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#68318 From: "susan" <ssiegel5@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 12:27 pm
Subject: Re: Who Is Barack Obama? The REAL snopes story
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Subject: [lymestrategies] Who Is Barack Obama? The REAL snopes story
 

I thought you might find the following article from snopes.com interesting: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

 




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#68317 From: "gloria_shell" <gloria_shell@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 6:09 am
Subject: Re: OT: Fluoride in drinking water
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Jim,

I wish that were still true, that distilled water was the purest water on earth.
It's not true
anymore.  Due to the proliferation of contaminants, they now get concentrated in
the
steam of the distilled water, so you actually get some of them concentrated,
particularly
the trihalmethanes.  Water purification has become much more complicated.  Now
it's
necessary to utilize a several step process with Reverse Osmosis plus carbon
filters, plus
often a sediment filter.

I've been working with the issue of water purification for decades, and working
with an
extremely knowedgable water chemist.  I order the proper kind of water filters
for clients.

Gloria

--- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, JimJax2@... wrote:
>
>
>  Roger D,
>
> What's to be scared about distilled water? It is the purest water on earth!
All one needs
to do is add back in minerals, of which I do, Azomite...
>
> I bought a distiller that produces 9 gallons per day, far more than what I can
drink! It is
automatic for the most part and if I hooked it to my water supply, it would be
completely
automatic!
>
> Here is a list of distillers on eBay....
>
> http://search.ebay.com/water-distiller_W0QQ_trksidZm37QQfromZR40
>
> Here is a distiller that is similar to mine:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/AQUA-D-STAINLESS-STEEL-PURE-WATER-DISTILLER-
FILTER_W0QQitemZ120216449091
> QQihZ002QQcategoryZ20684QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
>
>
> The important thing in buying a distiller is you want all the parts that touch
the water to
be stainless, not plastic.... The one above claims to be all stainess and if it
works it is at
about the price it should sell for... It also appears it can be hooked to the
home cold water
supply...
>
>
> Jim
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Dilworth <rogerdil@...>
> To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:13 pm
> Subject: Re: [lymestrategies] Re: OT: Fluoride in drinking water
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> Thanks Susan and Sam.? I had once investigated a distiller, but I'm not sure
what scared
me off.? I think it was the large amount of time it took to distill a small
amount of water??
Maybe I'm exaggerating, however, and I'll definitely?reinvestigate.
>
> Sam <dudehorner@...> wrote:
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> Salt tabs have no extra minerals added - it's pure sodium chloride.
> I use the salt tabs for my main daily consumption and use the
> himalayan sea salt liberally on my food simply for all the minerals -
> even calcium flouride, NOT sodium
>  flouride. I cannot fathom why any
> company would be adding extra sodium flouride to our precious sea
> salt which already contains calcium flouride - it simply makes no
> sense to me.
> Heres where I get my himalayan salt from....
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> http://www.americanbluegreen.com/
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> I still think calcium flouride is an essential mineral in the amounts
> we get from natural sources such as the Himalayan sea salt - I may be
> totally wrong though.
>
> I use bottled water for drinking and know its not the best thing as
> someone pointed out earlier with all the plasticisers and such but at
> least its distilled. I think it may be time for me to purchase a
> distiller - the kind Jim had referred to here many times b/f - please
> chime in here Jim with your thoughts and links to a good distiller.
> I also use a shower filter for municiple water to rid the flouride
> and chlorine. Sure miss my long
>  hot baths though.
>
> Sam
>
> --- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "susan" <ssiegel5@> wrote:
> >
> > You can buy a distiller relatively cheap at any Sears type store
> and just
> > use that for your main source of drinking water. But you need to
> add some
> > minerals back in. I put the dark willard water in mine. But if
> you take
> > salt pills you may not need the extra minerals.
> >
> > Susan S
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> > -------Original Message-------
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> > From: Roger Dilworth
> > Date: 1/29/2008 2:34:02 PM
> > To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [lymestrategies] OT: Fluoride in drinking water
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> > I agree that fluoride is something that shouldn't be consumed, but
> I still
> > drink filtered water. Are there inexpensive solutions to get
>  rid of
> > fluoride in filtered tap? I don't see bottled water as the
> solution since,
> > per Dr. Clark, it contains propyl alcohol and benzene. Pick your
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#68316 From: "gloria_shell" <gloria_shell@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 5:49 am
Subject: Re: SSDI disability
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g_mrrsn,

Did you get your congressman, etc. involved on an appeal?  My friend's lawyer
said, when
someone offered to get the senator involved, that that would only make the judge
angry,
and that it would backfire.

Gloria

--- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "g_mrrsn" <g_mrrsn@...> wrote:
>
> -Hope you'all don't mind if I add my 2 cents for what it is worth
>
> Great coaching job Jim. We may as well have the money as have the
> government waste it on some dumb project.  After all we earned it.
> Jim is right about the attorney.  They are only allowed a certain
> percentage.
>
> It took me about 2 years to get SSND.  I figured out they are
> interested in what you have , but mostly in  what you cannot do. I
> called my congrssman and Senators and they went to work for me and
> got the ssnd--
>
> You can't lift more that 1-2 pounds or carry it more than a few steps.
> You can't walk very far or stand very long. Get the picture? LOL
>
> Hi Suzy and Jim.
>
> Suzy, we miss you on MS with Linney Sue, Lynn, tipton.
>
> Praying for your success in getting your $$.
>
> Mona
>
> I gots to go to bed now.
>
>  In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "gloria_shell" <gloria_shell@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Suzy and Jim,
> >
> > Don't apply for Disability under the dx of Lyme!  They don't pay
> for Lyme, but you can get
> > it for Fibro, CFS, migraine, etc.  I have a client/friend, who has
> applied for SSI Disability
> > under Lyme dx.  She has what should be a slam-dunk case, lots of
> proof, tests, doctors's
> > letters, etc.  HOWEVER, the SS Admin is sending 3, that's THREE,
> doctors, who are "experts"
> > to testify against her that there is no Chronic Lyme---Infectious
> Disease docs, etc.  They
> > are making an example out of her, and showing that they will not
> pay for Lyme.  And she
> > paid into the system for years with a high-paying job.  If this
> were private insurance, they
> > couldn't get away with it!  And, of course, she is being bankrupted
> by the disease.  She
> > now has to pay $1200 a month to get health insurance!!  It's cruel.
> >
> > Gloria
> >
> > --- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, JimJax2@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  Hi Suzy,
> > >
> > > You are ill with Lyme disease and not collecting SSDI? We have to
> get you going on this...
> > SSDI is insurance you've paid premiums for in the event you can
> work because of an illness
> > or disability. It ain't easy to get it, because it takes about 1
> 1/2 years of traveling through
> > federal crap before you can get approved.... If you are successful,
> you will receive a big
> > check for back pay... This is usually from the time you file ‘til
> the time you are
> > improved... But, is it worth it, oh yes! Not only do you get a
> monthly stipend, but you will
> > be eligible for Medicare and to me this is worth more than what
> they give you each
> > month...
> > >
> > > The first thing you need to do is contact Social Security and
> have them send you the
> > application.... NEXT, hire a SSDI attorney... There should be NO
> charge to you unless you
> > win your case.... Then, I believe there is a limit set by law that
> they can charge you... ASK!
> >   You will also need a good doctor or two willing to write a
> letter on your behalf stating
> > you are disabled and can not work... If you don’t have one yet,
> your attorney should
> > recommend one...
> > >
> > > Once you get the attorney and the doctor(s), let me know and I
> will give you further
> > info...
> > >
> > > I know of another group member I’ve been pushing her to sign up
> for SSDI for about
> > 4 months, she finally contacted me a few weeks ago for all the
> details... She is hiring an
> > attorney and making application to SSDI....
> > >
> > > You are disabled because of Lyme, but your disability may be for
> something else, like
> > Fibro or CFS... It is hard to get a dx of Lyme.... That’s okay,
> it all pays the same!
> > >
> > > Suzy, this is something you have paid for and are entitled to
> since you can no longer
> > work.... Don’t hesitate, just DO IT! A good way to look at this,
> either you will get that
> > check every month or the gov’t will! Now, who do you want to have
> that check!!? SSDI
> > employees will do everything they can to see you don’t get
> approved, your attorney will
> > do everything he can to see you do get it... You will get turned
> down once or twice, then
> > you will go before a federal administrative judge who will decide
> your case... This is where
> > most folks win their case...
> > >
> > > Good luck!
> > > Jim
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: starlark <starlark@>
> > > To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:37 pm
> > > Subject: Re: [lymestrategies] SSDI disability
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> > > JimJax2@ wrote:
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> > > > Hiya Jim,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > What was the process like for you to get on SSDI disability? It
> sure
> > >
> > > > would take the edge off the worry of how to pay for medical
> expenses
> > >
> > > > or life, when so debilitated! thanks, Suzy
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > As for disability, are you talking about SSDI (Social Security
> > >
> > > > Disability Insurance)? Or LT with a private policy? You
> certainly are
> > >
> > > > qualified to apply for SSDI as you are now unable to work and
> this is
> > >
> > > > what this insurance is for.... I and a good number of other
> group
> > >
> > > > members are on it and some are in the process of applying for
> it....
> > >
> > > > Another BIG benefit of SSDI is Medicare.... All are entitled to
> it 24
> > >
> > > > months after the date of disability...
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Take care,
> > >
> > > > Jim
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#68315 From: "gloria_shell" <gloria_shell@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 5:43 am
Subject: PS Re: SSDI disability
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Yes, she does have the test results, positive for several kinds of Lyme (she
first got it in
Europe), Bartonella, etc.  She had a SPEC scan, a sleep study, etc., etc.  But
they are coming
out for her with blazing guns---3 "expert" doctors!  The fight goes on.

