Dana-certain antibiotics are associated with leukemia.  It's too bad she won't see a good homeopath.  i think annything that contributes to toxic load in the body contributes to cellular damage that takes its toll, and heredity/environmental exposures dictate where it shows up. I will keep your friend in my prayers as well

Connie <conniekillbug@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "Dana Black" <danablack@...> wrote:
>
Hi Dana,

I'm so sorry to hear about your friend. I don't know if Lyme can
directly cause leukemia, but it does make people more susceptible to
cancer, for whatever reason.
That's too bad she's not open to alternative treatments--Rife has a
pretty spectacular record for treating cancer.
I wish her well and will be praying for her.

Blessings,

Connie
www.lymebytes.blogspot.com

> Hi all-
>
> I just found out a friend has been diagnosed with leukemia. She had
Lyme a
> few years ago, was treated with antibiotics at that time, and seemed OK
> after that. At this point, she's been given a month to live and is
> undergoing a bone marrow transplant. This lady has tons of money, but I
> don't know if it will help. Anyway, any thoughts? I guess maybe even
if Lyme
> is a factor, she may be too sick to be helped by more antibiotics or
such as
> that. And as far as I know they're not into alternatives (she's a
friend but
> not a close one -- I knew her when I used to ride horses).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dana
>

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--- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "jan" <jpos123@...> wrote:
>
Hi Jan,

Lyme can cause brain lesions. But fortunately for us, the brain can
regenerate and recover much of the damage done to it :)

Connie
www.lymebytes.blogspot.com

> I have brain lesions and that with the symptoms I was having is why
> they misdiag me with MS.  Does Lyme cause brain lesions?  That's what
> I assumed it was from.  Or does Ehrlichiosis only?
>
> jan
>
> --- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "Avril" <loullew3@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Brad,
> >
> > You might want to go to www.lymecommunity.com
> > <http://www.lymecommunity.com>  and check out Linda's blog. She has
> tons
> > of articles about studies that connect various brain anomalies with
> Lyme
> > disease. She used to post the articles here and I remember one that
> > showed that plaque/lesions on the brain are sometimes caused by
> > Ehrlichiosis...a co-infection of Lyme.
> >
> > I tried to search for that article recently (on this forum) and
> couldn't
> > find it. If anyone else can find it and post it here, that would be
> > great! Perhaps, Brad, you could find a similar article in Linda's
> blog,
> > under "news", and take it to your docs.
> >
> > Blessings, Avril
> >
>

--- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, Susan Blanton <sueblanton@...>
wrote:

Hi Susan,

I don't think I mentioned that adrenal cortex extract is the same as
cortisone. I agree with you that it is not, it is natural cortisol.
The point I meant to get across is that some natural products that say
"adrenal cortex extract" on the bottle may or may not contain active
cortisol.
I also agree that synthetic cortisone is far worse than natural
cortisol; however, the action on the adrenal glands is similar, in
that both are designed to provide cortisol to the body, whether this
be synthetic or natural. Hence, I do believe that extreme caution
should also be warranted in the case of taking natural cortisol, as
while this is far better than cortisone, it nonetheless can shut down
the adrenals if taken everyday and/or in improper doses. As well, too
much can weaken the immune system.

Thanks for your input,

Connie
www.lymebytes.blogspot.com
>
> Connie,
>
> I don't think that Adrenal Cortex Extract is the same
> as cortisone.  It is a natural cortisol and is
> effective for many things including allergies. The
> difference between these two is like the difference
> between natural armour thyroid and synthroid, or
> natural hormone replacement therapy and premarin.
> There is a difference of opinions over the safety of
> adrenal cortex extract as many who think of it as
> unsafe equate it with cortisone which is not safe.  I
> believe that when you have exhausted adrenals, it is
> important to take some glandulars and a natural
> adrenal cortex extract supplement to help your
> adrenals.  If your adrenals aren't functioning
> properly then every thing else including the thyroid
> doesn't functiion properly either.  It is the domino
> effect.  You have to use your own judgement and listen
> to your body, what works for one may not work as well
> for others.  If you have a trusted practitioner, I
> would talk to them about it.
>
> Susan
>
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Well I'm off the abx cocktail and had the best couple of days yet,
with the exception of some night sweats which showed up about 10
days ago.  Wake at 3:30 am, sweating, can't go back to sleep.  you
all know the deal.  Interestingly, several lymph nodes had reduced
much in size during the abx treatment, but now that I am off of
them, they are even more reduced.  I think I killed enough Bb to get
my immune system functioning again, and am experiencing a herx while
not taking abx.  It is full moon as well.

In fact, I know I have since my lympocytes are finally in the low
normal range.  My CD57 test, which I got back today is, showed a
count of only 35.  Dr. B says that they should be >60 to be out of
the woods.  So, I've still got some work to do.

Usually, when folks get off the abx they relapse.  My gut tells me
different.  I'm doing salt C as well which should keep things moving
in the right direction.

I can also tolerate carbs again.  I am taking it pretty easy but
after eating steamed green vegetables and turkey for 3 years, food
is finally an enjoyable part of my day.

I'll keep ya'll posted.

Connie,

I don't think that Adrenal Cortex Extract is the same
as cortisone.  It is a natural cortisol and is
effective for many things including allergies. The
difference between these two is like the difference
between natural armour thyroid and synthroid, or
natural hormone replacement therapy and premarin.
There is a difference of opinions over the safety of
adrenal cortex extract as many who think of it as
unsafe equate it with cortisone which is not safe.  I
believe that when you have exhausted adrenals, it is
important to take some glandulars and a natural
adrenal cortex extract supplement to help your
adrenals.  If your adrenals aren't functioning
properly then every thing else including the thyroid
doesn't functiion properly either.  It is the domino
effect.  You have to use your own judgement and listen
to your body, what works for one may not work as well
for others.  If you have a trusted practitioner, I
would talk to them about it.

