anyway for the
recommendation and thanks also for the info on testing the magnets.

Kerry


> -----Original Message-----
> From: magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kulish
> Sent: 19 January 2009 16:31
> To: magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [magnotherapy] purchasing magnets
>
> Of course I always like to stick my two cents in  because it is
important to
> make sure the poles are correct either by using a magnetometer or
using a
> compass to make sure the true North is being used. Most people do not
have a
> magnetometer to identify True North or what is called the Negative
> electromotive pole which increases the Negative Zeta healing energy of
the
> body. It is important to make sure the magnets are marked correctly
because
> I have seen many of them marked backwards using the Engineering Mark
rather
> than the Medical Mark, which means that you will get the Positive Pole
which
> creates stress, an acid condition and has shown to elevate cancer
growth -
> so it is something to be careful when getting the magnets from a
source and
> to make sure to test them:
>
>
>
>
>
> Peter
>

Thanks Renee.  I shall have a search as soon as I have time.

Kerry

> -----Original Message-----
> From: magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gaiacita
> Sent: 19 January 2009 16:11
> To: magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [magnotherapy] purchasing magnets
>
> If you go through the back messages in the group, you will see a post
from
> me about testing with a compass, and some from other people.
>
> Sounds like a good price to me.  Maybe someone else will have some
ideas on
> good places to buy outside the US, and the strength of the magnets for
that
> size.
>
> Samala,
> Renee
>

Probably. Using the same electromotive process often reduces nutritional
value.

Peter



From: magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Gaiacita
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:36 AM
To: magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [magnotherapy] The electric range



How odd. I wonder if they (these magnetic stoves) destroy nutrition like a
microwave does? I had always understood this was due to the type of waves
coming from the microwave into the food. But they never said it was because
of the magnetic aspect of the waves--more of them being radio waves.

Curiouser and curiouser
Renee

-------Original Message-------

Pardon the delay Sharon, I looked it up and apparently it works in the same
manner that microwave ovens work. It will imprint and leave a positive
charge as it work by electromagnetic pulses which have to be
positive/negative many times a second.

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Renee,



The best performing set-up is the Positive for the home to keep the pipes
and water appliances running without the hardwater and scaling problem.
These systems require flux drivers plates and powerful magnets that focus
the energy into the water elevating it as much a 900-1100 millivolts over
its negative hardwater measuremeant. Our Water Jar Energizers simply are not
powerful enough to give that kind of charge to make sure the water goes
soft.



We have a super Rare-Earth Hardwater Softener System that comes with a Super
Energizer for the cold line and one for the hot line. It takes a two unit
system to do the home. Anything less really does not work.



Peter



From: magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Gaiacita
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:31 AM
To: magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [magnotherapy] Mag water question--again



Hey Peter--yes, that would be great. I'd love some positive magnets for
this. If this is possible, what I'd also like to do is add the positive
magnets on the pipes coming out of my well, so that all the water that runs
through the pipes would be positive and help keep the pipes clean (hot water
heater too) and then put negative right at the drinking/bathing faucets.
Would this be a good set up?


Samala,
Renee

-------Original Message-------

You can start with Positive water on the top of the unit as explained and
then change it to Negative just before it comes out. It changes that easily
and should take care of the line buildup. If you want Positive Water Jar
Magnetizers reversed for this, we can do.


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Well, then let's just ask Peter to post to the whole group, in case there
are others that are interested in the positive magnets.

I bought the full kit from him a few months ago, and then BioMag had the
half price Christmas sale and I snapped up another kit.  Basically because I
d already given a few of the kit magnets to my brother to take home and put
on his bad hip.  So I figure at the sale price (that is still going on, by
the way--if you subscribe to the newsletter) it was a good idea to buy
another kit.  This way you get everything--the book and a good supply of
magnets, for cheaper than buying a couple sets of just the magnets.  Now if
both my husband and I need magnets at the same time, we have them.  No
waiting in line.  :-)

Samala,
Renee

-------Original Message-------


when u get that info from peter, will u share it with us?


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yes, this is my forte...and u are the most helpful, informed person about
such a variety of things that i know.

we would make great partners.