Gloria

--- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, Eric & Sherrie Engler <sherrielee@...>
wrote:
>
> Gloria,
>
> Does your client/friend have a diagnosis of Chronic Lyme or was she
> diagnosed with Late Stage Lyme disease?
>
> There seems to be a big difference when it comes to the two terms.  Late
> stage can be proven with tests, like mine did.
> And I did have the initial EM rash and early treatment, but despite
> early treatment, I still went on to develop late stage Neurological lyme
> disease about 1 year after my initial infection.  They have damage that
> has been proven by nerve inductions etc.
>
> Does you friend have these same test results?
>
>
> / Suzy and Jim,
>
> Don't apply for Disability under the dx of Lyme! They don't pay for
> Lyme, but you can get
> it for Fibro, CFS, migraine, etc. I have a client/friend, who has
> applied for SSI Disability
> under Lyme dx. She has what should be a slam-dunk case, lots of proof,
> tests, doctors's
> letters, etc. HOWEVER, the SS Admin is sending 3, that's THREE, doctors,
> who are "experts"
> to testify against her that there is no Chronic Lyme---Infectious
> Disease docs, etc. They
> are making an example out of her, and showing that they will not pay for
> Lyme. And she
> paid into the system for years with a high-paying job. If this were
> private insurance, they
> couldn't get away with it! And, of course, she is being bankrupted by
> the disease. She
> now has to pay $1200 a month to get health insurance!! It's cruel.
>
> Gloria/
>

#68314 From: "gloria_shell" <gloria_shell@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 5:40 am
Subject: Re: SSDI disability
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Suzy and Jim,

Neither, her dx is Lyme Disease.  But her LLMD just wrote a strong letter,
including the dx
of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, etc. to cover her for SSI Disability.  The point
is, the SSI
Admin doesn't want to pay for Lyme Disease disability, the same as the insurance
companies don't want to pay for Lyme treatment.  It's so easy for them to say
that Lyme is
easily treated by a few weeks of abx----esp now that the IDSA "Guidelines" are
out.



Gloria

--- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, Eric & Sherrie Engler <sherrielee@...>
wrote:
>
> Gloria,
>
> Does your client/friend have a diagnosis of Chronic Lyme or was she
> diagnosed with Late Stage Lyme disease?
>
> There seems to be a big difference when it comes to the two terms.  Late
> stage can be proven with tests, like mine did.
> And I did have the initial EM rash and early treatment, but despite
> early treatment, I still went on to develop late stage Neurological lyme
> disease about 1 year after my initial infection.  They have damage that
> has been proven by nerve inductions etc.
>
> Does you friend have these same test results?
>
>
> / Suzy and Jim,
>
> Don't apply for Disability under the dx of Lyme! They don't pay for
> Lyme, but you can get
> it for Fibro, CFS, migraine, etc. I have a client/friend, who has
> applied for SSI Disability
> under Lyme dx. She has what should be a slam-dunk case, lots of proof,
> tests, doctors's
> letters, etc. HOWEVER, the SS Admin is sending 3, that's THREE, doctors,
> who are "experts"
> to testify against her that there is no Chronic Lyme---Infectious
> Disease docs, etc. They
> are making an example out of her, and showing that they will not pay for
> Lyme. And she
> paid into the system for years with a high-paying job. If this were
> private insurance, they
> couldn't get away with it! And, of course, she is being bankrupted by
> the disease. She
> now has to pay $1200 a month to get health insurance!! It's cruel.
>
> Gloria/
>

#68313 From: "Meredith W." <meredithbw@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 3:48 am
Subject: Re: Re: OT: Does french green clay kill fungus?
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thanks for the info Jim!

On 1/31/08, JimJax2@... <JimJax2@...> wrote:

Hey Meredith,


Azomite Buy


When purchasing Azomite, you want to be sure you purchase the powder, with the green label... This comes in different sizes, but the 44 lb bag is by far the best buy... It typically sells for $20 and expect to pay at least that in shipping....  You will end up with a big of minerals! There are a few places that charge in the $60's for a bag, includes shipping... To put this into perspective, the cost of three bottles of ConcenTrace 8 oz is about $42... This is a mineral replacement supplement.... The cost of Azomite 44lb bag is about the same price... When you have finished using up the 3 bottles of Concentrace, you will still have about 38 lbs of Azomite still to use!

I use 1 heaping tsp in two quarts of distilled water for general drinking and cooking. Use 1 - 2 heaping tsp in a glass of water or juice for detoxing... Using 1 hr before or two hrs. after a meal...

This is the folks I bought from, very nice to deal with...
http://www.fedcoseeds.com/ogs/OGSorderItem.php?id=8616&OGSname=AZOMITE

http://www.groworganic.com/item_F040_Azomite_44_lb_Micronized.html?welcome=T

http://www.azomite.com/products_.html

http://www.wheatgrasskits.com/azomite.htm?gclid=CISRh9zzyowCFQJUZQodEksIaA

SuperFood.... Weston A. Price Foundation
http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnutrition/superfoods.html

Jim

 

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Meredith W. <meredithbw@...>
To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 5:12 pm
Subject: Re: [lymestrategies] Re: OT: Does french green clay kill fungus?

Jim - do you mind posting your link for purchasing Azomite? Im sur eyou have done it before but i want Jims brand!!!!!!

 
On 1/30/08, JimJax2@... <JimJax2@...> wrote:
Peggy,

You can't use the granules..... It has an anti-clumping agent in it.... Have to purchase the powder, it doesn't have the agent in it... If you need a link to purchase, just let me know.... Buying the 44 lb bag is definitely the best price point...

Here is a link to the Weston A. Price Foundation. They call Azomite on of their top Superfoods...

http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnutrition/superfoods.html

This is the least expensive way to get your minerals! I add one heaping tsp to two quarts of distilled water.... I typically drink 3 - 5 qts daily.... To use it as a detoxifier, one hr before and two hrs after meals take one to two tsp in a glass of water or juice...

I've been using it since March and I highly recommend it as our mineral source and as a detoxifier.... It has the lowest cost of any mineral supplement and detoxifier and is highly recommended by the Price Foundation!

Jim



 

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Peggy Janousky <jemmybear@...>
To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 9:43 am
Subject: [lymestrategies] Re: OT: Does french green clay kill fungus?