Susan

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I have brain lesions and that with the symptoms I was having is why
they misdiag me with MS.  Does Lyme cause brain lesions?  That's what
I assumed it was from.  Or does Ehrlichiosis only?

jan

--- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "Avril" <loullew3@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Brad,
>
> You might want to go to www.lymecommunity.com
> <http://www.lymecommunity.com>  and check out Linda's blog. She has
tons
> of articles about studies that connect various brain anomalies with
Lyme
> disease. She used to post the articles here and I remember one that
> showed that plaque/lesions on the brain are sometimes caused by
> Ehrlichiosis...a co-infection of Lyme.
>
> I tried to search for that article recently (on this forum) and
couldn't
> find it. If anyone else can find it and post it here, that would be
> great! Perhaps, Brad, you could find a similar article in Linda's
blog,
> under "news", and take it to your docs.
>
> Blessings, Avril
>

	February 28, 2007
	National Vaccine Information Center A young boy on the beach was throwing the washed-up starfish back into the ocean. A stranger passing by told him not to bother, because it would not make any difference, there were thousands of beaches and millions of starfish, and it would not be possible to save all of them. The boy reached down, picked up a starfish, threw it back into the ocean and said, smiling softly, " I made a difference for that one!"

	e-NEWS: "Details continue to emerge about the lonely life of [Virginia Tech] killer Seung-Hui Cho, who had a history of mental illness. Among Cho's effects, officials found prescription medications related to the treatment of psychological problems.....There are dozens of other examples of violence at schools and the presence of antidepressants, but the carnage hardly is limited to our campuses. Countless families have been destroyed around the world through homicides and suicides committed by adults on antidepressants.....The list (which can be found at www.drugawareness.org) encompasses hundreds and hundreds of cases.....Most antidepressant drugs, including Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Luvox, Celexa, Lexapro and Effexor, are known as selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, which alter brain chemistry in an attempt to manage depression......A recent study by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that half of all Americans take at least one prescription drug, and that antidepressant use has nearly tripled in the past decade...." - Ty Phillips, Modesto Bee, April 29, 2007 "Despite efforts to curb drug companies' avid courting of doctors, the industry is working harder than ever to influence what medicines they prescribe, sending out sales representatives with greater frequency and plying physicians with gifts, meals and consulting fees, according to several new papers. One study published in the New England Journal of Medicine last week found that 94 percent of doctors have some type of relationship with the drug industry -- most commonly accepting free food or drug samples, which about 80 percent of physicians did.....28 percent said they had been paid for consulting, giving lectures or signing up patients for clinical trials......"We now know that virtually every doctor in the United States has some form of relationship with the pharmaceutical industry," said Eric G. Campbell, lead researcher of the New England Journal of Medicine study and an assistant professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School. "They are common. A quarter receive honoraria or some form of payment for their services, and that was much higher than we expected." - Christopher Lee, Washington Post, April 29, 2007 "The researchers found dysfunction in common brain regions in reviews of brain imaging data from 41 murderers, from a study group suffering from aggressive impulsive personality disorder, and from a group diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder. They also reviewed data from two individuals who suffered early damage to the two regions of the brain in question. Those individuals, injured early in life, both showed histories of verbal and physical abusiveness and intermittent, explosive bursts of anger. The research paper also described a large group of subjects who have a genetic deficit that causes a disruption in the brain's serotonin levels. The serotonin system employs many of the brain regions described earlier and a disruption of the system has been linked to increased aggression. Davidson's analysis showed that these emotion-controlling brain regions showed less activity in the individuals who carried this genetic abnormality. Davidson stresses that the research points to both genetics and poor environmental history as potential contributors to impulsive violence, and together they present a "double whammy" that put people at much greater risk. "These parts of the brain are particularly responsive to experiential shaping," Davidson says." - Science Daily, August 15, 2000 "A retrospective study of brain investigations of 372 male patients in a maximum- security mental hospital patients is described......In the most violent group, 20% had focal temporal electrical abnormalities on EEG (slowing and/or sharp waves) and 41% had structural abnormalities localised to temporal lobe on CT....These results suggest that high violence rating scores are associated with temporal lobe abnormalities on CT and abnormal temporal electrical discharges on EEG." - MT Wong et al, Acta Psychiatrica Scandinavia, August 1994 Barbara Loe Fisher Commentary: A significant portion of the US population is now using multiple prescription drugs and vaccines from infancy through adulthood, even though there has never been an evaluation of multiple drug and vaccine use in humans to determine the effect on long term physical and mental health. If Americans have become drug and vaccine junkies, then medical doctors who promote and prescribe biological and chemical products made and sold by the pharmaceutical industry have become their suppliers. Although drugs and vaccine(s) prescribed (or mandated) by doctors can sometimes cause profound negative changes in brain and immune function, there is little effort made by the pharmaceutical industry and doctors profiting from mass drug and vaccine use to evaluate potential negative effects or take steps to minimize them. Vaccine induced brain inflammation, which has been the hallmark of severe reactions since the first vaccine - smallpox vaccine - was used on a mass basis can be mild or severe and damage the developing brain of a child, permanently altering behavior, personality, intelligence, emotional stability, and physical ability. Drug induced chemical changes in the brain can also negatively affect important aspects of normal brain function. Instead of spending more research dollars to create new drugs and vaccines, the pharmaceutical industry should first find out why drug and vaccine complications occur and who is at high risk for suffering them. An epidemic of chronic physical illness and disability, along with an epidemic of depression and violent behavior, in American children and young adults has developed during the past quarter century. Although economic and social factors influence health and behavior, the possibility that environmental insults are causing significant damage to brain and immune function in a growing minority of children is very real. Too much prescription drug and vaccine use cannot be discounted as one of those environmental insults, which could result in greater or lesser damage, depending upon genetic and other biological variables. If a substantial minority of violent inmates in prisons and mental institutions are brain damaged, we ignore at our peril the potential role that prescription drug and vaccine-induced brain dysfunction plays in the epidemic of chronic illness and violent behavior plaguing America. We owe it to future generations to find out just how big that role may be before more drugs and vaccines are prescribed and the epidemic gets worse. Role of antidepressants in killings needs review The Modesto Bee April 29, 2007 By TY PHILLIPS tphillips@... Click here for the URL: The murderous rampage that left 33 people dead at Virginia Tech has stirred countless emotions: sadness and anger, fear and hatred, grief and disgust. When Dr. Ann Blake Tracy heard the details, she felt many of those same emotions. Yet there is one sentiment Tracy does not share with much of the rest of the world: surprise. As terrible as it sounds, after nearly 20 years researching links between violent crime, suicide and antidepressants, Tracy is surprised only that it doesn't happen more often. Details continue to emerge about the lonely life of killer Seung-Hui Cho, who had a history of mental illness. Among Cho's effects, officials found prescription medications related to the treatment of psychological problems. Though it's still premature to draw conclusions without toxicology results, these are the details Tracy, an author and the executive director of the International Coalition for Drug Awareness, expected from the moment she heard about the Virginia Tech shootings. In her experience, when it comes to investigating high-profile shootings, antidepressants are as common as the presence of loneliness, despondence and rage. "I'm just so tired of seeing people die, I could scream," Tracy said during a phone interview. "It's happening daily in this country. It's so massive, it's just unreal. We've got so many school shootings now, I can't even begin to keep up with them all. And the reason is so incredibly obvious. You don't have to look at much to figure it out." 2006, Bailey, Colo. - Duane Morrison shot and killed a girl and sexually assaulted six others. Antidepressants were found in his vehicle. 