On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Gaiacita <gaiacita@...> wrote:

>   Well, this is certainly interesting! And you are certainly the fastest
> researcher I know. :-)
>
> Samala,
> Renee--who wants to see one of these stoves now!
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> http://www.thetartan.org/2006/2/27/scitech/howthingswork
>
> i love your curiosities!
>
>
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>
>
>



--
"Let the beauty we love be what we do. There are hundreds of ways to kneel
and kiss the ground." - Rumi

"And forget not that the Earth delights to feel your bare feet and the winds
long to play with your hair." Kahlil Gibran


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Well, this is certainly interesting!  And you are certainly the fastest
researcher I know.  :-)

Samala,
Renee--who wants to see one of these stoves now!

-------Original Message-------

http://www.thetartan.org/2006/2/27/scitech/howthingswork

i love your curiosities!


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hey renee,

when u get that info from peter, will u share it with us?

diana, who also wants to know!

--- In magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com, "Gaiacita" <gaiacita@...> wrote:
>
> Great info, Peter.  Thanks.  So--I DO need both types of water mags.
  I will
> want positive water on my garden.  I'll get in touch with you off
line about
> the positive water mags, and how many I will need.
>
> Samala,
> Renee
>
> -------Original Message-------
>  I use one Negative on the sink faucet in the kitchen, but FYI, we
also make
> Positive water for the plants as the Negative makes them very green,
but the
> slows their growth down quite a bit - really speeds up with
Positive. We use
> a double set around the bathtub faucet as it is much larger and a
single on
> the shower which has a smaller line.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

http://www.thetartan.org/2006/2/27/scitech/howthingswork

i love your curiosities!

--- In magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com, "Gaiacita" <gaiacita@...> wrote:
>
> OK--now I'm curious.  I've never heard of magnetic induction stoves
before.
> Do tell--what makes them different than regular stoves???  How do they
> work???
>
> Samala,
> Renee
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
>
> Peter, do you know of any effect from cooking with magnetic induction?
> Of course, it's still basically powered by electricity.
> With this manner of cooking one can only use pots and pans that are
magnetic
>  like stainless steel and cast iron.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

How odd.  I wonder if they (these magnetic stoves) destroy nutrition like a
microwave does?  I had always understood this was due to the type of waves
coming from the microwave into the food.  But they never said it was because
of the magnetic aspect of the waves--more of them being radio waves.

Curiouser and curiouser
Renee

-------Original Message-------

Pardon the delay Sharon, I looked it up and apparently it works in the same
manner that microwave ovens work. It will imprint and leave a positive
charge as it work by electromagnetic pulses which have to be
positive/negative many times a second.

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Great info, Peter.  Thanks.  So--I DO need both types of water mags.  I will
want positive water on my garden.  I'll get in touch with you off line about
the positive water mags, and how many I will need.

Samala,
Renee

-------Original Message-------
  I use one Negative on the sink faucet in the kitchen, but FYI, we also make
Positive water for the plants as the Negative makes them very green, but the
slows their growth down quite a bit - really speeds up with Positive. We use
a double set around the bathtub faucet as it is much larger and a single on
the shower which has a smaller line.



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Hey Peter--yes, that would be great.  I'd love some positive magnets for
this.  If this is possible, what I'd also like to do is add the positive
magnets on the pipes coming out of my well, so that all the water that runs
through the pipes would be positive and help keep the pipes clean (hot water
heater too) and then put negative right at the drinking/bathing faucets.
Would this be a good set up?


Samala,
Renee

-------Original Message-------

You can start with Positive water on the top of the unit as explained and
then change it to Negative just before it comes out. It changes that easily
and should take care of the line buildup. If you want Positive Water Jar
Magnetizers reversed for this, we can do.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

OK--now I'm curious.  I've never heard of magnetic induction stoves before.
Do tell--what makes them different than regular stoves???  How do they
work???

Samala,
Renee

-------Original Message-------


Peter, do you know of any effect from cooking with magnetic induction?
Of course, it's still basically powered by electricity.
With this manner of cooking one can only use pots and pans that are magnetic
  like stainless steel and cast iron.


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Pardon the delay Sharon, I looked it up and apparently it works in the same
manner that microwave ovens work. It will imprint and leave a positive
charge as it work by electromagnetic pulses which have to be
positive/negative many times a second. A quick read indicates that it also
puts out a fairly strong pulsed external field - but I cannot be particular
about how much as I have not measured it.