Hi Jim,
How does azomite work? I know it is a great source of minerals, but I
am unaware of it's detoxifying or anti fungal effects. I just bought
the granules to put on my lawn. Can I use the same stuff for me?
How much do you recommend? I am very petite. I only weigh about 98 pounds.
Thanks for your help.
Peggy

 

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#68312 From: JimJax2@...
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 3:28 am
Subject: Re: Re: OT: Does french green clay kill fungus?
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Hey Meredith,


Azomite Buy


When purchasing Azomite, you want to be sure you purchase the powder, with the green label... This comes in different sizes, but the 44 lb bag is by far the best buy... It typically sells for $20 and expect to pay at least that in shipping....  You will end up with a big of minerals! There are a few places that charge in the $60’s for a bag, includes shipping... To put this into perspective, the cost of three bottles of ConcenTrace 8 oz is about $42... This is a mineral replacement supplement.... The cost of Azomite 44lb bag is about the same price... When you have finished using up the 3 bottles of Concentrace, you will still have about 38 lbs of Azomite still to use!

I use 1 heaping tsp in two quarts of distilled water for general drinking and cooking. Use 1 - 2 heaping tsp in a glass of water or juice for detoxing... Using 1 hr before or two hrs. after a meal...

This is the folks I bought from, very nice to deal with...
http://www.fedcoseeds.com/ogs/OGSorderItem.php?id=8616&OGSname=AZOMITE

http://www.groworganic.com/item_F040_Azomite_44_lb_Micronized.html?welcome=T

http://www.azomite.com/products_.html

http://www.wheatgrasskits.com/azomite.htm?gclid=CISRh9zzyowCFQJUZQodEksIaA

SuperFood.... Weston A. Price Foundation
http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnutrition/superfoods.html

Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: Meredith W. <meredithbw@...>
To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 5:12 pm
Subject: Re: [lymestrategies] Re: OT: Does french green clay kill fungus?

Jim - do you mind posting your link for purchasing Azomite? Im sur eyou have done it before but i want Jims brand!!!!!!

On 1/30/08, JimJax2@aol.com <JimJax2@aol.com> wrote:
Peggy,

You can't use the granules..... It has an anti-clumping agent in it.... Have to purchase the powder, it doesn't have the agent in it... If you need a link to purchase, just let me know.... Buying the 44 lb bag is definitely the best price point...

Here is a link to the Weston A. Price Foundation. They call Azomite on of their top Superfoods...

http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnutrition/superfoods.html

This is the least expensive way to get your minerals! I add one heaping tsp to two quarts of distilled water.... I typically drink 3 - 5 qts daily.... To use it as a detoxifier, one hr before and two hrs after meals take one to two tsp in a glass of water or juice...

I've been using it since March and I highly recommend it as our mineral source and as a detoxifier.... It has the lowest cost of any mineral supplement and detoxifier and is highly recommended by the Price Foundation!

Jim



 

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Peggy Janousky <jemmybear@earthlink.net>
To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 9:43 am
Subject: [lymestrategies] Re: OT: Does french green clay kill fungus?

Hi Jim,
How does azomite work? I know it is a great source of minerals, but I
am unaware of it's detoxifying or anti fungal effects. I just bought
the granules to put on my lawn. Can I use the same stuff for me?
How much do you recommend? I am very petite. I only weigh about 98 pounds.
Thanks for your help.
Peggy

 

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#68311 From: JimJax2@...
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 3:26 am
Subject: Re: SSDI disability
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Hey Meredith,

Congrats on you win!! When you go to battle with SS, they try their best to win! It takes a good person to beat them at their own game!!

Uh, who’s buying dinner tonight?

Jim  :-))



-----Original Message-----
From: Meredith W. <meredithbw@...>
To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 5:03 pm
Subject: Re: [lymestrategies] SSDI disability

Hye Rusty - i applied for STD while working but was denied b/c I didnt have any dx expect Hashimotos and Adrenal fatigue. Wasnt enough so I didnt see how LTD was going to say yes - same company. So I had to quit. A year later I had a DX of Lyme and co-infectiosn CFS possible MS etc....But any one of those will result in a DQ most of teh time.  YOu actually do not hav eto be at your job to get file for teh LTD. But there are time limitations for back filing - my attorney says I have a small shot at it - he has one them this late for Lyme before but Id have to pay some money up front b/c it is a less likely outcome and Im sacred to do that...I just won my SSDI so I hate to throw away money.....Let me know how thinsg go with your LTD - they are much toughe rthan SSDI.  Bets wishes to you. That is teh best check to get! :o)

On 1/30/08, rrusty <rrusty@sonic.net> wrote:
I'm in the process of trying to get LTD right now.  The insurance company is asking for all the records from MDs but none of the records from the D.C.s I've seen including the one that is treating me every other week for the last 6 months.  I'm holding my breath because one of the MDs is a homeopath and he is sending a letter instead of the chart, which they asked for.  He says that if insurance companies get ahold of the chart they use it to disqualify the person because the chart if full of psychological info and then the ins co says it was "all in their head" and the person is not disabled.
 
You are 3 years out from working? You have to be still employed to apply for LTD.  For SSDI you have to have paid into SocSec for 5 of the last 10 years.
Good luck!
 
Rusty
 


From: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com [mailto:lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Meredith W.
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:35 AM
To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [lymestrategies] SSDI disability

 
I think usually they pay you from your last day of work not when you file......
 
Has anyone had luck with LTD? I am 3 years out form mine so its a long shot anyway but just wondering....
 
On 1/30/08, JimJax2@aol.com <JimJax2@aol.com> wrote:

 
Hi Suzy,

You are ill with Lyme disease and not collecting SSDI? We have to get you going on this... SSDI is insurance you've paid premiums for in the event you can work because of an illness or disability. It ain't easy to get it, because it takes about 1 1/2 years of traveling through federal crap before you can get approved.... If you are successful, you will receive a big check for back pay... This is usually from the time you file 'til the time you are improved... But, is it worth it, oh yes! Not only do you get a monthly stipend, but you will be eligible for Medicare and to me this is worth more than what they give you each month...

The first thing you need to do is contact Social Security and have them send you the application.... NEXT, hire a SSDI attorney... There should be NO charge to you unless you win your case.... Then, I believe there is a limit set by law that they can charge you... ASK!  You will also need a good doctor or two willing to write a letter on your behalf stating you are disabled and can not work... If you don't have one yet, your attorney should recommend one...

Once you get the attorney and the doctor(s), let me know and I will give you further info...

I know of another group member I've been pushing her to sign up for SSDI for about 4 months, she finally contacted me a few weeks ago for all the details... She is hiring an attorney and making application to SSDI....

You are disabled because of Lyme, but your disability may be for something else, like Fibro or CFS... It is hard to get a dx of Lyme.... That's okay, it all pays the same!

Suzy, this is something you have paid for and are entitled to since you can no longer work.... Don't hesitate, just DO IT! A good way to look at this, either you will get that check every month or the gov't will! Now, who do you want to have that check!!? SSDI employees will do everything they can to see you don't get approved, your attorney will do everything he can to see you do get it... You will get turned down once or twice, then you will go before a federal administrative judge who will decide your case... This is where most folks win their case...

Good luck!
Jim




 
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To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:37 pm
Subject: Re: [lymestrategies] SSDI disability



JimJax2@aol.com wrote:
>
>
> Hiya Jim,

> What was the process like for you to get on SSDI disability? It sure
> would take the edge off the worry of how to pay for medical expenses
> or life, when so debilitated! thanks, Suzy
>
> As for disability, are you talking about SSDI (Social Security
> Disability Insurance)? Or LT with a private policy? You certainly are
> qualified to apply for SSDI as you are now unable to work and this is
> what this insurance is for.... I and a good number of other group
> members are on it and some are in the process of applying for it....
> Another BIG benefit of SSDI is Medicare.... All are entitled to it 24
> months after the date of disability...
>
> Take care,
> Jim
>
>
>
> .
>
>
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#68310 From: JimJax2@...
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 3:19 am
Subject: Re: SSDI disability
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Hey Meretidh,

Actually, they pay from the date of disablitiy which may or may not be the last day of work.... The date of disability is determined by SS!

