angel,
you mentioned that you were also on CS...what is that?
thanks.
sharon

On Jul 1, 2005, at 2:26 AM, LymeAngl@... wrote:

> Hello wpswallace@...,
>
> In reference to your comment:
>
> è The rumour is that some of his trial patients have
> è relapsed on  Samento protocol.  PROTOCOL FOR
> è LYME BORRELIOSIS  From Wm. Lee Cowden, MD
>
>  ********In February 2003 when my Homeopathic MD put me on Samento, he
> told me then that Samento would not do it alone.....I'm not on 30
> drops, 3 times daily....
>
>  Angel Huggzz
>  Linda or Angel
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Hi Angel,

LOL!!! Oooohhh, my face hurts I am laughing so much!!!  Yes, that is
WAY more like it.  I have been laughing, crying, in high anxiety and
supremely happy all in the space of a 12 hour day, today. Fu Manchu
is exactly right!! I only wish it were an eight second ride!!  We
need to make up T-Shirts that say, "Getting Over Lyme--If it Were Any
Easier, they Would Call It Bull Riding!!!"

CJ

-- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, LymeAngl@a... wrote:
> Hello jillallen@c...,
>
> In reference to your comment:
>
> è Hope you have the wisdom to follow us on the path out
> è of Lyme.
>
> ******Dontcha mean "wisdom to ride with us on Fu ManChu on the path
out???
> ROFLAMOOOOOOOOooo
>
> Angel Huggzzz
> Linda or angel
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Lyme Angel,

What a terrific champion you are being for Beth!!  It is so great she
has someone who knows the ropes and is strong for her when she is
feeling so ill.

Many thanks from all of us on the board.

CJ


--- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, LymeAngl@a... wrote:
> Hello bvegh@c...,
>
> In reference to your comment:
>
> è prone to blood sugar highs and lows
>
> *******Keep in mind that chemo therapy patients are prone to blood
sugar
> highs and lows.....What an IDIOT to make this determination WITHOUT
a fasting or a
> 5hr glucose tolerance test???  We found, and this was years ago,
that a 3 or
> 4 hr glucose fasting test did not give you the "true" curve....a
five hour is
> needed, however most doctors don't require one as it is much easier
to put the
> burden on the patient.
>
> ******Beth.....I'm sorry dear and this is personal and you don't
have to
> answer it, but what is your weight?  Given the use of chemo, having
lyme disease,
> and a few other factors should be taken into consideration NOT just
making a
> determination like he did???????  Damn military docs make me
LIVID.....
>
> *******PLUS, thank God he had you come in, but unfortunately he was
only
> trying to cover his own ass!!!  He should be dealing with the Lymph
edema first
> and foremost, then have several FASTING blood chemistries done,
before making
> any decision.  The pill he is giving you is actually quiet safe
from what I know
> about it, BUT there are many more things that need to be done
> here.....GRRRRRRRRRRRRrrr
>
> ********Do you mind if I ask you your age?  How long has your hubby
been in
> military?  What is his rank?  What is he saying about all this????
>
> *******You need to be keeping a DAILY journal and get copies of ALL
your
> records and tests.....the military is very good about loosing
records.....BY LAW,
> they have to give you copies....make sure you get them as they
happen.....
>
> Angel Huggzz
> Linda or Angel
>
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> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PhotonGenieElectromedicine/
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Hi Helen,
Great news about Patrick.  May I please have your permission to forward your
email to my Aussie Lyme contacts?
Warmest regards,
Rosemary.

-----Original Message-----
From: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com [mailto:lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of patmom7
Sent: Friday, 1 July 2005 9:21 AM
To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [lymestrategies] Patrick's 5 month progress report

Hello everyone,
   For those of you who remember me, I have only posted a few times
about my 8 yr old son Patrick, who has suffered from moderate to
severe knee joint pains for the past three years. (He never tested
positive for lyme but did have an engorged deer tick at 14 months
old, and we lived in a highly endemnic area for LD)
   Well, he started on Salt/C in February this year and worked up to 5
grams of each per day(usually). At first I really wondered whether it
would do much for him, and to tell you the truth, we didn't change
much diet-wise, etc. except to add the salt and C.(still it must be
better to add more of the adjuncts..)

    He did not seem to have much of a reaction, no creepy crawlies to
speak of ,and only one time did I see evidence of "bites," which I
just about chalked up to heat rash.  But we kept going and I can
really say that his pains are coming less and less frequently, less
intense, less duration.This was especially the case when we switched
from a buffered C (calcium ascorbate) to a regular chewable ascorbic
acid.Also we started using Krystal salt.

   He's practically behaving like a normal kid! He who cried with
tears for hours almost every day and had to be removed from school.