For food cooked on it, I would be doing the same as an electric range -
taking a moment and running the Negative side of the magnet closely over the
food to imprint the correct energy into the food - if that is what you want.




If you are interested and a Newsletter Subscriber, www.BiomagScience.net has
extended its New Year's sale and you can get a pair of Water Jar Energizers
[which are a great size for everything we have been discussing] at 50% off.
If you are not a subscriber - sign up.



If you need these WJEs with the positive side out, you will need to call
215-862-6777 to special order and they can easily be made up.



Best,

Peter



From: magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Starshar
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 10:42 PM
To: magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [magnotherapy] The electric range



That just brought up a question!
I still have 3 burners working on my old (no longer made my GE, and no parts
available) Magnetic Induction Range. I love this stove top to pieces!

Peter, do you know of any effect from cooking with magnetic induction?
Of course, it's still basically powered by electricity.
With this manner of cooking one can only use pots and pans that are
magnetic, like stainless steel and cast iron.

Just curious,

Sharon (drinking mag water with the Water Jar Energizers, wearing mags on
the sternum)

>I guess I had better read more thoroughly. The polarity remains constant
> until the water loses it energy - but when is that? It should be pointed
out
> that heating anything (water or food) on an electric range will prompt a
> positive charge into the water/food from the AC current which gives off a
> positive charge - what we do around here is to take our Water Jar Magnet
and
> run the negative side over the food, soup or boiled liquid. We also use
the
> Water Jar Energizer magnets on our spigot in the kitchen (for neg water)
and
> in the bathroom for brushing the teeth and taking baths which give quite a
> luxurious feeling and even more calming than a natural bath.
>
>
>
> Peter





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I use one Negative on the sink faucet in the kitchen, but FYI, we also make
Positive water for the plants as the Negative makes them very green, but the
slows their growth down quite a bit - really speeds up with Positive. We use
a double set around the bathtub faucet as it is much larger and a single on
the shower which has a smaller line.



From: magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Gaiacita
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 5:09 PM
To: magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [magnotherapy] Mag water question--again



Sigh--I lied. One more question about mag water, now that you have brought
it up. :-)

Is one of your magnets on a water line enough? Most of the line magnets I
have read about put 2 on a line, opposite each other. Your mags are so
strong I'm hoping one per line would be enough--like you say, one in the
kitchen, one in the bath. I could order another set.

Oh! I just thought of something. I've purchased a seed sprouter that has a
hook up to a faucet for automatic watering. Seems like this would be a
great faucet to put the magnets on so that the seeds get the best water!
Would one of yours be enough?

Samala,
Renee

-------Original Message-------

Energizer magnets on our spigot in the kitchen (for neg water) and
in the bathroom for brushing the teeth and taking baths which give quite a
luxurious feeling and even more calming than a natural bath.



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You can start with Positive water on the top of the unit as explained and
then change it to Negative just before it comes out. It changes that easily
and should take care of the line buildup. If you want Positive Water Jar
Magnetizers reversed for this, we can do.

Peter



From: magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Gaiacita
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 4:57 PM
To: magnotherapy@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [magnotherapy] Mag water question--again



Great. I was thinking it might, but wasn't sure.

Ok--one more question about mag water and then I'll quit--I promise!

I've got a Berkey Lite. Holds 3 gallon in the top, with 3 really good
charcoal filters, that drip the water through to the bottom.

We have very hard lime water. When my Dad was sick I didn't empty and fill
the Berkey like normal (we usually empty it once a day) so the water sat in
the top part for about 2 weeks. Because the Berkey works via gravity feed,
there's always about an inch and a half of water left in the top. When you
add water that "old" water gets forced out, so there's always "fresh" water
sitting.

But because I let that bit of water sit for 2 weeks, the lime just coated
the filters so badly they could barely drip water.

I have soaked them in vinegar and gotten most of the lime off, so they are
dripping strongly again.

But--my question. I know you have said that the positive pole is good for
the pipes, but not people. And I think you have said that the switch
between magnetic water poles is fast. So--would it be a good thing to buy
some cheap magnets and put the positive face towards the water on the upper
part of the Berkey (to keep the lime from building up again) and leave your
strong magnets on the bottom for having negative water to drink? It would
switch poles that fast, as the water fills up past the magnets on the bottom
part to switch the positive water back to negative water?