I guess I screwed up on this one! I don’t know where the date of filing came from... Mustabeen a Lyme moment...

Jim  :-))



-----Original Message-----
From: Meredith W. <meredithbw@...>
To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 2:35 pm
Subject: Re: [lymestrategies] SSDI disability

I think usually they pay you from your last day of work not when you file......
 
Has anyone had luck with LTD? I am 3 years out form mine so its a long shot anyway but just wondering....
 
On 1/30/08, JimJax2@aol.com <JimJax2@aol.com> wrote:

 
Hi Suzy,

You are ill with Lyme disease and not collecting SSDI? We have to get you going on this... SSDI is insurance you've paid premiums for in the event you can work because of an illness or disability. It ain't easy to get it, because it takes about 1 1/2 years of traveling through federal crap before you can get approved.... If you are successful, you will receive a big check for back pay... This is usually from the time you file 'til the time you are improved... But, is it worth it, oh yes! Not only do you get a monthly stipend, but you will be eligible for Medicare and to me this is worth more than what they give you each month...

The first thing you need to do is contact Social Security and have them send you the application.... NEXT, hire a SSDI attorney... There should be NO charge to you unless you win your case.... Then, I believe there is a limit set by law that they can charge you... ASK!  You will also need a good doctor or two willing to write a letter on your behalf stating you are disabled and can not work... If you don't have one yet, your attorney should recommend one...

Once you get the attorney and the doctor(s), let me know and I will give you further info...

I know of another group member I've been pushing her to sign up for SSDI for about 4 months, she finally contacted me a few weeks ago for all the details... She is hiring an attorney and making application to SSDI....

You are disabled because of Lyme, but your disability may be for something else, like Fibro or CFS... It is hard to get a dx of Lyme.... That's okay, it all pays the same!

Suzy, this is something you have paid for and are entitled to since you can no longer work.... Don't hesitate, just DO IT! A good way to look at this, either you will get that check every month or the gov't will! Now, who do you want to have that check!!? SSDI employees will do everything they can to see you don't get approved, your attorney will do everything he can to see you do get it... You will get turned down once or twice, then you will go before a federal administrative judge who will decide your case... This is where most folks win their case...

Good luck!
Jim




 
-----Original Message-----
From: starlark <starlark@beyondthetrees.com>
To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:37 pm
Subject: Re: [lymestrategies] SSDI disability



JimJax2@aol.com wrote:
>
>
> Hiya Jim,

> What was the process like for you to get on SSDI disability? It sure
> would take the edge off the worry of how to pay for medical expenses
> or life, when so debilitated! thanks, Suzy
>
> As for disability, are you talking about SSDI (Social Security
> Disability Insurance)? Or LT with a private policy? You certainly are
> qualified to apply for SSDI as you are now unable to work and this is
> what this insurance is for.... I and a good number of other group
> members are on it and some are in the process of applying for it....
> Another BIG benefit of SSDI is Medicare.... All are entitled to it 24
> months after the date of disability...
>
> Take care,
> Jim
>
>
>
> .
>
>
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#68309 From: JimJax2@...
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 3:04 am
Subject: Re: Re: OT: Fluoride in drinking water
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Roger D,

What's to be scared about distilled water? It is the purest water on earth! All one needs to do is add back in minerals, of which I do, Azomite...

I bought a distiller that produces 9 gallons per day, far more than what I can drink! It is automatic for the most part and if I hooked it to my water supply, it would be completely automatic!

Here is a list of distillers on eBay....

http://search.ebay.com/water-distiller_W0QQ_trksidZm37QQfromZR40

Here is a distiller that is similar to mine:

http://cgi.ebay.com/AQUA-D-STAINLESS-STEEL-PURE-WATER-DISTILLER-FILTER_W0QQitemZ120216449091
QQihZ002QQcategoryZ20684QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

The important thing in buying a distiller is you want all the parts that touch the water to be stainless, not plastic.... The one above claims to be all stainess and if it works it is at about the price it should sell for... It also appears it can be hooked to the home cold water supply...


Jim



-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Dilworth <rogerdil@...>
To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:13 pm
Subject: Re: [lymestrategies] Re: OT: Fluoride in drinking water

Thanks Susan and Sam.  I had once investigated a distiller, but I'm not sure what scared me off.  I think it was the large amount of time it took to distill a small amount of water?  Maybe I'm exaggerating, however, and I'll definitely reinvestigate.

Sam <dudehorner@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Salt tabs have no extra minerals added - it's pure sodium chloride.
I use the salt tabs for my main daily consumption and use the
himalayan sea salt liberally on my food simply for all the minerals -
even calcium flouride, NOT sodium flouride. I cannot fathom why any
company would be adding extra sodium flouride to our precious sea
salt which already contains calcium flouride - it simply makes no
sense to me.
Heres where I get my himalayan salt from....

http://www.americanbluegreen.com/

I still think calcium flouride is an essential mineral in the amounts
we get from natural sources such as the Himalayan sea salt - I may be
totally wrong though.

I use bottled water for drinking and know its not the best thing as
someone pointed out earlier with all the plasticisers and such but at
least its distilled. I think it may be time for me to purchase a
distiller - the kind Jim had referred to here many times b/f - please
chime in here Jim with your thoughts and links to a good distiller.
I also use a shower filter for municiple water to rid the flouride
and chlorine. Sure miss my long hot baths though.

Sam

--- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "susan" <ssiegel5@...> wrote:
>
> You can buy a distiller relatively cheap at any Sears type store
and just
> use that for your main source of drinking water. But you need to
add some
> minerals back in. I put the dark willard water in mine. But if
you take
> salt pills you may not need the extra minerals.
>
> Susan S
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Roger Dilworth
> Date: 1/29/2008 2:34:02 PM
> To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [lymestrategies] OT: Fluoride in drinking water
>
> I agree that fluoride is something that shouldn't be consumed, but
I still
> drink filtered water. Are there inexpensive solutions to get rid of
> fluoride in filtered tap? I don't see bottled water as the
solution since,
> per Dr. Clark, it contains propyl alcohol and benzene. Pick your
poison?
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#68308 From: jenny goodhealth <jenny_goodhealth2@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 2:44 am
Subject: [lymestragegies] Fwd: OT-MMS-how to proceed?-Klinghardt Protocol
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Just want to forward the following messages on lyme & rife.
 
jenny -
 
 


jenny goodhealth <jenny_goodhealth2@...> wrote:
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:20:35 -0800 (PST)
From: jenny goodhealth <jenny_goodhealth2@...>
Subject: [Lyme-and-rife] OT-MMS-how to proceed?-Klinghardt Protocol:**To: Sandy Mckenzie Fr: Jenny:
To: jenny goodhealth <jenny_goodhealth2@...>,
Lyme-and-rife@yahoogroups.com, Sandra McKenzie <smcken@...>

Hi, Sandy,
 
Thanks for all the valuable info. Do you know by any chance whether Dr. Klinghardt has any success in treating fibromyaglia ( which is actually the civilian form of gulf war sydrome casued by the bio-engineereed mycoplasma feramantans)?? Also, you said that Dr. klinghardt recommends using chlorella to clean up the neurotxoin while using MMS.  Well, when should we take the chlorella??? 1/2 hour before MMS or may be 1/2 hour after MMS???
 
Please advise.  As I am very sick, I'll be very grateful for your help. 
 
Jenny -

Linda Weston <westonlinda@...> wrote:
Maureen,
I cannot answer for sure.  But the post seems to indicate that you might want to stay at the higher level for a prolonged period of time, which is suggested to be 18 months, to eradicate the spirochetes throughout their life cycle, which is very slow.  By flooding with the MMS, you create an inhospitable environment for the spirochetes (in all their elusive forms) over a long period of time.  Your bacterial load will eventually be substantially reduced, which will enhance the ability of your own immune system to function.
 
