Jim,

I wish that were still true, that distilled water was the purest water on earth.
It's not true
anymore.  Due to the proliferation of contaminants, they now get concentrated in
the
steam of the distilled water, so you actually get some of them concentrated,
particularly
the trihalmethanes.  Water purification has become much more complicated.  Now
it's
necessary to utilize a several step process with Reverse Osmosis plus carbon
filters, plus
often a sediment filter.

I've been working with the issue of water purification for decades, and working
with an
extremely knowedgable water chemist.  I order the proper kind of water filters
for clients.

Gloria

--- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, JimJax2@... wrote:
>
>
>  Roger D,
>
> What's to be scared about distilled water? It is the purest water on earth!
All one needs
to do is add back in minerals, of which I do, Azomite...
>
> I bought a distiller that produces 9 gallons per day, far more than what I can
drink! It is
automatic for the most part and if I hooked it to my water supply, it would be
completely
automatic!
>
> Here is a list of distillers on eBay....
>
> http://search.ebay.com/water-distiller_W0QQ_trksidZm37QQfromZR40
>
> Here is a distiller that is similar to mine:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/AQUA-D-STAINLESS-STEEL-PURE-WATER-DISTILLER-
FILTER_W0QQitemZ120216449091
> QQihZ002QQcategoryZ20684QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
>
>
> The important thing in buying a distiller is you want all the parts that touch
the water to
be stainless, not plastic.... The one above claims to be all stainess and if it
works it is at
about the price it should sell for... It also appears it can be hooked to the
home cold water
supply...
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Dilworth <rogerdil@...>
> To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:13 pm
> Subject: Re: [lymestrategies] Re: OT: Fluoride in drinking water
>
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> Thanks Susan and Sam.? I had once investigated a distiller, but I'm not sure
what scared
me off.? I think it was the large amount of time it took to distill a small
amount of water??
Maybe I'm exaggerating, however, and I'll definitely?reinvestigate.
>
> Sam <dudehorner@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Salt tabs have no extra minerals added - it's pure sodium chloride.
> I use the salt tabs for my main daily consumption and use the
> himalayan sea salt liberally on my food simply for all the minerals -
> even calcium flouride, NOT sodium
>  flouride. I cannot fathom why any
> company would be adding extra sodium flouride to our precious sea
> salt which already contains calcium flouride - it simply makes no
> sense to me.
> Heres where I get my himalayan salt from....
>
> http://www.americanbluegreen.com/
>
> I still think calcium flouride is an essential mineral in the amounts
> we get from natural sources such as the Himalayan sea salt - I may be
> totally wrong though.
>
> I use bottled water for drinking and know its not the best thing as
> someone pointed out earlier with all the plasticisers and such but at
> least its distilled. I think it may be time for me to purchase a
> distiller - the kind Jim had referred to here many times b/f - please
> chime in here Jim with your thoughts and links to a good distiller.
> I also use a shower filter for municiple water to rid the flouride
> and chlorine. Sure miss my long
>  hot baths though.
>
> Sam
>
> --- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "susan" <ssiegel5@> wrote:
> >
> > You can buy a distiller relatively cheap at any Sears type store
> and just
> > use that for your main source of drinking water. But you need to
> add some
> > minerals back in. I put the dark willard water in mine. But if
> you take
> > salt pills you may not need the extra minerals.
> >
> > Susan S
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> >
> > From: Roger Dilworth
> > Date: 1/29/2008 2:34:02 PM
> > To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [lymestrategies] OT: Fluoride in drinking water
> >
> > I agree that fluoride is something that shouldn't be consumed, but
> I still
> > drink filtered water. Are there inexpensive solutions to get
>  rid of
> > fluoride in filtered tap? I don't see bottled water as the
> solution since,
> > per Dr. Clark, it contains propyl alcohol and benzene. Pick your
> poison?
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g_mrrsn,

Did you get your congressman, etc. involved on an appeal?  My friend's lawyer
said, when
someone offered to get the senator involved, that that would only make the judge
angry,
and that it would backfire.