   It's absolutely a miracle and an answer to our prayers to have
found this protocol, and I thank God daily.  I know Patrick's maybe
not quite out of the woods yet, but we can sure see the light at the
end of the tunnel. And we intend to keep up the fight.

   Please, please, be patient, those of you who may think salt/c is
not doing the job, and this is really hard for a parent of a young
child.  But I simply could not accept that he would have to go on
antibiotics for the rest of his life!

    Thanks so much for all your support. I read your posts and share
your victories. We CAN defeat this disease!
God bless you all,

Helen
(Patmom7)




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with regards to Lyme Strategies is research only on an ongoing basis for
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THANKS HELEN  This is what motivates me to stay on track !! NO OTHER
PROTOCOL  HAS SO MANY SUCCESS STORIES.   MICHAEL LYONS
> Hello everyone,
>   For those of you who remember me, I have only posted a few times
> about my 8 yr old son Patrick, who has suffered from moderate to
> severe knee joint pains for the past three years. (He never tested
> positive for lyme but did have an engorged deer tick at 14 months
> old, and we lived in a highly endemnic area for LD)
>
>   Well, he started on Salt/C in February this year and worked up
to 5
> grams of each per day(usually). At first I really wondered whether
it
> would do much for him, and to tell you the truth, we didn't change
> much diet-wise, etc. except to add the salt and C.(still it must
be
> better to add more of the adjuncts..)
>
>    He did not seem to have much of a reaction, no creepy crawlies
to
> speak of ,and only one time did I see evidence of "bites," which I
> just about chalked up to heat rash.  But we kept going and I can
> really say that his pains are coming less and less frequently,
less
> intense, less duration.This was especially the case when we
switched
> from a buffered C (calcium ascorbate) to a regular chewable
ascorbic
> acid.Also we started using Krystal salt.
>
>   He's practically behaving like a normal kid! He who cried with
> tears for hours almost every day and had to be removed from school.
>
>   It's absolutely a miracle and an answer to our prayers to have
> found this protocol, and I thank God daily.  I know Patrick's
maybe
> not quite out of the woods yet, but we can sure see the light at
the
> end of the tunnel. And we intend to keep up the fight.
>
>   Please, please, be patient, those of you who may think salt/c is
> not doing the job, and this is really hard for a parent of a young
> child.  But I simply could not accept that he would have to go on
> antibiotics for the rest of his life!
>
>    Thanks so much for all your support. I read your posts and
share
> your victories. We CAN defeat this disease!
> God bless you all,
>
> Helen
> (Patmom7)

Thank you for taking time to share Patrick's progress.  We pray that
he has broken the back of this disease and is well on his way to
leaving LD in the dust.  I'll especially pray that any remaining
herxing will be easily tolerable for his young body.

We are happy for you to be putting the days of his tears behind you
both.  In the words of one radio talk show mom, "Mothers would
rather crawl through broken glass before seeing their children hurt."

God's blessing to you both....Diane

--- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "patmom7" <hkashiwa@s...>
wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>   For those of you who remember me, I have only posted a few times
> about my 8 yr old son Patrick, who has suffered from moderate to
> severe knee joint pains for the past three years. (He never tested
> positive for lyme but did have an engorged deer tick at 14 months
> old, and we lived in a highly endemnic area for LD)
>
>   Well, he started on Salt/C in February this year and worked up
to 5
> grams of each per day(usually). At first I really wondered whether
it
> would do much for him, and to tell you the truth, we didn't change
> much diet-wise, etc. except to add the salt and C.(still it must
be
> better to add more of the adjuncts..)
>
>    He did not seem to have much of a reaction, no creepy crawlies
to
> speak of ,and only one time did I see evidence of "bites," which I
> just about chalked up to heat rash.  But we kept going and I can
> really say that his pains are coming less and less frequently,
less
> intense, less duration.This was especially the case when we
switched
> from a buffered C (calcium ascorbate) to a regular chewable
ascorbic
> acid.Also we started using Krystal salt.
>
>   He's practically behaving like a normal kid! He who cried with
> tears for hours almost every day and had to be removed from school.
>
>   It's absolutely a miracle and an answer to our prayers to have
> found this protocol, and I thank God daily.  I know Patrick's
maybe
> not quite out of the woods yet, but we can sure see the light at
the
> end of the tunnel. And we intend to keep up the fight.
>
>   Please, please, be patient, those of you who may think salt/c is
> not doing the job, and this is really hard for a parent of a young
> child.  But I simply could not accept that he would have to go on
> antibiotics for the rest of his life!
>
>    Thanks so much for all your support. I read your posts and
share
> your victories. We CAN defeat this disease!
> God bless you all,
>
> Helen
> (Patmom7)