Below is the text of the original email that sparked interest recently in the Klinghardt protocol.  You may want to contact Dr. Klinghardt for more information about his testing of patients for Lyme after 6 weeks of MMS.  If his patients are testing positive for Lyme after 6 weeks on his MMS protocol, then it is likely that such testing could be used to measure the progress of the MMS potocol by re-testing at periodic intervals.  -Linda
 
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From: bty276416 <smcken@btopenworld. com>
Subject: [Lyme-and-rife] Lyme and MMS
To: Lyme-and-rife@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, January 21, 2008, 11:35 AM

I just completed a weekend medical seminar in London with Dr Dietrich
Klinghardt.

Klinghardt has been using MMS for the past 2 years to treat Lyme, CFS
and Fibromyalgia. --
with MMS he has found it takes 18 months to clear up all the Lyme and
coinfections.
Read about MMS at http://www.miraclem ineral.org/
A UK source at £20 + p/p for 3 months supply is at
http://miracleminer alsupplement. blogspot. com/

Dr Klinghardt now uses MMS for 6 weeks then sends the patient's blood
for testing. The MMS flushes out the spirochetes and the body starts
making antibodies. He has had 1000 positives in the past year with
patients who previously tested negative. He recommends the Western
Blot test.

 
 
 

--- On Mon, 1/28/08, Maureen Miller <momiller21@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: Maureen Miller <momiller21@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [Lyme-and-rife] OT-MMS-how to proceed?-Klinghardt Protocol
To: Lyme-and-rife@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, January 28, 2008, 8:08 PM

thank you linda. how long do you maintain the 15
drops 3x a day then or 6 drops 2x daily with the 15
drops 2x a week an hour apart? Once you get up to
these drops, you stay on this dosage or do you drop
down?

Maureen

--- Linda Weston <westonlinda@ yahoo.com> wrote:

------------ --------- --------- ---


Maureen,

The Klinghardt dosing protocol (below) was forwarded
to me by Jim from Florida, who posts regularly on this
site. Dr. Klinghardt is a highly respected doctor in
the Seattle area who recently, at a symposium in
London, reported substantial success with MMS for Lyme
patients. I will be trying his protocol b) before
trying to ramp up to 15 drops 3x per day (protocol a).


There is no reason why you cannot use MMS in
conjunction with rife, which many of us are doing.
-Linda

Original Message-----
From: Sandra McKenzie <smcken@btopenworld. com>
To: Lyme-and-rife@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 7:26 am
Subject: [Lyme-and-rife] Re:Best deal of authentic
MMS??

Jennie,

The Klinghardt recommended protocol for Lyme is
a. Start 2 drops MMS twice daily. Increase slowly to
15 drops 3 times/day.
or b. Maintain on 6 drops twice daily and spike once
weekly to 15 drops twice daily exactly one hour apart.

Die off effects (nausea for a few hours most common)

He says it takes 18 months to clear up Lyme due to the
various
life cycles of the spirochetes.

He also recommends Chlorella to remove Lyme
neurotoxins.
1 gamms 3 times/day. Omce week; 5 - 6 gramms 4
times/day.

Sandy McKenzie

--- On Mon, 1/28/08, Maureen Miller
<momiller21@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Maureen Miller <momiller21@yahoo. com>
Subject: [Lyme-and-rife] OT- MMS users- how to
proceed?
To: Lyme-and-rife@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, January 28, 2008, 7:27 AM

okay, got my bottle of MMS, how should I proceed with
this? start with one or two drops and add a drop a day
until i get sick then back down until i am able to get
to 15 drops- what happens when you get to 15 drops- do
it twice a day, then what? for how long? do you go
back down? what are you other lymies doing who are
using this? any good results yet?

Maureen

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#68307 From: Kurt Milkowski <kurt.milkowski@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 2:16 am
Subject: Fwd: [Avian2005] Alzheimer's.....Substances to AVOID!
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No mention of Bb of course in this, but good info anyway.

Note: forwarded message attached.

Alzheimer's.....Substances to AVOID!
 

January 29, 2008
 
Dr. Russell Blaylock was a guest today on Dr. Stan Monteith’s program. They were discussing neurological diseases, mainly Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s.
 
The amyloidal plaque in the brain is not the cause, it’s only a result.
 
 
 
One of the biggest causes of Alzheimer’s is inflammation. Chronic inflammation can lead to Alzheimer’s such as rheumatoid arthritis etc.  If one takes aspirin regularly their chances of getting Alzheimer’s goes way down.  The big problem with that is aspirin can lead to stomach trouble. 
 
 There are other things which can cut down inflammation which work such as curcumin (flavanoid). Curcumin works best when taken with oil and absorbs much better as curcumin alone generally does not absorb well. Also quercetin (flavanoid) is recommended and silimarin as well as other antioxidants. 
 
CoQ10 removes iron and does quercetin. Selenium removes mercury. Vit C and natural Vit. E are recommended. Blueberry extract is recommended. Resveratrol will reverse sugar damage (high sugar being very damaging) White teas is recommended.
 
 Avoid MSG (often labeled as many other things such as hydrolyzed yeast, etc.). Do not spray pesticides indoors; use boric acid (or soap spray). Avoid aspartame.
 
Exercise has been protective against Alzheimer’s (exercise also increases lifespan). Abdominal fat increases inflammation and is to be avoided.
 
Public water is to be avoided because of the aluminum and fluoride. Avoid baking powder. Remove mercury fillings and replace with ceramic fillings (only remove mercury fillings by a competent dentist knowledgeable in mercury removal). Progesterone is protective as long as it’s natural. You can get this from a compounding pharmacist. Artificial progesterone is damaging! Susanne Sommers wrote books on natural hormones.
 
 
 
Another thing that leads to Alzheimer’s is repeated immunizations such as yearly flu shots (10 fold increase in susceptibility—also with Parkinson’s).  Generally when someone caches a disease it leads to inflammation of the brain but as soon as the disease is fought off the brain also recovers. With the flu shot the brain does not recover due to a constant immune reaction, this leads brain cell destruction and Alzheimer’s. The adjutants in the vaccines add to the problem because of a more rapid reaction. With early Alzheimer’s, infections lead to a more rapid progression of the Alzheimer’s. Vaccines to the elderly are very risky! Multiple vaccines are even a bigger problem.
 
 
 
Other things that lead to Alzheimer’s and also Parkinson’s is mercury (nano-molar) and aluminum and excess iron. Parkinson’s can be caused by the pesticide Rotenone (as well as others). Only a very small amount of Rotenone can do this. If you also vaccinate and are exposed to Rotenone then the effect is multiplied even further.
 
Even head trauma and strokes can lead to the problem. High omega-6 oils can lead to the problem as they increase inflammation. The omega-3 in fish oils help to reduce the problem, 2 to 3 grams. The DHA in the fish oil appears to be the desirable constituent in fish oil. Too much of the DEA component is not desirable.
 
 
 
Another thing that can cause neurological inflammation and Alzheimer’s is food allergies (milk has been indicated and grains as possible allergens). Food allergies don’t always lead to obvious gastro-intestinal problems and therefore go undetected.  However, they cause neurological problems. Therefore food allergies should be tested for.
 
 
 
People also have high levels of free radicals in their brains and inflammatory products. They have low vitamin C levels in the brain as well as homocysteine in the brain and other vitamins. These can be caused by inflammation. Herpes (dormant, but chroni) can lead to Alzheimer’s.  Alzheimer brains have high glutamate and cytokines. Insulin can lead to inflammation in the brain. Chronic Chlamydia and microplasms, viruses etc can lead to the problem.
 
 
 
Diabetes, atherosclerosis, strokes etc. can lead to Alzheimer’s. When you age there is a more strong immune reaction which can lead to Alzheimer’s.
 
 
 
The mother can pass on a viral problem to the fetus and the child will be susceptible throughout life to Alzheimer’s and other neurological diseases. Flu shots to the pregnant women (proposed) is another disaster in the making even leading to schizophrenic children.
 