Thanks Peter.

Samala,
Renee

-------Original Message-------
If the water is boiled for a while, it will lose its voltage - the magnetic
effect, but boiling it and using it right away does not lose much of the
effect.



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That just brought up a question!
I still have 3 burners working on my old (no longer made my GE, and no parts
available) Magnetic Induction Range. I love this stove top to pieces!

Peter, do you know of any effect from cooking with magnetic induction?
Of course, it's still basically powered by electricity.
With this manner of cooking one can only use pots and pans that are magnetic,
like stainless steel and cast iron.

Just curious,

Sharon (drinking mag water with the Water Jar Energizers, wearing mags on the
sternum)


>I guess I had better read more thoroughly. The polarity remains constant
> until the water loses it energy - but when is that? It should be pointed out
> that heating anything (water or food) on an electric range will prompt a
> positive charge into the water/food from the AC current which gives off a
> positive charge - what we do around here is to take our Water Jar Magnet and
> run the negative side over the food, soup or boiled liquid. We also use the
> Water Jar Energizer magnets on our spigot in the kitchen (for neg water) and
> in the bathroom for brushing the teeth and taking baths which give quite a
> luxurious feeling and even more calming than a natural bath.
>
>
>
> Peter

Sigh--I lied.  One more question about mag water, now that you have brought
it up.  :-)

Is one of your magnets on a water line enough?  Most of the line magnets I
have read about put 2 on a line, opposite each other. Your mags are so
strong I'm hoping one per line would be enough--like you say, one in the
kitchen, one in the bath.  I could order another set.

Oh!  I just thought of something.  I've purchased a seed sprouter that has a
hook up to a faucet for automatic watering.  Seems like this would be a
great faucet to put the magnets on so that the seeds get the best water!
Would one of yours be enough?

Samala,
Renee

-------Original Message-------

Energizer magnets on our spigot in the kitchen (for neg water) and
in the bathroom for brushing the teeth and taking baths which give quite a
luxurious feeling and even more calming than a natural bath.



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Great.  I was thinking it might, but wasn't sure.

Ok--one more question about mag water and then I'll quit--I promise!

I've got a Berkey Lite.  Holds 3 gallon in the top, with 3 really good
charcoal filters, that drip the water through to the bottom.

We have very hard lime water.  When my Dad was sick I didn't empty and fill
the Berkey like normal (we usually empty it once a day) so the water sat in
the top part for about 2 weeks.  Because the Berkey works via gravity feed,
there's always about an inch and a half of water left in the top.  When you
add water that "old" water gets forced out, so there's always "fresh" water
sitting.

But because I let that bit of water sit for 2 weeks, the lime just coated
the filters so badly they could barely drip water.

I have soaked them in vinegar and gotten most of the lime off, so they are
dripping strongly again.

But--my question.  I know you have said that the positive pole is good for
the pipes, but not people.  And I think you have said that the switch
between magnetic water poles is fast.  So--would it be a good thing to buy
some cheap magnets and put the positive face towards the water on the upper
part of the Berkey (to keep the lime from building up again) and leave your
strong magnets on the bottom for having negative water to drink?  It would
switch poles that fast, as the water fills up past the magnets on the bottom
part to switch the positive water back to negative water?

Thanks Peter.

Samala,
Renee

-------Original Message-------
If the water is boiled for a while, it will lose its voltage - the magnetic
effect, but boiling it and using it right away does not lose much of the
effect.



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yeah, i was wondering the same thing...just yesterday.  like minds!

On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Gaiacita <gaiacita@...> wrote:

>   :-) worth the postage. I love it.
>
>
> Anyway,--my question about the magnetic water. Does it effect the field if
> mag water is heated? Like, if I want to make a hot drink and use the water
> from my Berkey that has the magnets on it. If that water is heated, does it
> change anything about polarity? I know I could make the hot drink, and then
> put a magnet on the cup, but wonder about heating pre-magnetized water.
>
> Samala,
> Renee
>
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>
>
>



--
"Let the beauty we love be what we do. There are hundreds of ways to kneel
and kiss the ground." - Rumi

"And forget not that the Earth delights to feel your bare feet and the winds
long to play with your hair." Kahlil Gibran


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