2005, Red Lake Indian Reservation, Minn. - Jeff Weise shot and killed nine people and wounded five before committing suicide. Prozac. 1998, Springfield, Ore. - Kip Kinkel killed his parents, then went to school and opened fire in the cafeteria, killing two and wounding 22. Prozac. 1989, Stockton - Patrick Purdy used an assault rifle to spray bullets through a playground at Cleveland Elementary School, killing five children and wounding 29 people before he killed himself. Elavil. 'It's all so intertwined' There are dozens of other examples of violence at schools and the presence of antidepressants, but the carnage hardly is limited to our campuses. Countless families have been destroyed around the world through homicides and suicides committed by adults on antidepressants. In June 2001, Texan Andrea Yates drowned her five children under the influence of four psychiatric medicines, including Effexor. In February 2004 in Polk Township, Pa., Samantha Hirt, hours after taking a pill for manic depression, set fire in a bedroom where her two toddlers were playing, closed the door and sat on a sofa watching television while the fire spread, killing both children. Effexor. Other famous cases include the 1998 deaths of actor Phil Hartman and his wife, a murder/suicide committed by her (Zoloft); the 1999 home and office killing spree by Atlanta day trader Mark Barton (Prozac); the 1998 shooting deaths of four co-workers by Connecticut lottery accountant Matthew Beck, who then killed himself (Luvox); and the 1994 New York City subway bombing by Edward Leary, which injured 48 (Prozac). The list (which can be found at www.drugawareness.org) encompasses hundreds and hundreds of cases. "You start linking them together and looking at all the similarities and you say, 'Good grief, it's all so intertwined,'" said Tracy, who has appeared on programs including "20/20," "Dateline" and "60 Minutes" and served as a consultant on high-profile cases including Columbine and Andrea Yates. "I keep asking, 'When is somebody going to see this?' But we've been so brainwashed about drugs, we think legal means safe. "Most people don't know LSD once was prescribed as a wonder drug. Most people don't know that PCP was considered to have a large margin of safety in humans. Most people don't know ecstasy was prescribed and sold for five years to treat depression. Few know that history of drugs, and I think that's our biggest problem. We're just not educated enough to have concerns." Prozac nation, indeed The Northern San Joaquin Valley certainly is not immune. Stanislaus County Coroner Kristi Herr, who has investigated hundreds of the county's 4,000 annual deaths, including many accidental overdoses of prescription medicines, said she regularly goes into homes of deceased people and finds medicine cabinets loaded with prescription medicines. Sometimes there are so many pill bottles that large garbage bags are needed to transport them all. "It seems to me a large portion of our society is on antidepressants," Herr said. "That isn't based on statistics. That is just based on my experience of going into homes and evaluating the cases that come through here." In 2003, then-Newman resident Lorraine Slater's 14- year-old daughter, Dominique, killed herself after being treated for depression with several antidepressants, including Celexa and Wellbutrin. As her depression and erratic behavior worsened, her doctor prescribed her a double dose of Effexor. Fifteen days later, she was dead. Her body later was found in the Delta Mendota Canal in Patterson, not far from the family's home. "On the drug, she became more agitated, combative and restless," Slater said. "And she had never been like that before. It's like our daughter was on LSD. It was a real Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde experience." Shortly after Dominique's death, the FDA released a warning that one in 50 patients, or 2 percent, will experience an adverse reaction to Effexor, which can include suicidal thoughts. Slater has become a consumer advocate working to raise awareness of possible dangers of antidepressants. On May 9, she will testify at a hearing at the state Capitol concerning a bill that would require drug companies to disclose results of all clinical trials. "We're not against medication," Slater said. "We just want disclosure about results from their trials. In their internal memos, marketers are told to downplay the side effects, and a lot of doctors aren't aware of the real dangers. "We're just saying these companies need to give the citizens they're supposedly trying to help the information about possible symptoms so people can make informed decisions. If their medicine is so good, what is there they have to hide?" Arguments against link Of course, the logical argument against tying violent crimes to antidepressants is that there are countless factors that motivate a person to commit a violent act. And those who carry out these deeds often are people with mental illness, so the presence of antidepressants can be expected. These are solid points; correlation does not in itself mean causation. And there is no doubting that countless people have benefited from these drugs. Still, as one looks at the details of violent crimes around the country, too often there is an array of antidepressants. At the very least, this is a topic that deserves greater scrutiny. In early 2005, the FDA issued a warning that antidepressants can cause both suicide and violence. The agency also mandated a black-box warning - the most serious available - that states these drugs can produce side effects that include anxiety, agitation, panic attacks, irritability, hostility, aggressiveness, impulsivity and mania. The FDA also has warned that abrupt withdrawal of antidepressants can produce suicide, psychosis or hostility. Eli Lilly, which makes Prozac, repeatedly has denied claims that Prozac causes violence, even though the company's own documents acknowledge "nervousness, anxiety, self-mutilation and manic behavior" are among the "usual adverse effects" of the medicine. It's the same Eli Lilly that has paid more than $1.2 billion to 28,000 people who claimed they were injured by the drug Zyprexa during the past decade, according to a Jan. 5 article in the New York Times. Paying $1.2 billion over 10 years may sound like a lot of money until compared with the $4.2 billion the company made last year alone selling Zyprexa, which has been taken by 20 million people worldwide since its introduction in 1996. Most antidepressant drugs, including Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Luvox, Celexa, Lexapro and Effexor, are known as selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, which alter brain chemistry in an attempt to manage depression. Serotonin, a neurotransmitter, is a chemical that facilitates communication within the brain, allowing one to experience happy feelings upon its release. Essentially, the antidepressant drugs prevent reabsorption of serotonin in an attempt to make the happiness experience last longer. Mother of a monster One of the former lead chemists at the National Institute of Health, whose work eventually led to the development of many antidepressant drugs, first spoke out against the drugs nearly 10 years ago. "I am alarmed at the monster that Johns Hopkins neuroscientist Solomon Snyder and I created when we discovered the simple binding assay for drug receptors 25 years ago," said Dr. Candace Pert in the Oct. 20, 1997, issue of Time magazine. She said Prozac and other SSRI (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor) antidepressants may cause heart problems and affect the entire body, where the vast majority of serotonin is produced. The medical profession "ignores the body as if it exists merely to carry the head around," said