 
 
Dr. Blaylock has recently written some peer-reviewed papers on the problem and plans to write even more papers outlining the problem
 
 
 
 
 
 
Neil Miller authored a new book, the Vaccine Safety Manual and it should be out this summer.  Dr. Blaylock wrote the forward to the book.
 
 




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Date: Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:05 pm
Subject: Who Is Barack Obama? The REAL snopes story
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#68305 From: JimJax2@...
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 1:11 am
Subject: Re: Neem and Oral Health
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Hi Craig,

I highly recommend “oil pulling.† I brougth this protocol to the group about a year ago and many have had excellent results with it... Not only will you have a clean and healthy mouth, gums and teeth, it will also remove toxins from your body....

It is important to follow the directions and only use the oil specified...

Best,
Jim




***************Here is the proper way to do oil pulling.****************

http://www.oilpulling.com/

On an empty stomach, best before breakfast:

Take 1 Tbls of cold pressed sunflower or seasme oil. Swish briskly in mouth, between teeth, gums, etc.,  for 20 minutes. DON'T SWALLOW any (very toxic)... This starts out with thick clean oil, ends up with a with thin white toxic liquid in your mouth.

Then spit out, but not in sink as it is very toxic. Use a waste basket or toilet. Then rinse mouth 3 times, spit out in sink.

Then, brush teeth completely... Also brush gums, tongue and roof of mouth. I then swish with hydrogen peroxide for a few minutes... I use Tooth Soap!

Then, be sure to sanitize sink after... I use hydrogen peroxide. I buy a qt bottle of 3% at Wal-Mart, remove the cap and put a sprayer top in its place (buy an empty qt spray bottle, use the sprayer). A great way to sanitize bath and kitchen countertops!

This pulls a lot of toxins from the body and completely refreshens the mouth!

Do this 3 times a day, always on an empty stomach... If you don't eat between meals, the best time to do this is before eating breakfast, lunch and dinner...

Best,
Jim





-----Original Message-----
From: fontdog <fontdog@...>
To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 7:43 pm
Subject: [lymestrategies] Neem and Oral Health

Anyone got any good recommendations for gum/mouth health? I've heard
good stuff about Neem, but don't know a good source. Does it come in
an oil? How do you use it?

Cheers,
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#68304 From: "Meredith W." <meredithbw@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 1:06 am
Subject: Re: MMS stories of sucess
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#68303 From: JimJax2@...
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 12:19 am
Subject: Re: Re: The Unchronic Ones
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Lyme is actually two diseases....

The acute phase if treated quickly with Doxcycline or Amoxicillin has a high rate of success....

The chronic phase which feels nothing like the acute phase is much harder to treat with abx and often natural alternatives are more effective... For sure, they are less toxic and don't damage the body as the abx can...

Jim



-----Original Message-----
From: Avril <loullew3@...>
To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:57 am
Subject: [lymestrategies] Re: The Unchronic Ones

Hi Sal,

If these people were treated fairly quickly after the tick bite, abx
could wipe out Lyme disease. If someone has chronic Lyme, then a
skilled doctor could rotate abx and use some cyst busters and
conceivably bring their Lyme under control. The doctor who diagnosed
me, was "cured" of Lyme within 10 months after being treated with
abx. His cure was considered a wonder. Unfortunately, he recently had
two heart attacks and has retired from his practice. I have to wonder
if his Lyme & Co. was truly under control.

The people you talked to may have other health conditions going on
that they do not connect with Lyme. Lyme is a very good mimicker.

These are just a few thoughts on the people that you talked with.

Blessings,
Avril

In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, creekhopper@... wrote:
>
> I know a woman at yoga who was sick for 10 years with lyme. She
then started to swing to the better and has for over 10 years been
fine! I dont think she treated the lyme with anything. She "lost" ten
years of feeling good and productive, but she is fine!
> I met a woman today who runs a wild life rescue center. She
contacted lyme in 2004. She was given amoxicillin for a while (not
more than a few months), the doxy for 5 weeks and now she is fine.
Of course the lyme could be dormant, but maybe not?
> I met a woman at the library who had lyme 5 years ago. I think a
little time on abx and she has been fine for 5 years.. thinking cysts
can hold out that long, but maybe not?!
> A friend had a lyme test that came back with no positive bands. The
nurse told her that was odd because most people around here test
positive on a couple of bands.. yet they are not all sick.
> So it is genetics.. the terrain, as they say... state of mind
(sounds like an insult, but even Dr. B stated that he could tell who
would get better and who would not by their demeanor)? What is it?
> Sal
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#68302 From: Andrea Taubman <fuzzylegs@...>
Date: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:10 pm
Subject: RE: Non salt/C: Who is Barack Obama ?
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I'm chiming in here too.  I agree with Dana and the sender of this last email.  I consider myself a victim of a personal attack by a religious/poltical message sent here awhile back (though it was not intentionally aimed at me).  It is a very uncomfortable feeling and it serves no good purpose to the group to send out potentially divisive information.  I stay because I appreciate the vast majority of people who use this site to relay info about lyme, coinfections, salt / c and other treatment options.  And that is what this group is supposed to be about. 
 I keep my mouth shut here all the time about my very liberal political and religious views.  The only way that this group will continue to run well is if we cast our differences aside and focus on the common cause.  Isn't that why we all joined up in the first place?  Theres only about 10 million places on the internet to talk about the campaign and the candidates.  I have said this before and I'll say it again.  If you were a new person coming onto this list, in desperate need of help, kinship, and support, and what you saw was certain non-lyme related emails dividing the members, how safe would you feel joining up?
 
-Andrea



To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
From: Woodi16@...
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:13:22 -0500
Subject: Re: [lymestrategies] Non salt/C: Who is Barack Obama ?

I agree exactly with everything that Dana said.
 
I found the email about Obama extremely upsetting. I am pretty close to unsubscribing as it is. There are people here who make assumptions that everyone else here thinks like they do, which is NOT the case. I have endured all the Ron Paul endorsements, and he is certainly not MY candidate. I actually worked on the Draft Al Gore campaign all fall and not once did I send an email about him or his values to this forum.
 
The notion that this is a Christian nation above all else, or that everyone has to be patriotic by respecting the flag and singing the national anthem is a bit on the narrow side. The Muslim population is quite large, ranking as the second largest religion in the world. Why shouldn't someone who is Muslim be as deserving to serve as president as someone who is Christian?
 
Thank you so much for speaking up Dana!
 
 
In a message dated 1/31/2008 2:12:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, danablack@sbcglobal.net writes:

Please don’t send this sort of thing through this group. There’s way too much nastiness in politics as it is. I don’t know if this is true or not (Snopes.com or not), and in any case, it only serves to confuse and inflame (presenting only one side of the person and making assumptions and presenting what are probably half truths at best). As we have said before (many of us as well as Marc the list owner) this is not a political forum. If you’re going to form an opinion about a candidate, how about doing some of your own research instead of basing your opinion on something like this. I don’t know much about Obama, but I’ll probably take a much closer look before forming an opinion. And by the way, if you plan on voting in the presidential election, I hope you’ll do some careful research on anyone you choose before voting. The mainstream media is a not much more than propaganda machine.

Dana


 




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#68301 From: Woodi16@...
Date: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:13 pm
Subject: Re: Non salt/C: Who is Barack Obama ?
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I agree exactly with everything that Dana said.
 
I found the email about Obama extremely upsetting. I am pretty close to unsubscribing as it is. There are people here who make assumptions that everyone else here thinks like they do, which is NOT the case. I have endured all the Ron Paul endorsements, and he is certainly not MY candidate. I actually worked on the Draft Al Gore campaign all fall and not once did I send an email about him or his values to this forum.
 
The notion that this is a Christian nation above all else, or that everyone has to be patriotic by respecting the flag and singing the national anthem is a bit on the narrow side. The Muslim population is quite large, ranking as the second largest religion in the world. Why shouldn't someone who is Muslim be as deserving to serve as president as someone who is Christian?
 
Thank you so much for speaking up Dana!
 