Gloria

--- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "g_mrrsn" <g_mrrsn@...> wrote:
>
> -Hope you'all don't mind if I add my 2 cents for what it is worth
>
> Great coaching job Jim. We may as well have the money as have the
> government waste it on some dumb project.  After all we earned it.
> Jim is right about the attorney.  They are only allowed a certain
> percentage.
>
> It took me about 2 years to get SSND.  I figured out they are
> interested in what you have , but mostly in  what you cannot do. I
> called my congrssman and Senators and they went to work for me and
> got the ssnd--
>
> You can't lift more that 1-2 pounds or carry it more than a few steps.
> You can't walk very far or stand very long. Get the picture? LOL
>
> Hi Suzy and Jim.
>
> Suzy, we miss you on MS with Linney Sue, Lynn, tipton.
>
> Praying for your success in getting your $$.
>
> Mona
>
> I gots to go to bed now.
>
>  In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "gloria_shell" <gloria_shell@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Suzy and Jim,
> >
> > Don't apply for Disability under the dx of Lyme!  They don't pay
> for Lyme, but you can get
> > it for Fibro, CFS, migraine, etc.  I have a client/friend, who has
> applied for SSI Disability
> > under Lyme dx.  She has what should be a slam-dunk case, lots of
> proof, tests, doctors's
> > letters, etc.  HOWEVER, the SS Admin is sending 3, that's THREE,
> doctors, who are "experts"
> > to testify against her that there is no Chronic Lyme---Infectious
> Disease docs, etc.  They
> > are making an example out of her, and showing that they will not
> pay for Lyme.  And she
> > paid into the system for years with a high-paying job.  If this
> were private insurance, they
> > couldn't get away with it!  And, of course, she is being bankrupted
> by the disease.  She
> > now has to pay $1200 a month to get health insurance!!  It's cruel.
> >
> > Gloria
> >
> > --- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, JimJax2@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  Hi Suzy,
> > >
> > > You are ill with Lyme disease and not collecting SSDI? We have to
> get you going on this...
> > SSDI is insurance you've paid premiums for in the event you can
> work because of an illness
> > or disability. It ain't easy to get it, because it takes about 1
> 1/2 years of traveling through
> > federal crap before you can get approved.... If you are successful,
> you will receive a big
> > check for back pay... This is usually from the time you file ‘til
> the time you are
> > improved... But, is it worth it, oh yes! Not only do you get a
> monthly stipend, but you will
> > be eligible for Medicare and to me this is worth more than what
> they give you each
> > month...
> > >
> > > The first thing you need to do is contact Social Security and
> have them send you the
> > application.... NEXT, hire a SSDI attorney... There should be NO
> charge to you unless you
> > win your case.... Then, I believe there is a limit set by law that
> they can charge you... ASK!
> >   You will also need a good doctor or two willing to write a
> letter on your behalf stating
> > you are disabled and can not work... If you don’t have one yet,
> your attorney should
> > recommend one...
> > >
> > > Once you get the attorney and the doctor(s), let me know and I
> will give you further
> > info...
> > >
> > > I know of another group member I’ve been pushing her to sign up
> for SSDI for about
> > 4 months, she finally contacted me a few weeks ago for all the
> details... She is hiring an
> > attorney and making application to SSDI....
> > >
> > > You are disabled because of Lyme, but your disability may be for
> something else, like
> > Fibro or CFS... It is hard to get a dx of Lyme.... That’s okay,
> it all pays the same!
> > >
> > > Suzy, this is something you have paid for and are entitled to
> since you can no longer
> > work.... Don’t hesitate, just DO IT! A good way to look at this,
> either you will get that
> > check every month or the gov’t will! Now, who do you want to have
> that check!!? SSDI
> > employees will do everything they can to see you don’t get
> approved, your attorney will
> > do everything he can to see you do get it... You will get turned
> down once or twice, then
> > you will go before a federal administrative judge who will decide
> your case... This is where
> > most folks win their case...
> > >
> > > Good luck!
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: starlark <starlark@>
> > > To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:37 pm
> > > Subject: Re: [lymestrategies] SSDI disability
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> > > JimJax2@ wrote:
> > >
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> > > >
> > >
> > > > Hiya Jim,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > What was the process like for you to get on SSDI disability? It
> sure
> > >
> > > > would take the edge off the worry of how to pay for medical
> expenses
> > >
> > > > or life, when so debilitated! thanks, Suzy
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > As for disability, are you talking about SSDI (Social Security
> > >
> > > > Disability Insurance)? Or LT with a private policy? You
> certainly are
> > >
> > > > qualified to apply for SSDI as you are now unable to work and
> this is
> > >
> > > > what this insurance is for.... I and a good number of other
> group
> > >
> > > > members are on it and some are in the process of applying for
> it....
> > >
> > > > Another BIG benefit of SSDI is Medicare.... All are entitled to
> it 24
> > >
> > > > months after the date of disability...
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Take care,
> > >
> > > > Jim
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Yes, she does have the test results, positive for several kinds of Lyme (she
first got it in
Europe), Bartonella, etc.  She had a SPEC scan, a sleep study, etc., etc.  But
they are coming
out for her with blazing guns---3 "expert" doctors!  The fight goes on.