Pert, who's now scientific director of RAPID Pharmaceuticals in Potomac, Md. "These molecules of emotion regulate every aspect of our physiology." A recent study by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that half of all Americans take at least one prescription drug, and that antidepressant use has nearly tripled in the past decade. According to some estimates, 30 million Americans take antidepressants. FDA statistics show U.S. physicians issue more than 10 million antidepressant prescriptions each year to patients younger than 18. FDA-approved prescription drugs injure 2.2 million and kill at least 100,000 Americans each year, according to numerous published studies. Some survive and forgive Problem is, when antidepressants don't work as intended, the harmful fallout isn't limited to the user. The victims often are those within striking distance. They are people like Mark Taylor, who was sitting outside and reading a Bible when he was shot numerous times by Eric Harris at Columbine High School. "The first one hit me in the back of the leg. That was the shotgun blast," Taylor said in a recent phone interview. "That was the most painful. And then I got hit several more times in the chest; the bullets went right through me. They tried to make sure I was dead. I laid down and pretended I was dead. "I think Eric Harris, from the medication, didn't really know what he was doing. I don't really hold him responsible for it. Eric and Dylan were both taking medicines. They just didn't seem to have any reaction to what they were doing. They were having fun with it, laughing and enjoying it and having a good time. I feel that antidepressants were the cause of the Columbine shooting." Taylor, now 24, travels the country and speaks about the importance of forgiveness. Since the Virginia Tech shootings, he has been besieged with interview requests. His interviews included an appearance on "The Morning Show with Mike and Juliet," a national Fox News Network program. The hosts invited Taylor because they wanted to hear from someone who had survived a school shooting, someone who presumably could offer insight to help other children survive such an incident. "Forgiveness," Taylor told them, "that's how I survived it." But Taylor said the show's commentators weren't much interested in his message of forgiveness. Instead, the show focused on interviews with FBI agents and police tacticians, who offered survival tips that we are supposed to use to arm our children as we send them off to school. Is this what it's come to? Do we now simply accept that frequent school shootings are a part of today's society and prepare ourselves for when tragedy strikes? Too often, instead of working to find the cause of problems, we react to symptoms. That same kind of thinking is what has so many Americans taking antidepressants in the first place. To comment, click on the link with this column at www.modbee.com. Bee columnist Ty Phillips can be reached at tphillips@... or 874-5716. Drugmakers, Doctors Get Cozier Gifts Continue, Contacts Increase Despite Guidelines The Washington Post April 29, 2007 By Christopher Lee Click here for the URL: (registration required) Despite efforts to curb drug companies' avid courting of doctors, the industry is working harder than ever to influence what medicines they prescribe, sending out sales representatives with greater frequency and plying physicians with gifts, meals and consulting fees, according to several new papers. One study published in the New England Journal of Medicine last week found that 94 percent of doctors have some type of relationship with the drug industry -- most commonly accepting free food or drug samples, which about 80 percent of physicians did. More than one-third of the 1,662 physicians who responded to a survey conducted from November 2003 to June 2004 reported being reimbursed by the drug industry for costs of going to professional meetings or continuing medical education, and 28 percent said they had been paid for consulting, giving lectures or signing up patients for clinical trials. Two other papers examined in detail the strategies that pharmaceutical representatives, or "detailers," use and how effective the industry is at influencing doctors. "We now know that virtually every doctor in the United States has some form of relationship with the pharmaceutical industry," said Eric G. Campbell, lead researcher of the New England Journal of Medicine study and an assistant professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School. "They are common. A quarter receive honoraria or some form of payment for their services, and that was much higher than we expected." Contacts between doctors and drug salespeople have jumped from the average of 4.4 per month reported in 2000, Campbell and other researchers found. In the survey period, drug representatives met with family practitioners an average of 16 times a month, with cardiologists and internists nine or 10 times a month, with pediatricians eight times a month and with surgeons four times a month. Only anesthesiologists, who saw the representatives twice a month, appear to be meeting with the industry less often than before, the study found. As those numbers suggest, the companies shower more attention on certain doctors, the researchers said. Cardiologists -- whose prescribing patterns tend to influence primary care doctors -- were more likely to be paid for consulting and other services than were family practitioners, pediatricians, anesthesiologists and surgeons, the study found. "When I send somebody to a cardiologist, if he puts somebody on a medicine, I'm not going to change it," said co-author David Blumenthal, a general internist and the director of the Institute for Health Policy at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston. "If they use a particular agent, I'm more likely personally to prescribe that agent because I figure the guy is an expert and he has got some reason for picking that brand as opposed to some other brand." The ties between doctors and drug companies are deepening despite voluntary guidelines to curb excesses, adopted in 2002 by the American Medical Association, the American College of Physicians, the Accreditation Council for Continuing Medical Education and the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America. The inspector general of the Department of Health and Human Services issued similar guidance in 2003. Under the industry code, gifts must be worth less than $100 and should primarily benefit patients -- items such as stethoscopes or medical dictionaries. Meals should be "modest" in cost, and a physician's spouse should not be included. Gifts of cash or tickets to sporting events are inappropriate. Consulting arrangements must be for real services, and doctors should not be paid for listening to marketing pitches. "Clearly, adequate safeguards are already in place," Ken Johnson, senior vice president of the drug industry association, said in a statement. "The goal is to make sure the focus of conversations between company representatives and physicians remains providing accurate information about medicines." A former industry insider, however, painted a different picture in an article last week in PLoS Medicine, a journal published by the Public Library of Science. Shahram Ahari, a former drug company representative, and physician Adriane Fugh-Berman wrote that the estimated 100,000 representatives who visit doctors' offices look for details such as family photos or hobbies that they can use to forge a relationship. They use food, gifts and money to make often-overworked doctors feel more appreciated -- and more loyal to the company's drugs. If a physician will not meet with them, the representatives often woo the office staff with flattery and meals. "Pharmaceutical gifting . . . . involves carefully calibrated generosity," Ahari and Fugh-Berman wrote. "Many prescribers receive pens, notepads, and coffee mugs, all items kept close at hand, ensuring that a targeted drug's name stays uppermost in a physician's subconscious mind. High prescribers receive higher-end presents, for example, silk ties or golf bags." Drug companies also purchase prescription records from pharmacies and, with the help of an American Medical Association database, identify individual physicians' prescribing patterns and rank doctors based on how many prescriptions they write, the authors wrote. The tactics work. Another study in PLoS Medicine last week found that visits by detailers prompted nearly half of 97 physicians to increase prescriptions of gabapentin, a drug approved to treat seizures. In many cases, the drug representatives were pushing non- approved, or "off-label," uses of the drug, the study found. A study in the Journal of General Internal Medicine in February found that physicians in focus groups said