 
In a message dated 1/31/2008 2:12:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, danablack@... writes:

Please don’t send this sort of thing through this group. There’s way too much nastiness in politics as it is. I don’t know if this is true or not (Snopes.com or not), and in any case, it only serves to confuse and inflame (presenting only one side of the person and making assumptions and presenting what are probably half truths at best). As we have said before (many of us as well as Marc the list owner) this is not a political forum. If you’re going to form an opinion about a candidate, how about doing some of your own research instead of basing your opinion on something like this. I don’t know much about Obama, but I’ll probably take a much closer look before forming an opinion. And by the way, if you plan on voting in the presidential election, I hope you’ll do some careful research on anyone you choose before voting. The mainstream media is a not much more than propaganda machine.

Dana


 




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#68300 From: "susan" <ssiegel5@...>
Date: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:43 pm
Subject: Re: ot-- liquidzeolitecompany on ebay-buy 3 get 10 (no droppers)free for $65.00 good info too
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Thanks for the heads up!  I got 10.
 
Susan S 
 
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#68299 From: Woodi16@...
Date: Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:40 pm
Subject: Re: SSDI disability
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Hi Suzy,
 
I hope that for your sake, that you are able to get some kind of financial assistance. It's worth a call to Social Security anyway. If that doesn't pan out, you may be eligible for SSI (supplemental something insurance) or your particular state may have its own disability. Although I no longer live there, NJ had some sort of state assistance.
 
Good luck!
Marci
 
In a message dated 1/31/2008 3:34:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, starlark@... writes:
Hi Jim and Marci,
    Thanks for the info! I guess I oughta give them a call, as it sounds
from what you say Marci, like I wouldn't be eligible, since I've been
sick for so many years and living very low on the hog. Haven't made
enough $$$ to anywhere near qualify for SS yet, and at this rate, it's
could be awhile! Anyway, it's worth investigating once I get out of this
big herx that's leaving me with a cotton candy brain! love, Suzy

Woodi16@... wrote:
>
> This is good advice, but makes the assumption that EVERYONE is
> eligible for Social Security Disability, which is just not true.
> Eligible folks have to have worked and paid into Social Security for a
> certain number of quarters. A call to your local Social Security
> office will help you determine that.

> Marci

 




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#68298 From: starlark <starlark@...>
Date: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:34 pm
Subject: Re: SSDI disability
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Hi Jim and Marci,
     Thanks for the info! I guess I oughta give them a call, as it sounds
from what you say Marci, like I wouldn't be eligible, since I've been
sick for so many years and living very low on the hog. Haven't made
enough $$$ to anywhere near qualify for SS yet, and at this rate, it's
could be awhile! Anyway, it's worth investigating once I get out of this
big herx that's leaving me with a cotton candy brain! love, Suzy

Woodi16@... wrote:
>
> This is good advice, but makes the assumption that EVERYONE is
> eligible for Social Security Disability, which is just not true.
> Eligible folks have to have worked and paid into Social Security for a
> certain number of quarters. A call to your local Social Security
> office will help you determine that.
>
> Marci
>
> In a message dated 1/30/2008 1:36:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> JimJax2@... writes:
>
>     Hi Suzy,
>
>     You are ill with Lyme disease and not collecting SSDI? We have to
>     get you going on this... SSDI is insurance you've paid premiums
>     for in the event you can work because of an illness or disability.
>     It ain't easy to get it, because it takes about 1 1/2 years of
>     traveling through federal crap before you can get approved.... If
>     you are successful, you will receive a big check for back pay...
>     This is usually from the time you file ‘til the time you are
>     improved... But, is it worth it, oh yes! Not only do you get a
>     monthly stipend, but you will be eligible for Medicare and to me
>     this is worth more than what they give you each month...
>
>     The first thing you need to do is contact Social Security and have
>     them send you the application.... NEXT, hire a SSDI attorney...
>     There should be NO charge to you unless you win your case....
>     Then, I believe there is a limit set by law that they can charge
>     you... ASK!  You will also need a good doctor or two willing to
>     write a letter on your behalf stating you are disabled and can not
>     work... If you don’t have one yet, your attorney should recommend
>     one...
>
>     Once you get the attorney and the doctor(s), let me know and I
>     will give you further info...
>
>     I know of another group member I’ve been pushing her to sign up
>     for SSDI for about 4 months, she finally contacted me a few weeks
>     ago for all the details... She is hiring an attorney and making
>     application to SSDI....
>
>     You are disabled because of Lyme, but your disability may be for
>     something else, like Fibro or CFS... It is hard to get a dx of
>     Lyme.... That’s okay, it all pays the same!
>
>     Suzy, this is something you have paid for and are entitled to
>     since you can no longer work.... Don’t hesitate, just DO IT! A
>     good way to look at this, either you will get that check every
>     month or the gov’t will! Now, who do you want to have that
>     check!!? SSDI employees will do everything they can to see you
>     don’t get approved, your attorney will do everything he can to see
>     you do get it... You will get turned down once or twice, then you
>     will go before a federal administrative judge who will decide your
>     case... This is where most folks win their case...
>
>     Good luck!
>     Jim
>
>
>
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: starlark <starlark@...>
>     To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
>     Sent: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:37 pm
>     Subject: Re: [lymestrategies] SSDI disability
>
>
>
>     JimJax2@... <mailto:JimJax2%40aol.com> wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     > Hiya Jim,
>
>     > What was the process like for you to get on SSDI disability? It
>     sure
>     > would take the edge off the worry of how to pay for medical
>     expenses
>     > or life, when so debilitated! thanks, Suzy
>     >
>     > As for disability, are you talking about SSDI (Social Security
>     > Disability Insurance)? Or LT with a private policy? You
>     certainly are
>     > qualified to apply for SSDI as you are now unable to work and
>     this is
>     > what this insurance is for.... I and a good number of other group
>     > members are on it and some are in the process of applying for
>     it....
>     > Another BIG benefit of SSDI is Medicare.... All are entitled to
>     it 24
>     > months after the date of disability...
>     >
>     > Take care,
>     > Jim
>     >
>     >
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#68294 From: "Dana Black" <danablack@...>
Date: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:11 pm
Subject: RE: Non salt/C: Who is Barack Obama ?
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Please don’t send this sort of thing through this group. There’s way too much nastiness in politics as it is. I don’t know if this is true or not (Snopes.com or not), and in any case, it only serves to confuse and inflame (presenting only one side of the person and making assumptions and presenting what are probably half truths at best). As we have said before (many of us as well as Marc the list owner) this is not a political forum. If you’re going to form an opinion about a candidate, how about doing some of your own research instead of basing your opinion on something like this. I don’t know much about Obama, but I’ll probably take a much closer look before forming an opinion. And by the way, if you plan on voting in the presidential election, I hope you’ll do some careful research on anyone you choose before voting. The mainstream media is a not much more than propaganda machine.

Dana


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Date: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:02 pm
Subject: FW: Who is Barack Obama ?
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:32:36 -0800
From: marciaholiday@...
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Subject: Fwd: Who is Barack Obama ?

This was forwarded to me by a friend who often sends me items that make me stop and think seriously about preconceived ideas or media images.  I believe it is certainly something to look into further before placing a vote on Primary Day.  I don't endorse the information as I have not yet had time to do research on it, but felt it important enough to want to pass on to friends who are looking for change and have liked much of what he seems to say.  If any of you go further with research and find info to add, please send back to me!
 