Gloria

--- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, Eric & Sherrie Engler <sherrielee@...>
wrote:
>
> Gloria,
>
> Does your client/friend have a diagnosis of Chronic Lyme or was she
> diagnosed with Late Stage Lyme disease?
>
> There seems to be a big difference when it comes to the two terms.  Late
> stage can be proven with tests, like mine did.
> And I did have the initial EM rash and early treatment, but despite
> early treatment, I still went on to develop late stage Neurological lyme
> disease about 1 year after my initial infection.  They have damage that
> has been proven by nerve inductions etc.
>
> Does you friend have these same test results?
>
>
> / Suzy and Jim,
>
> Don't apply for Disability under the dx of Lyme! They don't pay for
> Lyme, but you can get
> it for Fibro, CFS, migraine, etc. I have a client/friend, who has
> applied for SSI Disability
> under Lyme dx. She has what should be a slam-dunk case, lots of proof,
> tests, doctors's
> letters, etc. HOWEVER, the SS Admin is sending 3, that's THREE, doctors,
> who are "experts"
> to testify against her that there is no Chronic Lyme---Infectious
> Disease docs, etc. They
> are making an example out of her, and showing that they will not pay for
> Lyme. And she
> paid into the system for years with a high-paying job. If this were
> private insurance, they
> couldn't get away with it! And, of course, she is being bankrupted by
> the disease. She
> now has to pay $1200 a month to get health insurance!! It's cruel.
>
> Gloria/
>

Suzy and Jim,

Neither, her dx is Lyme Disease.  But her LLMD just wrote a strong letter,
including the dx
of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, etc. to cover her for SSI Disability.  The point
is, the SSI
Admin doesn't want to pay for Lyme Disease disability, the same as the insurance
companies don't want to pay for Lyme treatment.  It's so easy for them to say
that Lyme is
easily treated by a few weeks of abx----esp now that the IDSA "Guidelines" are
out.