that they understand the potential conflicts of interest but that they still view their meetings with drug detailers as informative and appropriate. Such findings suggest that voluntary guidelines are inadequate, researchers wrote. In an interview, one District-based physician, orthopedic surgeon Peter E. Lavine, said that drug representatives used to visit his office daily but have cut back in recent years to stopping by about twice a week. The conduct guidelines have eliminated most excesses, Lavine said, and many doctors view the sessions as a way to learn about side effects and how drugs compare. "The vast majority of physicians appreciate the information but find them [detailers] as a nuisance," said Lavine, chairman of the Medical Society of the District of Columbia. "They always tend to come in the middle of the day when you are busy seeing patients, and it's very difficult to break away and talk to them. And if they've bought lunch for the staff, then you are sort of obligated to give them a little bit of your time. I think they certainly have a valuable educational benefit. I don't think that physicians are going to change their prescribing patterns for free samples." Brain Study Sheds Light On Impulsive Violence Science Daily Date: August 15, 2000 Source: University of Wisconsin-Madison Click here for the URL: Science Daily - The human brain is wired with natural checks and balances that control negative emotions, but breakdowns in this regulatory system appear to heighten risk of violent behavior, according to findings of a study by UW-Madison psychologist Richard Davidson. As part of a special report on violence in the July 28 issue of the journal Science, Davidson and colleagues analyzed brain imaging data from a large, diverse group of studies on violent subjects and those predisposed to violence. The studies focused on people diagnosed with aggressive personality disorder, those with childhood brain injuries and convicted murderers. Researchers found common neurological threads among these more than 500 subjects in the brain's inability to properly regulate emotion. The study focused on several interconnected regions in the prefrontal cortex of the brain, areas defined in Davidson's previous work as an essential control mechanism for negative emotions. A similar brain process has been implicated in a number of mental health problems, including depression and anxiety disorders. Davidson says this newfound connection between violence and brain dysfunction opens a new avenue for studying and possibly treating violence and aggression. "We are placing the question of violence right in the middle of our basic research on the neurobiology of emotion, because our previous insights in this area give us tremendous leverage to understand the root causes of violence," Davidson says. "There never has been a theoretical framework to make sense of this before." One of the core findings, Davidson says, deals with the interplay between several distinct brain regions, namely the orbital frontal cortex, the anterior cingulate cortex and the amygdala. The orbital frontal cortex plays a crucial role in constraining impulsive outbursts, while the anterior cingulate cortex recruits other brain regions in the response to conflict. The amygdala, a tiny but highly influential portion of the brain, is involved in the production of a fear response and other negative emotions. Davidson and colleagues Katherine Putnam and Christine Larson found that normal brain activity in the orbital and anterior regions were blunted or entirely absent in many of the study groups, while the amygdala showed normal or heightened activity. The inability of the two brain regions to effectively counteract the response of the amygdala may help explain how threatening situations can become explosive in some people. A major strength of the research is in the range of people studied and the consistency of the results, Davidson says. The researchers found dysfunction in common brain regions in reviews of brain imaging data from 41 murderers, from a study group suffering from aggressive impulsive personality disorder, and from a group diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder. They also reviewed data from two individuals who suffered early damage to the two regions of the brain in question. Those individuals, injured early in life, both showed histories of verbal and physical abusiveness and intermittent, explosive bursts of anger. The research paper also described a large group of subjects who have a genetic deficit that causes a disruption in the brain's serotonin levels. The serotonin system employs many of the brain regions described earlier and a disruption of the system has been linked to increased aggression. Davidson's analysis showed that these emotion-controlling brain regions showed less activity in the individuals who carried this genetic abnormality. Davidson stresses that the research points to both genetics and poor environmental history as potential contributors to impulsive violence, and together they present a "double whammy" that put people at much greater risk. "These parts of the brain are particularly responsive to experiential shaping," Davidson says. The study may recast the way society looks at impulsive violence, by defining it as a mental health issue. "Emotion regulation is extremely significant for a whole constellation of problems people encounter," he says. The long-term implications of the study will be in the realm of new treatments, Davidson predicts, that will combine targeted behavioral interventions with drug therapies, in much the same way depression and anxiety disorders are treated. "Given what we know about brain plasticity and the fact that the brain really can change in response to experience, we have good reason to expect that these treatments may, in fact, have beneficial consequences," Davidson says. While the research points to emotion regulation deficits as a "smoking gun" in impulsive violence, Davidson cautions that science is a long way from developing any preventive strategy for at-risk populations. Davidson's future studies will explore this complex brain process in much greater detail, through the use of imaging technologies such as magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) and positron emission topography (PET) used in tandem for high-resolution, real time images of brain function. Davidson is director of the Wisconsin Center for Affective Science and directs the W.M. Keck Center for Functional Brian Imaging. His research is supported by the National Institute of Mental Health. Note: This story has been adapted from a news release issued by University Of Wisconsin- Madison. Electroencephalography, computed tomography and violence ratings of male patients in a maximum- security mental hospital. Acta Psychiatrica Scandinavica 1994 Aug;90(2):97-101 Wong MT, Lumsden J, Fenton GW, Fenwick PB. Department of Psychiatry, Institute of Psychiatry, London, United Kingdom. ABSTRACT A retrospective study of brain investigations of 372 male patients in a maximum-security mental hospital patients is described. All computed tomography (CT) scan and electroencephalography (EEG) reports were collected and rated blind; patients were subsequently divided into 3 groups according to the violence rating of their pre-admission offending behaviour. The 3 groups were similar in their mean age, psychiatric diagnosis, Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale score and proportions of patients investigated with EEG and CT. In the most violent group, 20% had focal temporal electrical abnormalities on EEG (slowing and/or sharp waves) and 41% had structural abnormalities localised to temporal lobe on CT (dilated temporal horn and/or reduced size of temporal lobe). The corresponding figures for the least violent group are 2.4% and 6.7% respectively. These results suggest that high violence rating scores are associated with temporal lobe abnormalities on CT and abnormal temporal electrical discharges on EEG. PMID: 7976465 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] ************************************************************* National Vaccine Information Center email: news@... voice: 703-938-dpt3 web: http://www.nvic.org NVIC E-News is a free service of the National Vaccine Information Center and is supported through membership donations. NVIC is funded through the financial support of its members and does not receive any government subsidies. Barbara Loe Fisher, President and Co- founder. 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Kidneycleanse@yahoogroups.com Learn about MSG.. There a list
posted ..Boy !! there some bad stuff in that crude
Its made in China.. No place else. They could knock
off everyone in states , with just bit more those items on the list.
They already started with dog and cat food..