GOD BLESS YOU, HELEN.  Nothing is harder on a parent than seeing
their child suffer.  :-(   You have special help from God to be
strong when your child suffers.  Knowing this illness and what it
does to a person, my support goes out to you.  I have a 22 year old
who has lived with his father during my illness..  And when I see
him, I keep telling him, "Stay our of the forests and bushes."  He
says with a sigh, "I know, Mom."  I think that it would be hard to
bear if he got bit and I would have to endure his course of
illness. :-0  So my heart is with you.  I will pray for Patrick every
day.
Mary K.
--- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "patmom7" <hkashiwa@s...>
wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>   For those of you who remember me, I have only posted a few times
> about my 8 yr old son Patrick, who has suffered from moderate to
> severe knee joint pains for the past three years. (He never tested
> positive for lyme but did have an engorged deer tick at 14 months
> old, and we lived in a highly endemnic area for LD)
>
>   Well, he started on Salt/C in February this year and worked up to
5
> grams of each per day(usually). At first I really wondered whether
it
> would do much for him, and to tell you the truth, we didn't change
> much diet-wise, etc. except to add the salt and C.(still it must be
> better to add more of the adjuncts..)
>
>    He did not seem to have much of a reaction, no creepy crawlies
to
> speak of ,and only one time did I see evidence of "bites," which I
> just about chalked up to heat rash.  But we kept going and I can
> really say that his pains are coming less and less frequently, less
> intense, less duration.This was especially the case when we
switched
> from a buffered C (calcium ascorbate) to a regular chewable
ascorbic
> acid.Also we started using Krystal salt.
>
>   He's practically behaving like a normal kid! He who cried with
> tears for hours almost every day and had to be removed from school.
>
>   It's absolutely a miracle and an answer to our prayers to have
> found this protocol, and I thank God daily.  I know Patrick's maybe
> not quite out of the woods yet, but we can sure see the light at
the
> end of the tunnel. And we intend to keep up the fight.
>
>   Please, please, be patient, those of you who may think salt/c is
> not doing the job, and this is really hard for a parent of a young
> child.  But I simply could not accept that he would have to go on
> antibiotics for the rest of his life!
>
>    Thanks so much for all your support. I read your posts and share
> your victories. We CAN defeat this disease!
> God bless you all,
>
> Helen
> (Patmom7)

I use American Ginseng for diabetes, and it has kept the blood test at
the low end.

Cathy

--- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, Suemassie45@a... wrote:
>
> Diabletes is an epidemic these days. Taking a prescription drug with
a pill
> or two /day is not going to cure anything, it is a maintenance via
chemistry.
>

Any suggestions on a product that would provide ozone, but not as
alklyzing as homozone?  I do the enemas daily.  Does this oxygenate
the body like homozone-is that why you suggested it??
Finally, Would an ozone sauna be helpful to beat these bugs out of
me?? (nuke them?)
Mary Kay
--- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "comdyne@i..." <comdyne@i...>
wrote:
> The lemon juice probably won't irritate your GI linings. All citrus
is both acid and alkalin. When the fruits mix with the stomach acids
the acid portion is quickly converted into carbon dioxide and water
leaving only the alkalin minerals behind. Many medical docotrs
mistakenly tell their cancer patients to avoid citrus because of the
acids and the sugars. Sugars from citrus do not require conversion
with insulin but are used directly as a fuel source as they are a
natural form of glucose (this is true of honey as well). It is the
poor digestive nature of refined sugars that are so toxic to the body
and fuel the cancer processes. Homozone should not be used for
extended periods of time as by its nature it is so highly alkalizing.
Once your GI tract normalizes and normal parastalic function is
restored you should switch to a milder form of an oxygenating agent.
You should use enemas and colonics on a regular basis. In European
health clinics daily enemas, sometimes three a day, are given and
colonics performed weekly or bi-weekly. Juice fasting is also highly
beneficial. Diet is what causes our troubles and normalizing it can
reverse almost all of our ails.
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: mkm502109
>   To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 3:28 AM
>   Subject: [lymestrategies] homozone
>
>
>   I have been taking homozone for 2 months now.  It helps my brain
and
>   energy .  However, I had diahhrea last week from die off of
toxins.
>   Until the diahhrea clears up,I've been VERY careful of what I
eat.  I
>   don't want to irritate the lining and prolong the diahhrea.
>   Because homozone requires lemon juice in its usage, I'm afraid
that the
>   juice will irritate the intestines.  Is there some neutriceutical
that
>   can do the same thing as lemon juice, without intestinal
irritation?
>   I can't think like I used to.
>   Kindly,
>   Mary K.
>
>
>
>
>   The information anywhere on Lyme Strategies should not be
considered complete, nor should it be relied on or interpreted to
suggest a course of treatment for any individual.  It is research
information only and it should not be used in place of a visit, call,
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health care provider.  Information obtained with regards to Lyme
Strategies is research only on an ongoing basis for review and
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information is considered at the members own risk.  The providers of
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Yay!!!! Hooray for Patrick!