Gloria

--- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, Eric & Sherrie Engler <sherrielee@...>
wrote:
>
> Gloria,
>
> Does your client/friend have a diagnosis of Chronic Lyme or was she
> diagnosed with Late Stage Lyme disease?
>
> There seems to be a big difference when it comes to the two terms.  Late
> stage can be proven with tests, like mine did.
> And I did have the initial EM rash and early treatment, but despite
> early treatment, I still went on to develop late stage Neurological lyme
> disease about 1 year after my initial infection.  They have damage that
> has been proven by nerve inductions etc.
>
> Does you friend have these same test results?
>
>
> / Suzy and Jim,
>
> Don't apply for Disability under the dx of Lyme! They don't pay for
> Lyme, but you can get
> it for Fibro, CFS, migraine, etc. I have a client/friend, who has
> applied for SSI Disability
> under Lyme dx. She has what should be a slam-dunk case, lots of proof,
> tests, doctors's
> letters, etc. HOWEVER, the SS Admin is sending 3, that's THREE, doctors,
> who are "experts"
> to testify against her that there is no Chronic Lyme---Infectious
> Disease docs, etc. They
> are making an example out of her, and showing that they will not pay for
> Lyme. And she
> paid into the system for years with a high-paying job. If this were
> private insurance, they
> couldn't get away with it! And, of course, she is being bankrupted by
> the disease. She
> now has to pay $1200 a month to get health insurance!! It's cruel.
>
> Gloria/
>

Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:20:35 -0800 (PST)
From: jenny goodhealth <jenny_goodhealth2@...>
Subject: [Lyme-and-rife] OT-MMS-how to proceed?-Klinghardt Protocol:**To: Sandy Mckenzie Fr: Jenny:
To: jenny goodhealth <jenny_goodhealth2@...>,
Lyme-and-rife@yahoogroups.com, Sandra McKenzie <smcken@...>

Hi, Sandy,

 

Thanks for all the valuable info. Do you know by any chance whether Dr. Klinghardt has any success in treating fibromyaglia ( which is actually the civilian form of gulf war sydrome casued by the bio-engineereed mycoplasma feramantans)?? Also, you said that Dr. klinghardt recommends using chlorella to clean up the neurotxoin while using MMS.  Well, when should we take the chlorella??? 1/2 hour before MMS or may be 1/2 hour after MMS???

 

Please advise.  As I am very sick, I'll be very grateful for your help. 

 

Jenny -

Linda Weston <westonlinda@...> wrote:

Maureen, I cannot answer for sure.  But the post seems to indicate that you might want to stay at the higher level for a prolonged period of time, which is suggested to be 18 months, to eradicate the spirochetes throughout their life cycle, which is very slow.  By flooding with the MMS, you create an inhospitable environment for the spirochetes (in all their elusive forms) over a long period of time.  Your bacterial load will eventually be substantially reduced, which will enhance the ability of your own immune system to function.   Below is the text of the original email that sparked interest recently in the Klinghardt protocol.  You may want to contact Dr. Klinghardt for more information about his testing of patients for Lyme after 6 weeks of MMS.  If his patients are testing positive for Lyme after 6 weeks on his MMS protocol, then it is likely that such testing could be used to measure the progress of the MMS potocol by re-testing at periodic intervals.  -Linda   ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ***** From: bty276416 <smcken@btopenworld. com> Subject: [Lyme-and-rife] Lyme and MMS To: Lyme-and-rife@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, January 21, 2008, 11:35 AM I just completed a weekend medical seminar in London with Dr Dietrich Klinghardt. Klinghardt has been using MMS for the past 2 years to treat Lyme, CFS and Fibromyalgia. -- with MMS he has found it takes 18 months to clear up all the Lyme and coinfections. Read about MMS at http://www.miraclem ineral.org/ A UK source at £20 + p/p for 3 months supply is at http://miracleminer alsupplement. blogspot. com/ Dr Klinghardt now uses MMS for 6 weeks then sends the patient's blood for testing. The MMS flushes out the spirochetes and the body starts making antibodies. He has had 1000 positives in the past year with patients who previously tested negative. He recommends the Western Blot test.       --- On Mon, 1/28/08, Maureen Miller <momiller21@yahoo. com> wrote: From: Maureen Miller <momiller21@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [Lyme-and-rife] OT-MMS-how to proceed?-Klinghardt Protocol To: Lyme-and-rife@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, January 28, 2008, 8:08 PM thank you linda. how long do you maintain the 15 drops 3x a day then or 6 drops 2x daily with the 15 drops 2x a week an hour apart? Once you get up to these drops, you stay on this dosage or do you drop down? Maureen --- Linda Weston <westonlinda@ yahoo.com> wrote: ------------ --------- --------- --- Maureen, The Klinghardt dosing protocol (below) was forwarded to me by Jim from Florida, who posts regularly on this site. Dr. Klinghardt is a highly respected doctor in the Seattle area who recently, at a symposium in London, reported substantial success with MMS for Lyme patients. I will be trying his protocol b) before trying to ramp up to 15 drops 3x per day (protocol a). There is no reason why you cannot use MMS in conjunction with rife, which many of us are doing. -Linda Original Message----- From: Sandra McKenzie <smcken@btopenworld. com> To: Lyme-and-rife@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 7:26 am Subject: [Lyme-and-rife] Re:Best deal of authentic MMS?? Jennie, The Klinghardt recommended protocol for Lyme is a. Start 2 drops MMS twice daily. Increase slowly to 15 drops 3 times/day. or b. Maintain on 6 drops twice daily and spike once weekly to 15 drops twice daily exactly one hour apart. Die off effects (nausea for a few hours most common) He says it takes 18 months to clear up Lyme due to the various life cycles of the spirochetes. He also recommends Chlorella to remove Lyme neurotoxins. 1 gamms 3 times/day. Omce week; 5 - 6 gramms 4 times/day. Sandy McKenzie --- On Mon, 1/28/08, Maureen Miller <momiller21@yahoo. com> wrote: From: Maureen Miller <momiller21@yahoo. com> Subject: [Lyme-and-rife] OT- MMS users- how to proceed? To: Lyme-and-rife@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, January 28, 2008, 7:27 AM okay, got my bottle of MMS, how should I proceed with this? start with one or two drops and add a drop a day until i get sick then back down until i am able to get to 15 drops- what happens when you get to 15 drops- do it twice a day, then what? for how long? do you go back down? what are you other lymies doing who are using this? any good results yet? Maureen --- Rani Joyst <ranijoyst@yahoo. co.in> wrote: > hi , > i found this FREE SOFTWARE EBOOKS FOR DOWNLOAD > site check it > > http://www.ilubook. com/ > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to > begin. > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > Forgot the famous last words? Access your message > archive online. Click here. ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Never miss a thing. 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To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
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Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:13:22 -0500
Subject: Re: [lymestrategies] Non salt/C: Who is Barack Obama ?

I agree exactly with everything that Dana said.

 

I found the email about Obama extremely upsetting. I am pretty close to unsubscribing as it is. There are people here who make assumptions that everyone else here thinks like they do, which is NOT the case. I have endured all the Ron Paul endorsements, and he is certainly not MY candidate. I actually worked on the Draft Al Gore campaign all fall and not once did I send an email about him or his values to this forum.

 

The notion that this is a Christian nation above all else, or that everyone has to be patriotic by respecting the flag and singing the national anthem is a bit on the narrow side. The Muslim population is quite large, ranking as the second largest religion in the world. Why shouldn't someone who is Muslim be as deserving to serve as president as someone who is Christian?

 

Thank you so much for speaking up Dana!

 

 

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Please don’t send this sort of thing through this group. There’s way too much nastiness in politics as it is. I don’t know if this is true or not (Snopes.com or not), and in any case, it only serves to confuse and inflame (presenting only one side of the person and making assumptions and presenting what are probably half truths at best). As we have said before (many of us as well as Marc the list owner) this is not a political forum. If you’re going to form an opinion about a candidate, how about doing some of your own research instead of basing your opinion on something like this. I don’t know much about Obama, but I’ll probably take a much closer look before forming an opinion. And by the way, if you plan on voting in the presidential election, I hope you’ll do some careful research on anyone you choose before voting. The mainstream media is a not much more than propaganda machine.