naomi,
to heck with the bugs. i've been told that the 2 things that you shouldn't do in
mexico were
1- drink the water. stick to bottled only
and 2 - eat the sea food.
my friend who did the second was seriously sick with parasites for years
afterward.
ouch.
deb

-----Original Message-----
>From: Naomi <naomilh@...>
>Sent: Apr 29, 2007 3:35 PM
>To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [lymestrategies] Re: OT: Fungus & Vita C buffered by Calcium
Ascorbate-(Weather & Bugs)
>
>Jim,
>Now you've really got me worried.  When I had dinner in that restaurant in
Mexico with the barn-sized bugs flying around, I was eating a plate of big
beautiful prawns swimming in butter and garlic.  Ymmm.
>At least I thought they were prawns.
>Oh, oh!
>Naomi

The answer is to not support Republicans and Democrats, but
Libertarians. Only Libertarians believe that your body is your
property and that the choice and responsibility for what you put in
your body should be yours, not the government's. When it comes to food
and nutritional supplement safety, Libertarians support third-party
certification organizations, like Consumer Reports and Underwriters
Laboratories, that test and evaluate things based on their own
criteria. This system allows people to purchase items that conform to
the criteria or not. Private evaluation companies have an incentive to
do a good job because they are beholden to the consumers who use their
services, and they are in competition with other companies who provide
similar services. The government has no incentive to do a good job
because they are funded by taxation, not voluntary fees, and they have
a monopoly over the evaluation...the FDA has no competition. We are
never going to solve society's problems through big government
coercion like this. It's not complicated...freedom brings prosperity.
We need to support freedom oriented situations and the elimination of
oppressive legislation wherever we can. Please stop voting for statist
Republicans and Democrats. This is only going to lead us down the path
of tyranny and erode our liberty more and more each year.

--- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "ontarioguy2334"
<ontarioguy2334@...> wrote:
>
> Wow thanks guys!  Lots of replies.  Ill definately try out that
> supplement you mentioned Mistral I believe natural facotrs makes it if
> im not mistaken?
>
>

Brad, it is a company called Vaxa. My health food store carries it and
you may want to get yours to carry it, otherwise it is very costly to
get it shipped. I am telling you it makes WORLDS of difference. I am
glad I tried c-salt off of it to see if c-salt resolved the ADD/Memory
problems but did not touch em.I should have just waited a year at the
most but waited 1.5 years but I am just happy to be on the stuff now.

Mistral

Hi Dana,

Thanks so much...that info is pretty good, coming after the midnight
hour! I wonder if it would be good to squeeze a couple of vitamin E
capsules into a bottle of cod liver oil? I know some suggest doing
that for vegetable oil.

Avril

  In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "Dana Black" <danablack@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Avril-
>
> Omega 3s, especially long chain fats such as fish oil are very
much subject
> to oxidation damage. Vitamin E protects them. Oxidized fats are
very toxic.
> Actually all "poly-unsaturated" oils, which would include seed
oils, soy,
> canola, etc (most plant oils -- liquid at room temp), are very
much subject
> to oxidation, because of the fact that they are unsaturated,
leaving them
> vulnerable to damage by oxygen. Saturated fats such as animal
fats, coconut,
> or palm oil are not easily damaged by oxidation because they are
saturated.
> I can be more specific as to what the whole saturation issue means
if you
> want to know more, but right now (after midnight) I've said just
about all I
> can dredge up from the memory banks at this point :-).
>
> Take care,
>
> Dana
>
>

HI Tom. Glad to see you made it over from the rife group. You may
want to take this opportunity if not already to dump any table salt
you have in your house and start using sea salt to cook with and at
the table. Redmonds is good for this if you are not used to using
sea salt. You could easily get 1 gram of sea salt a day this way and
it will help you to maintain electrolyte balance with rife.
Be Well
Pat

--- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, troutfisherguy@... wrote:
>
> Thank you Rosemary for your post. It gives me hope. I havent
started the
> salt/c yet, cause i just started the rife machine and i want to
learn how i
> react to that before i start up the salt c . I think i might start
it within the
> next month or two. May will be one year for me since getting lyme.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's free at
http://www.aol.com.
>

Thanks for sharing that personal information Jnanda, its really
helpful to hear from others about these things.
=)

And thanks Avril for directing me to articles related to alzheimers
and lyme.  Linda's blogs were a big help, i printed some of them off
to take with me.