This is great news. And I really needed to hear that now as I am in
the middle of (yet another) herx (anxiety, depression, pain etc.). I
do notice improvements between herxes - but there just isn't that much
between time for me yet.

Would you mind telling me, did Patrick noticeably "herx" at all? Did
his mood, attention, cognition etc change? Did he ever run a fever in
these five months? Also, did he have any noticeable change in his
digestion? Did Patrick ever take antibiotics for his knees?

Thanks! Sorry to give you the fifth degree, but its really helpful to
know this stuff!!

Good for you for seeing this through with him!

GG


--- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "patmom7" <hkashiwa@s...> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>   For those of you who remember me, I have only posted a few times
> about my 8 yr old son Patrick, who has suffered from moderate to
> severe knee joint pains for the past three years. (He never tested
> positive for lyme but did have an engorged deer tick at 14 months
> old, and we lived in a highly endemnic area for LD)
>
>   Well, he started on Salt/C in February this year and worked up to 5
> grams of each per day(usually). At first I really wondered whether it
> would do much for him, and to tell you the truth, we didn't change
> much diet-wise, etc. except to add the salt and C.(still it must be
> better to add more of the adjuncts..)
>
>    He did not seem to have much of a reaction, no creepy crawlies to
> speak of ,and only one time did I see evidence of "bites," which I
> just about chalked up to heat rash.  But we kept going and I can
> really say that his pains are coming less and less frequently, less
> intense, less duration.This was especially the case when we switched
> from a buffered C (calcium ascorbate) to a regular chewable ascorbic
> acid.Also we started using Krystal salt.
>
>   He's practically behaving like a normal kid! He who cried with
> tears for hours almost every day and had to be removed from school.
>
>   It's absolutely a miracle and an answer to our prayers to have
> found this protocol, and I thank God daily.  I know Patrick's maybe
> not quite out of the woods yet, but we can sure see the light at the
> end of the tunnel. And we intend to keep up the fight.
>
>   Please, please, be patient, those of you who may think salt/c is
> not doing the job, and this is really hard for a parent of a young
> child.  But I simply could not accept that he would have to go on
> antibiotics for the rest of his life!
>
>    Thanks so much for all your support. I read your posts and share
> your victories. We CAN defeat this disease!
> God bless you all,
>
> Helen
> (Patmom7)

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Hello everyone,
   For those of you who remember me, I have only posted a few times
about my 8 yr old son Patrick, who has suffered from moderate to
severe knee joint pains for the past three years. (He never tested
positive for lyme but did have an engorged deer tick at 14 months
old, and we lived in a highly endemnic area for LD)

   Well, he started on Salt/C in February this year and worked up to 5
grams of each per day(usually). At first I really wondered whether it
would do much for him, and to tell you the truth, we didn't change
much diet-wise, etc. except to add the salt and C.(still it must be
better to add more of the adjuncts..)

    He did not seem to have much of a reaction, no creepy crawlies to
speak of ,and only one time did I see evidence of "bites," which I
just about chalked up to heat rash.  But we kept going and I can
really say that his pains are coming less and less frequently, less
intense, less duration.This was especially the case when we switched
from a buffered C (calcium ascorbate) to a regular chewable ascorbic
acid.Also we started using Krystal salt.

   He's practically behaving like a normal kid! He who cried with
tears for hours almost every day and had to be removed from school.

   It's absolutely a miracle and an answer to our prayers to have
found this protocol, and I thank God daily.  I know Patrick's maybe
not quite out of the woods yet, but we can sure see the light at the
end of the tunnel. And we intend to keep up the fight.

   Please, please, be patient, those of you who may think salt/c is
not doing the job, and this is really hard for a parent of a young
child.  But I simply could not accept that he would have to go on
antibiotics for the rest of his life!

    Thanks so much for all your support. I read your posts and share
your victories. We CAN defeat this disease!
God bless you all,

Helen
(Patmom7)

----- Original Message -----

From: Clare McConville-Harris

To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 6:41 PM

Subject: [lymestrategies] Re: Beth - diabetes

Beth both Hubbie and are are diagnosed type 2 NON insulin dependent diabetics.......   neither of us now requires medication.....   it can be done by diet alone BUT NOT the standard diabetic diet as proclaimed by the Diabetes association............   actually I am no longer considered diabetic  and hubbies A1c is now 5.8 and his morning sugars are in the totally normal range for fasting.......

 

When you have more time and energy write me back list...... happy to yak with you......  Clare in Tassie   mc@...

 

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