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Hi Jim and Marci,
     Thanks for the info! I guess I oughta give them a call, as it sounds
from what you say Marci, like I wouldn't be eligible, since I've been
sick for so many years and living very low on the hog. Haven't made
enough $$$ to anywhere near qualify for SS yet, and at this rate, it's
could be awhile! Anyway, it's worth investigating once I get out of this
big herx that's leaving me with a cotton candy brain! love, Suzy

Woodi16@... wrote:
>
> This is good advice, but makes the assumption that EVERYONE is
> eligible for Social Security Disability, which is just not true.
> Eligible folks have to have worked and paid into Social Security for a
> certain number of quarters. A call to your local Social Security
> office will help you determine that.
>
> Marci
>
> In a message dated 1/30/2008 1:36:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> JimJax2@... writes:
>
>     Hi Suzy,
>
>     You are ill with Lyme disease and not collecting SSDI? We have to
>     get you going on this... SSDI is insurance you've paid premiums
>     for in the event you can work because of an illness or disability.
>     It ain't easy to get it, because it takes about 1 1/2 years of
>     traveling through federal crap before you can get approved.... If
>     you are successful, you will receive a big check for back pay...
>     This is usually from the time you file ‘til the time you are
>     improved... But, is it worth it, oh yes! Not only do you get a
>     monthly stipend, but you will be eligible for Medicare and to me
>     this is worth more than what they give you each month...
>
>     The first thing you need to do is contact Social Security and have
>     them send you the application.... NEXT, hire a SSDI attorney...
>     There should be NO charge to you unless you win your case....
>     Then, I believe there is a limit set by law that they can charge
>     you... ASK!  You will also need a good doctor or two willing to
>     write a letter on your behalf stating you are disabled and can not
>     work... If you don’t have one yet, your attorney should recommend
>     one...
>
>     Once you get the attorney and the doctor(s), let me know and I
>     will give you further info...
>
>     I know of another group member I’ve been pushing her to sign up
>     for SSDI for about 4 months, she finally contacted me a few weeks
>     ago for all the details... She is hiring an attorney and making
>     application to SSDI....
>
>     You are disabled because of Lyme, but your disability may be for
>     something else, like Fibro or CFS... It is hard to get a dx of
>     Lyme.... That’s okay, it all pays the same!
>
>     Suzy, this is something you have paid for and are entitled to
>     since you can no longer work.... Don’t hesitate, just DO IT! A
>     good way to look at this, either you will get that check every
>     month or the gov’t will! Now, who do you want to have that
>     check!!? SSDI employees will do everything they can to see you
>     don’t get approved, your attorney will do everything he can to see
>     you do get it... You will get turned down once or twice, then you
>     will go before a federal administrative judge who will decide your
>     case... This is where most folks win their case...
>
>     Good luck!
>     Jim
>
>
>
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: starlark <starlark@...>
>     To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
>     Sent: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:37 pm
>     Subject: Re: [lymestrategies] SSDI disability
>
>
>
>     JimJax2@... <mailto:JimJax2%40aol.com> wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     > Hiya Jim,
>
>     > What was the process like for you to get on SSDI disability? It
>     sure
>     > would take the edge off the worry of how to pay for medical
>     expenses
>     > or life, when so debilitated! thanks, Suzy
>     >
>     > As for disability, are you talking about SSDI (Social Security
>     > Disability Insurance)? Or LT with a private policy? You
>     certainly are
>     > qualified to apply for SSDI as you are now unable to work and
>     this is
>     > what this insurance is for.... I and a good number of other group
>     > members are on it and some are in the process of applying for
>     it....
>     > Another BIG benefit of SSDI is Medicare.... All are entitled to
>     it 24
>     > months after the date of disability...
>     >
>     > Take care,
>     > Jim
>     >
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:32:36 -0800
From: marciaholiday@...
To: deeptrance@...
Subject: Fwd: Who is Barack Obama ?