Brad
--- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "jnanda" <jnanda@...> wrote:
>
> Brad -
>
> Since I assume you are positive for lyme and other infections, I
> would assume this is the foundation of your neurological issues. If
> you are getting a work-up from doctors who are not lyme literate,
> then you could be in for a lot of unnecessary procedures and testing.
>
> I was dx with MS (Multiple Sclerosis) in 1994, and became severely
> disabled and bedridden for a time, and on hospice care eventually.
> Thankfully I am recovered from that state of disfunction, but still
> working on a late stage lyme infection with other infections and
> issues present. I also have a long list of other diagnosis through
> the years and if I was seeing doctors now, we could add to that list
> even more. But it is all lyme related.
>
> I went through seven neurologists at the height of my illness with
> MS, and really none of them had much to offer me. I had the insight
> fortunately to deny any invasive tests including lumbar puncture and
> also a radioactive dye MRI contrast test, which would have been
> horrible as I had severe pain and a pain disorder, RSD at the time. I
> also had a pain doctor, we mutually fired each other - because he
> wanted to do an IV "cocktail" of chemo and anticonvulsive drugs, and
> other medicines - about seven or eight of some powerful drugs that
> probably would have ended my life.
>
> My husband and I have felt many times through the years, that I was a
> guinea pig for many of the doctors who treated me.
>
> Most of the reasons I went through so many neurologists specifically,
> was because they kept referring me to someone else - not for my lack
> of cooperation at the time,but because they could not improve my
> outcome. However the last doctor who did get out of sorts with  my
> refusal of the MRI test with dye.
>
> I would strongly suggest that you forgo the spinal tap. On many
> levels, this is one of the most invasive procudures a person could do
> in my opinion. If you decide to do this, there are always ways to
> heal as Connie pointed out, and I don't want to add fear to your
> scenario - but you did ask for feedback.
>
> Unless you are seeing doctors who know about treating lyme and co-
> infections, the underlined probable cause of your brain dysfunction -
> anyone else is going to be fairly limited in their understanding and
> what they could offer.
>
> In my case, I did heavy doses of IV steroids - the worst thing
> possible for a lymie - but fortunately I did not respond to this, and
> I did not have repeated courses.
>
> I do believe you can recover, and we all can, especially using the
> salt/c protocol.
>
> It takes time, a lot of time...........but healing will happen.
>
> My thoughts and prayers are with you!
>
> Love,
> Jnanda
>

Wow thanks guys!  Lots of replies.  Ill definately try out that
supplement you mentioned Mistral I believe natural facotrs makes it if
im not mistaken?

Dana good thinking (pardon the pun) =)  about taking the cod liver oil
and carlsons omega 3's.  I try to take alot of those things but I take
them every 2nd day just so I dont get allergic as easily to them.  I
find I can get rather sensitive especially to the fish oils.  But they
do definately help me, and I just got more of the liquid vit E which
when taken with c helps stop dementia associated neuro stuff in its
tracks. But ill try to take more of each, the oil I find that im
getting used to the texture, but at first it was gagish =\

Thanks for the preyers Connie it was nice chatting with you as well =)
  I was kinda worried about you crossing that highway =\  But im glad
you looked both ways lol
And your right we can heal every cell in our bodies including the CNS
cells.

Ill definately look into that book Mr Tom (I hope I got the name
right).  It sounds very interesting, I do need more feedback as I at
times feel disconnected from the world around me and my own body.

Yea and the golden question that Susie asked. Very good Q by the way.
  I am still on unapproved long term disability with my insurance
provider.  The politics of medicine astound me because if my infectous
disease specialist would just put the words "this patient is  totally
disabled from all occupations" then I would be classified as approved
by my insurance company, I would get paid and my employer would get
off my back about my "unapproved absense from work which is
automatically absent without leave, an actionable offense" (basically
they will try to fire me if I dont get approved by the insurance
comany).

My own union told me that the specialist has to say that I am totally
disabled from all occupations before the insurance approves me.  Its
all in the collective barganing agreement which i think is a silly
criteria to try to meet when one is dealing with something as complex
as what we all have going on.

Another problem which complicates my issue is that I have all this
time tested negative (ELISA) through serology.  In Canada thats a bad
  thing as any doctor that treats you or supports you will be
punished/reprimanded by the CPSO (college of physicians and surgeons
of ontario).  My infectous disease guy has already been warned and he
has to watch every step he takes now with all the hundreds of lymie
patients he is seeing.  He now cant treat someone without a positive
"Canadian elisa test"  How silly!!  Just because serology is negative
doesnt mean that there is no validity to the Bowen and IGenix!  =\
Both the bowen and Igenix are positive.  Well the Igenix is positive
for exposure but negative for the CDC requirments, which im sure most
dont meet anyways.

So I have asked him to write me a letter saying those golden words to
support my disability and he is still not writing it....frustrating.
Ive requested both verbally and in writing a few times for this letter
and all he does is  stall tactics!!

Now I dont know why he just doesnt give me a diagnosis of CFS and
fibromyalgia that way there is less controversy.  According to my
union there are already 4 people on Long Term Disability with fibro!
I think im going to ask him if he thinks i might not only have Lyme
but also the fibro/and CFS.  Hes already said (for unknown reasons)
that he doesnt believe I have CFS....

Anyways Im trying to find another infectous disease
specialist/internist.  The insurance company in order to approve LTD
will not accept the diagnosis of a regular general practitioner!!!
More medical politics....a liscenced and practicing MD cannot diagnose
someone for long term disability =\  But the insurance companies have
their shareholders to keep happy, keep those profits going and they
want to make it as hard as possible to get approved for LTD so they
dont have to pay out.  Which does nothing but make my case even more
difficult to prove.

If anyone out there has some kind of internist/infectous disease
specialist located somewhere in ontario I would appreciate a private
email.

So back to the original question of why do all this testing in the
first place, Im trying to get some "proof" that I have some degree of
disability to submit to my insurance company and save my job from
being in jeopardy.  Because all they have seen so far is negative,
negative, negative =\  and its making me very negative, negative,
negative =oP lol  Did that sound Negative?

Thanks for reading my huge rant lol  But I truly value all of your
opinions, and i have so much respect for all of you guys.