>Who Is Barack Obama?
>
> Very interesting and something that should be considered in your
choice.
> If you do not ever forward anything else, please forward this to all
your
> contacts...this is very scary to think of what lies ahead of us
> here in our own United States...better heed this and pray about it and

> share it.
>
> We checked this out on ' snopes.com'. It is factual. Check for
yourself.
>
> <http://snopes.com/ Who is Barack Obama?
>
> Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born
in
> Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a  black MUSLIM from
> Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHIEST from Wichita,
> Kansas.
>
> Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii. When Obama was two
years
> old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya. His mother
then
> married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indo nesia.
> When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama
> attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta. He also spent two years in a
Catholic
> school.
>
> Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is
> quick to point out that, 'He was once a Muslim, but that he also
attended
> Catholic school.'
>
> Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that he is
not
> a radical.
>
> Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this
influence
> was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya
soon
> after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his
son's
> education.
>
> Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham,
introduced
> his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in
Jakarta.
>
> Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim
terrorists
> who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Since it is
> politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major
> public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined
the
> United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim
background.
> ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office
> he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran.
>
> Barack Hussein Obama will NOT recite the Pledge of Allegiance nor will
he
> show any reverence for our flag.  While others place their hands over
> their hearts, Obama turns his back to the flag and slouches.
>
> Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential
> candidacy.
>
> The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside
out,
> what better way to start than at the highest level - through the
President
> of the United States, one of their own!!!!
>
> Please forward to everyone you know. Would you want this man leading
our
> country?
>
******
This is what I found on snopes.com.  I sure hope this man isn't a
terrorist.
But, to be running for the President of this United States, and not pay
honor to our flag!  Again, this could be an interpetation misquoted.
???
But, read and inquire, certainly before voting for him..



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#68292 From: Shirley Earley <doitbestshirley@...>
Date: Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:45 pm
Subject: Re:shirley-- OT homeopathy for lyme?
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Roger the SCIO has therapies to treat the bacteria, virus, prasites ect, they also have homeopahtic remedies that i treat with from the SCIO and the updated version has the monastery herbs that I posted about, they are an interesting group of herbs from this company, four I think, that they have put the energetic frequencies into the scio.  This is the first homeopathics for lyme that I have seen on the SCIO.  We have recommended areas to go to that affect the lyme  bugs.  I use test kits on the SCIO to see if the body wants the supplement or homeopathic,  The SCIO  is also capable of making a homeopathic supplement that is recommended for you during your testing session.   hope this answers your question.  shirley e


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#68291 From: "rrusty" <rrusty@...>
Date: Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:02 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Neem and Oral Health
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thanks, Dana!
 
Rusty
 


From: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com [mailto:lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dana Black
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:10 PM
To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [lymestrategies] Re: Neem and Oral Health

Hi Rusty-

Yes, it’s on the LS site. Go to the files section and scroll down to the file named “Dental Health.” Click on that file and you’ll find it. I was going to post it as an email message, but it’s 7 pages so really too long to send through the group.

Here’s the link to the HydrogenPeroxide group:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/HydrogenPeroxide/

Best,

Dana


From: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com [mailto:lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rrusty

Hi Dana,

so we'll access it from the links on the LS site?

I'm interested in the hydrogen peroxide group... how do I check it out?

I just ordered hydrogen peroxide which I'm pretty sure is 35% from Azure Standard so I will be able to do whateve it is people are doing with it.

I remember something abaout spraying it on in the shower, waiting a few minutes, then rinsing off.

thanks,

Rusty

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Date: Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:44 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Neem and Oral Health
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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/HydrogenPeroxide/

 


From: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com [mailto:lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fontdog
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:14 AM
To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [lymestrategies] Re: Neem and Oral Health

 

Thanks, this is great information. What is the name of the H2O2
group?

--- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "Dana Black" <danablack@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Craig-
>
> Someone from the hydrogen peroxide group posted a message a while
back that
> talked about this very subject. It's a pretty long article written
by a
> dentist, so I turned it into a pdf and will upload it to the files
section.
> It's a great article that talks about gum recession and how to fix
it among
> many other things.
>
> Best,
>
> Dana
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of fontdog
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 2:23 PM
> To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [lymestrategies] Re: Neem and Oral Health
>
>
>
> Slightly bleeding gums that began with this mycoplasma infection
that
> I haven't been able to shake over the last 3 weeks. I may have a
> very, very slightly loose back molar (will have my dentist check it
> soon). All dental exams have been good but I have had a bit of gum
> recession during this Lyme + Bart ordeal -probably due to
occasional
> minor gum infections. My dentist is not concerned but I like to
> optimize and reduce the load on my immune system!
>
> I just started swishing hydrogen peroxide around in my mouth a few
> times per day, which seems to be helping quite a bit, but also
seemt
> to make some areas slightly sore (as well as a few molars too) but
I
> wanted to know if there was additional support I could do long term.
>
> Cheers,
> Craig
>
> --- In lymestrategies@ <mailto:lymestrategies%40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com, Suemassie45@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 1/29/08 7:43:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > fontdog@ writes:
> >
> > Anyone got any good recommendations for gum/mouth health? I've
> heard
> > good stuff about Neem, but don't know a good source. Does it come
> in
> > an oil? How do you use it?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Craig
> >
> >
> >
> > Craig-
> > What is going on with your mouth?? sores, loose teeth, gums
> bleeding?? Neem
> > oil is not for internal use but organic neem can be taken
> internally. I carry
> > Premier Research labs in my business.
> > Awaiting your reply.
> >
> > blessings
> >
> > sue massie, CNHP
> > 732 933 4011
> >
> >
> >
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#68289 From: RRM <rmor67@...>
Date: Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:23 pm
Subject: Lyme Disease - Borrelia burgdoferi-
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The short snyopsis above represents countless hours of pouring over dozens of research papers, all of which are over my head, in trying to find a needle or two with which I could use to try to weave a better understanding of this absolutely remarkably intelligent lifeform.
The scant information offered is dismally dissappointing given the amount of effort I have thus far put into it.
I will in the future focus on the Plasmids of Borrelia burgdorferi and their actions within the bacteria and their effects on mamiallian host. This new effort will simply be in the form of Research Papers submitted to the various institutions, in the form of pdf files to the appropiate thread.(as I just learned to do this morning).
Small animals such as mice carry this bacteria around with them. They spread it around to other ticks. It is still is a mystery why it is so widespread. At least it is to me. Thirty years ago you would have been hard pressed to find a person with this disease. It is common place in my area.

Don't forget about migratory birds as well as local bird species. These airway "vectors" have tremendous potential for the spreading this lifeform anywhere. Its just a matter of time.
And speaking of airways its interesting to note that Jeff Sutherland frequently finds Lyme disease in the chemtrails using his methodology.
It occurred to me while doing this research that these chemtrails may contain mutant forms of Borrelia burgdorferi that has been genetically modified to interrupt the inffectivity of the current strain on human populations or to especially interfear with the virulance factors associated with the organism.Modification of certain genes in borrelia would allow the immune system to mop up the mess.....

I keep mentioning Char Boehm (DNA Pathogen Frequencies (http://www.dnafrequencies.com/) )and her method of devitalization because I'm convinced that any other method could possibly cause the spirochette to revert to a cystic defense posture untill the host environment is once again friendly. This would explain why reports of continuous hits are reported time and time again by users of frequency appliances.
I wish you and your wife all the best.
randall

Thanks for all of the good information Randall. I appreciate the effort you put into this. It is no wonder Chronic Lyme is such a difficult disease to cure.

Small animals such as mice carry this bacteria around with them. They spread it around to other ticks. It is still is a mystery why it is so widespread. At least it is to me. Thirty years ago you would have been hard pressed to find a person with this disease. It is common place in my area.

Don't forget about migratory birds as well as local bird species. These airway "vectors" have tremendous potential for the spreading this lifeform anywhere. Its just a matter of time.
And speaking of airways its interesting to note that Jeff Sutherland frequently finds Lyme disease in the chemtrails using his methodology.
It occurred to me while doing this research that these chemtrails may contain mutant forms of Borrelia burgdorferi that has been genetically modified to interrupt the inffectivity of the current strain on human populations or to especially interfear with the virulance factors associated with the organism.Modification of certain genes in borrelia would allow the immune system to mop up the mess.....

I keep mentioning Char Boehm (DNA Pathogen Frequencies (http://www.dnafrequencies.com/) )and her method of devitalization because I'm convinced that any other method could possibly cause the spirochette to revert to a cystic defense posture untill the host environment is once again friendly. This would explain why reports of continuous hits are reported time and time again by users of frequency appliances.
I wish you and your wife all the best.



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