This was forwarded to me by a friend who often sends me items that make me stop and think seriously about preconceived ideas or media images.  I believe it is certainly something to look into further before placing a vote on Primary Day.  I don't endorse the information as I have not yet had time to do research on it, but felt it important enough to want to pass on to friends who are looking for change and have liked much of what he seems to say.  If any of you go further with research and find info to add, please send back to me!

 

>Who Is Barack Obama?
>
> Very interesting and something that should be considered in your
choice.
> If you do not ever forward anything else, please forward this to all
your
> contacts...this is very scary to think of what lies ahead of us
> here in our own United States...better heed this and pray about it and

> share it.
>
> We checked this out on ' snopes.com'. It is factual. Check for
yourself.
>
> <http://snopes.com/ Who is Barack Obama?
>
> Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born
in
> Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a  black MUSLIM from
> Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHIEST from Wichita,
> Kansas.
>
> Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii. When Obama was two
years
> old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya. His mother
then
> married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indo nesia.
> When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama
> attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta. He also spent two years in a
Catholic
> school.
>
> Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is
> quick to point out that, 'He was once a Muslim, but that he also
attended
> Catholic school.'
>
> Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that he is
not
> a radical.
>
> Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this
influence
> was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya
soon
> after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his
son's
> education.
>
> Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham,
introduced
> his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in
Jakarta.
>
> Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim
terrorists
> who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Since it is
> politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major
> public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined
the
> United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim
background.
> ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office
> he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran.
>
> Barack Hussein Obama will NOT recite the Pledge of Allegiance nor will
he
> show any reverence for our flag.  While others place their hands over
> their hearts, Obama turns his back to the flag and slouches.
>
> Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential
> candidacy.
>
> The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside
out,
> what better way to start than at the highest level - through the
President
> of the United States, one of their own!!!!
>
> Please forward to everyone you know. Would you want this man leading
our
> country?
>
******
This is what I found on snopes.com.  I sure hope this man isn't a
terrorist.
But, to be running for the President of this United States, and not pay
honor to our flag!  Again, this could be an interpetation misquoted.
???
But, read and inquire, certainly before voting for him..



1. Urban Legends Reference Pages: Who Is Barack Obama? ....
E-mail describes Illinois senator Barack Obama as 'ideologically
Muslim.'
 ...Home --> Politics --> Barack Obama --> The Enemy Within The Enemy
Within Claim: Illinois senator Barack Obama is a 'radical, ideological
Muslim.'...
 ...This is the 'dude' that some people want to be the next President
of
the United States Scary isn't it??????? Speaking bluntly, in a real
presidential...
 ...election, no one in their right mind would vote for Obama. That
would
be like voting for the guy who just moved in down the street from you,
that
you...
Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:27:09 GMT
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp


2. Urban Legends Reference Pages: Barack Obama and the National Anthem
...
Barack Obama does not place his hand over his heart when the U.S.
national
anthem is played?
 ...Barack Obama --> Hand Over Heart Hand Over Heart Claim: Photograph
shows Barack Obama without his hand over his heart while the U.S.
national...
 ...Boy, that's exactly who we need as President! Does this man not
cross
his heart when the National Anthem is playing, or when the flag is
raised
or...
 ...Senator Barack Obama, Governor Bill Richardson, Senator Hillary
Clinton
and Ruth Harkin stand during the national anthem. Barack Hussein Obama's

photo...
Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:21:47 GMT
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp


3. Urban Legends Reference Pages: Barack Obama - Trinity Church of
Christ ...
E-mail describes Illinois senator Barack Obama's church as having a
racist,
;non-negotiable commitment to Africa.'
 ...Home --> Politics --> Barack Obama --> Holy Trinity Holy Trinity
Claim:
E-mail describes Illinois senator Barack Obama's church as having a
racist,...
 ...Obama mentioned his church during his appearance with Oprah. It's
the
Trinity Church of Christ. I found this interesting. Obama's church:
Please
read...
 ...this church's website and read what is written there. It is very
alarming. Barack Obama is a member of this church and is running for
President of...
Wed, 02 Jan 2008 19:59:51 GMT
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/church.asp