Brad =)

Ps A very nice lady emailed me and said that she values and cares for
me, I just want to thank her, that email really touched my heart.  I
was getting teary eyed =0)  *lol and yes im manly enough to admit on
the internet that I can get emotional we all do its only human*
--- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "Dana Black" <danablack@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Brad-
>
> I would have to ask the same question Susie did -- What do you hope
to gain
> by having the testing? And as others have said, regular mainstream
docs are
> not, for the most part, going to know how to deal with these types of
> symptoms when they are likely caused by Lyme. As Jnanda said, many
of the
> tests can be invasive and are undoubtedly expensive.
>
>
>
> Others have said that their cognitive problems have cleared up after
> successful Lyme treatment. Though I've never "gotten lost" when out and
> about or no longer recognized faces of friends or family, I have had
> episodes being out and forgetting where a business was (that I went by
> several times per week) -- that was a bit scary. My short term
memory can
> be, at times, the pits. I chalk it all up to Lyme, and I am quite a bit
> better (most of the time) than I was several years ago.
>
>
>
> Some alternative MDs have started treating early stage Alzheimer's
with high
> dose fish oil supplements. I take some fish oil (Carlson Super Omega
3 caps)
> and a couple of teaspoons of cod liver oil per day, which I believe has
> helped me quite a bit -- better cognitive function and fewer migraines
> (always be sure you're getting plenty of vitamin E when you're
taking lots
> of Omega 3s). Mistral's recommendation for a supplement to help
cognitive
> function also sounds interesting.
>
>
>
> If it were me, I'd forgo the tests, but it's your (and your family's)
> decision. It just sounds like an expensive and maybe traumatic
process that
> may not do much more than pad the pockets of those prescribing and
> administering the tests.
>
> Take care,
>
> Dana
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of ontarioguy2334
> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 10:15 PM
> To: lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [lymestrategies] OT Ozone Olive Oil, Complete neurological
workup
> etc
>
>
>
> Hey guys! Its been far to long since my last post. But this ozone
> olive oil sounds great, much more effective than just ozonated water.
> I cant wait to use my machine to make some for myself!
>
> Now I have this brain of mine which is showing some Alzheimers
> patterns. Ive had a spect scan which indicates this. So they want to
> do a complete neurological workup on me. I dont know if im cool with
> this or not. Its useless unless they know about lyme in my opinion.
> Someone mentioned that a spinal tap should not be done on Lymies due
> to the increased chance of secondary infections/leaking CSF. Can
> someone inform me on this? Id like to know what im getting into on
> Tuesday. Im going to a MS clinic at Mac University.
>

Thanks, Rosemary!

You are always so encouraging about the salt/c protocol.

Blessings,
Avril

  In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "aussietickchick"
<roseagain@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Tom,
> Prior to salt & C I honestly believe I was dying.  I was so
terribly
> ill and mostly housebound.  I have Lyme 28 years, misdiagnosed as
CFS
> for 22 years, so my "critter load" must have been huge.  I am much
> better on salt & C.  I am doing things that I haven't been able to
do
> for decades!  My doctor is amazed every time she sees me stride
into
> her office.  I used to drag myself in there on a walking frame or
> hanging onto my husband.  So far, all my standard blood tests are
> completely normal.
> I still herx and get migraines.  I do coffee enemas several times
per
> week to dump toxins.  I am doing some liver flushes also.  I am
far
> from well, but just so much better.  The first 18 months of salt &
C
> was really gruelling with severe headaches most days.  But coffee
> enemas and good diet got me through it and it is worth it.  My
life
> is so much better.  Nothing else had worked.  My husband also has
> major improvements on salt & C as he had severe food mal-
absorbtion
> for many years.  He has been on salt & C only a few weeks and he
is
> finally digesting his food and having normal stools.  He had
> previously tried many things which didn't work.  Salt & C rocks!
> Hang in there,
> Rosemary.
>
> --- In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, troutfisherguy@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 4/28/2007 11:16:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight
Time,
> > roseagain@ writes:
> >
> > Hi,
> > I have been on salt & C 29 months and doing  well.
> >
> >
> > Hi Rosemary,
> >  SInce you've been doing it for 29 months, how do you feel from
it?
> >
> > tom
> >
> >
> >
> > ************************************** See what's free at
> http://www.aol.com.
> >
>

Hi Mistral,

Good to hear from you again. Been missing you!

I checked out the Attend product...sounds very complete as a
supplement. Maybe you could think of it as a very comprehensive
multiple vitamin...which everyone is supposed to take. Perhaps
you're right, though. If we can reduce our Lyme load, then we won't
need so many supplements because we won't be herxing and/or being
depleted because the Lyme eats the nutrients in our body.

Anyway, I'm glad that Attend is helping you so much!

Blessings,
Avril

In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "squireofyore" <squireofyore@...>
wrote:
>
> I have now been on it for 4 months and have accomplished more in 4
> months than the previous year. It is frustrating to me that I did
not
> go on the stuff earlier because I had been on it before while
finish a
> HUGE project. At the time, I thought that the Attend helped a
little
> and that the real motivator was a firm deadline. Now I know how
much
> Attend has helped.
>
> I hate being so dependent on a formula but alas, for now, I will
just
> take it and hope that as I chelate and improve my lyme, I will if
> nothing else need less of Attend.
>
> Mistral

Hi Dana,

Why is it necessary to take vitamin E with Omega 3's?

Thanks,
Avril

  In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "Dana Black" <danablack@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Some alternative MDs have started treating early stage Alzheimer's
with high
> dose fish oil supplements. I take some fish oil (Carlson Super
Omega 3 caps)
> and a couple of teaspoons of cod liver oil per day, which I
believe has
> helped me quite a bit -- better cognitive function and fewer
migraines
> (always be sure you're getting plenty of vitamin E when you're
taking lots
> of Omega 3s).

You are too funny, Naomi!

Avril

  In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, "Naomi" <naomilh@...> wrote:
>
> Jim,
> Now you've really got me worried.  When I had dinner in that
restaurant in Mexico with the barn-sized bugs flying around, I was
eating a plate of big beautiful prawns swimming in butter and
garlic.  Ymmm.
> At least I thought they were prawns.
> Oh, oh!
> Naomi
>
>   Now Avril,
>
>   Our bugs are indeed palmetto bugs! They get their name because
they live and breed in our palmetto trees and bushes!
>
>   Fried and sautéed with butter, onions and garlic, yummy...!
>
>   May I send you a batch!
>
>   Chef Jim  :-)  Warm and wonderful!

Hi Jim,

A rose by any other name is still a rose. A roach by any other name,
etc. etc. ;o))

It was very warm here today...in the 70's maybe even 80's.

Blessings, Avril

  In lymestrategies@yahoogroups.com, JimJax2@... wrote:
>
> Now Avril,
>
> Our bugs are indeed palmetto bugs! They get their name because
they live and
> breed in our palmetto trees and bushes!
>
> Fried and sautéed with butter, onions and garlic, yummy...!
>
> May I send you a batch!
>
> Chef Jim   :-)   Warm and wonderful!