4. Urban Legends Reference Pages: 'Marxist' Quotes from Hillary Clinton
...
E-mail reproduces various 'Marxist' statements made by Hillary Clinton.
 ...Who said these things? Now you might think these were the famous
words
of the Father of communism, Karl Marx ... ... and you would be on the
right...
 ...This collection of purported 'Marxist' quotes by Senator Hillary
Clinton is no exception, so as usual we've attempted to clarify it by
identifying the...
 ...with three Democratic presidential hopefuls, senators John Edwards,

Barack Obama, and Hillary Clinton. The second statement was part of a
straightforward...
Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:02:35 GMT
http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/marxist.asp

The short snyopsis above represents countless hours of pouring over dozens of research papers, all of which are over my head, in trying to find a needle or two with which I could use to try to weave a better understanding of this absolutely remarkably intelligent lifeform.
The scant information offered is dismally dissappointing given the amount of effort I have thus far put into it.
I will in the future focus on the Plasmids of Borrelia burgdorferi and their actions within the bacteria and their effects on mamiallian host. This new effort will simply be in the form of Research Papers submitted to the various institutions, in the form of pdf files to the appropiate thread.(as I just learned to do this morning).
Small animals such as mice carry this bacteria around with them. They spread it around to other ticks. It is still is a mystery why it is so widespread. At least it is to me. Thirty years ago you would have been hard pressed to find a person with this disease. It is common place in my area.

Don't forget about migratory birds as well as local bird species. These airway "vectors" have tremendous potential for the spreading this lifeform anywhere. Its just a matter of time.
And speaking of airways its interesting to note that Jeff Sutherland frequently finds Lyme disease in the chemtrails using his methodology.
It occurred to me while doing this research that these chemtrails may contain mutant forms of Borrelia burgdorferi that has been genetically modified to interrupt the inffectivity of the current strain on human populations or to especially interfear with the virulance factors associated with the organism.Modification of certain genes in borrelia would allow the immune system to mop up the mess.....

I keep mentioning Char Boehm (DNA Pathogen Frequencies (http://www.dnafrequencies.com/) )and her method of devitalization because I'm convinced that any other method could possibly cause the spirochette to revert to a cystic defense posture untill the host environment is once again friendly. This would explain why reports of continuous hits are reported time and time again by users of frequency appliances.
I wish you and your wife all the best.
randall

Thanks for all of the good information Randall. I appreciate the effort you put into this. It is no wonder Chronic Lyme is such a difficult disease to cure.

Small animals such as mice carry this bacteria around with them. They spread it around to other ticks. It is still is a mystery why it is so widespread. At least it is to me. Thirty years ago you would have been hard pressed to find a person with this disease. It is common place in my area.

Don't forget about migratory birds as well as local bird species. These airway "vectors" have tremendous potential for the spreading this lifeform anywhere. Its just a matter of time.
And speaking of airways its interesting to note that Jeff Sutherland frequently finds Lyme disease in the chemtrails using his methodology.
It occurred to me while doing this research that these chemtrails may contain mutant forms of Borrelia burgdorferi that has been genetically modified to interrupt the inffectivity of the current strain on human populations or to especially interfear with the virulance factors associated with the organism.Modification of certain genes in borrelia would allow the immune system to mop up the mess.....

I keep mentioning Char Boehm (DNA Pathogen Frequencies (http://www.dnafrequencies.com/) )and her method of devitalization because I'm convinced that any other method could possibly cause the spirochette to revert to a cystic defense posture untill the host environment is once again friendly. This would explain why reports of continuous hits are reported time and time again by users of frequency appliances.
I wish you and your wife all the best.